2023 Off-Season Free Agent moves/signings
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Browns agree with DT Trysten Hill on a free agent contract
- Published: Mar. 16, 2023, 5:43 p.m.
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns continue to add to their pile of big men in the middle.
On Thursday, they agreed to terms on a contract with fifth-year defensive tackle Trysten Hill, a free agent from the Cardinals.
Hill (6-3, 310) is the third defensive tackle the Browns have acquired in the first few days of free agency. Their big fish was Dalvin Tomlinson, the former Vikings with whom they signed to a four-year deal worth $57 million.
On Wednesday night, they agreed to terms on a one-year deal with Michigan product Maurice Hurst, a free agent from the 49ers.
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Browns agree with DT Trysten Hill on a free agent contract
- Published: Mar. 16, 2023, 5:43 p.m.
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns continue to add to their pile of big men in the middle.
On Thursday, they agreed to terms on a contract with fifth-year defensive tackle Trysten Hill, a free agent from the Cardinals.
Hill (6-3, 310) is the third defensive tackle the Browns have acquired in the first few days of free agency. Their big fish was Dalvin Tomlinson, the former Vikings with whom they signed to a four-year deal worth $57 million.
On Wednesday night, they agreed to terms on a one-year deal with Michigan product Maurice Hurst, a free agent from the 49ers.
Browns agree with DT Trysten Hill on a free agent contract
Okay, after the first two DT signings, I wasn't expecting this one.
@tiamat63 be honest, do you have a direct line of communication to Schwartz?
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Okay, after the first two DT signings, I wasn't expecting this one.
@tiamat63 be honest, do you have a direct line of communication to Schwartz?
Trysten? Another nod of mine from that 2019 draft in... HEY, the same thread that brought up Thornhill as well.
Said it before, Elliot, Togiai, Bryan, Roderick, etc etc... ALL expendable and likely gone. Aside from Perrion, that leaves 4 DT spots up for grabs. The thing about Hurst, is that it's a 1 year deal that I believe involves zero guaranteed money? So if he isn't up to it in camp, no harm no foul for the Brownies. I don't know about the contract details for Hill, but I'm sure it's a 1 year deal much like Mo Hurst - safe to cut in camp provided they don't show anything. That said, Hill is an average to ever-so-slightly above average IDL. But our play their last season was so bad that it's easily twice the upgrade.
These bodies give the Brownies even more flexibility with how the board plays out for a 2nd round pick. Which, at this point, if it isn't BPA defense, then it's likely going to be a receiver.
Edit: I will say this, the best ability is availability. Hurst and Hill have some nagging injury history. And they have history at a position which takes a beating. So is my mind at ease? Not so much. But I do see the strategy that has continued on from McDowell - bring in young, former promising players and see where they might stand with new surroundings.
This doesn't preclude them from continuing to address IDL AND edge in the mid to late rounds though.
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Hill and Hurst are camp bodies.
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2019 2nd round pick out of LSU
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Okay, after the first two DT signings, I wasn't expecting this one.
@tiamat63 be honest, do you have a direct line of communication to Schwartz?
Trysten? Another nod of mine from that 2019 draft in... HEY, the same thread that brought up Thornhill as well.
Said it before, Elliot, Togiai, Bryan, Roderick, etc etc... ALL expendable and likely gone. Aside from Perrion, that leaves 4 DT spots up for grabs. The thing about Hurst, is that it's a 1 year deal that I believe involves zero guaranteed money? So if he isn't up to it in camp, no harm no foul for the Brownies. I don't know about the contract details for Hill, but I'm sure it's a 1 year deal much like Mo Hurst - safe to cut in camp provided they don't show anything. That said, Hill is an average to ever-so-slightly above average IDL. But our play their last season was so bad that it's easily twice the upgrade.
These bodies give the Brownies even more flexibility with how the board plays out for a 2nd round pick. Which, at this point, if it isn't BPA defense, then it's likely going to be a receiver.
Edit: I will say this, the best ability is availability. Hurst and Hill have some nagging injury history. And they have history at a position which takes a beating. So is my mind at ease? Not so much. But I do see the strategy that has continued on from McDowell - bring in young, former promising players and see where they might stand with new surroundings.
This doesn't preclude them from continuing to address IDL AND edge in the mid to late rounds though.
These bodies give the Brownies even more flexibility with how the board plays out for a 2nd round pick. Which, at this point, if it isn't BPA defense, then it's likely going to be a receiver.
This doesn't preclude them from continuing to address IDL AND edge in the mid to late rounds though.
Agree with both thoughts.
At the moment I'm looking at WR, MLB, TE at #42.
But then we don't pick again until #98. That's a crap-shoot number....and anything after. We absolutely have to nail that #42 pick. No reaching for a position. (like, just because we need a WR or LB'er) #42 has got to be a good player.
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Hey D-Bone!
Looks like we’re winning the offseason again!
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Okay, after the first two DT signings, I wasn't expecting this one.
@tiamat63 be honest, do you have a direct line of communication to Schwartz?
Trysten? Another nod of mine from that 2019 draft in... HEY, the same thread that brought up Thornhill as well.
