22$ at Mickey D's
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Early seventies. But relative to average pay the guys that worked on the dock and were Union members were making like 30 bucks an hour.
At the time I think They got time and a half for Sunday and 3 times that for holidays.
Every Union duck worker was there Easter Sunday And not a single truck came or went. Pretty funny
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Fyi, $2.65 in 1972, what you said was minimum wage, is equivalent to $19.14 today according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Fyi, $2.65 in 1972, what you said was minimum wage, is equivalent to $19.14 today according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.
I may have misspoken 265 was the min wage in 1978.
'71 -'72 Looks like it was 2 bucks.
And look at the spread between minimum wage and the Union dock workers.
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Fyi, $2.65 in 1972, what you said was minimum wage, is equivalent to $19.14 today according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.
I may have misspoken 265 was the min wage in 1978.
'71 -'72 Looks like it was 2 bucks.
And look at the spread between minimum wage and the Union dock workers.
WSS
I may have misspoken 265 was the metam wage in 1978.
'71 -'72 Looks like it was 2 bucks.
And look at the spread between minimum wage and the Union dock workers.
WSS
$2 in 1971 is the same as $14.91 today
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There were custodians at the Parma Chevy Plant who made close to 100g working over time.
Absolutely. When I was younger I worked at CF for a very short period of time as one of the janitor staff. Not Union we made minimum wage $2.65. There are 1 guy who was a Union guy made real Union money, really nice guy but the laziest motherfucker I ever met. Worse than me if you can believe it.
WSS
Absolutely. When I was younger I worked at CF for a very short period of time as one of the janitor staff. Not Union we made minimum wage $2.65. There are 1 guy who was a Union guy made real Union money, really nice guy but the laziest motherfucker I ever met. Worse than me if you can believe it.
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Don't get me started there Steve... I put in a short stint at Republic Steel.. My Mom's cousin as a crane operator there was pulling down more dough than our Plant Manager next door at Reilly Chemical....
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- Licking the boots of billionaires
- Being anti education
bark doggy, bark
don't worry, they'll invent another culture war issue to distract you
Look who’s drunk posting again, are you and Larry bending elbows together?
Look who’s drunk posting again, are you and Larry bending elbows together?
I'd expect nothing less from the right wing echo chamber that can't back off from insults and ad hominum attacks... It's what you guys do here... Even when I try to be 1\2 civil....
Hey, Trump looks like he's traded in his spray on tan for A-1 sauce at his rallies lately, in case you haven't noticed.
Yeah- I do keep track of Demented, or is it Delusional Don for kicks and giggles. Still drinking his Kool-Aid? 
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I may have misspoken 265 was the metam wage in 1978.
'71 -'72 Looks like it was 2 bucks.
And look at the spread between minimum wage and the Union dock workers.
WSS
$2 in 1971 is the same as $14.91 today
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OK, so?
WSS
Well, when you have to pay your employees $15 bucks an hour welcome to $5 buck Big Macs. It is what it is....
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OK, so?
WSS
Well, when you have to pay your employees $15 bucks an hour welcome to $5 buck Big Macs. It is what it is....
Well, when you have to pay your employees $15 bucks an hour welcome to $5 buck Big Macs. It is what it is....
Oh well I'll wait, an incompetent fucker is lazy and incompetent whether he or she is getting 5 10 15 or 50 bucks an hour. Same deal with the conscientious employee.
Automation will take over. Young people would rather sit on their ass anyway.
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Well, when you have to pay your employees $15 bucks an hour welcome to $5 buck Big Macs. It is what it is....
Oh well I'll wait, an incompetent fucker is lazy and incompetent whether he or she is getting 5 10 15 or 50 bucks an hour. Same deal with the conscientious employee.
Automation will take over. Young people would rather sit on their ass anyway.
WSS
Oh well I'll wait a incompetent fucker is lazy and a competent whether he or she is getting 5 10 15 or 50 bucks an hour. Same deal with the conscientious employee.
Automation will take over. Young people would rather sit on their ass anyway.
WSS
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OK, so?
WSS
Some perspective
The minimum wage you made earlier in your life is equivalent to a $15 minimum wage now....
I know your memory starts to go as you age but a little perspective around inflation (and hypocrisy) can't hurt
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OK, so?
WSS
Some perspective
The minimum wage you made earlier in your life is equivalent to a $15 minimum wage now....
I know your memory starts to go as you age but a little perspective around inflation (and hypocrisy) can't hurt
Some perspective
The minimum wage you made earlier in your life is equivalent to a $15 minimum wage now....
I know your memory starts to go as you age but a little perspective around inflation (and hypocrisy) can't hurt
So mid seventies instead of early seventies. Sorry. But It probably underscores my point by mentioning that I got fired for sleeping on the job.
