~ ? April 27-29, 2023 the 88th NFL Draft & chat ? ​​​​​​​ <- right here --< BEARS DEAL 1st pick !

[mjp28]

And.  ?   a few more roster places to go over and fill in before too long.

Current roster

Cleveland Browns rostalkedit

Quarterbacks

•  8 Kellen Mond
•  4 Deshaun Watson

Running backs

• 24 Nick Chubb
• 25 Demetric Felton
• 34 Jerome Ford

Wide receivers

• 18 David Bell
•  2 Amari Cooper
• 16 Jaelon Darden
•  9 Jakeem Grant
• 11 Donovan Peoples-Jones
• 10 Anthony Schwartz
• 12 Michael Woods II

Tight ends

• 88 Harrison Bryant
• 85 David Njoku

  Offensive linemen

• 75 Joel Bitonio G
• 78 Jack Conklin T
• 52 Dawson Deaton C
• 79 Drew Forbes G
• 53 Nick Harris C
• 59 Joe Haeg T
• 66 James Hudson T
• 77 Wyatt Teller G
• 71 Jedrick Wills T

Defensive linemen

• 96 Jordan Elliott DT
• 95 Myles Garrett DE
• 58 Isaiah Thomas DE
• 93 Tommy Togiai DT
• 97 Perrion Winfrey DT
• 94 Alex Wright DE

  Linebackers

• 42 Tony Fields II OLB
• 28 Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah OLB
• 50 Jacob Phillips MLB

Defensive backs

• 37 D'Anthony Bell FS
• 22 Grant Delpit SS
• 23 Martin Emerson CB
• 43 John Johnson FS
• 20 Greg Newsome II CB
• 21 Denzel Ward CB

Special teams

• 13 Corey Bojorquez P
• 47 Charley Hughlett LS
•  3 Cade York K

[Korsou Dawg]

Putting in the work early @mjp28? Appreciated!

[nickers]

Fuck the Draft... I don't even care this year... Another draft full of special teamers on tap...

[mjp28]

And Rounds  2, 3 and 4  of the PD [ Pre Draft ] picks.    ★ Some involving the Cleveland BROWNS football team.

Trades involving draft picks

In the explanations below (PD) indicates trades completed prior to the start of the draft (i.e. Pre–Draft), while (D) denotes trades that took place during the 2023 draft.

Round 2

• Baltimore → Chicago (PD). Chicago traded LB Roquan Smith to Baltimore in exchange for LB A. J. Klein along with a second-round selection and a fifth-round selection.^{[Trade 7]}
• Chicago → Pittsburgh (PD). Chicago traded their second-round selection to Pittsburgh in exchange for wide receiver Chase Claypool.^{[Trade 8]}
• Denver → Seattle (PD). See Round 1: Denver → Seattle.^{[Trade 2]}
• Minnesota → Detroit (PD). Minnesota traded a second-round selection and 2024 third-round selection to Detroit in exchange for tight end T. J. Hockenson, a fourth-round selection and a conditional 2024 fourth-round selection.^{[Trade 9]}
• San Francisco → Carolina (PD). Carolina received second, third, and fourth round picks and a 2024 fifth round pick in exchange for running back Christian McCaffrey.^{[Trade 10]}

★  Round 3

• Carolina → New England (PD). New England received a third round pick and a 2022 fourth round pick (#137), in exchange for a 2022 third round pick (#94).^{[Trade 11]}
• ★ Cleveland → Houston (PD). See Round 1: Cleveland → Houston.^{[Trade 1]}
• Indianapolis → Denver (PD) Indianapolis traded this pick and its 2022 fifth-round selection (#179) for a third-round selection in the 2022 draft (#96).^{[Trade 12]}
• Kansas City → N.Y. Giants (PD). New York traded WR Kadarius Toney to Kansas City in exchange for a third-round compensatory selection and a sixth-round selection.^{[Trade 13]}
• New England → Miami (PD). Miami received a third round pick in exchange for DeVante Parker and a 2022 fifth round pick (#158).^{[Trade 14]}
• San Francisco → Carolina (PD). See Round 2: San Francisco → Carolina.^{[Trade 10]}
• Washington → Indianapolis (PD). Washington traded a conditional third-round selection and 2022 second and third-round selections to Indianapolis in exchange for quarterback Carson Wentz, and 2022 second- and seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 15]}

