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  • ballpeen ballpeenB Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    I thought this was a test question and we had to select which doesn't belong. 😉

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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      jesus H. christ who f'ing cares....

      What the hell is the point of comparing him to this, like its going to have any baring what-so-ever on what he becomes.

      Lets talk about something besides the QB for a change, OK?

      We'll see how he does this year, the answers are coming, so stop asking.

      We should be much more worried about the O line....

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        OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by OconRecon
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        If you believe Quinn deserves more time, than this thread is indeed pointless for you AdaM. No big deal.

        If you believe we should pull Quinn now, mad he "shit the bead", or bummed he didn't look better, then maybe this will give you some other thoughts.

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          If you believe Quinn deserves more time, than this thread is indeed pointless for you AdaM. No big deal.

          If you believe we should pull Quinn now, mad he "shit the bead", or bummed he didn't look better, then maybe this will give you some other thoughts.

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          @oconrecon said:

          If you believe Quinn deserves more time, than this thread is indeed pointless for you AdaM. No big deal.

          If you believe we should pull Quinn now, mad he "shit the bead", or bummed he didn't look better, then maybe this will give you some other thoughts.

          I'm definitely not in the 2nd camp. Not unless this is how he plays every game. And even then, its better than the pick-6's of old.

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            Chill Adam, this post was for the overreacting pussies who can't handle Browns football.

            2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8
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              If you believe Quinn deserves more time, than this thread is indeed pointless for you AdaM. No big deal.

              If you believe we should pull Quinn now, mad he "shit the bead", or bummed he didn't look better, then maybe this will give you some other thoughts.

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              @oconrecon said:

              If you believe Quinn deserves more time, than this thread is indeed pointless for you AdaM. No big deal.

              If you believe we should pull Quinn now, mad he "shit the bead", or bummed he didn't look better, then maybe this will give you some other thoughts.

              Ocon No logical Browns fans think Quinn should be pulled now, Lumbergh is NOT a browns fan.

              Quinn deserves at lease 5-7 more games period. the right side of the Oline is not his fault nor is the droppsies or recievers running different routes than what they are suppossed to.

              Quinn did take some shots down the field and had that nice scambling pass, that being said he seems to be checking down constantly to running backs and tight ends or 3 yard passes to recievers.

              Maybe thats not a bad thing maybe it is, we will see how multiple teams game plan defensively for us and IF he does not throw those 15-25 yard tight ropes that are absolutely necessary to keep defenses honest we will be in trouble as an offense and team. The defense I thought looked much improved in the first half but got wore down in the second, the offense needs to sustain drives to give them breathers.

              Now IF Quinn looks the same over the next 3-4 games the screams will get louder to put DA in and probably rightfully so.

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                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                I am not for pulling Quinn, at least anytime soon.

                If he keeps playing badly, I pull him before he hits his incentive mark and bench him the rest of the season..I would play the 3rd guy before I allowed his money to kick in.

                That will strap us next year or make it very hard to unload the guy in a trade...game 6-7 is the point you consider putting him on the shelf....well below that 70% of snaps mark.

                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                  GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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                  Its easy to get all out of whack over a percieved failure of an opening game against a top notch team with a new regime and starting qb....i always tend to overreact to a loss on opening day its one of those little things over the past 10 years that just eats at ya especially with the press and friends that are fans of other teams rubbing it in your face...

                  Mangini manned up and took a lot of the heat and thats good enough time to move on we have a long ways to go but bq will get us there eventually....😉

                  We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                    @oconrecon said:

                    If you believe Quinn deserves more time, than this thread is indeed pointless for you AdaM. No big deal.

                    If you believe we should pull Quinn now, mad he "shit the bead", or bummed he didn't look better, then maybe this will give you some other thoughts.

                    Ocon No logical Browns fans think Quinn should be pulled now, Lumbergh is NOT a browns fan.

                    Quinn deserves at lease 5-7 more games period. the right side of the Oline is not his fault nor is the droppsies or recievers running different routes than what they are suppossed to.

                    Quinn did take some shots down the field and had that nice scambling pass, that being said he seems to be checking down constantly to running backs and tight ends or 3 yard passes to recievers.

                    Maybe thats not a bad thing maybe it is, we will see how multiple teams game plan defensively for us and IF he does not throw those 15-25 yard tight ropes that are absolutely necessary to keep defenses honest we will be in trouble as an offense and team. The defense I thought looked much improved in the first half but got wore down in the second, the offense needs to sustain drives to give them breathers.

