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  • I'd like to place an order for a tall, fast WR please.........and a Michael Dean Perry.   And I have a drive thru code.  

  • 2016 FO took Corey Coleman and Emmanuel Ogbah both over osu's Michael Thomas and Miss St's Chris Jones.  Good times.

    @unsympathetic said:

    2016 FO took Corey Coleman and Emmanuel Ogbah both over osu's Michael Thomas and Miss St's Chris Jones.  Good times.

    You left out both over Bama's terror RB Derrick Henry. I ain't never lettin' that go!?

  • Have started to look at the FA class, because other BBoard members have pointed out that it is uncommon for a rookie IDL to make an immediate impact, and we sure as heck need an improvement there. Spotrac has a nifty overview for those interested. 

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

    Turns out getting an improvement over Taven Bryan, who has a projected market value of 6.6 M, is going to be a challenge to say the least. Shy of the Browns entering the Da'Ron Payne sweepstakes that is, but I don't see us forking out 19 M given our tight cap space. Dalvin Tomlinson at 8.5 M seems one of very few other options of getting an improvement at an acceptable price.

    Maybe using our second rounder on IDL, and getting a more affordable rotation guy in free agency would be a better bet?

  • Tomlinson was one of the few bright spots on the Vikings defensive season.  I wouldn't be opposed to testing the waters for either him or Greg Gaines.  

     Too late to bring Andrew Billings back? ?

  • @orion said:

    I never understood why we didn't use Landry in that roll.  And for now I'd like to see them try Bell at it.  You need a certain spunk in that position.....but I'm not sure that Bell has it.

    Bell can catch.  I am just not sure he can get open.  Either he is too slow, or doesn't have the quicks in his breaks to create seperation....maybe a little of both?

    @ballpeen said:

    Bell can catch.  I am just not sure he can get open.  Either he is too slow, or doesn't have the quicks in his breaks to create seperation....maybe a little of both?

    FWIW: According to the stats, apparently he is the best rookie WR at getting separation. 

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/2/17/23604752/david-bell-browns-nfl-draft-separation

  • Have started to look at the FA class, because other BBoard members have pointed out that it is uncommon for a rookie IDL to make an immediate impact, and we sure as heck need an improvement there. Spotrac has a nifty overview for those interested. 

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

    Turns out getting an improvement over Taven Bryan, who has a projected market value of 6.6 M, is going to be a challenge to say the least. Shy of the Browns entering the Da'Ron Payne sweepstakes that is, but I don't see us forking out 19 M given our tight cap space. Dalvin Tomlinson at 8.5 M seems one of very few other options of getting an improvement at an acceptable price.

    Maybe using our second rounder on IDL, and getting a more affordable rotation guy in free agency would be a better bet?

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Have started to look at the FA class, because other BBoard members have pointed out that it is uncommon for a rookie IDL to make an immediate impact, and we sure as heck need an improvement there. Spotrac has a nifty overview for those interested. 

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

    Not here to high jack Dutch's good player Prospect thread ?.. Most have quite a long list of prospects pending Combine.. but a..

    WOW ! .. to we have only added 5 players via the Free Agent route ?  It's just a tad to soon to discuss the pool of FA's yet because a Tread for that will soon come on that topic.. still no perfect science/to not knowing who hit's the FA list

    but here's a perfectly good example/click by position of FA's that may forecast thru the trees.. 

    If you want a more detailed breakdown of every single player and option then please jump into the articles below:

    Quarterbacks
    Running Backs
    Wide Receivers
    Tight Ends
    Tackles
    Guards
    Centers
    Edges (Starting)
    Edges (Rotational)
    Defensive Tackles
    Linebackers
    Cornerbacks
    Safeties

     
     
    ( head banging stuff )

    This time of year.. I have a bad habit of saving a ton of hype links ?

    This Overall rocket science ? project can be found in this link

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/Cleveland-Browns-Free-Agency-Cheat-Sheet-204777079/#204777079_1

    can't stress enough...There's a L O N G way to go on players the media has no clue of knowing at this time and the Combine is the GM's meeting place..

    stay tuned !  A lot  of confirmed news is still to come #prospectsgalore.. Now back to drafting some.. 

