Anderson is gaining leverage
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Jake Delhomme is on pretty thin ice in Carolina with 11 turnovers in 2 games.
Their QB coach is some dude by the name of Rip Scherer
And now they've got only 2 QBs on the roster.
with the Brady Quinn experiment looking like a train wreck, Cleveland probably doesn't want to let DA go anytime soon.
Anderson may have some good options, coming very soon.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...t-chase-feeley/
Jake Delhomme is on pretty thin ice in Carolina with 11 turnovers in 2 games.
Their QB coach is some dude by the name of Rip Scherer
And now they've got only 2 QBs on the roster.
with the Brady Quinn experiment looking like a train wreck, Cleveland probably doesn't want to let DA go anytime soon.
Anderson may have some good options, coming very soon.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...t-chase-feeley/
DA isnt going anywhere and i doubt very seriously he would want to work with rip(the butcher)scherer again he has done a great job with delhomme the same butcher job in fact he done here...at this point im not sold on BQ and im positive mangoofy isnt either the way our o-line is DA will get his shot at some point....
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DA isn't going anywhere, any time soon. With the way the QB situation has played out so far, it's obvious to me at least, that our coaching staff doesn't really love, or maybe even like, either guy. If BQ continues to struggle in the next 2-4 games, EM will have no choice but to try "the other guy". There's no way he's going to back himself into a corner by having just one underwhelming QB, when he can have two, and at least another option.
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I agree, but that will change based on the severity of Quinn's struggles. We the fans, have definitely earned the right to be impatient when it comes to expecting good football, and yesterdays boos, from the same fans who earlier screamed "BRADY", prove that EM won't have the luxury of waiting game after game for Quinn to reach expectations.
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@shepwrite said:
You can't bench a young QB after 3 or 4 starts.FYI, Brady Quinn was benched in his 3rd start.
And he probably should have been benched in his 4th start.
Mangini won't bench him right now. But if he plays like he has, he ain't gonna get to 70% of this yrs snaps either.
But I agree that Quinn has been mismanaged. Too many pillows taped to his ass to cushion his falls. If he wasn't a first rd pick, he'd have been "Gradkowskied" by now.
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@shepwrite said:
You can't bench a young QB after 3 or 4 starts.FYI, Brady Quinn was benched in his 3rd start.
And he probably should have been benched in his 4th start.
Mangini won't bench him right now. But if he plays like he has, he ain't gonna get to 70% of this yrs snaps either.
But I agree that Quinn has been mismanaged. Too many pillows taped to his ass to cushion his falls. If he wasn't a first rd pick, he'd have been "Gradkowskied" by now.
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@shepwrite said:
Matt Moore continues to not be very good. He's a career 64.0 passer, even lower than Anderson rang up in 2008.Yikes that's almost as bad as Brady Quinn's career passer rating.
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Maybe so WPBD....but much of the numbers came in "who cares" time.
having been at the game....it didn't look very good to be honest.....but 1 game doesn't tell the tale.
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what was Quinns numbers this week Rating wise
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what was Quinns numbers this week Rating wise
what was Quinns numbers this week Rating wise
A frisky 74.1.
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haha i live in charlotte and they want his head here. I was at a bar watching the browns game and people were just literally throwing shit at the t.v.'s. People haven't liked him in Carolina for years, but for some reason he keeps getting the snaps.
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Unbelievable that Delhomme got a contract like that - he has NEVER been what I think of as a guy to build the franchise around. That playoff game last year and yesterday's game prove it.
Yesterday was tough for us, but man, we didn't have as much QB suckage as Carolina did. Or CHI for that matter.
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DA is gaining leverage on what? The end of the bench? This isn't tetter-totter land, Numnuts.
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Oh, boy. Now DA has imaginary suitors, teams that REALLY REALLY REALLY want him, huh?
If a team wanted DA, they could have him for a 2nd round pick. Guaranteed.
So if a team as desperate at QB as Carolina isn't willing to give up a 2nd for DA, what does that say about DA?
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@danamal said:
DA is what he is,A vey well qualified backup QB,for anyone who thinks he's more is dillusional.
