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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    My gosh, he is far more destructive than anyone would have imagined.

    How freaking stupid. That would only encourage putin to upscale attacks on

    Ukraine's civilians to hope for such a deal.

    Afterwards, of course, he'd go to war to take the rest of the ukraine and laugh at biden

    for being such a dumbass.

    like the people who voted against Pres Trump - look what they have done to our country, just to FEEL

    like they matter to the social media left.

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      all this started back in 2014 during the euromaiden revolution the U.S wanted then president viktor yanukovch out of office yes the same viktor that will take back control it putin wins the u.s wanted viktor to sign the e.u terms for an assoCIAtion agreement but his ties with moscow got stronger

      so yes are Govermant  stuck there  noses where it did not belong and look  where it got them 8 years later

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        all this started back in 2014 during the euromaiden revolution the U.S wanted then president viktor yanukovch out of office yes the same viktor that will take back control it putin wins the u.s wanted viktor to sign the e.u terms for an assoCIAtion agreement but his ties with moscow got stronger

        so yes are Govermant  stuck there  noses where it did not belong and look  where it got them 8 years later

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        @syd said:

        all this started back in 2014 during the euromaiden revolution the U.S wanted then president viktor yanukovch out of office yes the same viktor that will take back control it putin wins the u.s wanted viktor to sign the e.u terms for an assoCIAtion agreement but his ties with moscow got stronger

        so yes are Govermant  stuck there  noses where it did not belong and look  where it got them 8 years later

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          @syd said:

          all this started back in 2014 during the euromaiden revolution the U.S wanted then president viktor yanukovch out of office yes the same viktor that will take back control it putin wins the u.s wanted viktor to sign the e.u terms for an assoCIAtion agreement but his ties with moscow got stronger

          so yes are Govermant  stuck there  noses where it did not belong and look  where it got them 8 years later

          766.gif.97d3d7a83007530adfb26a8dfb859b13.gif

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          @vambo said:

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          well it did start under obama

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            all this started back in 2014 during the euromaiden revolution the U.S wanted then president viktor yanukovch out of office yes the same viktor that will take back control it putin wins the u.s wanted viktor to sign the e.u terms for an assoCIAtion agreement but his ties with moscow got stronger

            so yes are Govermant  stuck there  noses where it did not belong and look  where it got them 8 years later

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            @syd said:

            all this started back in 2014 during the euromaiden revolution the U.S wanted then president viktor yanukovch out of office yes the same viktor that will take back control it putin wins the u.s wanted viktor to sign the e.u terms for an assoCIAtion agreement but his ties with moscow got stronger

            so yes are Govermant  stuck there  noses where it did not belong and look  where it got them 8 years later

            sorry, history goes back far, far earlier than 2014.

            https://www.history.com/news/what-countries-were-in-soviet-union

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              @syd said:

              all this started back in 2014 during the euromaiden revolution the U.S wanted then president viktor yanukovch out of office yes the same viktor that will take back control it putin wins the u.s wanted viktor to sign the e.u terms for an assoCIAtion agreement but his ties with moscow got stronger

              so yes are Govermant  stuck there  noses where it did not belong and look  where it got them 8 years later

              sorry, history goes back far, far earlier than 2014.

              https://www.history.com/news/what-countries-were-in-soviet-union

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              @calfoxwc said:

              sorry, history goes back far, far earlier than 2014.

              https://www.history.com/news/what-countries-were-in-soviet-union

              it is all about money as our country sells arms to other countries 

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                @calfoxwc said:

                sorry, history goes back far, far earlier than 2014.

                https://www.history.com/news/what-countries-were-in-soviet-union

                it is all about money as our country sells arms to other countries 

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                @syd said:

                it is all about money as our country sells arms to other countries 

                no. It's also about preventing WWIII.

                America tried to stay out of WWI and WWII. Until we could no longer stay out of it. However, by the time we entered,

                all hell and devastation had broken loose, and it was a gigantic war by that time. So many of our soldiers and innocent civilians died, millions died,

                because we waited and didn't step in way, way earlier.

                The genocide, rape, torture, crimes against humantiy by russian troops - would never have happened had we elected Pres Trump again.

                Instead, russia went to take the Ukraine - back in the day known as "the breadbasket of Europte" because our oov is leaderless and screwed up.

                Peace through strength. Wars/violence/crimes against humanity through weakness and leftwing confusion, leftwing bs, leftwing cowardice.

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                  @syd said:

                  it is all about money as our country sells arms to other countries 

                  no. It's also about preventing WWIII.

                  America tried to stay out of WWI and WWII. Until we could no longer stay out of it. However, by the time we entered,

                  all hell and devastation had broken loose, and it was a gigantic war by that time. So many of our soldiers and innocent civilians died, millions died,

                  because we waited and didn't step in way, way earlier.

                  The genocide, rape, torture, crimes against humantiy by russian troops - would never have happened had we elected Pres Trump again.

                  Instead, russia went to take the Ukraine - back in the day known as "the breadbasket of Europte" because our oov is leaderless and screwed up.

                  Peace through strength. Wars/violence/crimes against humanity through weakness and leftwing confusion, leftwing bs, leftwing cowardice.

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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  no. It's also about preventing WWIII.

