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Onside kick or fourth-and-20? One of the 17 NFL playing rules changes proposed

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  • sydS syd

    what those  A-Holes should be talking about is how to make the games easier to call for the ref's,one thing i would do away with is the fucking completion of a catch and get rid of the fucking tuck rule and if the arm was going forward or not,ITS A FUCKING FUMBLE

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
    #8

    @syd said:

    what those  A-Holes should be talking about is how to make the games easier to call for the ref's,one thing i would do away with is the fucking completion of a catch and get rid of the fucking tuck rule and if the arm was going forward or not,ITS A FUCKING FUMBLE

    Actually, your comment inspired my above post.  Refs have a hard job and the NFL doesn't make it any easier.

    I have long felt that they way to get a NFL rig is to get one of the refs on the take, not a player.  A single ref may not be able to change a game, but they can influence a game.  I have long felt the best way to eliminate that is to have fewer refs on the field.  You would have a much cleaner game with maybe 3 on field refs.  Maybe 4+ the eye in the sky.

    But, people like scoring so naturally the rules have leaned in favor of the O with the exception of the catch rule.

  • @syd said:

    what those  A-Holes should be talking about is how to make the games easier to call for the ref's,one thing i would do away with is the fucking completion of a catch and get rid of the fucking tuck rule and if the arm was going forward or not,ITS A FUCKING FUMBLE

    Actually, your comment inspired my above post.  Refs have a hard job and the NFL doesn't make it any easier.

    I have long felt that they way to get a NFL rig is to get one of the refs on the take, not a player.  A single ref may not be able to change a game, but they can influence a game.  I have long felt the best way to eliminate that is to have fewer refs on the field.  You would have a much cleaner game with maybe 3 on field refs.  Maybe 4+ the eye in the sky.

    But, people like scoring so naturally the rules have leaned in favor of the O with the exception of the catch rule.

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #9

    @ballpeen said:

    Actually, your comment inspired my above post.

    I know that you're not referencing me...but it is the same reason that I chose specific text of your post to quote.

    Now, I understand that the league wants to make the ending of every game exciting...so they're going to slant the rules to that outcome.   But THAT was not part of the design of the game.  Now, at the ending stages of the game.  They don't want your defense to get a rest break.  They want to put your exhausted defense right back on the field again. 

    Anything for offense!   Anything to try and get more women and fringe fans to buy jerseys!  

  • @ballpeen said:

    Actually, your comment inspired my above post.

    I know that you're not referencing me...but it is the same reason that I chose specific text of your post to quote.

    Now, I understand that the league wants to make the ending of every game exciting...so they're going to slant the rules to that outcome.   But THAT was not part of the design of the game.  Now, at the ending stages of the game.  They don't want your defense to get a rest break.  They want to put your exhausted defense right back on the field again. 

    Anything for offense!   Anything to try and get more women and fringe fans to buy jerseys!  

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #10

    @orion said:

    Anything for offense!   Anything to try and get more women and fringe fans to buy jerseys!  

    You know any that might be interested in a still packaged #2 QB jersey? I ain't partin' with my future HOF still packaged #95.??

  • runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
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    I think they should just go back to the old on-side kick rules. I know they say they changed it for player safety but I would like to see the data they had for injuries on one side kicks that they thought they needed to change it to begin with.

  • A AP1 wrote on last edited by AP1
    #12

    I'm kind of surprised the metrics guys haven't stumbled into onside kicks earlier in the game when they're not expected.

  • @orion said:

    Anything for offense!   Anything to try and get more women and fringe fans to buy jerseys!  

    You know any that might be interested in a still packaged #2 QB jersey? I ain't partin' with my future HOF still packaged #95.??

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @texasag1969 said:

    You know any that might be interested in a still packaged #2 QB jersey? I ain't partin' with my future HOF still packaged #95.??

    Kameiron Wimbley?  🙂   Keep 'em in the packaging.  Couch was their 1st draft pick upon return to existence.  