★  Round 4

• Detroit → Minnesota (PD). See Round 2: Minnesota → Detroit.^{[Trade 9]}
• L.A. Rams → New England (PD). Los Angeles traded a fourth-round selection and a 2022 sixth-round selection to New England in exchange for running back Sony Michel.^{[Trade 16]}
• Miami → Kansas City (PD). Miami traded fourth and sixth-round selections and 2022 first, second, and fourth-round selections to Kansas City in exchange for wide receiver Tyreek Hill.^{[Trade 17]}
• ★ Minnesota →  ★ Cleveland (PD). Minnesota traded a fourth-round selection and a 2022 fifth-round selection to Cleveland in exchange for a 2022 fourth-round selection.^{[Trade 18]}
• Philadelphia → Chicago (PD). Chicago traded DE Robert Quinn to Philadelphia in exchange for a fourth-round selection.^{[Trade 19]}
• San Francisco → Carolina (PD). See Round 2: San Francisco → Carolina.^{[Trade 10]}
• Tampa Bay → Jacksonville (PD). Tampa Bay traded a fourth-round selection to Jacksonville in exchange for 2022 fifth (#157) and seventh-round (#235) selections.^{[Trade 20]}
• Tennessee → Atlanta (PD). Tennessee traded a fourth-round selection as well as a 2022 second-round selection to Atlanta in exchange for wide receiver Julio Jones and a sixth-round selection.^{[Trade 21]}

[mjp28]

And the Rounds  5, 6 and 7  of the PD picks.      ★  Some involving the Cleveland BROWNS football team.

Trades involving draft picks

In the explanations below (PD) indicates trades completed prior to the start of the draft (i.e. Pre–Draft), while (D) denotes trades that took place during the 

★  Round 5

• Arizona → Buffalo (PD). Arizona traded a fifth-round selection to Buffalo in exchange for OL Cody Ford.^{[Trade 22]}
• Atlanta → Las Vegas (PD). Atlanta traded a fifth-round selection to Las Vegas in exchange for WR Bryan Edwards and a seventh-round pick.^{[Trade 23]}
• Baltimore → Chicago (PD). See Round 2: Baltimore → Chicago.^{[Trade 7]}
• ★  L.A. Rams →  ★ Cleveland (PD). Los Angeles traded a fifth-round selection to Cleveland in exchange for cornerback Troy Hill. ^{[Trade 24]}
• Miami → San Francisco (PD). Miami traded a fifth-round selection to San Francisco in exchange for running back Jeff Wilson.^{[Trade 25]}
• New England → Baltimore (PD). New England traded a fifth-round selection and a 2022 seventh-round selection to Baltimore in exchange for cornerback Shaun Wade.^{[Trade 26]}
• Philadelphia → New Orleans (PD). Philadelphia traded a fifth-round selection and a 2024 sixth-round pick to New Orleans in exchange for safety C. J. Gardner-Johnson and a 2025 seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 27]}
• Pittsburgh → Seattle (PD). Pittsburgh traded a fifth-round selection to Seattle in exchange for cornerback Ahkello Witherspoon.^{[Trade 28]}

