Hall of Fame - Joe Thomas
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It still is baffling to me that the Browns just died in 2008 after such a good 2007.
I think Crennel was a decent coach, maybe not a great motivator.
Yes and No - the most important position on the field We had Quinn, McCoy and Weeden that followed on rosters that weren’t too shabby and given a line to protect them. We were rescued a bit when Lil Shanny gave us a little hope early in 2014.
You can’t repeatedly F up the QB position we are a prime example and case study of having an all world blind side protector and it means Jack when they are protecting crap.
Yes and No - the most important position on the field We had Quinn, McCoy and Weeden that followed on rosters that weren’t too shabby and given a line to protect them. We were rescued a bit when Lil Shanny gave us a little hope early in 2014.
You can’t repeatedly F up the QB position we are a prime example and case study of having an all world blind side protector and it means Jack when they are protecting crap.
Plus Derek Anderson's sizzle faded away & Braylon Edwards forgot how to catch a ball.
2008-2017 had to be the worst 10 year run in franchise history. Unreal how awful it was.
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Yes and No - the most important position on the field We had Quinn, McCoy and Weeden that followed on rosters that weren’t too shabby and given a line to protect them. We were rescued a bit when Lil Shanny gave us a little hope early in 2014.
You can’t repeatedly F up the QB position we are a prime example and case study of having an all world blind side protector and it means Jack when they are protecting crap.
Plus Derek Anderson's sizzle faded away & Braylon Edwards forgot how to catch a ball.
2008-2017 had to be the worst 10 year run in franchise history. Unreal how awful it was.
Plus Derek Anderson's sizzle faded away & Braylon Edwards forgot how to catch a ball.
2008-2017 had to be the worst 10 year run in franchise history. Unreal how awful it was.
Derek Anderson's season was made possible for several big reasons.
- The investment and overnight improvement of the Browns Oline
- The playcalling and coaching of Chudinzski
- The (limited) health and ability of KW2 as the modern "move" TE/H/Y.
- Having a saavy vet like Jerevicious who could bail out Anderson's lack of ability to process defenses.
- The one year resurgence of Jamal Lewis and the running game.
Edwards had a high drop percentage at Michigan and I remember hating that pick. Him falling off was only a matter of time. Definition of a one hit wonder. Combine that with the fall off from the Ravens play thanks to Kyle Boller, and having DB's allergic to tackling... the Browns were prime for regression in the 2008 season.
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Plus Derek Anderson's sizzle faded away & Braylon Edwards forgot how to catch a ball.
2008-2017 had to be the worst 10 year run in franchise history. Unreal how awful it was.
Derek Anderson's season was made possible for several big reasons.
- The investment and overnight improvement of the Browns Oline
- The playcalling and coaching of Chudinzski
- The (limited) health and ability of KW2 as the modern "move" TE/H/Y.
- Having a saavy vet like Jerevicious who could bail out Anderson's lack of ability to process defenses.
- The one year resurgence of Jamal Lewis and the running game.
Edwards had a high drop percentage at Michigan and I remember hating that pick. Him falling off was only a matter of time. Definition of a one hit wonder. Combine that with the fall off from the Ravens play thanks to Kyle Boller, and having DB's allergic to tackling... the Browns were prime for regression in the 2008 season.
Derek Anderson's season was made possible for several big reasons.
- The investment and overnight improvement of the Browns Oline
- The playcalling and coaching of Chudinzski
- The (limited) health and ability of KW2 as the modern "move" TE/H/Y.
- Having a saavy vet like Jerevicious who could bail out Anderson's lack of ability to process defenses.
- The one year resurgence of Jamal Lewis and the running game.
Edwards had a high drop percentage at Michigan and I remember hating that pick. Him falling off was only a matter of time. Definition of a one hit wonder. Combine that with the fall off from the Ravens play thanks to Kyle Boller, and having DB's allergic to tackling... the Browns were prime for regression in the 2008 season.
Well said! Damn, I forgot to include Joe Jurevicius. Anyway, we had a pretty well balanced offense in Joe's rookie year 2007. Derek Anderson's Cinderella season had an early midnight though (once enough teams got him on film). Still, we'd do anything today to get 29 TD passes out of a QB here in just 15 starts. Then again, we'd also do anything to have Joe Thomas protecting the blind side of QB again. On the other hand, the 19 INTs with most of them coming after the early midnight didn't keep the fanbase confident in him. He went from CInderella to Ricky Ankiel on the mound. Ankiel was a very promising young MLB pitcher that inexplicably completely lost his art and ability to throw strikes as well as the volume of pitches he previously excelled with. Anyway, 2007 was the ONLY season Braylon Edwards played like the WR we hoped we drafted. How many times have we seen a starting WR here catch 16 TD passes?
