Mayfield
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It's not my reading comprehension at fault here. It's more your dumbass comparison of Mayfield to Colt McCoy. I couldn't care less where Mayfield ends up....or Watson, for that matter. I get damn sick of you guys taking any shot you can at a guy who came in here, and brought this team back from 1 - 31 and finally gave us something to get excited about. Lifelong fan??....have you been there since 1960 like
Yeah, FYI I've been around the football world as long as you have.... Yep, Baker took the Browns to the playoffs... You still giddy that Jim Brown won us the NFL Championship in 1964? That's one outlier year for Mayfield, and what the experts opined about Baker rang true again Monday night, he's maddeningly inconsistent. He was pretty pedestrian against the Packers, Captain check down.. And I saw at least one play where Baker had a two guys wide open (shades of the OBJ bitch) and he didn't see them.
Of course Cult Baker is still making excuses for him and can't come to admit Mayfield is another Andy Dalton who can only succeed if the surrounding cast is studly all world.
It amazes me that for all the people that wanted to run Mayfield out of town , They sure want to keep talking and scrutinizing about him... I guess they aren't happy enough... I mean Jesus .. Let the kid go live his life for chrissake... he's not a Brown anymore... Some of you pussies need to move on and focus on Watson.. He's the QB now... (Not directed at you Cal). I wish the kid nothing but success except when playing against us... I will keep an eye on him from a far... All that being said... Go Browns!
That's the problem with Cult Baker nickers... And it IS a cult. Should we analyze everything former Brown Jarvis Landry is doing with the Saints? Maybe rave about how great Jordan Poyer is playing for the Bills? Sheeezzzeee!!!! I'm more than happy to let it go and move on. THEY'RE the ones who can't let it go, and follow his every doing around the league like a bunch of pathetic lapdogs. I learned long ago not to fall in love with particular Browns players (with few exceptions). I still have a Tim Couch gathering dust in my basement as a reminder of that.
PS Tia- I hope you bet a ton on the Packers to cover last night. It could have been more than 12, if they didn't do a series of kneel downs to run out the clock at the end of the game.
Yeah, FYI I've been around the football world as long as you have.... Yep, Baker took the Browns to the playoffs... You still giddy that Jim Brown won us the NFL Championship in 1964? That's one outlier year for Mayfield, and what the experts opined about Baker rang true again Monday night, he's maddeningly inconsistent. He was pretty pedestrian against the Packers, Captain check down.. And I saw at least one play where Baker had a two guys wide open (shades of the OBJ bitch) and he didn't see them.
Of course Cult Baker is still making excuses for him and can't come to admit Mayfield is another Andy Dalton who can only succeed if the surrounding cast is studly all world.
That's the problem with Cult Baker nickers... And it IS a cult. Should we analyze everything former Brown Jarvis Landry is doing with the Saints? Maybe rave about how great Jordan Poyer is playing for the Bills? Sheeezzzeee!!!! I'm more than happy to let it go and move on. THEY'RE the ones who can't let it go, and follow his every doing around the league like a bunch of pathetic lapdogs. I learned long ago not to fall in love with particular Browns players (with few exceptions). I still have a Tim Couch gathering dust in my basement as a reminder of that.
PS Tia- I hope you bet a ton on the Packers to cover last night. It could have been more than 12, if they didn't do a series of kneel downs to run out the clock at the end of the game.
Holy crap!...you Mayfield haters are the ones guilty of not letting go. No matter what he does, you have to start a thread about it...not you personally, but the "Anti Baker cult" you belong to. I already stated more than once....I don't really care what he does, but I will defend him when you're comparing him to Colt McCoy. How many playoff games did Colt win when he was here? I have to correct about the '64 Championship game. Jim Brown didn't really have much to do with that one sided domination of the Colts. It was all Frank Ryan and Gary Collins.
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Yeah, FYI I've been around the football world as long as you have.... Yep, Baker took the Browns to the playoffs... You still giddy that Jim Brown won us the NFL Championship in 1964? That's one outlier year for Mayfield, and what the experts opined about Baker rang true again Monday night, he's maddeningly inconsistent. He was pretty pedestrian against the Packers, Captain check down.. And I saw at least one play where Baker had a two guys wide open (shades of the OBJ bitch) and he didn't see them.
Of course Cult Baker is still making excuses for him and can't come to admit Mayfield is another Andy Dalton who can only succeed if the surrounding cast is studly all world.
That's the problem with Cult Baker nickers... And it IS a cult. Should we analyze everything former Brown Jarvis Landry is doing with the Saints? Maybe rave about how great Jordan Poyer is playing for the Bills? Sheeezzzeee!!!! I'm more than happy to let it go and move on. THEY'RE the ones who can't let it go, and follow his every doing around the league like a bunch of pathetic lapdogs. I learned long ago not to fall in love with particular Browns players (with few exceptions). I still have a Tim Couch gathering dust in my basement as a reminder of that.
