Wide Receiver
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This is what happens when you have a front office that knows they are probably one more missed playoff year from getting shitcanned. (And why I've been predicting a remaining highish pick being traded for a vet player instead of being used on a draft pick. At least with this one, they just dropped down, but still....)
We've seen this movie before. Butch Davis made win-now moves that killed this franchise for years. Phil Savage traded away a draft class trying to get over the hump after the near-miss of 2007.
Will you STOP making so much sense? Knock it off!
It's hard to get pumped up about a 2nd consecutive draft not starting until round 3. I wasted so much time last week posting all the prospects at different positions we have a shot at drafting at #42 overall (that could be an immediate impact). Hope my gut is wrong about the latest knee-jerk.
Will you STOP making so much sense? Knock it off!
It's hard to get pumped up about a 2nd consecutive draft not starting until round 3. I wasted so much time last week posting all the prospects at different positions we have a shot at drafting at #42 overall (that could be an immediate impact). Hope my gut is wrong about the latest knee-jerk.
Now here's a legit question for you:
Are you upset because you are genuinely upset in the direction the Browns are going, or are you upset because you really look forward to the Draft and once again the air is let out of your Browns Draft Balloon? Or both? (I understand how one could be both)
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and at 42 which wr would you have drafted ?
First, who says I wanted a WR at #42? I was actually getting excited that it looked like we were suddenly equipped to go BPA. However, I have to say I think we can do better than a guy the Jets felt compelled to demote already in just his 2nd season and willing to trade 1 year later. His teammate Garrett Wilson didn't need the bad QB excuse; and he was just a rookie fwiw.
Second, I don't know any more about the draft than the next guy in here. I'm just venting about something our FO just did. Venting isn't all that uncommon to do when the Browns are in last place again. The thought of not drafting before round 3 for a second consecutive year concerns me.
Anyway, there's a few WRs projecting for round 3 I could get excited about like Penn State's Parker Washington, Princeton's Andrei Josivas, and Iowa State's Xavier Hutchinson. I provided highlights of each and other WRs in page 10 of the 2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects thread after Gumby posted about BC's Zay Flowers. However, someone else started this really good WR thread very shortly after so a lot of people never saw all the WR stuff I put in that other thread.
Since the Browns signed a lot of pressing needs last week I felt like we had an ideal opportunity to go with BPA at #42 overall. Therefore, I also started an ILBer thread and a Offensive/Left Tackle thread covering guys projected for rounds 2 and 3 by a Draft Magazine. Each LBer had about 4-6 minutes of highlights included. The tackles had highlights too but not quite as long. To post that stuff should show I didn't have my heart set on WR at #42.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
and at 42 which wr would you have drafted ?
First, who says I wanted a WR at #42? I was actually getting excited that it looked like we were suddenly equipped to go BPA. However, I have to say I think we can do better than a guy the Jets felt compelled to demote already in just his 2nd season and willing to trade 1 year later. His teammate Garrett Wilson didn't need the bad QB excuse; and he was just a rookie fwiw.
Second, I don't know any more about the draft than the next guy in here. I'm just venting about something our FO just did. Venting isn't all that uncommon to do when the Browns are in last place again. The thought of not drafting before round 3 for a second consecutive year concerns me.
Anyway, there's a few WRs projecting for round 3 I could get excited about like Penn State's Parker Washington, Princeton's Andrei Josivas, and Iowa State's Xavier Hutchinson. I provided highlights of each and other WRs in page 10 of the 2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects thread after Gumby posted about BC's Zay Flowers. However, someone else started this really good WR thread very shortly after so a lot of people never saw all the WR stuff I put in that other thread.
Since the Browns signed a lot of pressing needs last week I felt like we had an ideal opportunity to go with BPA at #42 overall. Therefore, I also started an ILBer thread and a Offensive/Left Tackle thread covering guys projected for rounds 2 and 3 by a Draft Magazine. Each LBer had about 4-6 minutes of highlights included. The tackles had highlights too but not quite as long. To post that stuff should show I didn't have my heart set on WR at #42.
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Will you STOP making so much sense? Knock it off!
It's hard to get pumped up about a 2nd consecutive draft not starting until round 3. I wasted so much time last week posting all the prospects at different positions we have a shot at drafting at #42 overall (that could be an immediate impact). Hope my gut is wrong about the latest knee-jerk.
