2023 Off-Season Free Agent moves/signings
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Good writeup of 6 non-Browns offseasons
And let's stop the "we won the offseason"s now.. Sure, being better at our weaknesses is good stuff, but the thing missing so far that is present in each of these 6:
Quality vet signings at each weakness position for 1yr/under $6 who are only backups.
Focus now on the depth, we know the injuries will happen..
IMO, the reason this franchise has had so much trouble winning from 1999-2022 is because it's never been able to build through the draft. I remember Phil Savage saying, he's here to improve how this franchise does with the draft; and that leaning too much on free agency is usually a sign of trouble. He said Ozzie taught him you build your team through the draft. Let me get this out of the way right now. YES, Phil Savage somehow found a 6'6" All Galaxy Left Tackle named Joe Thomas standing on our doorstep at #3 overall and drafted him. Let's not pretend that was like finding a needle in a haystack. Outside of hat, the failed in the draft so much - the increasing volume of bare cupboards caused him to lean on free agency just as much the FOs before him had to. It became the reason he was eventually released. When you're already overpaying too many free agents that count against your cap - your team is FUBAR when that group has an injury volume
TODAY, when you trade and lean on free agency so much that you subtract 3 consecutive 1st round draft picks along with 2 consecutive 2nd round draft picks - you've surrendered 5 golden opportunities to add strong prospects under a rookie salary cap restriction for a healthier salary cap. Not only that, but these aren't 1 year investments only - so there's a foundation for continuity being crumbled. That is, IF you have a FO that is good at the draft. If we don't have a FO that's good at the draft - we get to watch the 3 other teams in our division going to the playoffs and/or Super Bowl instead of our team. The ONLY 2 starters on offense this FO drafted are Jedrick Wills-he-or-won't-he block somebody (at #10 overall); and DPJ in round 6 (with congrats to the blind squirrel finding a nut).
I always remember that Cheers episode where the Psychiatrist (Frasier Crane) who was in a bar slamming depressants and running with scissors after a full day of listening to Red Sox fans belly up on his couch whining about the Yankees. Then again, it might have just been because he and HIPAA had to protect poor Bill Buckner. Is it possible the curse really ended because Frasier moved to Seattle? God only knows.
Despite everything I said above - I found myself admiring Berry's response to adversity recently. He's trying to fight his way out of the corner he chose to get into. IMO, this draft will decide his future in Cleveland. I wonder why Paul Depodesta's ass isn't on the line. Oh yeah, Jimmy Haslam is the owner. Walked right into that one...
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Basically, our problem is one of these people:
Management
Dee Haslam Managing and Principal Partner
Jimmy Haslam Managing and Principal Partner
Whitney Haslam Johnson Partner
JW Johnson Executive Vice President, Partner
Andrew Berry Executive Vice President, Football Operations & General Manager
Paul DePodesta Chief Strategy Officer
David A. Jenkins Executive Vice President, Chief Operating Officer
Gregory Rush Chief Financial Officer
Eric Clouse Chief Commercial Officer
Mike Nikolaus Chief Human Resources Officer
Peter John-Baptiste Senior Vice President, Communications
Phil Dangerfield Vice President, Operations
Ted Tywang Vice President, General Counsel
Josh Glessing Vice President, Strategy
Katie Murphy Director, Managing Partner Operations
Will Black Manager, Managing Partner Operations
Allison Likar Executive Assistant
Monica Lince Manager, Business Operations
Jim Brown Special AdvisorFootball Operations
Catherine Raiche Assistant GM & Vice President of Football Operations
Bob Quinn Senior Personnel/ Coaching Executive
Jimmy Raye III Senior Executive Advisor to the GM
Tyler Hamblin Director of Football Operations
Joy Tapajcik Player Personnel & Football Operations Process Manager
Shane Normandeau Coordinator, Football Ops
Football Administration
Chris Cooper Vice President, Football Administration
Taylor Young Director, Football Administration
Callum Mahoney Salary Cap & Contract Analyst (this guy's gotta be ok...my grandson's name is Callum)
Check out the full list: https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/front-office-roster/
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
better than losing it
Why am I getting this lecture? Somehow you cut and pasted what Unsymp wrote as opposed to my reply to him. ? It's not even happy hour out there yet on the West Coast - so no excuses. Only kidding - no worries...