  • Not here to hijack anything, aside from those sweet jerseys and jackets @dutch-ovenposted pictures of 😛

    Just don't see how you discuss the draft in a vacuum, without discussing FA. The free agents we can add to fill needs, will have a significant impact on our ability to draft best player available, or fill other needs. 

  • Not here to hijack anything, aside from those sweet jerseys and jackets @dutch-ovenposted pictures of 😛

    Just don't see how you discuss the draft in a vacuum, without discussing FA. The free agents we can add to fill needs, will have a significant impact on our ability to draft best player available, or fill other needs. 

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Not here to hijack anything, aside from those sweet jerseys and jackets @dutch-ovenposted pictures of 😛

    Just don't see how you discuss the draft in a vacuum, without discussing FA. The free agents we can add to fill needs, will have a significant impact on our ability to draft best player available, or fill other needs. 

    True.  However, the Browns are already paying veterans from OTHER NFL teams some big $ against the cap like Deshaun Watson, Jack Conklin (new contract), Wyatt Teller, John Johnson, Anthony Walker, Amari Cooper, Corey Bojorquez, Jakeem Grant, and Jacoby Brissett.   Before the NFL increased the salary cap recently, the Browns were one of the teams that had the least amount of cap space available for spending.  

  • @gumby73 said:

    Seems like a better class of under 6 ft WR's// than over... that will get out of R1.. The CB's overall speed, should out class this WR group overall..

    Saw 2 Tyler Scott games.. If Berry's looking to replace straight-line Schwartz? Tyler Scott looks to find open green grass.. Scott should run well too.. 

    Good to see ya back AG.. 

    Thanks-and agree on Schwartz. We can't afford a WR with speed that can't run routes or catch a cold. And please no Boutte WR from LSU. He's a carbon copy of Schwartz.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Thanks-and agree on Schwartz. We can't afford a WR with speed that can't run routes or catch a cold. And please no Boutte WR from LSU. He's a carbon copy of Schwartz.

    Stick a nail in that cough'fin !

    Drop rates for top WR prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft:
    • Kayshon Boutte: 13.8%  🥷
    • Quentin Johnston: 8.5%-- true X WR
    • Marvin Mims: 7.9%
    • Rashee Rice: 7.8%
    • Jalin Hyatt: 6.7%
    • Jaxon Smith-Njigba: 4.8% (2021)
    • Zay Flowers: 4.4%
    • Jordan Addison: 3.1%
    • Josh Downs: 2%
    5:15 PM · Jan 3, 2023
    Jacob Infante@jacobinfante24
    Drop rates for top WR prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft:

    • Kayshon Boutte: 13.8% 😬
    • Quentin Johnston: 8.5%
    • Marvin Mims: 7.9%
    • Rashee Rice: 7.8%
    • Jalin Hyatt: 6.7%
    • Jaxon Smith-Njigba: 4.8% (2021)
    • Zay Flowers: 4.4%
    • Jordan Addison: 3.1%
    • Josh Downs: 2%
     
    Other WR slot options? Parker Washington/ Jayden Reed/ Tyler Scott 

    I'm good with Coop & DPJ.. and this draft class has some good slot options to replace Schwartz..

    edit-- No football? Man! What a lit hockey party at Carter Finley in Raleigh,NC we attended ? 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Thanks-and agree on Schwartz. We can't afford a WR with speed that can't run routes or catch a cold. And please no Boutte WR from LSU. He's a carbon copy of Schwartz.

    Stick a nail in that cough'fin !

    Drop rates for top WR prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft:
    • Kayshon Boutte: 13.8%  🥷
    • Quentin Johnston: 8.5%-- true X WR
    • Marvin Mims: 7.9%
    • Rashee Rice: 7.8%
    • Jalin Hyatt: 6.7%
    • Jaxon Smith-Njigba: 4.8% (2021)
    • Zay Flowers: 4.4%
    • Jordan Addison: 3.1%
    • Josh Downs: 2%
    5:15 PM · Jan 3, 2023
    Jacob Infante@jacobinfante24
    Drop rates for top WR prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft:

    • Kayshon Boutte: 13.8% 😬
    • Quentin Johnston: 8.5%
    • Marvin Mims: 7.9%
    • Rashee Rice: 7.8%
    • Jalin Hyatt: 6.7%
    • Jaxon Smith-Njigba: 4.8% (2021)
    • Zay Flowers: 4.4%
    • Jordan Addison: 3.1%
    • Josh Downs: 2%
     
    Other WR slot options? Parker Washington/ Jayden Reed/ Tyler Scott 

    I'm good with Coop & DPJ.. and this draft class has some good slot options to replace Schwartz..

    edit-- No football? Man! What a lit hockey party at Carter Finley in Raleigh,NC we attended ? 

