2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects
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When all is said and done it reverts back to BPA year over after year. What has been accomplished with glamour picks and need picks the last 10 years? Only one I recall also just happened to be BPA and that was Garrett. Any others anyone recalls?
When all is said and done it reverts back to BPA year over after year. What has been accomplished with glamour picks and need picks the last 10 years? Only one I recall also just happened to be BPA and that was Garrett. Any others anyone recalls?
I am not going to try to name names and do research, but I agree.
In the end you almost always need to go with the best player you can find. Obviously you aren't going to keep drafting 1st round QB's if you have a good QB, but needs extend past more than the next season.
You can project needs 3-4 years ahead, so you need to take the best players you can.
That said, in any draft with nearly any pick you end up with a group of players who are similar in ability, so at that point you can direct your attention a bit more towards immediate needs.
As an example, we probably don't need a RB this draft, but who knows about next year? That is why if a good back is available in the right sport, we need to take him.
Sometimes the picks don't make any sense to us fans, but we tend to think in the here and now and aren't thinking 2-3 years down the road. Good GM's are thinking 2-3, maybe even more years down the road.
When the window is open you try to take advantage, but when it starts to close, you want it to close some, not just slam shut.
FA is for fixing immediate needs. The draft is for the long term health of the team.
I don't know if any of you play chess. It has been a long time hobby of mine. Good players are thinking 5-6 moves ahead. If you find yourself in the position of making the immediate fix to block some attack on your queen or king, and you are stuck in that position time after time, you might as well turn over your king, you are going to lose a slow painful death. It was all planned 10 moves in the past.
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When all is said and done it reverts back to BPA year over after year. What has been accomplished with glamour picks and need picks the last 10 years? Only one I recall also just happened to be BPA and that was Garrett. Any others anyone recalls?
I am not going to try to name names and do research, but I agree.
In the end you almost always need to go with the best player you can find. Obviously you aren't going to keep drafting 1st round QB's if you have a good QB, but needs extend past more than the next season.
You can project needs 3-4 years ahead, so you need to take the best players you can.
That said, in any draft with nearly any pick you end up with a group of players who are similar in ability, so at that point you can direct your attention a bit more towards immediate needs.
As an example, we probably don't need a RB this draft, but who knows about next year? That is why if a good back is available in the right sport, we need to take him.
Sometimes the picks don't make any sense to us fans, but we tend to think in the here and now and aren't thinking 2-3 years down the road. Good GM's are thinking 2-3, maybe even more years down the road.
When the window is open you try to take advantage, but when it starts to close, you want it to close some, not just slam shut.
FA is for fixing immediate needs. The draft is for the long term health of the team.
I don't know if any of you play chess. It has been a long time hobby of mine. Good players are thinking 5-6 moves ahead. If you find yourself in the position of making the immediate fix to block some attack on your queen or king, and you are stuck in that position time after time, you might as well turn over your king, you are going to lose a slow painful death. It was all planned 10 moves in the past.
I am not going to try to name names and do research, but I agree.
In the end you almost always need to go with the best player you can find. Obviously you aren't going to keep drafting 1st round QB's if you have a good QB, but needs extend past more than the next season.
You can project needs 3-4 years ahead, so you need to take the best players you can.
That said, in any draft with nearly any pick you end up with a group of players who are similar in ability, so at that point you can direct your attention a bit more towards immediate needs.
As an example, we probably don't need a RB this draft, but who knows about next year? That is why if a good back is available in the right sport, we need to take him.
Sometimes the picks don't make any sense to us fans, but we tend to think in the here and now and aren't thinking 2-3 years down the road. Good GM's are thinking 2-3, maybe even more years down the road.
When the window is open you try to take advantage, but when it starts to close, you want it to close some, not just slam shut.
FA is for fixing immediate needs. The draft is for the long term health of the team.
I don't know if any of you play chess. It has been a long time hobby of mine. Good players are thinking 5-6 moves ahead. If you find yourself in the position of making the immediate fix to block some attack on your queen or king, and you are stuck in that position time after time, you might as well turn over your king, you are going to lose a slow painful death. It was all planned 10 moves in the past.