    @ap1 said:

    I'm kind of surprised the metrics guys haven't stumbled into onside kicks earlier in the game when they're not expected.

    The front line players are trained by ST coaches to stay home and watch for that.   And during the week those ST coaches watch film to make sure their opponent does it right.

  • sydS syd

    what those  A-Holes should be talking about is how to make the games easier to call for the ref's,one thing i would do away with is the fucking completion of a catch and get rid of the fucking tuck rule and if the arm was going forward or not,ITS A FUCKING FUMBLE

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    what those  A-Holes should be talking about is how to make the games easier to call for the ref's,one thing i would do away with is the fucking completion of a catch and get rid of the fucking tuck rule and if the arm was going forward or not,ITS A FUCKING FUMBLE

    Yeah, you have to "complete the catch/survive the ground," yet " the ground can't cause a fumble."

    Try explaining that to a foreigner lol.

  • @syd said:

    what those  A-Holes should be talking about is how to make the games easier to call for the ref's,one thing i would do away with is the fucking completion of a catch and get rid of the fucking tuck rule and if the arm was going forward or not,ITS A FUCKING FUMBLE

    Yeah, you have to "complete the catch/survive the ground," yet " the ground can't cause a fumble."

    Try explaining that to a foreigner lol.

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
    #15

    @bob806 said:

    Try explaining that to a foreigner lol.

    lmao

  • @syd said:

    what those  A-Holes should be talking about is how to make the games easier to call for the ref's,one thing i would do away with is the fucking completion of a catch and get rid of the fucking tuck rule and if the arm was going forward or not,ITS A FUCKING FUMBLE

    Actually, your comment inspired my above post.  Refs have a hard job and the NFL doesn't make it any easier.

    I have long felt that they way to get a NFL rig is to get one of the refs on the take, not a player.  A single ref may not be able to change a game, but they can influence a game.  I have long felt the best way to eliminate that is to have fewer refs on the field.  You would have a much cleaner game with maybe 3 on field refs.  Maybe 4+ the eye in the sky.

    But, people like scoring so naturally the rules have leaned in favor of the O with the exception of the catch rule.

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @ballpeen said:

    I have long felt that they way to get a NFL rig is to get one of the refs on the take, not a player

    Vegas would find out and I do not believe they would be pleased 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You know any that might be interested in a still packaged #2 QB jersey? I ain't partin' with my future HOF still packaged #95.??

    Kameiron Wimbley?  🙂   Keep 'em in the packaging.  Couch was their 1st draft pick upon return to existence.  

    @ap1 said:

    I'm kind of surprised the metrics guys haven't stumbled into onside kicks earlier in the game when they're not expected.

    The front line players are trained by ST coaches to stay home and watch for that.   And during the week those ST coaches watch film to make sure their opponent does it right.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @orion said:

    Kameiron Wimbley?  🙂   Keep 'em in the packaging.  Couch was their 1st draft pick upon return to existence. 

    Yeah, maybe I'll run into JFF at a home game posing in front of his Heisman that's on display in the stadium. He can sign it for me.?

  • sydS syd

    @ballpeen said:

    I have long felt that they way to get a NFL rig is to get one of the refs on the take, not a player

    Vegas would find out and I do not believe they would be pleased 

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @syd said:

    Vegas would find out and I do not believe they would be pleased 

    Immaculate reception, 1972.

    The refs admitted that if they reversed the call, they feared for their lives.

    It WAS a difficult call, no doubt. I still don't agree with it.

  • @orion said:

    Anything for offense!   Anything to try and get more women and fringe fans to buy jerseys!  

    You know any that might be interested in a still packaged #2 QB jersey? I ain't partin' with my future HOF still packaged #95.??

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    You know any that might be interested in a still packaged #2 QB jersey? I ain't partin' with my future HOF still packaged #95.??

    Jamir Miller is going to the Hall of Fame?  He was a great pass rusher for us the year before he blew out his achilles in our 1st preseason game.  

    Some other little rascal is wearing that number now.  I think he went to college somewhere in Texas.  ?