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  • I'll just say it right now... I expect no better results next year... Haslam still owns it and Shithispantski  is still part of of it...

  • That was a playoff game for the Steelers. A must win.

    We did have a QB once that beat the Steelers in their house in a playoff game, so it can be done.

    @fy56 said:

    That was a playoff game for the Steelers. A must win.

    We did have a QB once that beat the Steelers in their house in a playoff game, so it can be done.

    Didn't realize Watson played defense too. That blown coverage was an absolute back breaker. Nick Chubb hardly used. Yeah, Watson made some bad throws but is hardly the sole reason for the loss.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    It is Official.

    Woods relieved of his duties as D Coordinator 

    And like the old saying goes ....  "it's easier to get rid of one coach than   _ _  (?) number of players "....  but in this case it seems to be a step in the right direction. 

    Would the awful play caller might be next ?   R sure seemed like a good idea this past season. 

    @mjp28 said:

    And like the old saying goes ....  "it's easier to get rid of one coach than   _ _  (?) number of players "....  but in this case it seems to be a step in the right direction. 

    Would the awful play caller might be next ?   R sure seemed like a good idea this past season. 

    I for one would like to see Stefanski get that offensive play calling sheet away from his face, and actually see what’s going on.

    It seems he can’t relinquish his former life as an OC.

  • @mjp28 said:

    And like the old saying goes ....  "it's easier to get rid of one coach than   _ _  (?) number of players "....  but in this case it seems to be a step in the right direction. 

    Would the awful play caller might be next ?   R sure seemed like a good idea this past season. 

    I for one would like to see Stefanski get that offensive play calling sheet away from his face, and actually see what’s going on.

    It seems he can’t relinquish his former life as an OC.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I for one would like to see Stefanski get that offensive play calling sheet away from his face, and actually see what’s going on.

    It seems he can’t relinquish his former life as an OC.

    Man, this is it for me too. I'm all for giving Stef one more year as I have been an unwilling passenger on the Browns' new Head Coach carrousel before and all it does is make us sick. 

    But he has got to give away play calling in my eyes to have any chance at being successful. If he is allowed to call plays next year, he will compete to be the first Head Coach fired in early November. 

  • I was never a Joe Woods fan. Never an in game adjustment. As for Stefanski I  agree with  the above statements he needs to give up the play calling! Just be the head coach! Get in the ears of the coordinators,coaches,players, and the REFs!!!! He needs to have more fire? AND put more BOOTS TO ASSES!!! OR hire a defensive coordinator who can!?

    GO BROWNS!!!

  • I was never a Joe Woods fan. Never an in game adjustment. As for Stefanski I  agree with  the above statements he needs to give up the play calling! Just be the head coach! Get in the ears of the coordinators,coaches,players, and the REFs!!!! He needs to have more fire? AND put more BOOTS TO ASSES!!! OR hire a defensive coordinator who can!?

    GO BROWNS!!!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    I was never a Joe Woods fan. Never an in game adjustment. As for Stefanski I  agree with  the above statements he needs to give up the play calling! Just be the head coach! Get in the ears of the coordinators,coaches,players, and the REFs!!!! He needs to have more fire? AND put more BOOTS TO ASSES!!! OR hire a defensive coordinator who can!?

    GO BROWNS!!!

    I don't disagree, but in this era I'm not sure the players accept an " in your face" type style. 

    If anybody needs that it's our LT Wills. That guy appears to have no motivation.

  • To the people trashing Watson because he missed two years of football, just wondering why Mayfield gets a pass for playing on an injured shoulder. The coach never made him sit out so the next logical person is Mayfield. If he knew he wasn't 100% and still played, he pretty much fucked the season.

    But we already know why and it's has nothing to do with talent level. 

  • N Neo

    To the people trashing Watson because he missed two years of football, just wondering why Mayfield gets a pass for playing on an injured shoulder. The coach never made him sit out so the next logical person is Mayfield. If he knew he wasn't 100% and still played, he pretty much fucked the season.

    But we already know why and it's has nothing to do with talent level. 

    @neo said:

    To the people trashing Watson because he missed two years of football, just wondering why Mayfield gets a pass for playing on an injured shoulder. The coach never made him sit out so the next logical person is Mayfield. If he knew he wasn't 100% and still played, he pretty much fucked the season.

    But we already know why and it's has nothing to do with talent level. 

    1. Mayfield won more games his injured year than the browns this year.

    2. Being off two years WAS SOLELY watson's OWN FAULT.

    3. 230 million GUARANTEED and THREE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS for somebody who has "rust" ?

    4. watson got sacked all his career at a very high rate. That includes college, with no "rust" excuse.

    5. Face it, he  did NOT want to play for the browns. They should NEVER have given him that historically huge contract.

  • @neo said:

    To the people trashing Watson because he missed two years of football, just wondering why Mayfield gets a pass for playing on an injured shoulder. The coach never made him sit out so the next logical person is Mayfield. If he knew he wasn't 100% and still played, he pretty much fucked the season.