Now here's a legit question for you:
Are you upset because you are genuinely upset in the direction the Browns are going, or are you upset because you really look forward to the Draft and once again the air is let out of your Browns Draft Balloon? Or both? (I understand how one could be both)
Now here's a legit question for you:
Are you upset because you are genuinely upset in the direction the Browns are going, or are you upset because you really look forward to the Draft and once again the air is let out of your Browns Draft Balloon? Or both? (I understand how one could be both)
I'll preface my answer with saying the reason the Browns have the most last place finishes in their division since they returned to the NFL is because they've done the worst in the draft. Free agency and crack-pipe trades has never been the magical catch-up tool. That said, did I tell you if you watch the first Rocky movie 24 times that he finally wins the 24th time you watch it?
My answer is both.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
and at 42 which wr would you have drafted ?
First, who says I wanted a WR at #42? I was actually getting excited that it looked like we were suddenly equipped to go BPA. However, I have to say I think we can do better than a guy the Jets felt compelled to demote already in just his 2nd season and willing to trade 1 year later. His teammate Garrett Wilson didn't need the bad QB excuse; and he was just a rookie fwiw.
Second, I don't know any more about the draft than the next guy in here. I'm just venting about something our FO just did. Venting isn't all that uncommon to do when the Browns are in last place again. The thought of not drafting before round 3 for a second consecutive year concerns me.
Anyway, there's a few WRs projecting for round 3 I could get excited about like Penn State's Parker Washington, Princeton's Andrei Josivas, and Iowa State's Xavier Hutchinson. I provided highlights of each and other WRs in page 10 of the 2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects thread after Gumby posted about BC's Zay Flowers. However, someone else started this really good WR thread very shortly after so a lot of people never saw all the WR stuff I put in that other thread.
Since the Browns signed a lot of pressing needs last week I felt like we had an ideal opportunity to go with BPA at #42 overall. Therefore, I also started an ILBer thread and a Offensive/Left Tackle thread covering guys projected for rounds 2 and 3 by a Draft Magazine. Each LBer had about 4-6 minutes of highlights included. The tackles had highlights too but not quite as long. To post that stuff should show I didn't have my heart set on WR at #42.
by a Lindys Draft Magazine.
they've done the worst in the draft.
Free agency and crack-pipe trades has never been the magical catch-up tool.
My answer is both.
Cleveland Browns
In finalizing the Trade of Elijah Moore to the Browns..The Browns have sent a $25.00 refund check to Fugel's of the Browns Board to pay for a Linsey Draft Magazine..
In the future.. Don't make us go to the extremes of paying these overpaid crack pipe players ?Happy ? Friday ! -
by a Lindys Draft Magazine.
they've done the worst in the draft.
Free agency and crack-pipe trades has never been the magical catch-up tool.
My answer is both.
Cleveland Browns
In finalizing the Trade of Elijah Moore to the Browns..The Browns have sent a $25.00 refund check to Fugel's of the Browns Board to pay for a Linsey Draft Magazine..In the future.. Don't make us go to the extremes of paying these overpaid crack pipe players ?Happy ? Friday !
Cleveland Browns
In finalizing the Trade of Elijah Moore to the Browns..The Browns have sent a $25.00 refund check to Fugel's of the Browns Board to pay for a Linsey Draft Magazine..In the future.. Don't make us go to the extremes of paying these overpaid crack pipe players ?Happy ? Friday !You sick bastard! After the Diet Pepsi in my mouth went through my nose - I hit the deck LMAO. Thanks for the 2 minute abs Gumbs!
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Goodwin aboard too. Love it.
Cooper, DPJ, Moore, Bell, Goodwin plenty of Reliable insurance policies if someone goes down.
Now let’s close the chapter on Schwartz…he’s just not a football player at this level.
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Goodwin aboard too. Love it.
Cooper, DPJ, Moore, Bell, Goodwin plenty of Reliable insurance policies if someone goes down.
Now let’s close the chapter on Schwartz…he’s just not a football player at this level.
Now let’s close the chapter on Schwartz…he’s just not a football player at this level.
i know time to say bye-bye to bad tho i was rooting for him
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Goodwin aboard too. Love it.
Cooper, DPJ, Moore, Bell, Goodwin plenty of Reliable insurance policies if someone goes down.