Browns play checkers settling for the occasional hit or miss King while the chess players sacrifice a queen to build up massive pawn structure properly to develop a real team. I still wonder about whether giving up all those draft choices is really going to just keep the Browns/Clowns or a decent team. Hence one of my favorite Bobby Fisher games. ?
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It's been great seeing you back in the mix this frequently again because you post a lot of good stuff and challenge a lot of comments that lead to good discussions Peens. That said, we have what covered? The Browns are a 7-10 football team that didn't have very many productive starters drafted by Andrew Berry on the offensive or defensive lines. Who is the most criticized starter on the offensive line? The 10th overall pick from 2020 who has one of the best Offensive Line coaches in the league today. If he doesn't pan out - are we going to fire another Coach for how badly this FO is drafting?
Getting the information for the draft and using the information are 2 different things. Berry was an All Conference Cornerback at Harvard, which is a good thing. Looking at what he's done best with in the draft is the Cornerback position the last 2 drafts. There's his comfort zone IMO. He needs to step it up everywhere else; and I'm hoping he does. We've had a lot of really passionate fans that passed away in recent years waiting for this FO to get their shit together.
In a world that says you are what your record says you are, the Browns are in last place because the draft has said so.
...... " Getting the information for the draft and using the information are 2 different things. Berry was an All Conference Cornerback at Harvard, which is a good thing. Looking at what he's done best with in the draft is the Cornerback position the last 2 drafts. There's his comfort zone IMO. He needs to step it up everywhere else; and I'm hoping he does. We've had a lot of really passionate fans that passed away in recent years waiting for this FO to get their shit together.
In a world that says you are what your record says you are, the Browns are in last place because the draft has said so." ......
Interesting point of view in a "Bill Parcells way" same with the Harvard comment can he carry that through more in his results.
...... " Getting the information for the draft and using the information are 2 different things. Berry was an All Conference Cornerback at Harvard, which is a good thing. Looking at what he's done best with in the draft is the Cornerback position the last 2 drafts. There's his comfort zone IMO. He needs to step it up everywhere else; and I'm hoping he does. We've had a lot of really passionate fans that passed away in recent years waiting for this FO to get their shit together.
In a world that says you are what your record says you are, the Browns are in last place because the draft has said so." ......
Interesting point of view in a "Bill Parcells way" same with the Harvard comment can he carry that through more in his results.
Dom gummit, you even spelled Parcells right. I look like Dumb Ass using his name and spelling it wrong.
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When all is said and done it reverts back to BPA year over after year. What has been accomplished with glamour picks and need picks the last 10 years? Only one I recall also just happened to be BPA and that was Garrett. Any others anyone recalls?
I am not going to try to name names and do research, but I agree.
In the end you almost always need to go with the best player you can find. Obviously you aren't going to keep drafting 1st round QB's if you have a good QB, but needs extend past more than the next season.
You can project needs 3-4 years ahead, so you need to take the best players you can.
That said, in any draft with nearly any pick you end up with a group of players who are similar in ability, so at that point you can direct your attention a bit more towards immediate needs.
As an example, we probably don't need a RB this draft, but who knows about next year? That is why if a good back is available in the right sport, we need to take him.
Sometimes the picks don't make any sense to us fans, but we tend to think in the here and now and aren't thinking 2-3 years down the road. Good GM's are thinking 2-3, maybe even more years down the road.
When the window is open you try to take advantage, but when it starts to close, you want it to close some, not just slam shut.
FA is for fixing immediate needs. The draft is for the long term health of the team.
I don't know if any of you play chess. It has been a long time hobby of mine. Good players are thinking 5-6 moves ahead. If you find yourself in the position of making the immediate fix to block some attack on your queen or king, and you are stuck in that position time after time, you might as well turn over your king, you are going to lose a slow painful death. It was all planned 10 moves in the past.
I am not going to try to name names and do research, but I agree.
In the end you almost always need to go with the best player you can find. Obviously you aren't going to keep drafting 1st round QB's if you have a good QB, but needs extend past more than the next season.
You can project needs 3-4 years ahead, so you need to take the best players you can.
That said, in any draft with nearly any pick you end up with a group of players who are similar in ability, so at that point you can direct your attention a bit more towards immediate needs.
