Brady Quinn sucks and always has! Can we please put Derek Anderson back in.

Lumbergh

@lcdawgfan13 said:
Make Believe? Did you WATCH him play last season? Or in this preseason? Give me a break! DA is constantly trying to force plays when he should just eat it. He's been doing that since college and probably high school. It's NEVER going to change.

Anderson had 11 TDs by his 4th NFL start. Quinn has 3 TDs thru 4 starts.

With Quinn the only way the Browns have a chance is if the other team craps themselves.

Quinn is the "playing not to lose" option.

He's the QB equivalent of the prevent defense.

ATENEARS

@lumbergh said:
Quinn is the "playing not to lose" option.

That is exactly, right.

medicineman

It was 1 game. What do you want us to do ship him out west? He is way better than Frye! IT WAS 1 game. give the man a chance.

Lumbergh

@medicineman said:
He is way better than Frye! IT WAS 1 game.

It's been 4 games now, not 1.

And what exactly makes Quinn better than Frye? Frye was a dink n dunker as well, but he had good short accuracy.

Quinn doesn't even have that (and there's no more blaming his sore finger either)

Lumbergh

@jadbf said:
Actually he had 8.
1 vs Pitt in 2006 1 INT

2 vs Balt in 2006 2 INT

0 vs TB in 2006 4 INT

5 vs Cinn in 2007 1 INT

so that's 8/8 TD to INT ratio.

Sure 8 is better than 3. and Quinn played badly against Minn and he better show me more soon.

I understand your puppet master is all upset again and he posts before thinking when he gets this way.

but maybe he can stop lying at least.

he had three more in relief appearances vs KC and PIT

if you're interested in the TD/INT ratio it was 11/10

Quinn is livin large with his 3/3 ratio

KardiacKid26

Dudeeeee. Just Chill. During the Redskins and Giants game, Troy Aikman was talking about his first game as a starter. Dallas lost 28-0 and Aikman threw 2 picks and 0 TD's. You have to give Quinn some time. Its the O-Line that's the problem. Alex Mack looked horrible with high snaps and St.Clair was penalized like 4 times.

Lumbergh

@jadbf said:
You said starts wonder boy
and that would = 6 games then

so Quinn gets 2 more games right?

I said by his 4th start, not in his 4 starts

and Quinn played vs the 9ers

don't try to out think the room bubba. in case you haven't noticed, you'll be in over your head if you do.

Mr. T

? Masters

@lumbergh said:
Anderson had 11 TDs by his 4th NFL start. Quinn has 3 TDs thru 4 starts.
With Quinn the only way the Browns have a chance is if the other team craps themselves.

Quinn is the "playing not to lose" option.

He's the QB equivalent of the prevent defense.

In DA's first 4 NFL STARTS, DA had 8 TDs, not 11 TDs. 11 TDs is after playing significant time in 6 games.

? Masters

@lumbergh said:
and Quinn played vs the 9ers

One series. Not an entire half like DA against KC in 2006 or 3 QTRs like DA agaisnt PIT in week 1 of 2007.

Lumbergh

Masters said:
One series. Not an entire half like DA against KC in 2006 or 3 QTRs like DA agaisnt PIT in week 1 of 2007.

so how many more games do you think it will take Quinn to match Anderson's 11?

(keep in mind that Anderson also threw 11 more TDs in his next 5 games)

? Masters

@lumbergh said:
so how many more games do you think it will take Quinn to match Anderson's 11?
(keep in mind that Anderson also threw 11 more TDs in his next 5 games)

Don't know and don't care.

Maybe your scale is to compare TD stats over "x" number of starts. I am looking to see if there is progress and improvement over each start for Quinn. Something that DA didn't do. We'll see if Quinn does. If he doesn't, it's back to the draft for a QB.