Now let’s close the chapter on Schwartz…he’s just not a football player at this level.
Goodwin aboard too. Love it.
Nice !
I thought that kicked tire went flat after the Moore trade.
Schwartz/ Bell & Woods at camp, fights for a roster spot or practice squad bubble.
adding Bill Musgrave's to AVP with Stef calling plays... We'd hope to see the 2020 Deshaun Watson play like it
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Goodwin aboard too. Love it.
Nice !
I thought that kicked tire went flat after the Moore trade.
Schwartz/ Bell & Woods at camp, fights for a roster spot or practice squad bubble.
adding Bill Musgrave's to AVP with Stef calling plays... We'd hope to see the 2020 Deshaun Watson play like it
Nice !
I thought that kicked tire went flat after the Moore trade.
Schwartz/ Bell & Woods at camp, fights for a roster spot or practice squad bubble.
adding Bill Musgrave's to AVP with Stef calling plays... We'd hope to see the 2020 Deshaun Watson play like it
Bell isn't fighting for a roster spot, barring disaster.
Schwartz and Woods are, dependent on special teams play.
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Nice !
I thought that kicked tire went flat after the Moore trade.
Schwartz/ Bell & Woods at camp, fights for a roster spot or practice squad bubble.
adding Bill Musgrave's to AVP with Stef calling plays... We'd hope to see the 2020 Deshaun Watson play like it
Bell isn't fighting for a roster spot, barring disaster.
Schwartz and Woods are, dependent on special teams play.
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He's a smurf. (an Elf, since he's a Brown now). 5' 10" 179 lb. 56% catch percentage. I don't see him as being 'the answer'. (Elijah, the savior)
...and now our first pick is in total crap-shoot land. 3rd round. But...at least they're attacking the spots that we all hoped they would. Be good Elijah, we need ya to be good.
Just curious remember Brian Brennan 5' 9" 178 ? Career 59.4%. (Kosar years.) Great possession receiver kind of in that class.
Just curious remember Brian Brennan 5' 9" 178 ? Career 59.4%. (Kosar years.) Great possession receiver kind of in that class.
Thanks for bringing him up. Loved Brian Brennan. He led our 12-4 team in 86 with 55 receptions playing almost exclusively on 3rd downs. The OTHER guy that came up big on 3rd downs was RB Herman Fontenot with 47 receptions. On a team that had talents like Mack, Byner and Slaughter - the blue collar work of Brennan and Fontenot kept a lot of drives alive with their clutch performances within their situational roles.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Goodwin (don't know why the yellow highlight)
Position: WR 5-9, 180lb (175cm, 81kg) - another Elf (smurf). C'mon Weston...be good!
Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD 1D Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD 1D Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 102 44 362 187 3023 16.2 18 141 84 1.8 29.6 51.7% 8.4 19 93 0 6 18 4.9 0.9 0.2 206 15.1 3116 18 4 26 4 yrs BUF 39 10 111 49 780 15.9 6 36 84 1.3 20.0 44.1% 7.0 6 21 0 2 17 3.5 0.5 0.2 55 14.6 801 6 2 6 3 yrs SFO 36 30 169 91 1543 17.0 7 75 83 2.5 42.9 53.8% 9.1 9 68 0 4 18 7.6 1.9 0.3 100 16.1 1611 7 1 13 1 yr CHI 14 2 40 20 313 15.7 1 12 50 1.4 22.4 50.0% 7.8 2 -1 0 0 1 -0.5 -0.1 0.1 22 14.2 312 1 1 3 1 yr SEA 13 2 42 27 387 14.3 4 18 38 2.1 29.8 64.3% 