Said it before, Elliot, Togiai, Bryan, Roderick, etc etc... ALL expendable and likely gone. Aside from Perrion, that leaves 4 DT spots up for grabs. The thing about Hurst, is that it's a 1 year deal that I believe involves zero guaranteed money? So if he isn't up to it in camp, no harm no foul for the Brownies. I don't know about the contract details for Hill, but I'm sure it's a 1 year deal much like Mo Hurst - safe to cut in camp provided they don't show anything. That said, Hill is an average to ever-so-slightly above average IDL. But our play their last season was so bad that it's easily twice the upgrade.
These bodies give the Brownies even more flexibility with how the board plays out for a 2nd round pick. Which, at this point, if it isn't BPA defense, then it's likely going to be a receiver.
Edit: I will say this, the best ability is availability. Hurst and Hill have some nagging injury history. And they have history at a position which takes a beating. So is my mind at ease? Not so much. But I do see the strategy that has continued on from McDowell - bring in young, former promising players and see where they might stand with new surroundings.
This doesn't preclude them from continuing to address IDL AND edge in the mid to late rounds though.
Said it before, Elliot, Togiai, Bryan, Roderick, etc etc... ALL expendable and likely gone. Aside from Perrion, that leaves 4 DT spots up for grabs.
You have indeed preached the gospel of the IDL, to the point it was described by other board members as beating a dead horse.
That's the thing. Many, including myself, doubted the FO would (fully) address this. It has however been the primary focus of free agency so far. Looks like Jim has demanded more big boys up front.
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Said it before, Elliot, Togiai, Bryan, Roderick, etc etc... ALL expendable and likely gone. Aside from Perrion, that leaves 4 DT spots up for grabs.
You have indeed preached the gospel of the IDL, to the point it was described by other board members as beating a dead horse.
That's the thing. Many, including myself, doubted the FO would (fully) address this. It has however been the primary focus of free agency so far. Looks like Jim has demanded more big boys up front.
Looks like Jim has demanded
morebig boys up front.different big boys.
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Said it before, Elliot, Togiai, Bryan, Roderick, etc etc... ALL expendable and likely gone. Aside from Perrion, that leaves 4 DT spots up for grabs.
You have indeed preached the gospel of the IDL, to the point it was described by other board members as beating a dead horse.
That's the thing. Many, including myself, doubted the FO would (fully) address this. It has however been the primary focus of free agency so far. Looks like Jim has demanded more big boys up front.
You have indeed preached the gospel of the IDL, to the point it was described by other board members as beating a dead horse.
That's the thing. Many, including myself, doubted the FO would (fully) address this. It has however been the primary focus of free agency so far. Looks like Jim has demanded more big boys up front.
It absolutely was beating a dead horse. The problem though, IDL is the most overlooked position in all of football. So when the issue is THAT glaring, it deserves that sort of echoing.
I had no doubt the front office would correct their error, because they honestly had no choice this time. It wasn't a matter of some grand revelation. They required this defense being one of the very worst in the league at limiting the running game before having the nuance to understand their lack of foresight. Par the course, Schwartz demanded this be fixed contingent upon his hiring.
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A lot of stats options at this link : snap count analysis 2022 Browns TE
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In other news Zeke is no longer a Cowboy. Any bets they want a 1st round RB?
In other news Zeke is no longer a Cowboy. Any bets they want a 1st round RB?
no,but i have heard rumblings that the market for Hunt isn't all that and he could be back with us
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A lot of stats options at this link : snap count analysis 2022 Browns TE
A lot of stats options at this link : snap count analysis 2022 Browns TE
How about Dalton Schultz from the Cowboys?
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Said it before, Elliot, Togiai, Bryan, Roderick, etc etc... ALL expendable and likely gone. Aside from Perrion, that leaves 4 DT spots up for grabs.
You have indeed preached the gospel of the IDL, to the point it was described by other board members as beating a dead horse.
That's the thing. Many, including myself, doubted the FO would (fully) address this. It has however been the primary focus of free agency so far. Looks like Jim has demanded more big boys up front.
You have indeed preached the gospel of the IDL, to the point it was described by other board members as beating a dead horse.
That's the thing. Many, including myself, doubted the FO would (fully) address this. It has however been the primary focus of free agency so far. Looks like Jim has demanded more big boys up front.
As you are probably aware, I made the “beating the dead horse” comment. Before making that comment on a few occasions during and after the 2022 season, I acknowledged IDL is a weak/weaker unit on that team.
No one in their right mind would be comfortable with Bryan, Winfrey, Elliot, Togai. I hoped for a rotation keeping these four fresh and expected some adjustment like 3rd down blitz package bringing Myles inside. We heard some rumblings of Elliot getting better and the Winfrey pick was praised by many. I expected our two bookends to play well and maybe mask or compensate for a few deficiencies. One did.
Let’s go one year back…Going into 2022 we had issues beyond just this unit. If you recall, we had an internal debate here about Baker and needing and hopefully finding an alternative to Baker. In order to do that we gave up draft capital- some of which could been utilized to acquire established IDL talent or draft IDL talent.
We are no different than anyone else …We want it all…we want it right away.