You're not kidding about 2008 though. It was a bad alarm clock waking this team up and reminding them they were supposed to lose.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Plus Derek Anderson's sizzle faded away & Braylon Edwards forgot how to catch a ball.
2008-2017 had to be the worst 10 year run in franchise history. Unreal how awful it was.
Derek Anderson's season was made possible for several big reasons.
- The investment and overnight improvement of the Browns Oline
- The playcalling and coaching of Chudinzski
- The (limited) health and ability of KW2 as the modern "move" TE/H/Y.
- Having a saavy vet like Jerevicious who could bail out Anderson's lack of ability to process defenses.
- The one year resurgence of Jamal Lewis and the running game.
Edwards had a high drop percentage at Michigan and I remember hating that pick. Him falling off was only a matter of time. Definition of a one hit wonder. Combine that with the fall off from the Ravens play thanks to Kyle Boller, and having DB's allergic to tackling... the Browns were prime for regression in the 2008 season.
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“She told me, ‘Honey, go put some pants on,’” Thomas said. ?
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“She told me, ‘Honey, go put some pants on,’” Thomas said. ?
“She told me, ‘Honey, go put some pants on,’” Thomas said. ?
" I remember " reading back when super Joe was finally out of the NFL life ... for good .... he had do drop down off of his 10,000+ calorie daily diet and everything that he used to eat a day to maintain that 300+ pound NFL OL lineman required body.
What a diet starting with the eggs then milkshakes and other goodies along with the required workouts to maintain his required fighting form to play. And he did it well. I remember seeing him long after that and the "new Joe" look wow what a change.
Congratulations Joe the newest Cleveland BROWNS HOF member.
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Anybody surprised?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Derek Anderson's season was made possible for several big reasons.
- The investment and overnight improvement of the Browns Oline
- The playcalling and coaching of Chudinzski
- The (limited) health and ability of KW2 as the modern "move" TE/H/Y.
- Having a saavy vet like Jerevicious who could bail out Anderson's lack of ability to process defenses.
- The one year resurgence of Jamal Lewis and the running game.
Edwards had a high drop percentage at Michigan and I remember hating that pick. Him falling off was only a matter of time. Definition of a one hit wonder. Combine that with the fall off from the Ravens play thanks to Kyle Boller, and having DB's allergic to tackling... the Browns were prime for regression in the 2008 season.
Well said! Damn, I forgot to include Joe Jurevicius. Anyway, we had a pretty well balanced offense in Joe's rookie year 2007. Derek Anderson's Cinderella season had an early midnight though (once enough teams got him on film). Still, we'd do anything today to get 29 TD passes out of a QB here in just 15 starts. Then again, we'd also do anything to have Joe Thomas protecting the blind side of QB again. On the other hand, the 19 INTs with most of them coming after the early midnight didn't keep the fanbase confident in him. He went from CInderella to Ricky Ankiel on the mound. Ankiel was a very promising young MLB pitcher that inexplicably completely lost his art and ability to throw strikes as well as the volume of pitches he previously excelled with. Anyway, 2007 was the ONLY season Braylon Edwards played like the WR we hoped we drafted. How many times have we seen a starting WR here catch 16 TD passes?
You're not kidding about 2008 though. It was a bad alarm clock waking this team up and reminding them they were supposed to lose.
Well said! Damn, I forgot to include Joe Jurevicius. Anyway, we had a pretty well balanced offense in Joe's rookie year 2007. Derek Anderson's Cinderella season had an early midnight though (once enough teams got him on film). Still, we'd do anything today to get 29 TD passes out of a QB here in just 15 starts. Then again, we'd also do anything to have Joe Thomas protecting the blind side of QB again. On the other hand, the 19 INTs with most of them coming after the early midnight didn't keep the fanbase confident in him. He went from CInderella to Ricky Ankiel on the mound. Ankiel was a very promising young MLB pitcher that inexplicably completely lost his art and ability to throw strikes as well as the volume of pitches he previously excelled with. Anyway, 2007 was the ONLY season Braylon Edwards played like the WR we hoped we drafted. How many times have we seen a starting WR here catch 16 TD passes?
You're not kidding about 2008 though. It was a bad alarm clock waking this team up and reminding them they were supposed to lose.
Plus also factor in Norv Turner was his OC and Norv does not employ an audible system in his offence there by minimizing Anderceptions responsibilities and sticking to the script.
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Well said! Damn, I forgot to include Joe Jurevicius. Anyway, we had a pretty well balanced offense in Joe's rookie year 2007. Derek Anderson's Cinderella season had an early midnight though (once enough teams got him on film). Still, we'd do anything today to get 29 TD passes out of a QB here in just 15 starts. Then again, we'd also do anything to have Joe Thomas protecting the blind side of QB again. On the other hand, the 19 INTs with most of them coming after the early midnight didn't keep the fanbase confident in him. He went from CInderella to Ricky Ankiel on the mound. Ankiel was a very promising young MLB pitcher that inexplicably completely lost his art and ability to throw strikes as well as the volume of pitches he previously excelled with. Anyway, 2007 was the ONLY season Braylon Edwards played like the WR we hoped we drafted. How many times have we seen a starting WR here catch 16 TD passes?