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Why am I getting this lecture? Somehow you cut and pasted what Unsymp wrote as opposed to my reply to him. ? It's not even happy hour out there yet on the West Coast - so no excuses. Only kidding - no worries...
ah you know I woke up early to watch the masters so ummm ya Happy Hour started early today,Bet the poli board can't wait LMAO
happy good friday
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Why am I getting this lecture? Somehow you cut and pasted what Unsymp wrote as opposed to my reply to him. ? It's not even happy hour out there yet on the West Coast - so no excuses. Only kidding - no worries...
ah you know I woke up early to watch the masters so ummm ya Happy Hour started early today,Bet the poli board can't wait LMAO
happy good friday
ah you know I woke up early to watch the masters so ummm ya Happy Hour started early today,Bet the poli board can't wait LMAO
happy good friday
Backatchya Syd
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Report: Kareem Hunt won’t return to Cleveland, Browns think he has lost speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 9, 2023, 12:10 PM EDTLast summer, Browns running back Kareem Hunt thought he deserved more money. Now that he’s a free agent, he’s finding that NFL teams don’t think he deserves much.
Hunt will not be back in Cleveland, where the Browns think his speed is slipping, according to Terry Pluto, cleveland.com.
Last year Hunt averaged a career-low 3.8 yards per carry and a career-low 6.0 yards per catch, so the numbers would seem to confirm the sense that Hunt doesn’t have the big-play speed he had earlier in his career.
Hunt is 27, which might not seem old, but running backs don’t age well. Hunt’s best days may be behind him.
It’s been a rough year to be a free agent running back, as NFL teams are increasingly concluding that they can get just as much production from young running backs on cheap contracts as they can from veteran free agents. Hunt joins Jerick McKinnon, Ezekiel Elliott, Leonard Fournette, J.D. McKissic, Mark Ingram and other well-known veteran running backs who aren’t generating much interest.
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Report: Kareem Hunt won’t return to Cleveland, Browns think he has lost speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 9, 2023, 12:10 PM EDTLast summer, Browns running back Kareem Hunt thought he deserved more money. Now that he’s a free agent, he’s finding that NFL teams don’t think he deserves much.
Hunt will not be back in Cleveland, where the Browns think his speed is slipping, according to Terry Pluto, cleveland.com.
Last year Hunt averaged a career-low 3.8 yards per carry and a career-low 6.0 yards per catch, so the numbers would seem to confirm the sense that Hunt doesn’t have the big-play speed he had earlier in his career.
Hunt is 27, which might not seem old, but running backs don’t age well. Hunt’s best days may be behind him.
It’s been a rough year to be a free agent running back, as NFL teams are increasingly concluding that they can get just as much production from young running backs on cheap contracts as they can from veteran free agents. Hunt joins Jerick McKinnon, Ezekiel Elliott, Leonard Fournette, J.D. McKissic, Mark Ingram and other well-known veteran running backs who aren’t generating much interest.
Report: Kareem Hunt won’t return to Cleveland, Browns think he has lost speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 9, 2023, 12:10 PM EDTLast summer, Browns running back Kareem Hunt thought he deserved more money. Now that he’s a free agent, he’s finding that NFL teams don’t think he deserves much.
Hunt will not be back in Cleveland, where the Browns think his speed is slipping, according to Terry Pluto, cleveland.com.
Last year Hunt averaged a career-low 3.8 yards per carry and a career-low 6.0 yards per catch, so the numbers would seem to confirm the sense that Hunt doesn’t have the big-play speed he had earlier in his career.
Hunt is 27, which might not seem old, but running backs don’t age well. Hunt’s best days may be behind him.
It’s been a rough year to be a free agent running back, as NFL teams are increasingly concluding that they can get just as much production from young running backs on cheap contracts as they can from veteran free agents. Hunt joins Jerick McKinnon, Ezekiel Elliott, Leonard Fournette, J.D. McKissic, Mark Ingram and other well-known veteran running backs who aren’t generating much interest.
He'll wind up being a bungle I bet...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Report: Kareem Hunt won’t return to Cleveland, Browns think he has lost speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 9, 2023, 12:10 PM EDTLast summer, Browns running back Kareem Hunt thought he deserved more money. Now that he’s a free agent, he’s finding that NFL teams don’t think he deserves much.
Hunt will not be back in Cleveland, where the Browns think his speed is slipping, according to Terry Pluto, cleveland.com.
Last year Hunt averaged a career-low 3.8 yards per carry and a career-low 6.0 yards per catch, so the numbers would seem to confirm the sense that Hunt doesn’t have the big-play speed he had earlier in his career.
Hunt is 27, which might not seem old, but running backs don’t age well. Hunt’s best days may be behind him.
It’s been a rough year to be a free agent running back, as NFL teams are increasingly concluding that they can get just as much production from young running backs on cheap contracts as they can from veteran free agents. Hunt joins Jerick McKinnon, Ezekiel Elliott, Leonard Fournette, J.D. McKissic, Mark Ingram and other well-known veteran running backs who aren’t generating much interest.