    @gumby73 said:

    Stick a nail in that cough'fin !

     
    Other WR slot options? Parker Washington/ Jayden Reed/ Tyler Scott 

    I'm good with Coop & DPJ.. and this draft class has some good slot options to replace Schwartz..

    I'm still on-board with Parker Washington, he really impressed me during his game vs Ohio State. 

  • @gumby73 said:

    Stick a nail in that cough'fin !

     
    Other WR slot options? Parker Washington/ Jayden Reed/ Tyler Scott 

    I'm good with Coop & DPJ.. and this draft class has some good slot options to replace Schwartz..

    I'm still on-board with Parker Washington, he really impressed me during his game vs Ohio State. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm still on-board with Parker Washington, he really impressed me during his game vs Ohio State. 

    Yeah, I like him too..

    Reminds me of watching another lion last season, in Johan Dotson in last draft season.. Most thought Dotson was over-drafted when he went Pick #16/but, showed signs of that value at Washington.

    WR Parker Washington's combine medicals is something I'm watching..  

    Nov 22, 2022 — Penn State receiver Parker Washington sustained an injury that will cause him to miss the remainder of the 2022 football season.

    If Washington slides to the mid-rounds? a injury red flag may have something to do with it?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Thanks-and agree on Schwartz. We can't afford a WR with speed that can't run routes or catch a cold. And please no Boutte WR from LSU. He's a carbon copy of Schwartz.

    Stick a nail in that cough'fin !

    Drop rates for top WR prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft:
    • Kayshon Boutte: 13.8%  🥷
    • Quentin Johnston: 8.5%-- true X WR
    • Marvin Mims: 7.9%
    • Rashee Rice: 7.8%
    • Jalin Hyatt: 6.7%
    • Jaxon Smith-Njigba: 4.8% (2021)
    • Zay Flowers: 4.4%
    • Jordan Addison: 3.1%
    • Josh Downs: 2%
    5:15 PM · Jan 3, 2023
    Jacob Infante@jacobinfante24
    Drop rates for top WR prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft:

    • Kayshon Boutte: 13.8% 😬
    • Quentin Johnston: 8.5%
    • Marvin Mims: 7.9%
    • Rashee Rice: 7.8%
    • Jalin Hyatt: 6.7%
    • Jaxon Smith-Njigba: 4.8% (2021)
    • Zay Flowers: 4.4%
    • Jordan Addison: 3.1%
    • Josh Downs: 2%
     
    Other WR slot options? Parker Washington/ Jayden Reed/ Tyler Scott 

    I'm good with Coop & DPJ.. and this draft class has some good slot options to replace Schwartz..

    edit-- No football? Man! What a lit hockey party at Carter Finley in Raleigh,NC we attended ? 

    @gumby73 said:

    Stick a nail in that cough'fin !

    Drop rates for top WR prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft:
    • Kayshon Boutte: 13.8%  🥷
    • Quentin Johnston: 8.5%-- true X WR
    • Marvin Mims: 7.9%
    • Rashee Rice: 7.8%
    • Jalin Hyatt: 6.7%
    • Jaxon Smith-Njigba: 4.8% (2021)
    • Zay Flowers: 4.4%
    • Jordan Addison: 3.1%
    • Josh Downs: 2%
     
    Other WR slot options? Parker Washington/ Jayden Reed/ Tyler Scott 

    I'm good with Coop & DPJ.. and this draft class has some good slot options to replace Schwartz..

    edit-- No football? Man! What a lit hockey party at Carter Finley in Raleigh,NC we attended ? 

    What constitutes a drop?  Does everybody make that call the same way?