But despite your petty insults, which seems to be all you have these days, I repeat, I don't think there should even be a minimum wage. Sooner or later we'll automate the jobs that monkeys can do. And you're the guy that pretends that having education makes you a better human being I did point out that the dark workers were making 30 bucks an hour compared to that 2.65.. I doubt that a lot of of those guys could read. And again I don't think we need a minimum wage at all, so there. I guess people really can get used to living at a substitute level. I know quite a few that do.
Living in bubbles submitting to government control Sitting around for days at a time in a dirty bathrobes while working from home, if working at all, not socializing with other human beings except when you go out rioting and looting… Cite whatever dystopian science fiction you care to.
It honestly doesn't look to me like society is getting better. But you will get your wish soon enough I'd be surprised if I have more than 10 or so years to go.
WSS
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Well, when you have to pay your employees $15 bucks an hour welcome to $5 buck Big Macs. It is what it is....
Oh well I'll wait, an incompetent fucker is lazy and incompetent whether he or she is getting 5 10 15 or 50 bucks an hour. Same deal with the conscientious employee.
Automation will take over. Young people would rather sit on their ass anyway.
WSS
Oh well I'll wait a incompetent fucker is lazy and a competent whether he or she is getting 5 10 15 or 50 bucks an hour. Same deal with the conscientious employee.
Automation will take over. Young people would rather sit on their ass anyway.
WSS
Steve, I think what Woody is referring to is the fact that, compared to your generation, Millennials and GenZ's money has much less purchasing power:
Comparing the costs of generations
Simply speaking, the Boomer generation grew up in a rare moment in history where their dollar's purchasing power was relatively high and the cost of goods was relatively low. It's not necessarily that Millennials/GenX are lazier than previous generations, it's that due to the dollar's diminished purchasing power and much more inflated prices for things such as housing, higher education, fuel, etc, we have to work twice as hard to get half as much.
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
Oh well I'll wait a incompetent fucker is lazy and a competent whether he or she is getting 5 10 15 or 50 bucks an hour. Same deal with the conscientious employee.
Automation will take over. Young people would rather sit on their ass anyway.
WSS
Steve, I think what Woody is referring to is the fact that, compared to your generation, Millennials and GenZ's money has much less purchasing power:
Comparing the costs of generations
Simply speaking, the Boomer generation grew up in a rare moment in history where their dollar's purchasing power was relatively high and the cost of goods was relatively low. It's not necessarily that Millennials/GenX are lazier than previous generations, it's that due to the dollar's diminished purchasing power and much more inflated prices for things such as housing, higher education, fuel, etc, we have to work twice as hard to get half as much.
Steve, I think what Woody is referring to is the fact that, compared to your generation, Millennials and GenZ's money has much less purchasing power:
Comparing the costs of generations
Simply speaking, the Boomer generation grew up in a rare moment in history where their dollar's purchasing power was relatively high and the cost of goods was relatively low. It's not necessarily that Millennials/GenX are lazier than previous generations, it's that due to the dollar's diminished purchasing power and much more inflated prices for things such as housing, higher education, fuel, etc, we have to work twice as hard to get half as much.
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Oh well I'll wait a incompetent fucker is lazy and a competent whether he or she is getting 5 10 15 or 50 bucks an hour. Same deal with the conscientious employee.
Automation will take over. Young people would rather sit on their ass anyway.
WSS
Steve, I think what Woody is referring to is the fact that, compared to your generation, Millennials and GenZ's money has much less purchasing power:
Comparing the costs of generations
Simply speaking, the Boomer generation grew up in a rare moment in history where their dollar's purchasing power was relatively high and the cost of goods was relatively low. It's not necessarily that Millennials/GenX are lazier than previous generations, it's that due to the dollar's diminished purchasing power and much more inflated prices for things such as housing, higher education, fuel, etc, we have to work twice as hard to get half as much.
Steve, I think what Woody is referring to is the fact that, compared to your generation, Millennials and GenZ's money has much less purchasing power:
Comparing the costs of generations
Simply speaking, the Boomer generation grew up in a rare moment in history where their dollar's purchasing power was relatively high and the cost of goods was relatively low. It's not necessarily that Millennials/GenX are lazier than previous generations, it's that due to the dollar's diminished purchasing power and much more inflated prices for things such as housing, higher education, fuel, etc, we have to work twice as hard to get half as much.
Exactly. But they'll never actually admit it or even try to look into it.
They pulled themselves up by their bootstraps! They're real American men! Everything today is bad and wrong and it's the fault of people that don't look like them or believe in the same things as them!