He'll wind up being a bungle I bet...
He'll wind up being a bungle I bet...
And I'm betting they take a younger & faster Achane for the rookie money and X-factor to add to their weapons.
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And I'm betting they take a younger & faster Achane for the rookie money and X-factor to add to their weapons.
Could very well happen..
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Report: Kareem Hunt won’t return to Cleveland, Browns think he has lost speed
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 9, 2023, 12:10 PM EDTLast summer, Browns running back Kareem Hunt thought he deserved more money. Now that he’s a free agent, he’s finding that NFL teams don’t think he deserves much.
Hunt will not be back in Cleveland, where the Browns think his speed is slipping, according to Terry Pluto, cleveland.com.
Last year Hunt averaged a career-low 3.8 yards per carry and a career-low 6.0 yards per catch, so the numbers would seem to confirm the sense that Hunt doesn’t have the big-play speed he had earlier in his career.
Hunt is 27, which might not seem old, but running backs don’t age well. Hunt’s best days may be behind him.
It’s been a rough year to be a free agent running back, as NFL teams are increasingly concluding that they can get just as much production from young running backs on cheap contracts as they can from veteran free agents. Hunt joins Jerick McKinnon, Ezekiel Elliott, Leonard Fournette, J.D. McKissic, Mark Ingram and other well-known veteran running backs who aren’t generating much interest.
He'll wind up being a bungle I bet...
He'll wind up being a bungle I bet...
Commanders Reunite Chiefs Ex Kareem Hunt With Eric Bieniemy?
Washington Commanders offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy coached Kareem Hunt in 2017 and 2018 with the Kansas City Chiefs. -
I don't like that we call him slow. That freakin' guy coulda' ran like a deer, it wouldn't have mattered. Every time he got the ball there were guys all around him. It's like the D always knew he was getting the ball. As a Brown Kareem did everything we asked of him. Sit on the bench. Come in and spell Nick. Come in and make a catch for a first down then go sit down. That's a pill to swallow for a league leading rusher. And he did it all with a great team attitude. I'll never forget the block he threw along the sideline to give Baker room to get a super crucial first down in our playoff run.
I hope it comes out that we deny saying that he's lost a step. (even if he has) I judge guys by what they did while they were on our team. And when Nick was injured, Hunt carried the load without missing a beat. We had the best backfield tandem in the league while he was here.
Like Watson, I'm not going to talk about Hunt's off-field actions that lead to him becoming a Brown (I certainly don't approve). He was a good Brown. And hopefully Watson will be a good Brown.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
I don't like that we call him slow. That freakin' guy coulda' ran like a deer, it wouldn't have mattered. Every time he got the ball there were guys all around him. It's like the D always knew he was getting the ball. As a Brown Kareem did everything we asked of him. Sit on the bench. Come in and spell Nick. Come in and make a catch for a first down then go sit down. That's a pill to swallow for a league leading rusher. And he did it all with a great team attitude. I'll never forget the block he threw along the sideline to give Baker room to get a super crucial first down in our playoff run.
I hope it comes out that we deny saying that he's lost a step. (even if he has) I judge guys by what they did while they were on our team. And when Nick was injured, Hunt carried the load without missing a beat. We had the best backfield tandem in the league while he was here.
Like Watson, I'm not going to talk about Hunt's off-field actions that lead to him becoming a Brown (I certainly don't approve). He was a good Brown. And hopefully Watson will be a good Brown.
I don't like that we call him slow. That freakin' guy coulda' ran like a deer, it wouldn't have mattered. Every time he got the ball there were guys all around him. It's like the D always knew he was getting the ball. As a Brown Kareem did everything we asked of him. Sit on the bench. Come in and spell Nick. Come in and make a catch for a first down then go sit down. That's a pill to swallow for a league leading rusher. And he did it all with a great team attitude. I'll never forget the block he threw along the sideline to give Baker room to get a super crucial first down in our playoff run.
I hope it comes out that we deny saying that he's lost a step. (even if he has) I judge guys by what they did while they were on our team. And when Nick was injured, Hunt carried the load without missing a beat. We had the best backfield tandem in the league while he was here.
Like Watson, I'm not going to talk about Hunt's off-field actions that lead to him becoming a Brown (I certainly don't approve). He was a good Brown. And hopefully Watson will be a good Brown.
man i just loved how angry he ran
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I don't like that we call him slow. That freakin' guy coulda' ran like a deer, it wouldn't have mattered. Every time he got the ball there were guys all around him. It's like the D always knew he was getting the ball. As a Brown Kareem did everything we asked of him. Sit on the bench. Come in and spell Nick. Come in and make a catch for a first down then go sit down. That's a pill to swallow for a league leading rusher. And he did it all with a great team attitude. I'll never forget the block he threw along the sideline to give Baker room to get a super crucial first down in our playoff run.