As an example, we probably don't need a RB this draft, but who knows about next year? That is why if a good back is available in the right sport, we need to take him.
Sometimes the picks don't make any sense to us fans, but we tend to think in the here and now and aren't thinking 2-3 years down the road. Good GM's are thinking 2-3, maybe even more years down the road.
When the window is open you try to take advantage, but when it starts to close, you want it to close some, not just slam shut.
FA is for fixing immediate needs. The draft is for the long term health of the team.
I don't know if any of you play chess. It has been a long time hobby of mine. Good players are thinking 5-6 moves ahead. If you find yourself in the position of making the immediate fix to block some attack on your queen or king, and you are stuck in that position time after time, you might as well turn over your king, you are going to lose a slow painful death. It was all planned 10 moves in the past.
Good points! This draft might be lining up DT/IDL need with BPA in round 2. The urgency for to draft QBs, LTs, Edge Rushers, WRs, DBs tend to push talented DTs and RBs into round 2 and 3. That wouldn't suck. The important question needed to be answered here - is the FO and scouting dept good at drafting DTs? Remains to be seen heading into their 4th draft.
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I am not going to try to name names and do research, but I agree.
In the end you almost always need to go with the best player you can find. Obviously you aren't going to keep drafting 1st round QB's if you have a good QB, but needs extend past more than the next season.
You can project needs 3-4 years ahead, so you need to take the best players you can.
That said, in any draft with nearly any pick you end up with a group of players who are similar in ability, so at that point you can direct your attention a bit more towards immediate needs.
As an example, we probably don't need a RB this draft, but who knows about next year? That is why if a good back is available in the right sport, we need to take him.
Sometimes the picks don't make any sense to us fans, but we tend to think in the here and now and aren't thinking 2-3 years down the road. Good GM's are thinking 2-3, maybe even more years down the road.
When the window is open you try to take advantage, but when it starts to close, you want it to close some, not just slam shut.
FA is for fixing immediate needs. The draft is for the long term health of the team.
I don't know if any of you play chess. It has been a long time hobby of mine. Good players are thinking 5-6 moves ahead. If you find yourself in the position of making the immediate fix to block some attack on your queen or king, and you are stuck in that position time after time, you might as well turn over your king, you are going to lose a slow painful death. It was all planned 10 moves in the past.
Good points! This draft might be lining up DT/IDL need with BPA in round 2. The urgency for to draft QBs, LTs, Edge Rushers, WRs, DBs tend to push talented DTs and RBs into round 2 and 3. That wouldn't suck. The important question needed to be answered here - is the FO and scouting dept good at drafting DTs? Remains to be seen heading into their 4th draft.
Good points! This draft might be lining up DT/IDL need with BPA in round 2. The urgency for to draft QBs, LTs, Edge Rushers, WRs, DBs tend to push talented DTs and RBs into round 2 and 3. That wouldn't suck. The important question needed to be answered here - is the FO and scouting dept good at drafting DTs? Remains to be seen heading into their 4th draft.
Good points! This draft might be lining up DT/IDL need with BPA in round 2. The urgency for to draft QBs, LTs, Edge Rushers, WRs, DBs tend to push talented DTs and RBs into round 2 and 3. That wouldn't suck. The important question needed to be answered here - is the FO and scouting dept good at drafting DTs? Remains to be seen heading into their 4th draft.
Not only that, are rookie DT's able to make as much of an impact as we might want or would we be better off from a needs standpoint to look for a FA DT?
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Good points! This draft might be lining up DT/IDL need with BPA in round 2. The urgency for to draft QBs, LTs, Edge Rushers, WRs, DBs tend to push talented DTs and RBs into round 2 and 3. That wouldn't suck. The important question needed to be answered here - is the FO and scouting dept good at drafting DTs? Remains to be seen heading into their 4th draft.
Good points! This draft might be lining up DT/IDL need with BPA in round 2. The urgency for to draft QBs, LTs, Edge Rushers, WRs, DBs tend to push talented DTs and RBs into round 2 and 3. That wouldn't suck. The important question needed to be answered here - is the FO and scouting dept good at drafting DTs? Remains to be seen heading into their 4th draft.
Not only that, are rookie DT's able to make as much of an impact as we might want or would we be better off from a needs standpoint to look for a FA DT?