                    Now IF Quinn looks the same over the next 3-4 games the screams will get louder to put DA in and probably rightfully so.

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                    OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
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                    @osusev said:

                    Ocon No logical Browns fans think Quinn should be pulled now...

                    Agree. I'm still for seeing how he does until the bye week, but there is the business aspect to consider as 'peen points out. Improvement sooner rather than later is needed. Tough opponents can't be the excuse forever, in fact, I think he only gets that excuse last week. Now (over the first 6-8 games), its time to put up solid performances.

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      As I say....expect to win

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
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                        Zombo said:

                        Quinn has a very capable backup with a stronger arm and a 10-win Pro Bowl season on his resume.

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                        Not to hijack my own thread, but is anyone else surprised DA wasn't even mentioned regarding the Delhomme and McNabb situations? I guess Feeley is perceived to be better despite his lack of Pro Bowls and 10-win seasons. 😉

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                          I thought this was a test question and we had to select which doesn't belong. 😉

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                          ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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                          @ballpeen said:

                          I thought this was a test question and we had to select which doesn't belong. 😉

                          eli. both brady and peyton are on the same level. ok, maybe i exaggerated a little bit. brady is on a higher level.

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                            Zombo said:

                            Quinn has a very capable backup with a stronger arm and a 10-win Pro Bowl season on his resume.

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                            Not to hijack my own thread, but is anyone else surprised DA wasn't even mentioned regarding the Delhomme and McNabb situations? I guess Feeley is perceived to be better despite his lack of Pro Bowls and 10-win seasons. 😉

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                            ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                            @oconrecon said:

                            Not to hijack my own thread, but is anyone else surprised DA wasn't even mentioned regarding the Delhomme and McNabb situations? I guess Feeley is perceived to be better despite his lack of Pro Bowls and 10-win seasons. 😉

                            I'm not surprised, they look at the Cleveland Browns situation and realize that Anderson is needed here just as badly if not more-so than anywhere else.

                            Had Quinn stepped up last year, this off-season or training camp, or was even lights-out in Game 1 ... then DA might be view as expendable here. But today, he's as much as the near future of this team as the current starter.

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                              Zombo said:

                              Quinn has a very capable backup with a stronger arm and a 10-win Pro Bowl season on his resume.

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                              Not to hijack my own thread, but is anyone else surprised DA wasn't even mentioned regarding the Delhomme and McNabb situations? I guess Feeley is perceived to be better despite his lack of Pro Bowls and 10-win seasons. 😉

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                              M MoonlitKnight wrote on last edited by MoonlitKnight
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                              @oconrecon said:

                              Not to hijack my own thread, but is anyone else surprised DA wasn't even mentioned regarding the Delhomme and McNabb situations? I guess Feeley is perceived to be better despite his lack of Pro Bowls and 10-win seasons. 😉

                              hey Ocon, what you really want is for DA to be shipped outta town pronto, then your BF has less of a threat waiting on the bench to replace him..the Browns would be fools to get rid of DA now...you can make all the comparisons with other qb's ya want..it doesn't mean shit...all that means anything is the numbers in the win/lose column..Quinn reminded me a lot of Russel ,both have accuracy problems.

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                                Chill Adam, this post was for the overreacting pussies who can't handle Browns football.

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                                ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                                @pl4tinum said:

                                Chill Adam, this post was for the overreacting pussies who can't handle Browns football.

                                I obviously love this Browns football, I even upgraded my season tickets this season. I guess it would be more telling though to make an excuse for shitty play at least 8 posts per day.

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                                  OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by OconRecon
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                                  He needs to improve this week. Period. We all agree.

                                  I also agree we shouldn't move DA yet. I'm just surprised there has never been any talk of interest and inquiry. Perhaps you're right and its obvious that the Browns are still figuring things out.

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                                    PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend wrote on last edited by
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                                    Zombo..... Eli Manning sucked for 3 years before he started playing well at the very end of the season and in the playoffs when they won the superbowl.

                                    Eli gave 48 games of suckage before he started playing well, and your going to give Quinn only 10? Tell me how that makes sense? Quinn needs a few years of IN GAME experience to play well. We cant expect him to be a superstar right away.

                                    We have to let him learn from his mistakes for a season or two. Practice, sadly, is not the game. Completely different. Trent Edwards has been at times downright awful these past few seasons.... He was an all star last night...