9.2 2 5 0 0 7 2.5 0.4 0.2 29 13.5 392 4 4 2013 23 BUF WR 88 12 1 32 17 283 16.6 3 13 59 1.4 23.6 53.1% 8.8 3 13 0 1 17 4.3 1.1 0.3 20 14.8 296 3 1 2 2014 24 BUF WR 88 10 0 9 1 42 42.0 0 1 42 0.1 4.2 11.1% 4.7 3 8 0 1 12 2.7 0.8 0.3 4 12.5 50 0 1 0 2015 25 BUF WR 88 2 0 2 2 24 12.0 0 2 14 1.0 12.0 100.0% 12.0 0 2 12.0 24 0 0 0 2016 26 BUF WR 88 15 9 68 29 431 14.9 3 20 84 1.9 28.7 42.6% 6.3 0 29 14.9 431 3 0 4 2017 27 SFO WR 11 16 16 105 56 962 17.2 2 46 83 3.5 60.1 53.3% 9.2 4 44 0 3 18 11.0 2.8 0.3 60 16.8 1006 2 0 8 2018 28 SFO WR 11 11 8 43 23 395 17.2 4 19 67 2.1 35.9 53.5% 9.2 4 9 0 0 5 2.3 0.8 0.4 27 15.0 404 4 1 3 2019 29 SFO WR 11 9 6 21 12 186 15.5 1 10 38 1.3 20.7 57.1% 8.9 1 15 0 1 15 15.0 1.7 0.1 13 15.5 201 1 0 2 2021 31 CHI WR 84 14 2 40 20 313 15.7 1 12 50 1.4 22.4 50.0% 7.8 2 -1 0 0 1 -0.5 -0.1 0.1 22 14.2 312 1 1 3 2022 32 SEA WR 11 13 2 42 27 387 14.3 4 18 38 2.1 29.8 64.3% 9.2 2 5 0 0 7 2.5 0.4 0.2 29 13.5 392 4 0 4 -
Just curious remember Brian Brennan 5' 9" 178 ? Career 59.4%. (Kosar years.) Great possession receiver kind of in that class.
Thanks for bringing him up. Loved Brian Brennan. He led our 12-4 team in 86 with 55 receptions playing almost exclusively on 3rd downs. The OTHER guy that came up big on 3rd downs was RB Herman Fontenot with 47 receptions. On a team that had talents like Mack, Byner and Slaughter - the blue collar work of Brennan and Fontenot kept a lot of drives alive with their clutch performances within their situational roles.
Thanks for bringing him up. Loved Brian Brennan. He led our 12-4 team in 86 with 55 receptions playing almost exclusively on 3rd downs. The OTHER guy that came up big on 3rd downs was RB Herman Fontenot with 47 receptions. On a team that had talents like Mack, Byner and Slaughter - the blue collar work of Brennan and Fontenot kept a lot of drives alive with their clutch performances within their situational roles.
Thanks flug,
When they were talking about these WRs I thought about #86 Brian Brennan during the Cleveland BROWNS glory years with Boardman native and the "U" National Champion Bernie Kosar. And 1986 was Brian Brennan's best year as a BROWNS player, plus a great guy whenever you needed a 3rd down conversion made. Not flashy but very reliable and his stats :
Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 132 27 32 334 4336 13.0 20 57 2.5 32.8 59.4% 5.9 0 334 13.0 4336 20 9 41 8 yrs CLE 117 27 315 4148 13.2 19 57 2.7 35.5 0% 0 315 13.2 4148 19 9 39 1 yr CIN 9 0 26 16 166 10.4 1 21 1.8 18.4 61.5% 6.4 0 16 10.4 166 1 2 1 yr SDG 6 0 6 3 22 7.3 0 12 0.5 3.7 50.0% 3.7 0 3 7.3 22 0 0 1984 22 CLE WR 86 15 5 35 455 13.0 3 52 2.3 30.3 0 35 13.0 455 3 1 4 1985 23 CLE WR 86 12 10 32 487 15.2 0 57 2.7 40.6 0 32 15.2 487 0 3 6 1986 24 CLE WR 86 16 0 55 838 15.2 6 57 3.4 52.4 0 55 15.2 838 6 1 8 1987 25 CLE WR 86 13 1 43 607 14.1 6 53 3.3 46.7 0 43 14.1 607 6 1 7 1988 26 CLE WR 86 16 1 46 579 12.6 1 33 2.9 36.2 0 46 12.6 579 1 0 5 1989 27 CLE WR 86 14 2 28 289 10.3 0 38 2.0 20.6 0 28 10.3 289 0 1 2 1990 28 CLE WR 86 16 5 45 568 12.6 2 28 2.8 35.5 0 45 12.6 568 2 1 4 1991 29 CLE WR 86 15 3 31 325 10.5 1 30 2.1 21.7 0 31 10.5 325 1 1 3 1992 30 2TM WR 15 0 32 19 188 9.9 1 21 1.3 12.5 59.4% 5.9 0 19 9.9 188 1 0 2 CIN WR 83 9 0 26 16 166 10.4 1 21 1.8 18.4 61.5% 6.4 0 16 10.4 166 1 0 2 SDG WR 13 6 0 6 3 22 7.3 0 12 0.5 3.7 50.0% 3.7 0 3 7.3 22 0 0 0 -
Nice !