Im not going to bash the guy he isnt a starter but he's a good stop gap.
yea, kinda like kelly holcolm with a big arm.
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@shepwrite said:
If Quinn sucks for 6-8 weeks, I'd love to give Anderson another look. I'm totally serious. I'll be cheering my ass off, because I don't love this QB class at all.Probably isn't useful to talk in terms of classes: all you need is to fall in love with one guy, like you did with Sanchez.
But if we're going to talk about classes, I'd predict that next year's will afford a different opportunity: the chance to draft a guy in Rd. 2 or 3 who might be the guy.
If the coaching staff is unsure about Quinn, they could draft a McCoy, Pike, or Hiller to groom behind him. That's because next year will have a deeper, more talented senior class, even if the top QB prospects are underclassmen (guys like Bradford, Clausen, Locker, and Snead).
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@shepwrite said:
If Quinn sucks for 6-8 weeks, I'd love to give Anderson another look. I'm totally serious. I'll be cheering my ass off, because I don't love this QB class at all.Probably isn't useful to talk in terms of classes: all you need is to fall in love with one guy, like you did with Sanchez.
But if we're going to talk about classes, I'd predict that next year's will afford a different opportunity: the chance to draft a guy in Rd. 2 or 3 who might be the guy.
If the coaching staff is unsure about Quinn, they could draft a McCoy, Pike, or Hiller to groom behind him. That's because next year will have a deeper, more talented senior class, even if the top QB prospects are underclassmen (guys like Bradford, Clausen, Locker, and Snead).
Aloysius said:
Probably isn't useful to talk in terms of classes: all you need is to fall in love with one guy, like you did with Sanchez.But if we're going to talk about classes, I'd predict that next year's will afford a different opportunity: the chance to draft a guy in Rd. 2 or 3 who might be the guy.
If the coaching staff is unsure about Quinn, they could draft a McCoy, Pike, or Hiller to groom behind him. That's because next year will have a deeper, more talented senior class, even if the top QB prospects are underclassmen (guys like Bradford, Clausen, Locker, and Snead).
Cleveland Browns, the land of the eternal QB controversy.
(that's what the land would be if they went with your idea, or what you think they might do.)
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Aloysius said:
Probably isn't useful to talk in terms of classes: all you need is to fall in love with one guy, like you did with Sanchez.But if we're going to talk about classes, I'd predict that next year's will afford a different opportunity: the chance to draft a guy in Rd. 2 or 3 who might be the guy.
If the coaching staff is unsure about Quinn, they could draft a McCoy, Pike, or Hiller to groom behind him. That's because next year will have a deeper, more talented senior class, even if the top QB prospects are underclassmen (guys like Bradford, Clausen, Locker, and Snead).
Cleveland Browns, the land of the eternal QB controversy.
(that's what the land would be if they went with your idea, or what you think they might do.)
Cleveland Browns, the land of the eternal QB controversy.
(that's what the land would be if they went with your idea, or what you think they might do.)
That would be the public perception, but I'm not sure how much it would bother Mangini. I'd guess he's more concerned about finding the right QB, which was a big part of why he lost his job in New York.
And picking up a guy in the 2nd or 3rd would be the more conservative move (compared to using a top 10 pick on a QB), which would fit Mangini's MO.
It's just an idea. Hopefully, Quinn plays well enough that we can focus on filling other needs.
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Barring injury, Quinn is your starter this year. Put away the being pulled talk.
If a trade comes along for DA then make it. Quinn stays until a completely different QB shows up on our roster.
I love how all the new posters show up and belly ache without having realistic expectations about what needs to happen in CLE before we are a serious playoff contender. The NFL is set up so that anyone can be a playoff team, meaning anything is possible but lets settle on making a team of proffessionals this year. You can't weed out all the losers in one season.
Comparing us to other turnaround franchises isn't fair we have truly been a expansion team since our comeback.
If we can be encouraged to part of a REAL rebuilding, then let it happen. Otherwise it will become the standard Cleveland beat down. Not pretty or successful.
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