There was some proof (keep in mind I don’t play Madden, I didn’t play collegiate football and I didn’t coach Football. I am just a retired HS wrestling coach and a corporate hack) that when the above mentioned guys did their job (it wasn’t consistent enough) that LBs weren’t filling properly. Hello Jacob Phillips. Safeties weren’t reading cues/assignment and making half @ss attempts. Hello and Goodbye John Johnson. When Teams/Organizations/Families have some issues it is usually never just one thing.
My perhaps uneducated opinion was replacing IDL was necessary BUT let’s not leave out replacing the D coordinator essentially getting a new voice and direction there and fixing the middle second level and middle third level of this defense.
And essentially I made excuses for the front office…some made excuses for Joe Woods. Some were highly critical of Brissett!? Like most Browns fans I’m tired of making excuses.
i like the emphasis thus far. I’d like a Mike though.
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You have indeed preached the gospel of the IDL, to the point it was described by other board members as beating a dead horse.
That's the thing. Many, including myself, doubted the FO would (fully) address this. It has however been the primary focus of free agency so far. Looks like Jim has demanded more big boys up front.
As you are probably aware, I made the “beating the dead horse” comment. Before making that comment on a few occasions during and after the 2022 season, I acknowledged IDL is a weak/weaker unit on that team.
No one in their right mind would be comfortable with Bryan, Winfrey, Elliot, Togai. I hoped for a rotation keeping these four fresh and expected some adjustment like 3rd down blitz package bringing Myles inside. We heard some rumblings of Elliot getting better and the Winfrey pick was praised by many. I expected our two bookends to play well and maybe mask or compensate for a few deficiencies. One did.
Let’s go one year back…Going into 2022 we had issues beyond just this unit. If you recall, we had an internal debate here about Baker and needing and hopefully finding an alternative to Baker. In order to do that we gave up draft capital- some of which could been utilized to acquire established IDL talent or draft IDL talent.
We are no different than anyone else …We want it all…we want it right away.
There was some proof (keep in mind I don’t play Madden, I didn’t play collegiate football and I didn’t coach Football. I am just a retired HS wrestling coach and a corporate hack) that when the above mentioned guys did their job (it wasn’t consistent enough) that LBs weren’t filling properly. Hello Jacob Phillips. Safeties weren’t reading cues/assignment and making half @ss attempts. Hello and Goodbye John Johnson. When Teams/Organizations/Families have some issues it is usually never just one thing.
My perhaps uneducated opinion was replacing IDL was necessary BUT let’s not leave out replacing the D coordinator essentially getting a new voice and direction there and fixing the middle second level and middle third level of this defense.
And essentially I made excuses for the front office…some made excuses for Joe Woods. Some were highly critical of Brissett!? Like most Browns fans I’m tired of making excuses.
i like the emphasis thus far. I’d like a Mike though.
Safeties weren’t reading cues/assignment and making half @ss attempts. Hello and Goodbye John Johnson.
I agree with a lot of your post, but I don't get all the hate for JJ. He was second on the team in tackles, 2 behind the leader...who was also a Safety (Delpit).
Supposedly Woods' defense was confusing...resulting in missed assignment reads.
There were a bunch of us that were apprehensive before the season about our IDL and lighter, quicker LB'er theory, as to whether it would hold up against the run.
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Browns sign Watson’s former tight end according to his agent
Well, Flugal & I were just talkin' about not being impressed with what we had behind Njoku...
Browns sign Watson’s former tight end according to his agent
Well, Flugal & I were just talkin' about not being impressed with what we had behind Njoku...
Big fan of TE's that can block, with good handles for hands .. Was in for a FA visit today ?
Jordan Akins is coming off his best season as a pro with 37 catches for 495 yards and five touchdowns earning a 72.4 overall grade from Pro Football Focus.
Jordan Akins is a big target in the red zone at 6-foot-4 and 243 pounds with reliable hands only having one dropped pass in 49 targets for a terrible Texans team last season.
Akins agreed to a two-year contract worth a maximum of $5.2 million.
Another good signing
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This is a make or break year for Trigger-Finger Haslems Henchmen. Berry & Stef know that their jobs are on the line to show results with their new 'top notch QB' (in theory top notch).
Their top two picks in the draft are #42 & #98. How much could they possibly hope to fix in the draft...with players that have never played a snap in the NFL?
Some people were against 'overpaying' in FA. But how were these guys supposed to save their jobs? How were they supposed to stop the run without bringing in some IDLinemen? How are they supposed to replace Clowney? Get a starting safety? Improve the TE position behind Njoku?
They HAD to get some things done in FA. It's a tool that had to be used. And they've used it to address the areas that we've all felt that were in serious need. Of course we still need more, like WR and perhaps MLB...but now we go to the draft with less of a mandatory shopping list.
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@mld-woody well, there's your 3 tech depth.
@mld-woody well, there's your 3 tech depth.
Dude has had such an unlucky career. From the heart issue right before the draft to injuries during his time in the NFL. Was a stud at Michigan too. An interior pass rush in college is deadly.
Hoping for the best here, obviously. Has a long way to go though
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