2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects

Dutch Oven

CJ Stroud taking his sweet time declaring for the Draft.... hmmm.

gumby73

@dutch-oven said:

CJ Stroud taking his sweet time declaring for the Draft.... hmmm.

A stud WR named Marvin Harrison jr too.. Here's the most reliable updated I can see.. Might we see a late rush?

https://247sports.com/Article/2023-NFL-Draft-underclassmen-tracker-List-of-college-players-declaring-early-199180440/

edit a few still pending https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/nfl-draft-2023-should-these-top-undecided-underclassmen-go-pro

tiamat63

@gumby73 said:

A stud WR named Marvin Harrison jr too.. Here's the most reliable updated I can see.. Might we see a late rush?

https://247sports.com/Article/2023-NFL-Draft-underclassmen-tracker-List-of-college-players-declaring-early-199180440/

MHJ is a true sophomore.

gumby73

@tiamat63 said:

MHJ is a true sophomore.

Yep.. missed that..

don't think his Daddy permits it until Jr/Sr. year

Orion

We currently have just 1 pick in the top 100. And trading back from #43, what are you going to get? A 4th rounder? We kinda' gotta nail that pick.

Unsympathetic

@tiamat63 -- is Calijah Kancey on your list? OBR proposed him.

Undersized, but fireplug body shape wins with leverage. Comparisons to Sheldon Rankins make me curious.

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@unsympathetic said:

@tiamat63 -- is Calijah Kancey on your list? OBR proposed him.

Undersized, but fireplug body shape wins with leverage. Comparisons to Sheldon Rankins make me curious.

His named was tossed at me a few weeks ago. Naturally, because he plays for Pitt, I heard the "aArOn DoNaLd" in that conversation. Watched a couple games of his - vs WVU and Syracuse. Came away being a bit on the fence.

Like I said, because of his size and the university, there's going to be the "next AD" talk all damn day. To the point you're going to get sick of it, if you aren't already. There were a couple times I saw some good technique, but I came away asking if his pad level is also just a result of his height? Being around that 6'0 ft mark. His play strength is hit or miss as well.

Then there were other times where he reminded me of Xavier Cooper - fantastic first step burst, but would launch his body into a gap, cause a minor disruption on initial contact then lose gap integrity as the play developed.

The only reason Donald came into the league and found success wasn't that he had JUST elite burst, but almost unmatched technique for a 3 tech, let alone any rookie. He also just kept getting stronger his first couple years in the league.

I'm going to have to watch more to give you some final thoughts. But I do remember seeing Aaron as a senior play against Florida State in 2013 and single handedly wrecking most of their offensive designs. Both his natural ability and development as a player were obvious from the first snap. I didn't see that immediate "whoa" with Kancey. I'll dig deeper at some point and come back around to this. But it looks more of a - 'where should he be accurately valued?' since I believe his hype won't quite match his ability.

gumby73

I'm several quite/no hype individual game films into some prospects?

At pick #42..

imho..There might be only a few I'd consider a slight move up if there ?

DE-- ND Isaiah Foskey.. as low as pick #28

WR--USC Jordan Addison.. as low as pick #22

My highest rated IDL, is a mixed bag of what schemes prefer between

Baylor Siaki Ika & Michigan Mazi Smith.. both tip scales over 335 lbs. w/Schwartz big man inside speed

But, I've seen nothing that says pull the trigger on either before pick #42..

I'd prefer the future body frame & hand usage of edge Will McDonald or DT Byron Young over Cal Kansey/ say 3rd round.. but it's close.. I've seen ACC games/with C. Kancey metrics of 6' 280 lbs.. at NFL DT ? His combine metrics should clean some of this up..

Starting my last two days away from work viewing some LB vs Safety class.. but not before Lunch time !

16 days & 2 hours before Senior Bowl... I'm thinking of making my 1st bucket-list trip ?

SdBacker80

Stetson Bennett with a day 3 pick?

Dutch Oven

@sdbacker80 said:

Stetson Bennett with a day 3 pick?

Um, no.

We just got rid of an undersized cocky walk-on QB with "moxie".

?

Plus, there would be the inevitable WSS crush on a Browns QB, because he kind of is his type. ?

gumby73

@dutch-oven said:

Here's how the Browns picks sit now with the regular season over:

Second Round

Pick #43

Third Round

Compensatory pick not yet assigned between picks 97 and 102

Fourth Round

Pick #111

Pick #131 - From Minnesota

Fifth Round

Pick #141 - From Los Angeles Rams

Pick #143

Why yes ? I have started my nerdy/geek out Draft Pick sims games...

That pick #97.. is like waiting forever from pick #42.. with good needs/names coming off the fake board..

I already like the names I'm grabbing.. Moving up to pick 70'ish.. giving up one 4th & one 5th.. that are almost together..

We don't have a 4th in 2024.. but, Berry might find one.. This draft is also loaded with some good CB's.. We may find a Slot Corner not named Newsome/Greedy?

edit-- all these silly mocks I see.. and nobody thinks we need a TE2/3?