    But we already know why and it's has nothing to do with talent level. 

    1. Mayfield won more games his injured year than the browns this year.

    2. Being off two years WAS SOLELY watson's OWN FAULT.

    3. 230 million GUARANTEED and THREE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS for somebody who has "rust" ?

    4. watson got sacked all his career at a very high rate. That includes college, with no "rust" excuse.

    5. Face it, he  did NOT want to play for the browns. They should NEVER have given him that historically huge contract.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Being off two years WAS SOLELY watson's OWN FAULT.

    So Mayfield's injury not his own fault? Because I remember him taking on a DB with a full head of steam. Instead of playing hero, he should have let him go, or learn how to tackle properly. What about choosing to play injured and not getting his shoulder repaired, not his fault?

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  • I'm so sick of hearing people complaining about Watson. If you actually watched yesterday's game, the Browns were pass heavy which meant Steelers just pinned their ears back and went after Watson. The way the game was flowing is points were hard to come by, Steelers offense wasn't doing much. The blown coverage for a TD in a tight game was a killer, I didn't see how they would recover from that considering how well the D was playing early on. Giving that touchdown up had to be deflating. Watson made some costly mistakes but he also escaped countless sacks and had a big play called back on a penalty. I just don't see how Watson shoulders a majority of the blame for the loss. 

  • Watson is elusive!!

    Steelers 7 sacks

    Lol

  • It’s Monday morning, is he still here ? 

    @7moses7 said:

    It’s Monday morning, is he still here ? 

    On the radio today Stef said that he let him go last night.

    I guess we'll be finding out who Depodesta wants for DC.

  • I could definitely see a scenario where the Browns sign Brian Flores as DC, he becomes the HC when Stefanski gets canned, and Depodesta and Berry hire their hand-picked pass-happy OC. When Flores was HC in Miami, apparently they tried to get Watson. 

  • @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Gotta give Watson a full year a starter before I make any judgements.  

    He's garbage...

    @nickers said:

    He's garbage...

    incorrect

  • I could definitely see a scenario where the Browns sign Brian Flores as DC, he becomes the HC when Stefanski gets canned, and Depodesta and Berry hire their hand-picked pass-happy OC. When Flores was HC in Miami, apparently they tried to get Watson. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I could definitely see a scenario where the Browns sign Brian Flores as DC, he becomes the HC when Stefanski gets canned, and Depodesta and Berry hire their hand-picked pass-happy OC. When Flores was HC in Miami, apparently they tried to get Watson. 

    We've seen this play out before.  One year the DC gets it.  The next year it's the HC.  But I'm hoping against it as I kinda' like Stef and I'm sick of starting over all the time.

  • Joe Woods shold have been fired long ago. How do you have multiple blown coverages in one season that result in touchdowns?

  • N Neo

    Joe Woods shold have been fired long ago. How do you have multiple blown coverages in one season that result in touchdowns?

    @neo said:

    Joe Woods shold have been fired long ago. How do you have multiple blown coverages in one season that result in touchdowns?

    No it was the secondary years ago…the LBs the second year…the IDL this past year.  Nevermind he had 7 of the 8 top picks the past three years invested in defensive players.  We apparently didn’t give him enough. 
     

  • @neo said:

    Joe Woods shold have been fired long ago. How do you have multiple blown coverages in one season that result in touchdowns?

    No it was the secondary years ago…the LBs the second year…the IDL this past year.  Nevermind he had 7 of the 8 top picks the past three years invested in defensive players.  We apparently didn’t give him enough. 
     

    @sdbacker80 said:

    No it was the secondary years ago…the LBs the second year…the IDL this past year.  Nevermind he had 7 of the 8 top picks the past three years invested in defensive players.  We apparently didn’t give him enough. 
     

    Joe Woods was not a good Defensive Coordinator.

    But if the Browns trot out the caliber of DLine again next year, good luck to whoever lands the gig. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I could definitely see a scenario where the Browns sign Brian Flores as DC, he becomes the HC when Stefanski gets canned, and Depodesta and Berry hire their hand-picked pass-happy OC. When Flores was HC in Miami, apparently they tried to get Watson. 

    We've seen this play out before.  One year the DC gets it.  The next year it's the HC.  But I'm hoping against it as I kinda' like Stef and I'm sick of starting over all the time.

    @orion said:

    We've seen this play out before.  One year the DC gets it.  The next year it's the HC.  But I'm hoping against it as I kinda' like Stef and I'm sick of starting over all the time.

    I like Kevin Stefanski.

    I just don't believe in him as a head coach anymore. I hope I'm wrong, and the Browns put up a season again like they did in his first season. 

    And I won't pretend to say I know how the Dolphins performed on a game-to-game basis under Flores, but I do know that the Dolphins were absolutely set up to tank with him there, and he had that team playing their asses off and damn near finished .500.