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Thank you to the Haslem's for smoothing the path to a Chiefs dynasty

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @pat-mahomo said:

    In HINDSIGHT...If Cleveland was just going to end up with pick 12 anyhow, you guys would be at least in striking distance to try and move up for one of the 4 who are going top 10 this year.  Given the very strong trend of taking a rookie QB, on a cheap contract and building a talented roster.....Cleveland is zigging when most are zagging.  

    The Browns tried that too.

    His name was Baker Mayfield. He's currently searching for his third team in less than a calendar year. 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    The Browns tried that too.

    His name was Baker Mayfield. He's currently searching for his third team in less than a calendar year. 

    The interesting thing is the same FO guy (Dorsey) that drafted Baker was working in the FO for the Chiefs when they drafted Mahomes.  One guy went to Andy Reid and sat his rookie year (watching Alex Smith lead KC to the playoffs) while the other went to Hue Jackson (sporting a 1-31 record at the time of the selection).  Early on Baker showed some promise. Today, he's right where Dutch says he is.  

    Where we at today?  Hoping the only massage Watson gets from here on out is from some 300 pound pottymouth Shakespeare named Bruno...  

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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       Wherever I may go in life, if I ever find myself trolling obscure NFL message boards of teams I'm not even a fan of past midnight as a middle aged man, you guys have my full permission to put me out of my misery.  

       Because at that point it means you pretty much have nothing to say worth listening to. 

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      • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

        The Chiefs have won two Super Bowls in the last four years. 

        Karma what? This troll could go the rest of his life with the Chiefs never winning another Super Bowl, and he'll still end up with two more Super Bowl titles than any of us will ever get... ?

        WE are the ones apparently suffering from some kind of "We pissed the Universe off" situation.  

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        F FY56 wrote on last edited by
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        @dutch-oven said:

        The Chiefs have won two Super Bowls in the last four years. 

        Karma what? This troll could go the rest of his life with the Chiefs never winning another Super Bowl, and he'll still end up with two more Super Bowl titles than any of us will ever get... ?

        WE are the ones apparently suffering from some kind of "We pissed the Universe off" situation.  

        Um...4 NFL Championships and 4 AAFC Titles since Gipper isn't here to remind you.

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          F FY56 wrote on last edited by
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          We're still getting bashed for the Watson deal.

          Haslam apparently put his former team the Squeelers in a better situation as well.

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          • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

            @pat-mahomo said:

            In HINDSIGHT...If Cleveland was just going to end up with pick 12 anyhow, you guys would be at least in striking distance to try and move up for one of the 4 who are going top 10 this year.  Given the very strong trend of taking a rookie QB, on a cheap contract and building a talented roster.....Cleveland is zigging when most are zagging.  

            The Browns tried that too.

            His name was Baker Mayfield. He's currently searching for his third team in less than a calendar year. 

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            F FY56 wrote on last edited by
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            @dutch-oven said:

            The Browns tried that too.

            His name was Baker Mayfield. He's currently searching for his third team in less than a calendar year. 

            We didn't move up to draft Mayfield. We had the first pick.

            We moved up to draft Manziel. 

            Regardless...

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              @dutch-oven said:

              The Browns tried that too.

              His name was Baker Mayfield. He's currently searching for his third team in less than a calendar year. 

              We didn't move up to draft Mayfield. We had the first pick.

              We moved up to draft Manziel. 

              Regardless...

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              FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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              @fy56 said:

              We didn't move up to draft Mayfield. We had the first pick.

              We moved up to draft Manziel. 

              Regardless...

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              Don't forget, the guy that drafted Baker Mayfield here (John Dorsey) was in the Chiefs FO the year they drafted Patrick Mahomes. That same year (2017), someone else only had to use one 1st round draft pick to take Deshaun Watson and sign him under the rookie salary cap restrictions.   FWIW, we had the 1st pick overall that year.  As much as Myles Garrett is an elite DE/pass rusher for the Browns - the era we're in shows us how important the QB is to where his team finishes.  

              I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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                We should be piled on...it was a dumb contract.

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                  We should be piled on...it was a dumb contract.

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                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                  @kvoethe said:

                  We should be piled on...it was a dumb contract.

                  That’s been my gut feeling from day one.

                  I really hope I’m wrong.

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                    @fy56 said:

                    We didn't move up to draft Mayfield. We had the first pick.

                    We moved up to draft Manziel. 