Dutch Oven

@gumby73 said:

edit-- all these silly mocks I see.. and nobody thinks we need a TE2/3?

Someone should, there's a reason I posted the top TEs early on in this thread.

Position is pretty thin, and I don't see the Browns going balls out to re-sign Harrison Bryant

ballpeen

@dutch-oven said:

Someone should, there's a reason I posted the top TEs early on in this thread.

Position is pretty thin, and I don't see the Browns going balls out to re-sign Harrison Bryant

Possibly so, but TE might be last on the list of needs. If we had the guns, I could see us not playing with a TE for a good portion of plays.

Dutch Oven

@ballpeen said:

Possibly so, but TE might be last on the list of needs. If we had the guns, I could see us not playing with a TE for a good portion of plays.

Harrison Bryant is on his last season of his rookie contract, and his future with the Browns is questionable after next season.

Which would pretty much leave Njoku as the only TE on the roster at that point I'm not saying they are going to take a TE with their top pick, but it should be considered somewhere in the eight picks they have.

mjp28

This is what is going to determine what the 2023 Cleveland BROWNS are going to look like (subject to trades and trade ups :

First Round (0)

Second Round (1) - Pick #43

Third Round (1) - Compensatory pick between picks 97 and 102

Fourth Round (2) - Pick #111 Pick #131 - From Minnesota

Fifth Round (2) - Pick #141 - From Los Angeles Rams, Pick #143

Sixth Round (1) - Pick #189

Seventh Round (1) - Pick #231

ballpeen

@dutch-oven said:

Harrison Bryant is on his last season of his rookie contract, and his future with the Browns is questionable after next season.

Which would pretty much leave Njoku as the only TE on the roster at that point I'm not saying they are going to take a TE with their top pick, but it should be considered somewhere in the eight picks they have.

Thanks for the clarification.

First, as for Bryant, he is good enough for now. And who knows, maybe we extent him, but I doubt it. Berry does work ahead in drafts, so we might draft one.

I just see TE being a weapon to use, but i think we will just look towards free agents or undrafted guys. I don't see us keeping many TE's moving forward. I see it a rare occasion we will ever play two of them at the same time.

Look at last year, when we wanted "blocking", we had already dumped the blocking TE's and we just had a tackle report as eligible.

I think people don't understand that the O is going to morph....or at least it better do so to accomodate Watson. We aren't going to use multiple TE sets IMO and TE is going to be a position of low importance as we move forward. I don't see any real push to draft a TE until we are a year away from Njoku's final year.

ballpeen

@mjp28 said:

This is what is going to determine what the 2023 Cleveland BROWNS are going to look like (subject to trades and trade ups :

First Round (0)

Second Round (1) - Pick #43

Third Round (1) - Compensatory pick between picks 97 and 102

Fourth Round (2) - Pick #111 Pick #131 - From Minnesota

Fifth Round (2) - Pick #141 - From Los Angeles Rams, Pick #143

Sixth Round (1) - Pick #189

Seventh Round (1) - Pick #231

No doubt a important draft. In the world of high priced QB's, a world in which he haven't been, we have to make the picks count. Somewhere in those 8 picks we have to pluck 2 starting type players and probably at least 1 solid contributor. It will be harder this year because a 1st rounder is almost always going to be at minimum a solid contributor. You have to have some of those rookie contracts on your team to keep inside the cap, and when i say that i mean they have to be decent and not kept simply because you have to keep them around.

It can be done. Rounds 2-5 are still good rounds for many positions.

Orion

@ballpeen said:

I don't see us keeping many TE's moving forward. I see it a rare occasion we will ever play two of them at the same time.

I understand how DePodesta isn't interested in four yard runs and wants 13 yard passes..........but he picked Stef. He's the one that wanted Stef the year earlier but Dorsey went with the Bill-Hilly. And that was what Stef was known for....his two TE stretch blocking offense. I actually expect a TE to be drafted with one of our latter picks. I don't think they're flabbergasted with Bryant. I know that I'm not...being a Mackie winner

Dutch Oven

@orion said:

I understand how DePodesta isn't interested in four yard runs and wants 13 yard passes..........but he picked Stef. He's the one that wanted Stef the year earlier but Dorsey went with the Bill-Hilly. And that was what Stef was known for....his two TE stretch blocking offense. I actually expect a TE to be drafted with one of our latter picks. I don't think they're flabbergasted with Bryant. I know that I'm not...being a Mackie winner

He's been a decent if not underwhelming player, but eventually the Browns are going to have to let some of their draft picks leave after their rookie contracts are up, and to me Bryant could very well be that type of guy that is allowed to leave and is replaced by a cheaper rookie. They can't give contract extensions to everyone.

Dutch Oven

I'm going to throw something out there...

Nick Chubb just completed his fifth NFL season, and will be 28 years old next season.

What would a team have to offer the Browns for you to trade him?