    For that reason I don't put a ton of weight in to stats like that.  No doubt it is something to consider but if using those figures, I wouldn't eliminate Boutte from my list and put Downs at the top as an absolute.

  • @korsou-dawg Free Agency and the Draft go hand in hand. So you're absolutely right there, and this should be a thread to discuss all of that.

    Not to bogard this talk either, myself and Flugel are going to be on the Browns Board discord around 1:30p EST to go over film on Jed Wills. If Anybody is interested in joining, all are welcomed as usual.

    https://discord.gg/CSwhwRw8

    Download the discord app ---> install --->create/register user name ---> copy and paste that link I put above.  And you're in.   

  • @gumby73 said:

    Stick a nail in that cough'fin !

    Drop rates for top WR prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft:
    • Kayshon Boutte: 13.8%  🥷
    • Quentin Johnston: 8.5%-- true X WR
    • Marvin Mims: 7.9%
    • Rashee Rice: 7.8%
    • Jalin Hyatt: 6.7%
    • Jaxon Smith-Njigba: 4.8% (2021)
    • Zay Flowers: 4.4%
    • Jordan Addison: 3.1%
    • Josh Downs: 2%
     
    Other WR slot options? Parker Washington/ Jayden Reed/ Tyler Scott 

    I'm good with Coop & DPJ.. and this draft class has some good slot options to replace Schwartz..

    edit-- No football? Man! What a lit hockey party at Carter Finley in Raleigh,NC we attended ? 

    What constitutes a drop?  Does everybody make that call the same way?

    For that reason I don't put a ton of weight in to stats like that.  No doubt it is something to consider but if using those figures, I wouldn't eliminate Boutte from my list and put Downs at the top as an absolute.

    What constitutes a drop?  Does everybody make that call the same way?

    I doubt some..not Infante on most.. In my film study it's..  any catch-able ball within wingspan of 2 hands on ball.. 

     Concentration drops, late in Josh Downs season kinda shocked me with a drop rating at 2%  

    @ballpeen said:

     I wouldn't eliminate Boutte from my list and put Downs at the top as an absolute.

    see my post on Downs above ^^  a n d....I'm not sold on Mingo nor Boutte having the separation speed to play either outside WR positions... I'm seeing both as better NFL inside slot options than Schwartz..    

  • @gumby73 said:

     2022 season/  DL vs The Run Stat Study

    https://steelersdepot.com/2023/02/2023-nfl-draft-prospects-dl-run-defense-stat-study/

    I think I like it...lots to digest.

  • @gumby73 said:

     2022 season/  DL vs The Run Stat Study

    https://steelersdepot.com/2023/02/2023-nfl-draft-prospects-dl-run-defense-stat-study/

    Thanks Gumbs!  This is awesome!  Maybe we can get MJP to pin it. for us.

  • Thanks Peen & Flug's..

    I'm that guy, that will steel good nutz & bolts from any teams writers.. writer Clayton Eckert, joined depot in 2021 around draft season. I've checked his stuff on twitter for some time now.. This was broke down, really well from what I've seen elsewhere.. Pitt. does have pick 2.1 traded from Bears/#50 as well

    Stuck watching the ACC.. I was aware of Turner from Wake and Orhorhoro from Clemson.. I've added Matlock & Ojomo to view some games next week.. 

    Combine Week starts March 2nd 3pm..  I'll be over here ?'g to move up from pick #98   

  • @gumby73 said:

     2022 season/  DL vs The Run Stat Study

    https://steelersdepot.com/2023/02/2023-nfl-draft-prospects-dl-run-defense-stat-study/

    Thanks Gumbs!  This is awesome!  Maybe we can get MJP to pin it. for us.

    @flugel said:

    Thanks Gumbs!  This is awesome!  Maybe we can get MJP to pin it. for us.

    We can do that I'll be back in here Tuesday. 

  • @flugel said:

    Thanks Gumbs!  This is awesome!  Maybe we can get MJP to pin it. for us.

    We can do that I'll be back in here Tuesday. 

    @mjp28 said:

    We can do that I'll be back in here Tuesday. 

    ◆  OK pinned the thread  February 21, 2023.  ◆