Not only that, are rookie DT's able to make as much of an impact as we might want or would we be better off from a needs standpoint to look for a FA DT?
Based on the types of DTs Berry has drafted, it might not be a bad idea. However, the problem with counting on too many veteran players drafted by other teams is they have a much higher cost against the cap. Before the NFL just increased the salary cap, the Browns were one of the teams with the least amount to spend. Not a good thing if you're only 7-10 counting on that.
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Kinda wish Berry would quit his age guardrails way of thinking, when it comes down to deciding on a few draft players.. here's the latest update.. Pre-Combine (Thanks Jack Duffy)
Green - Ideal Fit
Yellow - Okay Fit
Red - Unlikely Fit
Grey - No Age Data Available
I wouldn't even count out trading a multi rounded (4th/5th) Browns pick..to trade for a player with some upside (did with rams to get Troy Hill)
A possible positions chart we may target.. Deaton might be that backup C or G ?
way to early, and
GRANT SR., JAKEEM U/Chi has a accepted a new deal ENJOY your Combine viewing ! ? starts today 3:00 pm
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
2023 Combine schedule: https://www.nfl.com/news/2023-nfl-scouting-combine-dates-times-location-how-to-watch-and-more
NFL Network will have more than 50 hours of live coverage of the this year's event, beginning March 2. Here's the day-by-day schedule:
- March 2 (3 p.m. to 8 p.m. ET): DL, LB
- March 3 (3 p.m. to 8 p.m. ET): DB, PK/ST
- March 4 (1 p.m. to 8 p.m. ET): QB, WR, TE
- March 5 (1 p.m. to 7 p.m. ET): OL, RB
- Of interest to me is how well RB Devon Achane does since he has run a 100m less than half a second off the world record. If he's around for the 3rd he'd be an interesting pick should we let any RBs go during FA. However if he kills the combine, he'll be long gone before the 3rd just based on that and what he did to LSU alone after coming back from 2 1/2 games off due to injury. 218 yds and two TDs.
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We'll be on and taking a long look between 2021 and 2022 at Texas IDL Keondre Coburn, should anyone wish to follow along on The Browns Board discord channel.
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Kinda wish Berry would quit his age guardrails way of thinking, when it comes down to deciding on a few draft players.. here's the latest update.. Pre-Combine (Thanks Jack Duffy)
Green - Ideal Fit
Yellow - Okay Fit
Red - Unlikely Fit
Grey - No Age Data Available
I wouldn't even count out trading a multi rounded (4th/5th) Browns pick..to trade for a player with some upside (did with rams to get Troy Hill)
A possible positions chart we may target.. Deaton might be that backup C or G ?
way to early, and
GRANT SR., JAKEEM U/Chi has a accepted a new deal ENJOY your Combine viewing ! ? starts today 3:00 pm
Kinda wish Berry would quit his age guardrails way of thinking, when it comes down to deciding on a few draft players.. here's the latest update.. Pre-Combine (Thanks Jack Duffy)
Green - Ideal Fit
Yellow - Okay Fit
Red - Unlikely Fit
Grey - No Age Data Available
I wouldn't even count out trading a multi rounded (4th/5th) Browns pick..to trade for a player with some upside (did with rams to get Troy Hill)
A possible positions chart we may target.. Deaton might be that backup C or G ?
way to early, and
GRANT SR., JAKEEM U/Chi has a accepted a new deal ENJOY your Combine viewing ! ? starts today 3:00 pm
looks like a deep draft.
Jherzson Newton DT Illinois. Don’t see him on the list he’s worth a look.
Keaton Mitchell or Mo Ibrahim RB I’d snag either if they are there in the 6th.
Rakim Jarrett WR
Edit: Newton is back in School- keep an eye on him on 2024.
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So could he help the Browns as a 3rd rounder (and yes he has hands out of the backfield or in the slot too)? "He's got world class speed!" And yes it was the turning point in a come from way behind 41-38 win on a FG as time expired.
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Yahoo Sports - March 1, 2023
Arrest warrant No. 1 NFL potential pick. Jalen Carter
An arrest warrant has been issued for potential No. 1 NFL draft pick Jalen Carter for his alleged role in a January traffic crash that killed a teammate and a recruiting staffer for the University of Georgia.
