Haslams in talks to buy 25% stake in Bucks
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Yup. No matter where ya go. But here, he'll have a team trying to beat the hometown Cavs. Not that I have any skin in the game. I've always been a Knicks fan.
You have a point, but I don't know how much a part owner really impacts a teams ability to win. It seems to me that for the super wealthy, investing in a sports team is a good place to park your money.
You have a point, but I don't know how much a part owner really impacts a teams ability to win. It seems to me that for the super wealthy, investing in a sports team is a good place to park your money.
Yeah, it's got to be a good place to park your money if you're super wealthy.
As for your first point, just recall Haslam's meddling in the 2014 draft with Manziel, and his hand- picked GM Ray Farmer that sabotaged a 6-3 start to a season.
Furthermore, Haslam's trust in DePodesta is mind boggling. I'm of the opinion that DePodesta's influence has handcuffed the Browns ability to win the last 2 seasons...I don't know if it can be proven, but I seriously doubt Stefanski/Berry okayed the "play an injured Baker" plan, that had to come from above.
Also, ultimately the 2022 season was blown up by a questionable QB acquisition, & ignoring basic needs like DT. Time will tell what the long term effects will be of the DW signing ( we hope it's playoffs/a contender) but Haslam definitely had to sign off on it.
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You have a point, but I don't know how much a part owner really impacts a teams ability to win. It seems to me that for the super wealthy, investing in a sports team is a good place to park your money.
Yeah, it's got to be a good place to park your money if you're super wealthy.
As for your first point, just recall Haslam's meddling in the 2014 draft with Manziel, and his hand- picked GM Ray Farmer that sabotaged a 6-3 start to a season.
Furthermore, Haslam's trust in DePodesta is mind boggling. I'm of the opinion that DePodesta's influence has handcuffed the Browns ability to win the last 2 seasons...I don't know if it can be proven, but I seriously doubt Stefanski/Berry okayed the "play an injured Baker" plan, that had to come from above.
Also, ultimately the 2022 season was blown up by a questionable QB acquisition, & ignoring basic needs like DT. Time will tell what the long term effects will be of the DW signing ( we hope it's playoffs/a contender) but Haslam definitely had to sign off on it.
I seriously doubt Stefanski/Berry okayed the "play an injured Baker" plan
The thing is, Baker was cleared to be practicing and playing by the medical staff. That would be quite a controversial decision, to sit your #1 overall draft pick QB, who was medically cleared to play. If you lose that game, you've got some answering to do.
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I seriously doubt Stefanski/Berry okayed the "play an injured Baker" plan
The thing is, Baker was cleared to be practicing and playing by the medical staff. That would be quite a controversial decision, to sit your #1 overall draft pick QB, who was medically cleared to play. If you lose that game, you've got some answering to do.
The thing is, Baker was cleared to be practicing and playing by the medical staff. That would be quite a controversial decision, to sit your #1 overall draft pick QB, who was medically cleared to play. If you lose that game, you've got some answering to do.
They went 8-9. He was injured in week 2 (or 3?). Basically played the whole season except for the last game and the Denver Thurs night game.
I don't think the Browns medical staff cleared him, it was a 2nd opinion Baker got from another Dr.
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You have a point, but I don't know how much a part owner really impacts a teams ability to win. It seems to me that for the super wealthy, investing in a sports team is a good place to park your money.
Yeah, it's got to be a good place to park your money if you're super wealthy.
As for your first point, just recall Haslam's meddling in the 2014 draft with Manziel, and his hand- picked GM Ray Farmer that sabotaged a 6-3 start to a season.
Furthermore, Haslam's trust in DePodesta is mind boggling. I'm of the opinion that DePodesta's influence has handcuffed the Browns ability to win the last 2 seasons...I don't know if it can be proven, but I seriously doubt Stefanski/Berry okayed the "play an injured Baker" plan, that had to come from above.
Also, ultimately the 2022 season was blown up by a questionable QB acquisition, & ignoring basic needs like DT. Time will tell what the long term effects will be of the DW signing ( we hope it's playoffs/a contender) but Haslam definitely had to sign off on it.
Yeah, it's got to be a good place to park your money if you're super wealthy.
As for your first point, just recall Haslam's meddling in the 2014 draft with Manziel, and his hand- picked GM Ray Farmer that sabotaged a 6-3 start to a season.
Furthermore, Haslam's trust in DePodesta is mind boggling. I'm of the opinion that DePodesta's influence has handcuffed the Browns ability to win the last 2 seasons...I don't know if it can be proven, but I seriously doubt Stefanski/Berry okayed the "play an injured Baker" plan, that had to come from above.
Also, ultimately the 2022 season was blown up by a questionable QB acquisition, & ignoring basic needs like DT. Time will tell what the long term effects will be of the DW signing ( we hope it's playoffs/a contender) but Haslam definitely had to sign off on it.
All of that is well and good, if in fact as true as you think. I still don't see how him owning the Bucks will have anything to do with the Browns. Him owing the Bucks won't make him better or worse as the owner of the Browns.
I get that you don't like Haslam, which is fine. At least some of that dislike has been earned. If you are a fan of the Bucks, I would understand your concern but as far as how this will impact the Browns, I just feel you are squawking to squawk, and I don't mean that as some sort of snack talk. All of those teams are separate corporations, so one isn't going to impact another if they run in to some sort of trouble.