Round 6

• Atlanta → Tennessee (PD). See Round 4: Tennessee → Atlanta.^{[Trade 21]}
• Buffalo → Indianapolis (PD). Buffalo traded a conditional sixth-round selection and running back Zack Moss to Indianapolis in exchange for running back Nyheim Hines.^{[Trade 29]}
• Carolina → New England (PD). Carolina traded a sixth-round selection to New England for cornerback Stephon Gilmore.^{[Trade 30]}
• Chicago → Miami (PD). Chicago traded a sixth-round selection to Miami for wide receiver Jakeem Grant.^{[Trade 31]}
• Dallas → Las Vegas (PD). Dallas traded a sixth-round selection to Las Vegas for defensive tackle Johnathan Hankins and a 2024 seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 32]}
• Denver → Detroit (PD). Denver traded Trinity Benson and a 2023 sixth-round pick to Detroit for a 2022 fifth-round selection and a 2022 seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 33]}
• Green Bay → L.A. Rams (PD). Green Bay traded a sixth-round selection to Los Angeles in exchange for punter Corey Bojorquez and a seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 34]}
• Houston → N.Y. Jets (PD). Houston traded a sixth-round selection to New York in exchange for linebacker Blake Cashman.^{[Trade 35]}
• Indianapolis → Tampa Bay (PD). Indianapolis traded a sixth-round pick to Tampa Bay for linebacker Grant Stuard and a seventh-round pick.^{[Trade 36]}
• Jacksonville → Atlanta (PD). Jacksonville traded a conditional sixth-round selection and a conditional 2024 fourth-round selection to Atlanta in exchange for wide receiver Calvin Ridley. The 2023 pick can become a fifth-rounder if Ridley is reinstated. The 2024 pick becomes a third-rounder based on playing time and can become a second-round pick if he signs a long-term extension.^{[Trade 37]}
• Kansas City → N.Y. Giants (PD). See Round 3: N.Y. Giants → Kansas City.^{[Trade 13]}
• Las Vegas → New England (PD). Las Vegas traded a sixth-round selection to New England in exchange for quarterback Jarrett Stidham and a seventh round pick.^{[Trade 38]}
• L.A. Chargers → Chicago (PD). Los Angeles traded a sixth-round selection as well as a 2022 second-round selection to Chicago in exchange for outside linebacker Khalil Mack.^{[Trade 39]} Chicago traded the sixth-round selection back to Los Angeles for two 2022 seventh-round picks. See No. 254: L.A. Chargers → Chicago.^{[Trade 40]}
• Miami → Kansas City (PD). See Round 4: Miami → Kansas City.^{[Trade 17]}
• Minnesota → Houston (PD). Minnesota traded a sixth-round selection to Houston in exchange for defensive end Ross Blacklock and a seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 41]}
• New Orleans → Houston (PD). New Orleans traded a conditional sixth-round selection and a 2022 third-round selection to Houston in exchange for cornerback Bradley Roby.^{[Trade 42]}
• N.Y. Giants → Houston (PD). New York traded a sixth-round selection to Houston in exchange for cornerback Keion Crossen.^{[Trade 43]}
• N.Y. Jets → Jacksonville (PD). The Jets traded a sixth-round selection to Jacksonville in exchange for running back James Robinson. It will be the higher of the two sixth-round picks that the Jets have in the 2023 draft (their own and Houston's). See Round 6: Houston → N.Y. Jets.^{[Trade 35]} This pick could become a fifth-round selection if Robinson rushes for 260 yards or more for the Jets this season.^{[Trade 44]}
• Philadelphia → Jacksonville (PD). Philadelphia traded a sixth-round selection as well as cornerback Jameson Houston to Jacksonville in exchange for cornerback Josiah Scott.^{[Trade 45]}
• Pittsburgh → Denver (PD). Pittsburgh traded a sixth-round selection to Denver in exchange for linebacker Malik Reed and a seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 46]}
• San Francisco → Houston (PD). San Francisco traded a sixth-round selection to Houston in exchange for defensive end Charles Omenihu.^{[Trade 47]}
• Tennessee → L.A. Rams (PD). Tennessee traded a sixth-round selection to the Rams in exchange for wide receiver Robert Woods.^{[Trade 48]}