You're not kidding about 2008 though. It was a bad alarm clock waking this team up and reminding them they were supposed to lose.
Plus also factor in Norv Turner was his OC and Norv does not employ an audible system in his offence there by minimizing Anderceptions responsibilities and sticking to the script.
Plus also factor in Norv Turner was his OC and Norv does not employ an audible system in his offence there by minimizing Anderceptions responsibilities and sticking to the script.
Yeah, too bad he couldn't have made most of the split-second decisions for DA once he started slumping/losing confidence. I'll never forget how much the Frat Boy from Oregon State (Lumberg) adored DA. That led to a lot of hilarious and outrageous threads. Just to get him going sometimes I'd remind him that DA was the acro for Dumb Ass. One time he replied with a picture of Brady Quinn in a pink thong asking me if I wanted to join Shep's Queer-Eye for the wrong guy club (that he later re-named Quinn Fags). Lumberg would have been a fun guy to drink beer with before he started stalking Bills Mafia message boards.
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I went back and looked at all the quarterbacks that played during Joe's tenure with the Browns from 2007-2017. All I could say is: "My god." It's like a who's who of draft busts, washed up QB's, and no-names.
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1) 2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1) 2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7) 2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4) 2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3) 2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1) 2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3) 2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1) 2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2) 2016 Cody Kessler (8) / Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3) 2017 DeShone Kizer (15) / Kevin Hogan (1) I went back and looked at all the quarterbacks that played during Joe's tenure with the Browns from 2007-2017. All I could say is: "My god." It's like a who's who of draft busts, washed up QB's, and no-names.
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1) 2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1) 2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7) 2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4) 2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3) 2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1) 2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3) 2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1) 2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2) 2016 Cody Kessler (8) / Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3) 2017 DeShone Kizer (15) / Kevin Hogan (1) Appreciate the research Bernie! The only 2 successful QBs this franchise has drafted since getting Mike Phipps REALLY wrong in 1970 were - 13th round pick Brian Sipe (San Diego State) in 1972 and Supplemental 1st round pick Bernie Kosar (University of Miami) in 1985. Getting Sipe right even if by accident, gave us the only NFL MVP this fanbase has been able to watch in the Super Bowl and Color Television era. Getting a National Champion like Bernie Kosar also very exciting. It only made sense that Sipe passed the Kardiac Kids torch onto Kosar. It also only made sense that these are the 2 favorite QBs of my lifetime. LOVED these guys!!!!
Not being able to draft any keepers at QB since then is the reason the Browns remain the only team in their division not to appear in 1 Super Bowl. There's been a TON of great QBs the FOs for this franchise didn't draft with every excuse except admitting they aren't the right FO Execs for Cleveland. Today, we have a 230 million $ QB that we looked down our nose at back when he would have only cost us one 1st round pick. Evidently, he wasn't appealing until it was obvious he was going to be suspended. All we can do now is hope it works.
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Anybody surprised? Really ? Well ....
Surprised no -but- a bit apprehensive until the final vote actually came out and was posted.
JOE THOMAS OG CLEVELAND BROWNS in his first year of eligibility in the * NFL HALL of FAME *
Thank goodness and so welcomed by the Cleveland BROWNS football fans everywhere.
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I went back and looked at all the quarterbacks that played during Joe's tenure with the Browns from 2007-2017. All I could say is: "My god." It's like a who's who of draft busts, washed up QB's, and no-names.
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1) 2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1) 2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7) 2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4) 2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3) 2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1) 2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3) 2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1) 2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2) 2016 Cody Kessler (8) / Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3) 2017 DeShone Kizer (15) / Kevin Hogan (1) I went back and looked at all the quarterbacks that played during Joe's tenure with the Browns from 2007-2017. All I could say is: "My god." It's like a who's who of draft busts, washed up QB's, and no-names.
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1) 2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1) 2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7) 2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4) 2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3) 2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1) 2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3) 2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1) 2015 Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2) 2016 Cody Kessler (8) / Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3) 2017 DeShone Kizer (15) / Kevin Hogan (1) Oh boy, good work, although I'm getting flashbacks of Seneca Wallace & Pat UnShurmer letting the clock run out in the first half at Baltimore on Christmas Eve.....with 3 timeouts and 1st & goal at the 7 yard line?
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CLEVELAND, Ohio – Tickets for this year’s enshrinement ceremony at the Pro Football Hall of Fame go on sale 10 a.m. Friday, Feb. 24th
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