                                    Quinn WILL be good, I say play him till it clicks Whether it takes 3 games or 3 years

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                                      Zombo..... Eli Manning sucked for 3 years before he started playing well at the very end of the season and in the playoffs when they won the superbowl.

                                      Eli gave 48 games of suckage before he started playing well, and your going to give Quinn only 10? Tell me how that makes sense? Quinn needs a few years of IN GAME experience to play well. We cant expect him to be a superstar right away.

                                      We have to let him learn from his mistakes for a season or two. Practice, sadly, is not the game. Completely different. Trent Edwards has been at times downright awful these past few seasons.... He was an all star last night...

                                      Quinn WILL be good, I say play him till it clicks Whether it takes 3 games or 3 years

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                                      ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                                      @playgroundlegend said:

                                      Zombo..... Eli Manning sucked for 3 years before he started playing well at the very end of the season and in the playoffs when they won the superbowl.

                                      Eli gave 48 games of suckage before he started playing well, and your going to give Quinn only 10? Tell me how that makes sense? Quinn needs a few years of IN GAME experience to play well. We cant expect him to be a superstar right away.

                                      We have to let him learn from his mistakes for a season or two. Practice, sadly, is not the game. Completely different. Trent Edwards has been at times downright awful these past few seasons.... He was an all star last night...

                                      Quinn WILL be good, I say play him till it clicks Whether it takes 3 games or 3 years

                                      That's a nice analogy ... now apply it to DA's situation without flip-flopping.

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                                        Zombo..... Eli Manning sucked for 3 years before he started playing well at the very end of the season and in the playoffs when they won the superbowl.

                                        Eli gave 48 games of suckage before he started playing well, and your going to give Quinn only 10? Tell me how that makes sense? Quinn needs a few years of IN GAME experience to play well. We cant expect him to be a superstar right away.

                                        We have to let him learn from his mistakes for a season or two. Practice, sadly, is not the game. Completely different. Trent Edwards has been at times downright awful these past few seasons.... He was an all star last night...

                                        Quinn WILL be good, I say play him till it clicks Whether it takes 3 games or 3 years

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                                        M MoonlitKnight wrote on last edited by MoonlitKnight
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                                        @playgroundlegend said:

                                        Zombo..... Eli Manning sucked for 3 years before he started playing well at the very end of the season and in the playoffs when they won the superbowl.

                                        Eli gave 48 games of suckage before he started playing well, and your going to give Quinn only 10? Tell me how that makes sense? Quinn needs a few years of IN GAME experience to play well. We cant expect him to be a superstar right away.

                                        We have to let him learn from his mistakes for a season or two. Practice, sadly, is not the game. Completely different. Trent Edwards has been at times downright awful these past few seasons.... He was an all star last night...

                                        Quinn WILL be good, I say play him till it clicks Whether it takes 3 games or 3 years

                                        Playground, you know the NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG don't ya?I have no idea how old you are, but I am old enough to remember when the Browns were FEARED..not anymore..ever since we have come back we have pretty much sucked...if you don't believe in the not for long theory ask Chris Palmer, ask Butch Davis, ask Romeo...ask the three OCs that were fired before this season even began.

                                        We don't have the TIME to wait for Quinn to blossom...we are a small market team, Unlike the Giants who had other stars on the team when Eli was drafted...you think Lerner has that kinda patience?It's a "what have you done for me LATELY" league...you think Mangini,who wants to keep his job,wants to walk into Randy's office and say.."Um Boss,I think Quinn needs another two years to blossom"? He'd be out of town in a heartbeat..

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                                          Zombo..... Eli Manning sucked for 3 years before he started playing well at the very end of the season and in the playoffs when they won the superbowl.

                                          Eli gave 48 games of suckage before he started playing well, and your going to give Quinn only 10? Tell me how that makes sense? Quinn needs a few years of IN GAME experience to play well. We cant expect him to be a superstar right away.

                                          We have to let him learn from his mistakes for a season or two. Practice, sadly, is not the game. Completely different. Trent Edwards has been at times downright awful these past few seasons.... He was an all star last night...

                                          Quinn WILL be good, I say play him till it clicks Whether it takes 3 games or 3 years

                                          That's a nice analogy ... now apply it to DA's situation without flip-flopping.

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                                          @atenears said:

                                          That's a nice analogy ... now apply it to DA's situation without flip-flopping.

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