PS Tia- I hope you bet a ton on the Packers to cover last night. It could have been more than 12, if they didn't do a series of kneel downs to run out the clock at the end of the game.
Holy crap!...you Mayfield haters are the ones guilty of not letting go. No matter what he does, you have to start a thread about it...not you personally, but the "Anti Baker cult" you belong to. I already stated more than once....I don't really care what he does, but I will defend him when you're comparing him to Colt McCoy. How many playoff games did Colt win when he was here? I have to correct about the '64 Championship game. Jim Brown didn't really have much to do with that one sided domination of the Colts. It was all Frank Ryan and Gary Collins.
Holy crap!...you Mayfield haters are the ones guilty of not letting go. No matter what he does, you have to start a thread about it...not you personally, but the "Anti Baker cult" you belong to. I already stated more than once....I don't really care what he does, but I will defend him when you're comparing him to Colt McCoy. How many playoff games did Colt win when he was here? I have to correct about the '64 Championship game. Jim Brown didn't really have much to do with that one sided domination of the Colts. It was all Frank Ryan and Gary Collins.
Telling the truth about a player doesn't make one a hater. That's you taking things way out of context in order for you to think you have a point.
After losing his starting job in Carolina to the guy he was supposed to upgrade, Baker is now filling in for an injured starter on another team just like Colt McCoy. The only difference is Baker was a 1st overall pick while Colt McCoy was a 3rd round pick. Filling in for injured starters on other teams doesn't get most of us agreeing that's a 1st overall pick acing the gig.
Go Browns!
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18/20 for 185 and 2 TD.
Yep. But I'm figuring that the watson boys will whine endlessly about the four incompletions in that game.
Mayfield absolutely mastered that win in the passing game. Actually, he was 24 of 28. Zero ints, zero sacks. 2 TDs.
Cam Akers at rb? 23 carries for 118 yards and 3 TDs.
MERRY CHRISTMAS ! That, btw is 85.6% of his passes completed.
hoorta and tiam can go suck on watson's toes. They are on watson's virtual massage table with him, let them lay in it.
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If anyone watched baker play for Cleveland they’d see a mediocre QB that couldn’t throw over his line unless it was 30 yards over his receivers dead.
the guy got benched for darnold and cut, reportedly locker room cancer.
he has two good games and now we all love him? Makes no sense.
watson played average which is whatever, but baker is not an nfl starter.
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Glad Baker had a good game. I wonder which team he'll be on next year.
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If anyone watched baker play for Cleveland they’d see a mediocre QB that couldn’t throw over his line unless it was 30 yards over his receivers dead.
the guy got benched for darnold and cut, reportedly locker room cancer.
he has two good games and now we all love him? Makes no sense.
watson played average which is whatever, but baker is not an nfl starter.
If anyone watched baker play for Cleveland they’d see a mediocre QB that couldn’t throw over his line unless it was 30 yards over his receivers dead.
the guy got benched for darnold and cut, reportedly locker room cancer.
he has two good games and now we all love him? Makes no sense.
watson played average which is whatever, but baker is not an nfl starter.
Mayfield probably is an average NFL starting quarterback with occasional above average games (just check his CLE and CAR stats.) He did crack into the playoffs before fizzling out.
BRM is NOT a franchise quarterback which is what the Cleveland BROWNS have needed for a few decades ..... or more.
Watson has NFL Player of the Year and has franchise opportunities especially with a little good help and maybe a better play caller ! I think that's been quite apparent since he has hit the field.
Besides he's already been paid for better let him open it up ..... without forgetting to RUN THE BALL TOO.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
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If anyone watched baker play for Cleveland they’d see a mediocre QB that couldn’t throw over his line unless it was 30 yards over his receivers dead.
the guy got benched for darnold and cut, reportedly locker room cancer.
he has two good games and now we all love him? Makes no sense.
watson played average which is whatever, but baker is not an nfl starter.
Mayfield probably is an average NFL starting quarterback with occasional above average games (just check his CLE and CAR stats.) He did crack into the playoffs before fizzling out.
BRM is NOT a franchise quarterback which is what the Cleveland BROWNS have needed for a few decades ..... or more.
Watson has NFL Player of the Year and has franchise opportunities especially with a little good help and maybe a better play caller ! I think that's been quite apparent since he has hit the field.
Besides he's already been paid for better let him open it up ..... without forgetting to RUN THE BALL TOO.
