Mayfield
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/09/baker-mayfield-completely-shocked-by-raiders-decision-on-last-td/
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The 27-year-old touched down in Los Angeles on Tuesday night, practiced with the team on Wednesday, and became an overnight hero for a struggling Rams team that lost six straight before his arrival.
Mayfield went 22 of 35 for 230 yards and a touchdown with zero interceptions in his Rams debut."
"Mayfield also received praise on the sidelines from Rams starter Matthew Stafford, who was placed on injured reserve on Saturday due to a spinal contusion. "
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After the game, head coach Sean McVay praised Mayfield in a victory speech before tossing him the game ball.
“To be able to come in here 10 minutes ago and help lead us to a victory, see you guys on Monday — Baker Mayfield,” McVay said."
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that's 62% of his passes. Nah, Mjp - you didn't "tell us so" lol
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Big game against the Tuck boys.
Yes INDEED; but apparently we don't have enough Baker Mayfield threads yet.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
So, I came across this article - the inside story about Mayfield's big day with the Rams.
It's funny - I'm really admiring McVay for his sense of humor, and insight.
This is a fun read:
Inside Baker Mayfield's first 48 hours with the Rams and his stunning debut win
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Of a team with no first rounder, but eight draft picks in Rounds 2-7?
Yes, yes we are.
Um...i was thinking of a team that couldnt do anything with multiple years worth of first round picks and is still deficient.
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/09/baker-mayfield-completely-shocked-by-raiders-decision-on-last-td/
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The 27-year-old touched down in Los Angeles on Tuesday night, practiced with the team on Wednesday, and became an overnight hero for a struggling Rams team that lost six straight before his arrival.
Mayfield went 22 of 35 for 230 yards and a touchdown with zero interceptions in his Rams debut."
"Mayfield also received praise on the sidelines from Rams starter Matthew Stafford, who was placed on injured reserve on Saturday due to a spinal contusion. "
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After the game, head coach Sean McVay praised Mayfield in a victory speech before tossing him the game ball.
“To be able to come in here 10 minutes ago and help lead us to a victory, see you guys on Monday — Baker Mayfield,” McVay said."
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that's 62% of his passes. Nah, Mjp - you didn't "tell us so" lol
https://nypost.com/2022/12/09/baker-mayfield-completely-shocked-by-raiders-decision-on-last-td/
..... After the game, head coach Sean McVay praised Mayfield in a victory speech before tossing him the game ball.
“To be able to come in here 10 minutes ago and help lead us to a victory, see you guys on Monday — Baker Mayfield,” McVay said."
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that's 62% of his passes. Nah, Mjp - you didn't "tell us so" lol
I think that's called one game, we'll see as time goes on. Didn't he do the same thing in Cleveland only to become very inconsistent and eventually end up in Carolina.
And 62% completions about average for a professional NFL quarterback. Better than in Carolina I believe.
And that didn't go well, who knows maybe he will like it in LA LA Land, maybe not. We'll see next game and next year. Best of luck to him.
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I guess Carolina were dopes for cutting him then.
Their offense doesn't work - lol - hasn't worked well at all since they lost Cam Newton. They only passed for 120 yards, but their running game rampaged over the lowly seahawks' defense today. So far, their passing game doesn't work for any qb they've tried. They did fire their bad hc, though.....
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its funny that darnold won after cutting baker
He struggled most of the game. Fortunately, the seahawks defense is very, very bad. Go look at several scores - 30 some points, 40 points again and again. Funny that the Panthers lost all those games before Baker ever got there, so there's that.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Let's assess it in the real world. There is no guarantee that any of us will be here tomorrow. What we DO have, is today, the present.
In the present, Mayfield did well and has many ridiculing the Browns organization.
In the present, Watson is a $230 million discombobulated fucknuts.
If the world ends tomorrow, it ends after a Mayfield KO punch.
Watson is a better quarterback than Mayfield.
that’s all that matters. He proved that during the cincy game that he’s only going to get better. At this time next year, we will see how Watson looks comparative to Mayfield. And go from there.
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Also, without moronic play Calling from our head slouch, the browns should’ve been within a score at the end 23-16. Who knows what happens then. It wasn’t as bad of a game as ppl make it out to be. Our head coach got out coached and our line is broken due to injuries. That’s why we lost
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gus ferrot be like stop it with the head butts Baker!
gus ferrot be like stop it with the head butts Baker!
If he keeps doing that he might go the by way Joe Louis did... mush for brains...
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Let's assess it in the real world. There is no guarantee that any of us will be here tomorrow. What we DO have, is today, the present.
In the present, Mayfield did well and has many ridiculing the Browns organization.
In the present, Watson is a $230 million discombobulated fucknuts.
If the world ends tomorrow, it ends after a Mayfield KO punch.
Watson is a better quarterback than Mayfield.
that’s all that matters. He proved that during the cincy game that he’s only going to get better. At this time next year, we will see how Watson looks comparative to Mayfield. And go from there.
Watson is a better quarterback than Mayfield.
that’s all that matters. He proved that during the cincy game that he’s only going to get better. At this time next year, we will see how Watson looks comparative to Mayfield. And go from there.