The Georgia defensive lineman is wanted on a charge of reckless driving and racing by the Athens-Clarke County Police Department after an investigation found that Carter was allegedly street racing with Chandler LeCroy on Jan. 15. Both LeCroy, a Georgia staffer, and Georgia offensive lineman Devin Willock were killed when the Ford Expedition LeCroy was driving left the road at a high rate of speed and hit two telephone poles. Two other occupants of LeCroy’s vehicle were injured.
From the Athens-Clarke County Police:
“The investigation found that Chandler LeCroy, driver of the 2021 Ford Expedition and Jalen Carter, driver of a 2021 Jeep Trackhawk, were operating their vehicles in a manner consistent with racing shortly after leaving the downtown Athens area at about 2:30 a.m. The evidence demonstrated that both vehicles switched between lanes, drove in the center turn lane, drove in opposite lanes of travel, overtook other motorists and drove at high rates of speed in an apparent attempt to outdistance each other. Evidence indicated that shortly before the crash the Expedition was traveling at about 104 miles per hour. The toxicology report indicated that Leroy’s blood alcohol concentration was .197 at the time of the crash. Investigators determined that alcohol impairment, racing, reckless driving and speed were significant contributing factors to the crash.”
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Watching some all-22 from the Eagles defense against the Pats in the Super bowl. Noticing some themes.
- Similarities in alignment with of the edge players between Woods and Schwartz. The ends get WIDE. 7 and 9 spots then scream off the edge.
- Base Over calls for the most part - 3tech to TE or called strength.
Biggest Differences - LB size and downhill trigger. Then I went back 10 years.
Lions - Stephen Tulloch 6'0, 245lbs.
Bills - Preston Brown 6'1, 250lbs
Eagles - Nigel Bradham (brought over from BUF) 6'2 241lbs
Eagles - Jordan Hicks, 6'1 238lbs.
This man doesn't abide by small, 210lb backers. He wants to invite running between the tackles and then meet your invitation with downhill size and aggressiveness from the LB's. Only starter on the Browns roster that even sniffed 240lbs was Taki. What are the chances he ends up getting the green dot in the off-season? If not, I can see the Browns looking at late(r) round LB's. Although I do see his flexibility with a player like Malcolm Jenkins as a dime backer. I wonder if Young JOK could ever be disciplined enough in coverage to fill that type of roll?
Add LB's to the list of positions this team and the front office will be taking long looks at. Especially consider the starting MIKE backers under Schwartz have all been 3rd round picks or later. (Only one in the top 75)
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Yahoo Sports - March 1, 2023
Arrest warrant No. 1 NFL potential pick. Jalen Carter
An arrest warrant has been issued for potential No. 1 NFL draft pick Jalen Carter for his alleged role in a January traffic crash that killed a teammate and a recruiting staffer for the University of Georgia.
The Georgia defensive lineman is wanted on a charge of reckless driving and racing by the Athens-Clarke County Police Department after an investigation found that Carter was allegedly street racing with Chandler LeCroy on Jan. 15. Both LeCroy, a Georgia staffer, and Georgia offensive lineman Devin Willock were killed when the Ford Expedition LeCroy was driving left the road at a high rate of speed and hit two telephone poles. Two other occupants of LeCroy’s vehicle were injured.
From the Athens-Clarke County Police:
“The investigation found that Chandler LeCroy, driver of the 2021 Ford Expedition and Jalen Carter, driver of a 2021 Jeep Trackhawk, were operating their vehicles in a manner consistent with racing shortly after leaving the downtown Athens area at about 2:30 a.m. The evidence demonstrated that both vehicles switched between lanes, drove in the center turn lane, drove in opposite lanes of travel, overtook other motorists and drove at high rates of speed in an apparent attempt to outdistance each other. Evidence indicated that shortly before the crash the Expedition was traveling at about 104 miles per hour. The toxicology report indicated that Leroy’s blood alcohol concentration was .197 at the time of the crash. Investigators determined that alcohol impairment, racing, reckless driving and speed were significant contributing factors to the crash.”