And we're left to pick up the pieces
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I was hired by Winn Dixie (Grocery chain) in 1973 for $1.85 an hr. That apparently translates to $12.37 an hr today. https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1973?amount=1.85
I had no Social Security card when they hired me. They couldn't pay me without one.. I had to apply for one via snail mail as was the sign of the times. It took 6 weeks to acquire one. The management of the store I worked at couldn't believe that I kept coming back and working week after week without pay.....
After 6 weeks I got my SS card and I received 6 checks worth $35-$40 each.. All at once!! I thought I was Daddy Effin Warbucks.. ? I worked for 6 weeks for nothing based upon a promise. That was the work ethic installed in me growing up.. I don't see anything resembling that in today's youth. I haven't seen it in a long time and I say that as a man that owned multiple businesses over the last 30 yrs..
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I was hired by Winn Dixie (Grocery chain) in 1973 for $1.85 an hr. That apparently translates to $12.37 an hr today. https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1973?amount=1.85
I had no Social Security card when they hired me. They couldn't pay me without one.. I had to apply for one via snail mail as was the sign of the times. It took 6 weeks to acquire one. The management of the store I worked at couldn't believe that I kept coming back and working week after week without pay.....
After 6 weeks I got my SS card and I received 6 checks worth $35-$40 each.. All at once!! I thought I was Daddy Effin Warbucks.. ? I worked for 6 weeks for nothing based upon a promise. That was the work ethic installed in me growing up.. I don't see anything resembling that in today's youth. I haven't seen it in a long time and I say that as a man that owned multiple businesses over the last 30 yrs..
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maybe i got lucky I am not sure if i was a good parent or not but both of my boys in their early 20's have careers and are kicking ass , as most of their friends so do not group them all together
Quiet now. It is easier to just blame all the younger generation for everything that is wrong.
No way the boomers will turn the mirror on themselves... that's for damn sure.
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maybe i got lucky I am not sure if i was a good parent or not but both of my boys in their early 20's have careers and are kicking ass , as most of their friends so do not group them all together
Quiet now. It is easier to just blame all the younger generation for everything that is wrong.
No way the boomers will turn the mirror on themselves... that's for damn sure.
Quiet now. It is easier to just blame all the younger generation for everything that is wrong.
No way the boomers will turn the mirror on themselves... that's for damn sure.
it's funny but true and he was is a awesome kid plays for the Celtics
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maybe i got lucky I am not sure if i was a good parent or not but both of my boys in their early 20's have careers and are kicking ass , as most of their friends so do not group them all together
Quiet now. It is easier to just blame all the younger generation for everything that is wrong.
No way the boomers will turn the mirror on themselves... that's for damn sure.
Quiet now. It is easier to just blame all the younger generation for everything that is wrong.
No way the boomers will turn the mirror on themselves... that's for damn sure.
Well that's probably true but not for the reason you think. The greatest generation pampered the baby boomers by trying to give them more than they grew up having which in turn made Boomer's less self sufficient than they might have been.. Unfortunately that pattern has been in a downward spiral for a few generations.
And the free shit express is like a downhill juggernaut. These days honey buddy making around 20K gets a mountain of free stuff.
At even though you believe history began 25 years ago you can look back over the generations and see just for example the size of the houses and the number of family members that resided in them has opposed to today.
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(In general)
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Quiet now. It is easier to just blame all the younger generation for everything that is wrong.
No way the boomers will turn the mirror on themselves... that's for damn sure.
Well that's probably true but not for the reason you think. The greatest generation pampered the baby boomers by trying to give them more than they grew up having which in turn made Boomer's less self sufficient than they might have been.. Unfortunately that pattern has been in a downward spiral for a few generations.
And the free shit express is like a downhill juggernaut. These days honey buddy making around 20K gets a mountain of free stuff.
At even though you believe history began 25 years ago you can look back over the generations and see just for example the size of the houses and the number of family members that resided in them has opposed to today.
WSS
(In general)
Well that's probably true but not for the reason you think. The greatest generation pampered the baby boomers by trying to give them more than they grew up having which in turn made Boomer's less self sufficient than they might have been.. Unfortunately that pattern has been in a downward spiral for a few generations.
And the free shit express is like a downhill juggernaut. These days honey buddy making around 20K gets a mountain of free stuff.
At even though you believe history began 25 years ago you can look back over the generations and see just for example the size of the houses and the number of family members that resided in them has opposed to today.
WSS
(In general)
Millennials' ability, ambition comes into question following new polls: 'Go out and get a job'
New polls find that many millennials rely on their parents to pay billshttps://www.foxnews.com/media/millennials-ability-ambition-comes-into-question-following-new-polls
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