I hope it comes out that we deny saying that he's lost a step. (even if he has) I judge guys by what they did while they were on our team. And when Nick was injured, Hunt carried the load without missing a beat. We had the best backfield tandem in the league while he was here.
Like Watson, I'm not going to talk about Hunt's off-field actions that lead to him becoming a Brown (I certainly don't approve). He was a good Brown. And hopefully Watson will be a good Brown.
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I don't like that we call him slow. That freakin' guy coulda' ran like a deer, it wouldn't have mattered. Every time he got the ball there were guys all around him. It's like the D always knew he was getting the ball. As a Brown Kareem did everything we asked of him. Sit on the bench. Come in and spell Nick. Come in and make a catch for a first down then go sit down. That's a pill to swallow for a league leading rusher. And he did it all with a great team attitude. I'll never forget the block he threw along the sideline to give Baker room to get a super crucial first down in our playoff run.
I hope it comes out that we deny saying that he's lost a step. (even if he has) I judge guys by what they did while they were on our team. And when Nick was injured, Hunt carried the load without missing a beat. We had the best backfield tandem in the league while he was here.
Like Watson, I'm not going to talk about Hunt's off-field actions that lead to him becoming a Brown (I certainly don't approve). He was a good Brown. And hopefully Watson will be a good Brown.
man i just loved how angry he ran
man i just loved how angry he ran
My line was, He runs like his hair is on fire!
I hope he lands a job in Washington.
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But what did having the best RB tandem in the league and top rated OL do for us, for at least a few years? We got one playoff win against the Steelers who turned it over to us 7 times. - It's about the passing attack. You want consistent playoffs? Be able to pass the ball well. You want consistent shots at the championship? Be able to pass the ball well and play really good defense.
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Basically, our problem is one of these people:
Management
Dee Haslam Managing and Principal Partner
Jimmy Haslam Managing and Principal Partner
Whitney Haslam Johnson Partner
JW Johnson Executive Vice President, Partner
Andrew Berry Executive Vice President, Football Operations & General Manager
Paul DePodesta Chief Strategy Officer
David A. Jenkins Executive Vice President, Chief Operating Officer
Gregory Rush Chief Financial Officer
Eric Clouse Chief Commercial Officer
Mike Nikolaus Chief Human Resources Officer
Peter John-Baptiste Senior Vice President, Communications
Phil Dangerfield Vice President, Operations
Ted Tywang Vice President, General Counsel
Josh Glessing Vice President, Strategy
Katie Murphy Director, Managing Partner Operations
Will Black Manager, Managing Partner Operations
Allison Likar Executive Assistant
Monica Lince Manager, Business Operations
Jim Brown Special AdvisorFootball Operations
Catherine Raiche Assistant GM & Vice President of Football Operations
Bob Quinn Senior Personnel/ Coaching Executive
Jimmy Raye III Senior Executive Advisor to the GM
Tyler Hamblin Director of Football Operations
Joy Tapajcik Player Personnel & Football Operations Process Manager
Shane Normandeau Coordinator, Football Ops
Football Administration
Chris Cooper Vice President, Football Administration
Taylor Young Director, Football Administration
Callum Mahoney Salary Cap & Contract Analyst (this guy's gotta be ok...my grandson's name is Callum)
Check out the full list: https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/front-office-roster/
Basically, our problem
Phil Dangerfield Vice President, Operations
Poor guy. Just like his Dad, he gets no respect. Must be a family curse.
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Phil Dangerfield Vice President, Operations
Ever see so many vice presidents before? They have to have a separate Christmas party just for vice presidents.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Ever see so many vice presidents before? They have to have a separate Christmas party just for vice presidents.
Seems like a lot, but in any business any lead in some segment of the business usually gets a VP title. I guess you could call them manager of operations, but what's the difference what you call them?
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Ever see so many vice presidents before? They have to have a separate Christmas party just for vice presidents.
Well when you bring in a lot of players with a lot of vices, you have to have the appropriate personnel to keep up with them all.??
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Ever see so many vice presidents before? They have to have a separate Christmas party just for vice presidents.
Seems like a lot, but in any business any lead in some segment of the business usually gets a VP title. I guess you could call them manager of operations, but what's the difference what you call them?
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Tendered this guy late last week. Exactly what you look for in your end-of-the roster ST guys. Signed early last year from Bears PS, somehow played in 7 games and I never heard of him.
Now do that again with DI..
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