Round 7

• Arizona → Las Vegas (PD). Arizona traded a seventh-round selection to Las Vegas in exchange for cornerback Trayvon Mullen. This selection can become a sixth-round selection if Mullen is active for 10 or more games in 2022 for Arizona.^{[Trade 49]}
• Atlanta → Kansas City (PD). Atlanta traded a conditional seventh-round selection to Kansas City in exchange for cornerback Rashad Fenton.^{[Trade 50]}
• Baltimore → N.Y. Giants (PD). Baltimore traded a seventh-round selection, a 2022 fifth-round selection, and guard Ben Bredeson to New York for a 2022 fourth-round selection.^{[Trade 51]}
• Buffalo → Atlanta (PD). Buffalo traded a seventh-round selection to Atlanta in exchange for safety Dean Marlowe.^{[Trade 52]}
• Buffalo → Carolina (PD). Buffalo traded a conditional seventh-round selection to Carolina in exchange for linebacker Andre Smith.^{[Trade 53]}
• Carolina → Jacksonville (PD). Carolina traded a seventh-round selection and a 2024 sixth-round selection to Jacksonville in exchange for wide receiver Laviska Shenault.^{[Trade 54]}
• Denver → Pittsburgh (PD). See Round 6: Pittsburgh → Denver.^{[Trade 46]}
• Denver → San Francisco (PD). Denver traded a seventh-round selection and a 2022 sixth-round selection to San Francisco in exchange for linebacker Jonas Griffith and a 2022 seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 55]}
• Detroit → L.A. Rams (PD). Detroit traded a seventh-round selection to Los Angeles in exchange for defensive end Michael Brockers.^{[Trade 56]}
• Houston → Minnesota (PD). See Round 6: Minnesota → Houston.^{[Trade 41]}
• Jacksonville → Green Bay (PD). Jacksonville traded a seventh-round selection to Green Bay in exchange for offensive lineman Cole Van Lanen.^{[Trade 57]}
• Las Vegas → Atlanta (PD). See Round 6: Atlanta → Las Vegas.^{[Trade 23]}
• L.A. Rams → Green Bay (PD). See Round 6: Green Bay → L.A. Rams.^{[Trade 34]}
• Minnesota → Denver (PD). Minnesota traded a seventh-round selection and defensive end Stephen Weatherly to Denver in exchange for a 2022 seventh-round selection.^{[Trade 58]}
• Minnesota → Philadelphia (PD). Minnesota traded a seventh-round selection and a conditional 2024 fourth-round selection to Philadelphia in exchange for wide receiver Jalen Reagor.^{[Trade 59]}
• New England → Las Vegas (PD). See Round 6: Las Vegas → New England.^{[Trade 38]}
• N.Y. Jets → Tampa Bay (PD). New York traded a seventh-round selection and nose tackle Steve McLendon to Tampa Bay in exchange for a 2022 sixth-round selection.^{[Trade 60]}
• Seattle → Houston (PD). Seattle traded a conditional seventh-round selection to Houston in exchange for cornerback John Reid.^{[Trade 61]}
• Tampa Bay → Indianapolis (PD). See Round 6: Indianapolis → Tampa Bay.^{[Trade 36]}

[syd]

@nickers said:

Fuck the Draft... I don't even care this year... Another draft full of special teamers on tap...

shut up nickers

[Dutch Oven]

@nickers said:

Fuck the Draft... I don't even care this year... Another draft full of special teamers on tap...

Jesus, just stick your head in an oven already. 

[mjp28]

Friday March 10, 2023  ▪︎  Draft news, Bears trade No. 1 pick !

The Chicago Bears have finally made a move with the No. 1 overall draft pick.

The Bears dealt the first pick in the 2023 NFL Draft to the Carolina Panthers on Friday, according to multiple reports. In exchange, the Bears received multiple first round draft picks and Panthers wide receiver DJ Moore, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

The Bears received the No. 9 and No. 61 overall picks in the 2023 draft,

a first round pick in 2024 and a second round pick in 2025.

This post will be updated with more information shortly.

[mjp28]

As usual when a team deals a No. 1 pick they generally come out alright on the deal. 

CAR gets No. 1 pick.

CHI gets No. 9 pick and No. 61 in 2023.  plus  D. J. Moore 

CHI gets 1st pick in 2024  and  2nd pick in 2025.      A four picks and a player deal, not too bad not earth shaking but not bad.

[Dutch Oven]

The Bears drop eight spots and in the process pick up a 2nd round pick this season, the Panthers first rounder next year, and a 2nd rounder the next draft. 

For a team who doesn't need a QB (or at this time doesn't think so, we'll see how Fields is viewed in a couple of years) this is a draft worth dropping down. 