                  America tried to stay out of WWI and WWII. Until we could no longer stay out of it. However, by the time we entered,

                  all hell and devastation had broken loose, and it was a gigantic war by that time. So many of our soldiers and innocent civilians died, millions died,

                  because we waited and didn't step in way, way earlier.

                  The genocide, rape, torture, crimes against humantiy by russian troops - would never have happened had we elected Pres Trump again.

                  Instead, russia went to take the Ukraine - back in the day known as "the breadbasket of Europte" because our oov is leaderless and screwed up.

                  Peace through strength. Wars/violence/crimes against humanity through weakness and leftwing confusion, leftwing bs, leftwing cowardice.

                  I hope you are right  but i do not see it ending well for the Ukraine because putin will not stop and the Ukraine has to know this and should just give in to putins demands 

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                    My gosh, he is far more destructive than anyone would have imagined.

                    How freaking stupid. That would only encourage putin to upscale attacks on

                    Ukraine's civilians to hope for such a deal.

                    Afterwards, of course, he'd go to war to take the rest of the ukraine and laugh at biden

                    for being such a dumbass.

                    like the people who voted against Pres Trump - look what they have done to our country, just to FEEL

                    like they matter to the social media left.

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                    sydS syd wrote on last edited by syd
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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    he'd go to war to take the rest of the ukraine and laugh at biden

                    he already is laughing at all the money we are sending them in a war that the ukraine cannot win

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                      @syd said:

                      it is all about money as our country sells arms to other countries 

                      no. It's also about preventing WWIII.

                      America tried to stay out of WWI and WWII. Until we could no longer stay out of it. However, by the time we entered,

                      all hell and devastation had broken loose, and it was a gigantic war by that time. So many of our soldiers and innocent civilians died, millions died,

                      because we waited and didn't step in way, way earlier.

                      The genocide, rape, torture, crimes against humantiy by russian troops - would never have happened had we elected Pres Trump again.

                      Instead, russia went to take the Ukraine - back in the day known as "the breadbasket of Europte" because our oov is leaderless and screwed up.

                      Peace through strength. Wars/violence/crimes against humanity through weakness and leftwing confusion, leftwing bs, leftwing cowardice.

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                      hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      no. It's also about preventing WWIII.

                      America tried to stay out of WWI and WWII. Until we could no longer stay out of it. However, by the time we entered,

                      all hell and devastation had broken loose, and it was a gigantic war by that time. So many of our soldiers and innocent civilians died, millions died,

                      because we waited and didn't step in way, way earlier.

                      The genocide, rape, torture, crimes against humantiy by russian troops - would never have happened had we elected Pres Trump again.

                      Instead, russia went to take the Ukraine - back in the day known as "the breadbasket of Europte" because our oov is leaderless and screwed up.

                      Peace through strength. Wars/violence/crimes against humanity through weakness and leftwing confusion, leftwing bs, leftwing cowardice.

                      Wars are about power and money

                      there’s $$$ in war.

                      ukraine smells like shit ,  I hope we don’t repeat history again.

                      look at the big picture,  Putin is light years ahead of the shithead we have as a leader.

                      guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        no. It's also about preventing WWIII.

                        America tried to stay out of WWI and WWII. Until we could no longer stay out of it. However, by the time we entered,

                        all hell and devastation had broken loose, and it was a gigantic war by that time. So many of our soldiers and innocent civilians died, millions died,

                        because we waited and didn't step in way, way earlier.

                        The genocide, rape, torture, crimes against humantiy by russian troops - would never have happened had we elected Pres Trump again.

                        Instead, russia went to take the Ukraine - back in the day known as "the breadbasket of Europte" because our oov is leaderless and screwed up.

                        Peace through strength. Wars/violence/crimes against humanity through weakness and leftwing confusion, leftwing bs, leftwing cowardice.

                        Wars are about power and money

                        there’s $$$ in war.

                        ukraine smells like shit ,  I hope we don’t repeat history again.

                        look at the big picture,  Putin is light years ahead of the shithead we have as a leader.

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                        @hammertime said:

                        Wars are about power and money

                        there’s $$$ in war.

                        ukraine smells like shit ,  I hope we don’t repeat history again.

                        look at the big picture,  Putin is light years ahead of the shithead we have as a leader.

                        Basically true - however the reason is, some countries in the past were desperate to survive, and the power to rule and make benefit of controlling other countries' wealth (or stop another country from stopping them, etc) is why wars are fought. Communist and socialist governments fail. They always do  - it is ingrained into what they are - super controlling, oppressive, lethal violation of human rights, etc etc - and let the hostilities begin.

                        https://world101.cfr.org/historical-context/world-war/why-did-world-war-ii-happen

                        WWI - read about The League - diid NOT prevent WWII. Then read about the United Nations. Doesn't stop anything. But the league was good at disarming populaces, not governments, and it was good for global health initiatives.

                        Though the League ultimately failed to prevent World War II, the organization made critical inroads on issues such as global health and arms control. Sound familiar? The UN is a hapless, helpless org that is also good at global health and "disarmament" except for governments.

                        It is so complicated. The economies of china and russia are on the skids. That means they will go to war to survive - including crushing their own citizens of their basic human rights/freedoms.

                        We'll see what transpires - but to me, it looks dangerously dismal, from a historical perspective.

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