                    Regardless...

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                    Don't forget, the guy that drafted Baker Mayfield here (John Dorsey) was in the Chiefs FO the year they drafted Patrick Mahomes. That same year (2017), someone else only had to use one 1st round draft pick to take Deshaun Watson and sign him under the rookie salary cap restrictions.   FWIW, we had the 1st pick overall that year.  As much as Myles Garrett is an elite DE/pass rusher for the Browns - the era we're in shows us how important the QB is to where his team finishes.  

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                    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                    @flugel said:

                    Don't forget, the guy that drafted Baker Mayfield here (John Dorsey) was in the Chiefs FO the year they drafted Patrick Mahomes. That same year (2017), someone else only had to use one 1st round draft pick to take Deshaun Watson and sign him under the rookie salary cap restrictions.   FWIW, we had the 1st pick overall that year.  As much as Myles Garrett is an elite DE/pass rusher for the Browns - the era we're in shows us how important the QB is to where his team finishes.  

                    Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

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                      @flugel said:

                      Don't forget, the guy that drafted Baker Mayfield here (John Dorsey) was in the Chiefs FO the year they drafted Patrick Mahomes. That same year (2017), someone else only had to use one 1st round draft pick to take Deshaun Watson and sign him under the rookie salary cap restrictions.   FWIW, we had the 1st pick overall that year.  As much as Myles Garrett is an elite DE/pass rusher for the Browns - the era we're in shows us how important the QB is to where his team finishes.  

                      Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

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                      @nickers said:

                      Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

                      We will see if Schwartz gets the most out of him. I'd say he's kind of under achieved in general, but I'm glad he's here and not with a division rival.

                      Myles is a freakish talent that teams game plan for, ask Joe Burrow lol. He's thwarted many a Bengal drive in his career with strip sacks. 

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                        @flugel said:

                        Don't forget, the guy that drafted Baker Mayfield here (John Dorsey) was in the Chiefs FO the year they drafted Patrick Mahomes. That same year (2017), someone else only had to use one 1st round draft pick to take Deshaun Watson and sign him under the rookie salary cap restrictions.   FWIW, we had the 1st pick overall that year.  As much as Myles Garrett is an elite DE/pass rusher for the Browns - the era we're in shows us how important the QB is to where his team finishes.  

                        Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

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                        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                        @nickers said:

                        Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

                        I like having Myles but it seems like QBs have a bigger say in how far their teams go than edge rushers.  TJ Watt makes his team way better as we saw their winning percentage improve; but a rookie QB with a learning curve and some growing pains (as well as Trubisky getting demoted to Broom Closet Security) threw that team in park instead of playoffs. 

                        I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                          @flugel said:

                          Don't forget, the guy that drafted Baker Mayfield here (John Dorsey) was in the Chiefs FO the year they drafted Patrick Mahomes. That same year (2017), someone else only had to use one 1st round draft pick to take Deshaun Watson and sign him under the rookie salary cap restrictions.   FWIW, we had the 1st pick overall that year.  As much as Myles Garrett is an elite DE/pass rusher for the Browns - the era we're in shows us how important the QB is to where his team finishes.  

                          Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

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                          @nickers said:

                          Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

                          you mean like this nickers edit:and for you dummies just click on Watch on YouTube

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                            @flugel said:

                            Don't forget, the guy that drafted Baker Mayfield here (John Dorsey) was in the Chiefs FO the year they drafted Patrick Mahomes. That same year (2017), someone else only had to use one 1st round draft pick to take Deshaun Watson and sign him under the rookie salary cap restrictions.   FWIW, we had the 1st pick overall that year.  As much as Myles Garrett is an elite DE/pass rusher for the Browns - the era we're in shows us how important the QB is to where his team finishes.  

                            Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

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                            @nickers said:

                            Garrett makes 0 impact on this team... He is rarely responsible for being a part of the teams victories or lack there of... Yes he makes plays but they only add to his stats.... Part of that is coaching... But another part of that is on him... I'm not saying he's not good...  I'm just saying hie rarely makes impact...

                            here ya go

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                              We're still getting bashed for the Watson deal.

                              Haslam apparently put his former team the Squeelers in a better situation as well.

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                              @fy56 said:

                              We're still getting bashed for the Watson deal.

                              Haslam apparently put his former team the Squeelers in a better situation as well.

                              Meanwhile Danny Dimes got 4yrs 160M

                              Geno Smith 3yr 75M

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