Yahoo Sports - March 1, 2023
Arrest warrant No. 1 NFL potential pick. Jalen Carter
An arrest warrant has been issued for potential No. 1 NFL draft pick Jalen Carter for his alleged role in a January traffic crash that killed a teammate and a recruiting staffer for the University of Georgia.
This is one helluva development for the 2023 NFL Draft.
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Yahoo Sports - March 1, 2023
Arrest warrant No. 1 NFL potential pick. Jalen Carter
An arrest warrant has been issued for potential No. 1 NFL draft pick Jalen Carter for his alleged role in a January traffic crash that killed a teammate and a recruiting staffer for the University of Georgia.
The Georgia defensive lineman is wanted on a charge of reckless driving and racing by the Athens-Clarke County Police Department after an investigation found that Carter was allegedly street racing with Chandler LeCroy on Jan. 15. Both LeCroy, a Georgia staffer, and Georgia offensive lineman Devin Willock were killed when the Ford Expedition LeCroy was driving left the road at a high rate of speed and hit two telephone poles. Two other occupants of LeCroy’s vehicle were injured.
From the Athens-Clarke County Police:
“The investigation found that Chandler LeCroy, driver of the 2021 Ford Expedition and Jalen Carter, driver of a 2021 Jeep Trackhawk, were operating their vehicles in a manner consistent with racing shortly after leaving the downtown Athens area at about 2:30 a.m. The evidence demonstrated that both vehicles switched between lanes, drove in the center turn lane, drove in opposite lanes of travel, overtook other motorists and drove at high rates of speed in an apparent attempt to outdistance each other. Evidence indicated that shortly before the crash the Expedition was traveling at about 104 miles per hour. The toxicology report indicated that Leroy’s blood alcohol concentration was .197 at the time of the crash. Investigators determined that alcohol impairment, racing, reckless driving and speed were significant contributing factors to the crash.”
Yahoo Sports - March 1, 2023
Arrest warrant No. 1 NFL potential pick. Jalen Carter
An arrest warrant has been issued for potential No. 1 NFL draft pick Jalen Carter for his alleged role in a January traffic crash that killed a teammate and a recruiting staffer for the University of Georgia.
The Georgia defensive lineman is wanted on a charge of reckless driving and racing by the Athens-Clarke County Police Department after an investigation found that Carter was allegedly street racing with Chandler LeCroy on Jan. 15. Both LeCroy, a Georgia staffer, and Georgia offensive lineman Devin Willock were killed when the Ford Expedition LeCroy was driving left the road at a high rate of speed and hit two telephone poles. Two other occupants of LeCroy’s vehicle were injured.
From the Athens-Clarke County Police:
“The investigation found that Chandler LeCroy, driver of the 2021 Ford Expedition and Jalen Carter, driver of a 2021 Jeep Trackhawk, were operating their vehicles in a manner consistent with racing shortly after leaving the downtown Athens area at about 2:30 a.m. The evidence demonstrated that both vehicles switched between lanes, drove in the center turn lane, drove in opposite lanes of travel, overtook other motorists and drove at high rates of speed in an apparent attempt to outdistance each other. Evidence indicated that shortly before the crash the Expedition was traveling at about 104 miles per hour. The toxicology report indicated that Leroy’s blood alcohol concentration was .197 at the time of the crash. Investigators determined that alcohol impairment, racing, reckless driving and speed were significant contributing factors to the crash.”
RIGHT NOW - Wednesday pm,
Right now, it’s unclear exactly if teams knew the arrest warrant was coming this morning, but it does seem to have at least caught the NFL combine a bit off guard. Following the announcement of the arrest warrant against Carter, the podium interviews with the other defensive linemen present in Indianapolis came to a pause and Carter never appeared at his podium session with reporters.
We're still early in the process of figuring out exactly what role Carter played in the crash back in January. But this is the slimier part of the NFL business that viewers should be acutely aware of by now. If a player is talented enough at what they do, sins of the past can be forgotten. On the sliding scale of acts that cause NFL prospects to fall down draft boards, two misdemeanors for a prospect that profiles as a future All-Pro at his position can get ignored fairly easily.
Assuming the police’s accounts of the events are true, then this appears to be a tragic incident that was totally avoidable. That also doesn’t necessarily mean Carter's draft stock will tank.
