Browns' Perrion Winfrey arrested on misdemeanor assault complaint
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Except for the 6 minutes between post - post.?
Meh, spotty reception. Verizon likes to think they're the tops... But the golf course would argue otherwise.
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lol. It's usually better to be short than long.
First time out this year. I was long, short, past, around, above, below... Any direction capable of putting a ball in our physical universe that wasn't the hole I'm positive I found.
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First time out this year. I was long, short, past, around, above, below...
1st round is tomorrow 7:45 shotgun. Just took my first swings in my front yard. Really bad right rotator cuff. No more high finish poses.
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It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
He's had plenty of time to wake up... He's going by way of Johnny Fucktard.. Just a different path...
? Back with Johnny Fratboy, I used to tell everyone "Relax Jim Kelly was a party animal coming out of college just like former Atlanta Falcon Brett Favre. And Kelly is still Irish." The difference? Favre and Kelly liked football enough to commit to it for a career. Fratboy liked his rear view mirror and the temporary fame from it.
About our current Romper Room dilemma of "will poor little Perrion get a chance to grow up?" He's not Albert Haynesworth or he would have been a 1st round pick by a team that actually studied and scouted DTs last year. Anyone that has a pulse knows our FO was way too smart to prioritize the DT position. Consequently, they drafted a guy that most other teams doing their research stayed away from. Now here comes the "Oh yeah? He was a only 4th round draft pick so what did we have to lose?" My answer? For a team that wasn't entering the draft until round 3 for a position group that is supposed to protect the LBers from offensive linemen AND stop the run - how'd we do? 4 LBers on IR and our staring DTs were Raggedy Ann and Andy. It was so bad we had to use a guy that failed in Jax as a DE (Taven Bryan) in our DT rotation at times.
So here we are celebrating FA signings like Maurice Hurst and Trysten Hill as what a terrific job this FO is doing. I did it too before I really looked into what was actually done to better the IDL personnel. YES, Tomlinson was a very good acquisition as a run stopper. That said, Minnesota was very weak on defense and I think the Giants just rushed for another TD on them as we speak. I bring that up because Tomlinson is going to need something more reliable than wet band aids like Trysten Hill and Maurice Hurst going tag team with him inside/upfront. Let's be honest, we're really only wishful thinking Hill and Hurst to be something they've been incapable of thus far in the NFL.
Do we really want to be listening to another year of "Browns fans just need to be patient?" What has this FO done to accomplish such unchallenged tenure? They're the only ones not getting fired for how this roster has been built. All these 1 year contracts aren't a foundation for the future - the Browns HAVE TO FREAKIN DRAFT BETTER or they stay in the basement and only coaches will get fired for the incompetence of the FO. A FO that hasn't draft well and traded away the 1st 2 rounds for 2 consecutive years has now cornered itself into no margin of error in the draft this time around.
How are the the Browns going to compete at the IDL? As much as I can't stand trading away any more future picks - they gotta move up and draft either Mazi Star Smith or Keeanu Benton to change the way this defense does business on game day. That, or stick with Legally Blind fantasy football keeping Cleveland in the last place comfort zone...
? Back with Johnny Fratboy, I used to tell everyone "Relax Jim Kelly was a party animal coming out of college just like former Atlanta Falcon Brett Favre. And Kelly is still Irish." The difference? Favre and Kelly liked football enough to commit to it for a career. Fratboy liked his rear view mirror and the temporary fame from it.
About our current Romper Room dilemma of "will poor little Perrion get a chance to grow up?" He's not Albert Haynesworth or he would have been a 1st round pick by a team that actually studied and scouted DTs last year. Anyone that has a pulse knows our FO was way too smart to prioritize the DT position. Consequently, they drafted a guy that most other teams doing their research stayed away from. Now here comes the "Oh yeah? He was a only 4th round draft pick so what did we have to lose?" My answer? For a team that wasn't entering the draft until round 3 for a position group that is supposed to protect the LBers from offensive linemen AND stop the run - how'd we do? 4 LBers on IR and our staring DTs were Raggedy Ann and Andy. It was so bad we had to use a guy that failed in Jax as a DE (Taven Bryan) in our DT rotation at times.
So here we are celebrating FA signings like Maurice Hurst and Trysten Hill as what a terrific job this FO is doing. I did it too before I really looked into what was actually done to better the IDL personnel. YES, Tomlinson was a very good acquisition as a run stopper. That said, Minnesota was very weak on defense and I think the Giants just rushed for another TD on them as we speak. I bring that up because Tomlinson is going to need something more reliable than wet band aids like Trysten Hill and Maurice Hurst going tag team with him inside/upfront. Let's be honest, we're really only wishful thinking Hill and Hurst to be something they've been incapable of thus far in the NFL.