LCDawgFan13

@jadbf said:
Actually he had 8.
1 vs Pitt in 2006 1 INT

2 vs Balt in 2006 2 INT

0 vs TB in 2006 4 INT

5 vs Cinn in 2007 1 INT

so that's 8/8 TD to INT ratio.

Sure 8 is better than 3. and Quinn played badly against Minn and he better show me more soon.

I understand your puppet master is all upset again and he posts before thinking when he gets this way.

but maybe he can stop lying at least.

Thanks...you beat me to it.

It's been 4 games now, not 1.
And what exactly makes Quinn better than Frye? Frye was a dink n dunker as well, but he had good short accuracy.

Quinn doesn't even have that (and there's no more blaming his sore finger either)

Are you really going to go there? Can Quinn at least get his...as you say...4 starts...with one system. I believe DA at least got that...and in one season. DA got that too. Quinn just started his 4th game...yes. Only 2 of those 4 has he been completely healthy. And 3 were under the previous regime and previous offensive system. He just started his 1st game under the new offense (not counting the preseason games in which he completely outplayed your boyfriend) and, though there were mistakes made, he did not exactly look like the worst rated QB in the league from a year ago. If you want to argue that Quinn isn't the long term answer for this team, then fine...I can respect that argument. But to sit there and try to tell any of us that your boy-toy is, is just completely stupid. I won't sit here and say that Brady is going to be our QB for the next ten years. I believe he has potential to be just that, but may never pan out. But DA has had 27 starts and has clearly proved that he is NOT what we need under center. He has not panned out nor will he ever. His star in Cleveland, and possibly as a starter in the NFL anywhere, has burned out. If Brady chokes for the season after getting a legitimate shot, then I look forward to seeing Colt McCoy in a Browns uniform.

thomasw

DA= strong arm, with poor football IQ and poor decision making.

BQ= hometown boy who is not going to get it done.

Lumbergh

@lcdawgfan13 said:
But DA has had 27 starts and has clearly proved that he is NOT what we need under center.

yeah Anderson only won 13 games, for the Cleveland Browns, and went to the pro bowl.

and he's clearly NOT the answer?

And Quinn can't win a game vs a paper bag, but you still ain't sure about him yet.

thanks for the input.

Lumbergh

@jadbf said:
So that's still 5 games to 6.

Good point. So all Quinn needs to do then is toss 8 TDs next sunday and he'll be on par with DA.

? Masters

@lumbergh said:
yeah Anderson only won 13 games, for the Cleveland Browns, and went to the pro bowl.
and he's clearly NOT the answer?

And Quinn can't win a game vs a paper bag, but you still ain't sure about him yet.

thanks for the input.

CLE won 13 games. DA went to the Pro Bowl. So have many guys who aren't actually that good.

DA is clearly not the answer. Quinn may not be either.

Since when is a SB contending team in MIN a paper bag?

Thanks for you wasted input.

Lumbergh

@jadbf said:
And yet he still isn't starting...Imagine that...

Randy Lerner will relent soon with the Quinn edict if this keeps up. Homeboy Quinn used to have his name chanted when he sat on the bench and flexed his biceps to the crowd. Now that he's playing in the game he's driving the fans away with his ineptness. Randy may know dick about football and listens too hard to the BQ lovin crowd, but he knows an empty stadium when he sees one.

Randy's learning the hard way. The best way to make the fans happy is to win, not just to tell the coach to play their favorite QB.

Yesterday's game was the 2nd lowest attended in the last 10 years.

? Masters

@lumbergh said:
Good point. So all Quinn needs to do then is toss 8 TDs next sunday and he'll be on par with DA.

And Quinn needs to toss 7 INTs to be on par with DA through his first 5 starts.

Lumbergh

@inspecta said:
But it figures Lumbergh is the only poster on this board who's happy as a pig n' shit over what happened yesterday. He woke up giving high fives and dick slaps to his Anderson poster while chanting "Soon...soon...soon my lover you will get back to a starting position!!"""

This is what went through Inspecta's mind last night as he cried himself to sleep.