Have some grace for the young people that lost their lives, but don’t be surprised if Carter still hears his name called early in the 2023 draft proceedings. The NFL is still the NFL.
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Kinda wish Berry would quit his age guardrails way of thinking, when it comes down to deciding on a few draft players.. here's the latest update.. Pre-Combine (Thanks Jack Duffy)
Green - Ideal Fit
Yellow - Okay Fit
Red - Unlikely Fit
Grey - No Age Data Available
I wouldn't even count out trading a multi rounded (4th/5th) Browns pick..to trade for a player with some upside (did with rams to get Troy Hill)
A possible positions chart we may target.. Deaton might be that backup C or G ?
way to early, and
GRANT SR., JAKEEM U/Chi has a accepted a new deal ENJOY your Combine viewing ! ? starts today 3:00 pm
looks like a deep draft.
Jherzson Newton DT Illinois. Don’t see him on the list he’s worth a look.
Keaton Mitchell or Mo Ibrahim RB I’d snag either if they are there in the 6th.
Rakim Jarrett WR
Edit: Newton is back in School- keep an eye on him on 2024.
looks like a deep draft.
Jherzson Newton DT Illinois. Don’t see him on the list he’s worth a look.
Keaton Mitchell/// RB I’d snag either if they are there in the 6th.
It should be interesting to see what DT's gets to us.. Rotational & fair depth maybe all that's left? Gotta grab a FA too/imo
I'm part of a group, that can walk to ECU games.. I've seen you mention Keaton Mitchell before..
Key should show some good quick's of another Pirate RB named Chris Johnson at times.. Key's field vision is excellent in a RPO offense.. He's gotta learn.. ball security will get him benched in the NFL.. I'll follow Key wherever he ends up.. big fan !
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Watching some all-22 from the Eagles defense against the Pats in the Super bowl. Noticing some themes.
- Similarities in alignment with of the edge players between Woods and Schwartz. The ends get WIDE. 7 and 9 spots then scream off the edge.
- Base Over calls for the most part - 3tech to TE or called strength.
Biggest Differences - LB size and downhill trigger. Then I went back 10 years.
Lions - Stephen Tulloch 6'0, 245lbs.
Bills - Preston Brown 6'1, 250lbs
Eagles - Nigel Bradham (brought over from BUF) 6'2 241lbs
Eagles - Jordan Hicks, 6'1 238lbs.
This man doesn't abide by small, 210lb backers. He wants to invite running between the tackles and then meet your invitation with downhill size and aggressiveness from the LB's. Only starter on the Browns roster that even sniffed 240lbs was Taki. What are the chances he ends up getting the green dot in the off-season? If not, I can see the Browns looking at late(r) round LB's. Although I do see his flexibility with a player like Malcolm Jenkins as a dime backer. I wonder if Young JOK could ever be disciplined enough in coverage to fill that type of roll?
Add LB's to the list of positions this team and the front office will be taking long looks at. Especially consider the starting MIKE backers under Schwartz have all been 3rd round picks or later. (Only one in the top 75)
Biggest Differences - LB size and downhill trigger. Then I went back 10 years.
Lions - Stephen Tulloch 6'0, 245lbs.
Add LB's to the list of positions this team and the front office will be taking long looks at. Especially consider the starting MIKE backers under Schwartz have all been 3rd round picks or later. (Only one in the top 75)
What's your opinion on another former 3rd round pick ?
Possible Lions FA? Alex Anzalone/age 28 .. I just love the guys motor/effort since with the Saints. more so, Alex may fit our tight cap budget?
He's played some Mike at 6'3" 235-240lbs. is what I've seen.. Is Anzalone a better option than Taki/Walker in your opinion?
thanks..peek back in after work.. (I'm thinking.. Dan Campbell will pound the table to keep his type of craz'ed ball hawk)
EDIT-- Dudes, I'll be on a long tape delay on combine work-outs.. I'm only 4 days into a 2 week material count at work to start a new pay plan ?(timing sucks).. My Boss/count'ee (prick) is a Egotistical, Power & Control freak...It's not going well, to my hand counts ! I'm turning age 60 the day the Browns go on the clock.. At age 62.. I will retire from these freaks at midnight of my birthday
Enjoy ! Go Browns ! ( get it right ! )
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
looks like a deep draft.