Heck, if anything it might take Haslam's focus away from the Browns just a bit, which by the arguments you make would seem to be a good thing.
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The thing is, Baker was cleared to be practicing and playing by the medical staff. That would be quite a controversial decision, to sit your #1 overall draft pick QB, who was medically cleared to play. If you lose that game, you've got some answering to do.
They went 8-9. He was injured in week 2 (or 3?). Basically played the whole season except for the last game and the Denver Thurs night game.
I don't think the Browns medical staff cleared him, it was a 2nd opinion Baker got from another Dr.
They went 8-9. He was injured in week 2 (or 3?). Basically played the whole season except for the last game and the Denver Thurs night game.
I don't think the Browns medical staff cleared him, it was a 2nd opinion Baker got from another Dr.
I looked around and couldn't find which doctor it was that you think cleared him.
At any rate, he got the clearance. Then Baker went on his rant about playing. How it was his decision.
Anyway, that is old news. He played his way out of Cleveland and that chapter about the Browns is over.
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Yeah, it's got to be a good place to park your money if you're super wealthy.
As for your first point, just recall Haslam's meddling in the 2014 draft with Manziel, and his hand- picked GM Ray Farmer that sabotaged a 6-3 start to a season.
Furthermore, Haslam's trust in DePodesta is mind boggling. I'm of the opinion that DePodesta's influence has handcuffed the Browns ability to win the last 2 seasons...I don't know if it can be proven, but I seriously doubt Stefanski/Berry okayed the "play an injured Baker" plan, that had to come from above.
Also, ultimately the 2022 season was blown up by a questionable QB acquisition, & ignoring basic needs like DT. Time will tell what the long term effects will be of the DW signing ( we hope it's playoffs/a contender) but Haslam definitely had to sign off on it.
All of that is well and good, if in fact as true as you think. I still don't see how him owning the Bucks will have anything to do with the Browns. Him owing the Bucks won't make him better or worse as the owner of the Browns.
I get that you don't like Haslam, which is fine. At least some of that dislike has been earned. If you are a fan of the Bucks, I would understand your concern but as far as how this will impact the Browns, I just feel you are squawking to squawk, and I don't mean that as some sort of snack talk. All of those teams are separate corporations, so one isn't going to impact another if they run in to some sort of trouble.
Heck, if anything it might take Haslam's focus away from the Browns just a bit, which by the arguments you make would seem to be a good thing.
All of that is well and good, if in fact as true as you think. I still don't see how him owning the Bucks will have anything to do with the Browns. Him owing the Bucks won't make him better or worse as the owner of the Browns.
I get that you don't like Haslam, which is fine. At least some of that dislike has been earned. If you are a fan of the Bucks, I would understand your concern but as far as how this will impact the Browns, I just feel you are squawking to squawk, and I don't mean that as some sort of snack talk. All of those teams are separate corporations, so one isn't going to impact another if they run in to some sort of trouble.
Heck, if anything it might take Haslam's focus away from the Browns just a bit, which by the arguments you make would seem to be a good thing.
Well I'll rant once again...I know you're a season ticket holder like me.
My seats went up $100. I'm not thrilled about that- to Haslam's credit, he didn't raise ticket prices hardly at all after he took over, yet I believe this is the 3rd straight year of increases...why?
I've been arguing with the Browns/my ticket agent about when the money is due. It's due March 24th....in general I've been ok with that, but not anymore.
We send our $$ in before FA & the Draft. It's like buying a used car unseen...just is a stupid policy IMHO.
So are we/did we help fund his Milwaukee Bucks purchase??
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I agree about money due before FA and the draft. I guess i would renew none the less.
I am not sure if mine went up. I will have to look at my credit card statement to figure that out.
I do know my invoice is for $4500 minus some credit.
So, I do agree, today isn't the best day to talk about owners an such...lol
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I’ll just drop this here as a reminder. . .
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I’ll just drop this here as a reminder. . .
I’ll just drop this here as a reminder. . .
Is it any wonder why the Browns consistently suck?... I say not anymore... The Haslams are total DIP SHITS!
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Why?
Because it is a soccer team, or is there some story behind Pete Edwards?
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This should be gold.
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Isn't the Crew the home team for the Cleveland area fans? The Bucks, on the other hand, would be a rival of the Cavs.
Isn't the Crew the home team for the Cleveland area fans? The Bucks, on the other hand, would be a rival of the Cavs.
Sure is....been that way for a good while.
I don't see a problem or any reason why an owner of a team should limit their opportunities in another sport. I don't see a conflict of interest.
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Isn't the Crew the home team for the Cleveland area fans? The Bucks, on the other hand, would be a rival of the Cavs.
Sure is....been that way for a good while.
I don't see a problem or any reason why an owner of a team should limit their opportunities in another sport. I don't see a conflict of interest.
I don't see a problem or any reason why an owner of a team should limit their opportunities in another sport. I don't see a conflict of interest.
.......I'm just sayin'.....he's buying into a rival of the home team fans. If he gets full ownership the Bucks will be wearing polka dot uniforms.
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I don't see a problem or any reason why an owner of a team should limit their opportunities in another sport. I don't see a conflict of interest.
.......I'm just sayin'.....he's buying into a rival of the home team fans. If he gets full ownership the Bucks will be wearing polka dot uniforms.
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