BRM is NOT a franchise quarterback which is what the Cleveland BROWNS have needed for a few decades ..... or more.
Sean McVay is a big reason why Mayfield looks like a franchise quarterback right now. Sometimes it just takes the right system and coach. What if Mayfield was drafted by McVay and the Rams? What if Tom Brady was drafted by the Lions, would he have 7 super bowls?
Speaking of Brady, finally looks like he's at the end of the line.
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BRM is NOT a franchise quarterback which is what the Cleveland BROWNS have needed for a few decades ..... or more.
Sean McVay is a big reason why Mayfield looks like a franchise quarterback right now. Sometimes it just takes the right system and coach. What if Mayfield was drafted by McVay and the Rams? What if Tom Brady was drafted by the Lions, would he have 7 super bowls?
Speaking of Brady, finally looks like he's at the end of the line.
Sean McVay is a big reason why Mayfield looks like a franchise quarterback right now. Sometimes it just takes the right system and coach. What if Mayfield was drafted by McVay and the Rams? What if Tom Brady was drafted by the Lions, would he have 7 super bowls?
Speaking of Brady, finally looks like he's at the end of the line.
Yes. Brady has that worn out look on the field. But going for another OT win.
...... edit add, and he did it 19-16 final.
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Sean McVay is a big reason why Mayfield looks like a franchise quarterback right now. Sometimes it just takes the right system and coach. What if Mayfield was drafted by McVay and the Rams? What if Tom Brady was drafted by the Lions, would he have 7 super bowls?
Speaking of Brady, finally looks like he's at the end of the line.
Yes. Brady has that worn out look on the field. But going for another OT win.
...... edit add, and he did it 19-16 final.
Yes. Brady has that worn out look on the field. But going for another OT win.
...... edit add, and he did it 19-16 final.
He's still got it between the ears, but he has been underthrowing his receivers the past few games. Like he doesn't have the arm anymore. I have been following him his whole career, it's going to be a sad day when he's no longer on the field. I don't care what the haters say.
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If anyone watched baker play for Cleveland they’d see a mediocre QB that couldn’t throw over his line unless it was 30 yards over his receivers dead.
the guy got benched for darnold and cut, reportedly locker room cancer.
he has two good games and now we all love him? Makes no sense.
watson played average which is whatever, but baker is not an nfl starter.
If anyone watched baker play for Cleveland they’d see a mediocre QB that couldn’t throw over his line unless it was 30 yards over his receivers dead.
the guy got benched for darnold and cut, reportedly locker room cancer.
he has two good games and now we all love him? Makes no sense.
watson played average which is whatever, but baker is not an nfl starter.
Average??...47.1 qb rating?...135 yards...0 tds and 1 int.??? ..if that's acceptable to you, then you deserve him.
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Glad Baker had a good game. I wonder which team he'll be on next year.
They showed this weekend, that since Carolina replaced Baker - they are now one of the teams in the NFC with a chance to make the playoffs.
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They showed this weekend, that since Carolina replaced Baker - they are now one of the teams in the NFC with a chance to make the playoffs.
Nobody really gives a crap about Carolina....unless you're suggesting that Cleveland should follow that example and get rid of Watson to enhance their playoff chances.
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If anyone watched baker play for Cleveland they’d see a mediocre QB that couldn’t throw over his line unless it was 30 yards over his receivers dead.
the guy got benched for darnold and cut, reportedly locker room cancer.
he has two good games and now we all love him? Makes no sense.
watson played average which is whatever, but baker is not an nfl starter.
Average??...47.1 qb rating?...135 yards...0 tds and 1 int.??? ..if that's acceptable to you, then you deserve him.
Average??...47.1 qb rating?...135 yards...0 tds and 1 int.??? ..if that's acceptable to you, then you deserve him.
I was fine with what he did because I watched the game. Cleveland Browns fans have a tendency to watch their team while Baker Mayfield groupies have a tendency to worry more about him keeping the career alive after he failed miserably in Carolina.
If you watched the game you would have seen TD passes bouncing off Cooper, DPJ and Njoku. Last year at this time, Baker threw 4 INTs on Christmas Day at Green Bay.
Watson has been to 3 Pro Bowls and Baker has been to zero. Watson's passer ratings throughout his 1st 4 seasons were way better than Baker's.
Those that were here, unlike you, know many of us wanted him to succeed here. He had a very promising rookie year and even broke a record for TD passes. Unfortunately, we didn't see the same guy the next year. I thought his 3rd season was pretty good in a sense he threw 26 TDs to only 8 INTs and was opportunistic in the playoffs with all the short fields the defense got him intercepting Roethlisberger 5 times. The game started 7-0 before our offense took it's 1st snap.