Jherzson Newton DT Illinois. Don’t see him on the list he’s worth a look.
Keaton Mitchell/// RB I’d snag either if they are there in the 6th.
It should be interesting to see what DT's gets to us.. Rotational & fair depth maybe all that's left? Gotta grab a FA too/imo
I'm part of a group, that can walk to ECU games.. I've seen you mention Keaton Mitchell before..
Key should show some good quick's of another Pirate RB named Chris Johnson at times.. Key's field vision is excellent in a RPO offense.. He's gotta learn.. ball security will get him benched in the NFL.. I'll follow Key wherever he ends up.. big fan !
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Biggest Differences - LB size and downhill trigger. Then I went back 10 years.
Lions - Stephen Tulloch 6'0, 245lbs.
Add LB's to the list of positions this team and the front office will be taking long looks at. Especially consider the starting MIKE backers under Schwartz have all been 3rd round picks or later. (Only one in the top 75)
What's your opinion on another former 3rd round pick ?
Possible Lions FA? Alex Anzalone/age 28 .. I just love the guys motor/effort since with the Saints. more so, Alex may fit our tight cap budget?
He's played some Mike at 6'3" 235-240lbs. is what I've seen.. Is Anzalone a better option than Taki/Walker in your opinion?
thanks..peek back in after work.. (I'm thinking.. Dan Campbell will pound the table to keep his type of craz'ed ball hawk)
EDIT-- Dudes, I'll be on a long tape delay on combine work-outs.. I'm only 4 days into a 2 week material count at work to start a new pay plan ?(timing sucks).. My Boss/count'ee (prick) is a Egotistical, Power & Control freak...It's not going well, to my hand counts ! I'm turning age 60 the day the Browns go on the clock.. At age 62.. I will retire from these freaks at midnight of my birthday
Enjoy ! Go Browns ! ( get it right ! )
My Boss/count'ee (prick) is a Egotistical, Power & Control freak...It's not going well, to my hand counts ! I'm turning age 60 the day the Browns go on the clock.. At age 62.. I will retire from these freaks at midnight of my birthday
Enjoy ! Go Browns ! ( get it right ! )
I had one of those with the plan to retire on my 62nd, but I just could not stand it any longer and had enough time and lots of IRAs set aside so out I went out on my 61st. Best mental health decision I ever made.?
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Biggest Differences - LB size and downhill trigger. Then I went back 10 years.
Lions - Stephen Tulloch 6'0, 245lbs.
Add LB's to the list of positions this team and the front office will be taking long looks at. Especially consider the starting MIKE backers under Schwartz have all been 3rd round picks or later. (Only one in the top 75)
What's your opinion on another former 3rd round pick ?
Possible Lions FA? Alex Anzalone/age 28 .. I just love the guys motor/effort since with the Saints. more so, Alex may fit our tight cap budget?
He's played some Mike at 6'3" 235-240lbs. is what I've seen.. Is Anzalone a better option than Taki/Walker in your opinion?
thanks..peek back in after work.. (I'm thinking.. Dan Campbell will pound the table to keep his type of craz'ed ball hawk)
EDIT-- Dudes, I'll be on a long tape delay on combine work-outs.. I'm only 4 days into a 2 week material count at work to start a new pay plan ?(timing sucks).. My Boss/count'ee (prick) is a Egotistical, Power & Control freak...It's not going well, to my hand counts ! I'm turning age 60 the day the Browns go on the clock.. At age 62.. I will retire from these freaks at midnight of my birthday
Enjoy ! Go Browns ! ( get it right ! )
What's your opinion on another former 3rd round pick ?
Possible Lions FA? Alex Anzalone/age 28 .. I just love the guys motor/effort since with the Saints. more so, Alex may fit our tight cap budget?
He's played some Mike at 6'3" 235-240lbs. is what I've seen.. Is Anzalone a better option than Taki/Walker in your opinion?
Like you said, motor and effort. He seemed to have (by his standards at least) a pretty good season in Detroit.
His name, along with a few others like Denzel Perryman, Dylan Cole, and Zach Cunningham are on my free agent watch list.
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