How in Hell did he prove he's only going to get better?? ....because he sucks in back to back games? WTF kind of logic are you using to get that conclusion? As Ghoolie stated....based on the last game each has played, Mayfield is clearly the better qb. I guess the real question is...would you rather have a sexual predator who had good stats 2 years ago, or an insecure head case, who, at the moment, is playing well?
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Been a while since I've done this, I've moved onto other ventures. However this was one of those things I was working on, I know (knew) exactly what would be said on this board... down to the poster and the verbiage. Figured I'd add some reality to the Baker situation, and now him being in L.A.
@hoorta and @flugel Since you guys have specifically asked about my work and my (lack of) recent presence on the board.
Including his time in Carolina.
- Baker is 31st in all qualifying QB's for on target percentage throws.
- 7th in "poor" throws (off target) per pass attempts (Note, 7th isn't good)
- 6th in passes batted away by the defender at or behind the line
- The Rams are tied with Baltimore at 33% of their total offensive plays being play action oriented
In the Rams first 5 drives with Baker at QB.
- Averaged throwing play action at 53.75% of his throws. I'm discounting the drive before half because that's where your throwing plays at the wall beyond your scripted drives.
In those 5 series
- 11 personnel ALL snaps but 1. However, I'm also being rather generous with 11 personnel, as the Rams utilize 2nd TE/ 3rd WR Skowronek - at 6'3 225lbs. Gives them size flexibility. So I'm calling this 11 & 1/2 personnel.
- 2 and 3 man patterns with 'max pro' were used 7 times in those 5 drives. That is, in football terms, a fuck ton.
- Mirrored concepts and simple zone floods were used almost 60% of the snaps.
- The raiders stayed in man coverage or non-rotated spot zone calls, primarily cover 3, on all snaps except 4. Of those 4 snaps, Baker didn't have a single completion. AND... my favorite, a familiar call back to the Packers game from last season that I'm going to share here.
First, the 'call back'.
Page 35, 9th post down. The yankee call vs the Packers
Yankee vs Raiders, Last week though....
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@calfoxwc Baker is no longer dealing with injury. Yet he's making the EXACT same mistakes as he was almost one year to date. No, this is not a chemistry issue, this is not a playcall or coaching issue. This is a vertical landmark throw that goes read to rhythm, hi low off the middle field safety. Read the post, work down to the deep over then the flat. All a QB has to do is see it open, then put it on an absolute frozen rope. And from what I can tell, Bakers arm strength is still plenty good. This is a Baker issue.
See, he does good work in the short to intermediate game and off play action. But his decision making when he he wants to, or has to drive the ball vertically.... not locating safeties, locking onto things presnap, not dealing with pressure despite having a clean pocket; then toss in the intermediate throws when he takes straight drops - really has been revealed as him 'guessing' at best a good lot of the time. And by guessing I mean him making determinations presnap, failing to understand and process quickly post snap, but locking into his throws after the ball is in his hands.
Sadly, what Baker is good at is what 80+% of the QB's in the NFL are good at. Because it's high school level work, again talking football terms. What separates the 20% from the rest is their ability to do the high level stuff with a reasonable amount of consistency.
What I'm showing you is the exact same concept, the exact same personnel, on the exact same down and distance that Baker got to see vs the Packers as he did in L.A. The only difference in these results is that Baker was fortunate his receiver and the Raiders safety got their feet tangled up and both were taken out of the play. Otherwise, just like that Packers game, this too would have been an INT.
I'm going through the rest of Bakers throws, but I have a feeling the trends he has displayed the past 4 & 1/2 seasons will be the exact same, barring a few "nice" moments.
Comparing the offenses, Baker was given an offensive structure that is almost identical to what he ran under Cleveland, minus a few subtle differences in where routes begin then end up. McVay is a solid coach, but as I said over a week ago, he has put together game plans like this for a similar QB - Goff. So this isn't some testament to his coaching prowess and him being able to "mold" QB's. He could only take Jared so far and was handed a pro-bowler in his twilight with Stafford. It's a a testament to him finding players with a skillset he's used to having to gameplan with, and understanding that what they do helps to mask those QB shortcomings. On several of the Rams plays, they'd come out and run on 2nd down what they did on 1st down, only flipped to the opposite hash.
Watson has to improve. But if the measure of good QB play is Baker only "repeating" what he did last week, then every team the Rams play against will need to have a defensive collapse or a bad matchup in the running game. Otherwise the hen the Rams offense will sputter and stall. And, given what I just showed you above, the interceptions will again start to show up at the worst possible times. Mayfield's penchant for bad decision making when it matters most hasn't been magically coached out of him by McVay. It's still there, and it's a matter of time before it bites the Rams in the ass.
Good on Baker for the throws he did make, but what he did in L.A was nothing all that different than what he did in Cleveland... and then some. This isn't a rebirth, it's Baker doing Baker things, just in the largest sports market on Earth next to New York. Which means if he's the Rams starter, they're going to have to take the good, and do their best to minimize the bad.
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