At least Baker looks like a starter playing for a Defending Superbowl Champion; because he only looked like the 3rd best QB in Carolina.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
The amount of people damning and praising Baker is still alarming to me.
He's played well when the game script and running game works. Last night, he thrived in that situation. It's a testament to what he's capable of doing when the right conditions are met. Credit to him for the work put in and the throws made, while also giving credit to McVay and the Rams front office for bringing Baker in.
There's no need to felate the man for throwing 230 yards with an 8yp target average. And there's no need to put him down either. He did all that was asked and a little more at times. I hate John Elway as a talent evaluator so when I see Denver implode, it validates the work I do and the work I put in on Paxton Lynch.
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They showed this weekend, that since Carolina replaced Baker - they are now one of the teams in the NFC with a chance to make the playoffs.
Nobody really gives a crap about Carolina....unless you're suggesting that Cleveland should follow that example and get rid of Watson to enhance their playoff chances.
Nobody really gives a crap about Carolina....unless you're suggesting that Cleveland should follow that example and get rid of Watson to enhance their playoff chances.
Well, Baker should have because as much as you're rooting for the Rams more than you're rooting for the Browns - the ONLY reason he's there is because Matthew Stafford is on IR and Baker got demoted to 3rd on Carolina's depth chart. He's 2-2 on a team that was 4-7.
How many ways do you want to compare Baker to Watson starting with College Football. Baker never made it out of the 1st round of the BCS Playoffs. Watson shredded Ohio State in the playoffs before beating Alabama for the National Championship.
Watson has 3 Pro Bowls, 2 playoff appearances and some elite passer rating in his first 4 years.
Baker has 0 Pro Bowls, 1 playoff appearance and often had passer ratings that ranked him anywhere between 16 + 32 overall.
Above all, isn't it funny that not 1 of Baker's former teammates in Cleveland had any positive things to say about him? Not 1 guy spoke up in his favor or said they wished him well. Nobody. When Bernie left here - a lot of guys had his back with how much he's meant to this franchise and they would miss him. With Baker? 0.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Average??...47.1 qb rating?...135 yards...0 tds and 1 int.??? ..if that's acceptable to you, then you deserve him.
I was fine with what he did because I watched the game. Cleveland Browns fans have a tendency to watch their team while Baker Mayfield groupies have a tendency to worry more about him keeping the career alive after he failed miserably in Carolina.
If you watched the game you would have seen TD passes bouncing off Cooper, DPJ and Njoku. Last year at this time, Baker threw 4 INTs on Christmas Day at Green Bay.
Watson has been to 3 Pro Bowls and Baker has been to zero. Watson's passer ratings throughout his 1st 4 seasons were way better than Baker's.
Those that were here, unlike you, know many of us wanted him to succeed here. He had a very promising rookie year and even broke a record for TD passes. Unfortunately, we didn't see the same guy the next year. I thought his 3rd season was pretty good in a sense he threw 26 TDs to only 8 INTs and was opportunistic in the playoffs with all the short fields the defense got him intercepting Roethlisberger 5 times. The game started 7-0 before our offense took it's 1st snap.
At least Baker looks like a starter playing for a Defending Superbowl Champion; because he only looked like the 3rd best QB in Carolina.
I was fine with what he did because I watched the game. Cleveland Browns fans have a tendency to watch their team while Baker Mayfield groupies have a tendency to worry more about him keeping the career alive after he failed miserably in Carolina.
If you watched the game you would have seen TD passes bouncing off Cooper, DPJ and Njoku. Last year at this time, Baker threw 4 INTs on Christmas Day at Green Bay.
Watson has been to 3 Pro Bowls and Baker has been to zero. Watson's passer ratings throughout his 1st 4 seasons were way better than Baker's.
Those that were here, unlike you, know many of us wanted him to succeed here. He had a very promising rookie year and even broke a record for TD passes. Unfortunately, we didn't see the same guy the next year. I thought his 3rd season was pretty good in a sense he threw 26 TDs to only 8 INTs and was opportunistic in the playoffs with all the short fields the defense got him intercepting Roethlisberger 5 times. The game started 7-0 before our offense took it's 1st snap.
At least Baker looks like a starter playing for a Defending Superbowl Champion; because he only looked like the 3rd best QB in Carolina.
So....your point is that Watson WAS a better qb at some point....ok. I did watch as much of that game that I could possibly watch without puking. These excuses you're using for Watson, never were considered for Mayfield. Like I said...if your comfortable with Watson's stats...including a 69.3 qb rating for the season, I guess I'm just a little more demanding of a guy that is advertised as a " top 5 qb", "elite", and a "franchise qb". Especially, at the cost.
Who knows, hes on #3 pretty quick.
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