[syd]

and on to better news THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES  moved on today after beating MSU and seems to me at least  the bears could have gotten more,but oh well never have been a fan of either team

thanks for the info mjp28

[SdBacker80]

@syd said:

and on to better news THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES  moved on today after beating MSU and seems to me at least  the bears could have gotten more,but oh well never have been a fan of either team

thanks for the info mjp28

I can’t believe that team is 16-18.  They could be 18-18 (huge task to get there considering the game tomorrow).  Sneak in as a 10 seed after all this and they will be a problem if they continue on this way. 

[syd]

@sdbacker80 said:

I can’t believe that team is 16-18.  They could be 18-18 (huge task to get there considering the game tomorrow).  Sneak in as a 10 seed after all this and they will be a problem if they continue on this way. 

any idea what teams to gamble on next weekend ?

[Bob806]

Crazy trade, they gave up their #1 WR and a ton to draft a QB. Not sure who the rookie will throw to, their offense wasn't stellar.

Huge gamble.

[syd]

@bob806 said:

Crazy trade, they gave up their #1 WR and a ton to draft a QB. Not sure who the rookie will throw to, their offense wasn't stellar.

Huge gamble.

i am sure people like nickers would have said just to keep baker LOL but seriously which QB do you think they will grab

[Bob806]

@syd said:

i am sure people like nickers would have said just to keep baker LOL but seriously which QB do you think they will grab

I think Bryce Young. CJ Stroud was "better" at the combine but his unwillingness to use his legs at tOSU is an immeasurable stat IMHO. 

Anthony Richardson from Fla, I wonder where he lands. Maybe Green Bay, if Rodgers leaves. Maybe a "project" type QB since he didn't play a ton.

[SdBacker80]

@syd said:

any idea what teams to gamble on next weekend ?

I’ve watched maybe 10 OSU games this year otherwise I haven’t followed college basketball that much this year…I was actually hoping to hear from some of you on here.

Im a college football guy and MMA. 

Sister Jean likes Kentucky.

[SdBacker80]

@bob806 said:

Crazy trade, they gave up their #1 WR and a ton to draft a QB. Not sure who the rookie will throw to, their offense wasn't stellar.

Huge gamble.

You need the guy though at that position.  And you do whatever it takes to find them.  Waiting at 9…you get your third and fourth choice maybe and you’re back to the drawing board in three years. 

Will Levis couldn’t beat out Sean Clifford. 

They will bring someone in with that pick- throw a journeyman QB in for the first 10-12 games. 
 

[Bob806]

@sdbacker80 said:

You need the guy though at that position.  And you do whatever it takes to find them.  Waiting at 9…you get your third and fourth choice maybe and you’re back to the drawing board in three years. 

Will Levis couldn’t beat out Sean Clifford. 

They will bring someone in with that pick- throw a journeyman QB in for the first 10-12 games. 
 

True, but we all know it's 50/50 these top rated QBs pan out in the NFL. May even be worse than 50/50.

Time will tell. The NFC South looks to be fairly wide open, maybe Carolina's gamble pays off.

[Korsou Dawg]

@bob806 said:

Crazy trade, they gave up their #1 WR and a ton to draft a QB. Not sure who the rookie will throw to, their offense wasn't stellar.

Huge gamble.

@sdbacker80 said:

You need the guy though at that position.  And you do whatever it takes to find them.  Waiting at 9…you get your third and fourth choice maybe and you’re back to the drawing board in three years. 

Will Levis couldn’t beat out Sean Clifford. 

They will bring someone in with that pick- throw a journeyman QB in for the first 10-12 games. 
 

@bob806 said:

True, but we all know it's 50/50 these top rated QBs pan out in the NFL. May even be worse than 50/50.

Time will tell. The NFC South looks to be fairly wide open, maybe Carolina's gamble pays off.

Some Bboard members can let go of the fact that we gave up three 1st rounders for Watson. Compare that trade to this trade.

• Three 1st rounders, a 3rd and two 4ths, for Watson and a 6th.
• Two 1st rounders, Two 2nd rounders, and a #1 WR, just to go up 8 places.

The point is about the valuations about draft capital. Not about Watson, so please let's not turn the discussion into that. What the Panthers gave up is at least comparable, just to go up 8 (!!!) places in the draft. 1st rounders ain't worth jack!