I thought that kicked tire went flat after the Moore trade.
Schwartz/ Bell & Woods at camp, fights for a roster spot or practice squad bubble.
adding Bill Musgrave's to AVP with Stef calling plays... We'd hope to see the 2020 Deshaun Watson play like it
Bell isn't fighting for a roster spot, barring disaster.
Schwartz and Woods are, dependent on special teams play.
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Oh and for a trip down the Cleveland BROWNS greatest memory lane Herman Fontenot 6' 0" 206 lb and from LSU.
And also his slightly fewer stats :
Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV Career 83 4 143 1453 10.2 6 72 1.7 17.5 102 370 2 19 3.6 4.5 1.2 245 7.4 1823 8 4 16 4 yrs CLE 53 4 72 788 10.9 2 72 1.4 14.9 68 225 1 17 3.3 4.2 1.3 140 7.2 1013 3 3 9 2 yrs GNB 30 0 71 665 9.4 4 59 2.4 22.2 34 145 1 19 4.3 4.8 1.1 105 7.7 810 5 1 7 1985 22 CLE RB 28 9 0 2 19 9.5 0 17 0.2 2.1 0 2 9.5 19 0 1 0 1986 23 CLE RB 28 16 3 47 559 11.9 1 72 2.9 34.9 25 105 1 16 4.2 6.6 1.6 72 9.2 664 2 2 6 1987 24 CLE RB 28 12 0 4 40 10.0 0 25 0.3 3.3 15 33 0 14 2.2 2.8 1.3 19 3.8 73 0 0 1 1988 25 CLE RB 28 16 1 19 170 8.9 1 15 1.2 10.6 28 87 0 17 3.1 5.4 1.8 47 5.5 257 1 0 2 1989 26 GNB RB 27 16 0 40 372 9.3 3 38 2.5 23.3 17 69 1 19 4.1 4.3 1.1 57 7.7 441 4 0 4 1990 27 GNB RB 27 14 0 31 293 9.5 1 59 2.2 20.9 17 76 0 18 4.5 5.4 1.2 48 7.7 369 1 1 3 -
Now here's a legit question for you:
Are you upset because you are genuinely upset in the direction the Browns are going, or are you upset because you really look forward to the Draft and once again the air is let out of your Browns Draft Balloon? Or both? (I understand how one could be both)
I'll preface my answer with saying the reason the Browns have the most last place finishes in their division since they returned to the NFL is because they've done the worst in the draft. Free agency and crack-pipe trades has never been the magical catch-up tool. That said, did I tell you if you watch the first Rocky movie 24 times that he finally wins the 24th time you watch it?
My answer is both.
I'll preface my answer with saying the reason the Browns have the most last place finishes in their division since they returned to the NFL is because they've done the worst in the draft. Free agency and crack-pipe trades has never been the magical catch-up tool. That said, did I tell you if you watch the first Rocky movie 24 times that he finally wins the 24th time you watch it?
My answer is both.
Rocky did win. That was the point of the movie.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Nice !
I thought that kicked tire went flat after the Moore trade.
Schwartz/ Bell & Woods at camp, fights for a roster spot or practice squad bubble.
adding Bill Musgrave's to AVP with Stef calling plays... We'd hope to see the 2020 Deshaun Watson play like it
Bell isn't fighting for a roster spot, barring disaster.
Schwartz and Woods are, dependent on special teams play.
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I'll preface my answer with saying the reason the Browns have the most last place finishes in their division since they returned to the NFL is because they've done the worst in the draft. Free agency and crack-pipe trades has never been the magical catch-up tool. That said, did I tell you if you watch the first Rocky movie 24 times that he finally wins the 24th time you watch it?
My answer is both.
Rocky did win. That was the point of the movie.
Rocky did win. That was the point of the movie.
No, Rocky lost the fight in the original, first installment of the series.
You might want to watch that again, because winning the fight was absolutely not the point of the first Rocky.
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