Do we really want to be listening to another year of "Browns fans just need to be patient?" What has this FO done to accomplish such unchallenged tenure? They're the only ones not getting fired for how this roster has been built. All these 1 year contracts aren't a foundation for the future - the Browns HAVE TO FREAKIN DRAFT BETTER or they stay in the basement and only coaches will get fired for the incompetence of the FO. A FO that hasn't draft well and traded away the 1st 2 rounds for 2 consecutive years has now cornered itself into no margin of error in the draft this time around.
How are the the Browns going to compete at the IDL? As much as I can't stand trading away any more future picks - they gotta move up and draft either Mazi Star Smith or Keeanu Benton to change the way this defense does business on game day. That, or stick with Legally Blind fantasy football keeping Cleveland in the last place comfort zone...
I might disagree with some of your take, but I do agree, and think, we will trade up. We have had conversations about how the Browns don't need to draft 8 players. That leaves trade back for a pick next year, trade up, or both. I am not sure we will move up in to the 2nd round. I am not going to pull out trade charts to see what the various costs might be, but if a few players we really like are there at the top of the 3rd, I see a move. We might even be able to move up, send off a 4th rounder and pick up a extra pick next year all in one deal.
I'd add Gervin Dexter to the list of defenders you mentioned as players who might be on the target list. We seem to have shown a lot of interest in him.
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? Back with Johnny Fratboy, I used to tell everyone "Relax Jim Kelly was a party animal coming out of college just like former Atlanta Falcon Brett Favre. And Kelly is still Irish." The difference? Favre and Kelly liked football enough to commit to it for a career. Fratboy liked his rear view mirror and the temporary fame from it.
About our current Romper Room dilemma of "will poor little Perrion get a chance to grow up?" He's not Albert Haynesworth or he would have been a 1st round pick by a team that actually studied and scouted DTs last year. Anyone that has a pulse knows our FO was way too smart to prioritize the DT position. Consequently, they drafted a guy that most other teams doing their research stayed away from. Now here comes the "Oh yeah? He was a only 4th round draft pick so what did we have to lose?" My answer? For a team that wasn't entering the draft until round 3 for a position group that is supposed to protect the LBers from offensive linemen AND stop the run - how'd we do? 4 LBers on IR and our staring DTs were Raggedy Ann and Andy. It was so bad we had to use a guy that failed in Jax as a DE (Taven Bryan) in our DT rotation at times.
So here we are celebrating FA signings like Maurice Hurst and Trysten Hill as what a terrific job this FO is doing. I did it too before I really looked into what was actually done to better the IDL personnel. YES, Tomlinson was a very good acquisition as a run stopper. That said, Minnesota was very weak on defense and I think the Giants just rushed for another TD on them as we speak. I bring that up because Tomlinson is going to need something more reliable than wet band aids like Trysten Hill and Maurice Hurst going tag team with him inside/upfront. Let's be honest, we're really only wishful thinking Hill and Hurst to be something they've been incapable of thus far in the NFL.
Do we really want to be listening to another year of "Browns fans just need to be patient?" What has this FO done to accomplish such unchallenged tenure? They're the only ones not getting fired for how this roster has been built. All these 1 year contracts aren't a foundation for the future - the Browns HAVE TO FREAKIN DRAFT BETTER or they stay in the basement and only coaches will get fired for the incompetence of the FO. A FO that hasn't draft well and traded away the 1st 2 rounds for 2 consecutive years has now cornered itself into no margin of error in the draft this time around.
How are the the Browns going to compete at the IDL? As much as I can't stand trading away any more future picks - they gotta move up and draft either Mazi Star Smith or Keeanu Benton to change the way this defense does business on game day. That, or stick with Legally Blind fantasy football keeping Cleveland in the last place comfort zone...
I might disagree with some of your take, but I do agree, and think, we will trade up. We have had conversations about how the Browns don't need to draft 8 players. That leaves trade back for a pick next year, trade up, or both. I am not sure we will move up in to the 2nd round. I am not going to pull out trade charts to see what the various costs might be, but if a few players we really like are there at the top of the 3rd, I see a move. We might even be able to move up, send off a 4th rounder and pick up a extra pick next year all in one deal.
I'd add Gervin Dexter to the list of defenders you mentioned as players who might be on the target list. We seem to have shown a lot of interest in him.
I might disagree with some of your take, but I do agree, and think, we will trade up. We have had conversations about how the Browns don't need to draft 8 players. That leaves trade back for a pick next year, trade up, or both. I am not sure we will move up in to the 2nd round. I am not going to pull out trade charts to see what the various costs might be, but if a few players we really like are there at the top of the 3rd, I see a move. We might even be able to move up, send off a 4th rounder and pick up a extra pick next year all in one deal.
I'd add Gervin Dexter to the list of defenders you mentioned as players who might be on the target list. We seem to have shown a lot of interest in him.
Yeah, I'm hearing Dexter is one of the guys they might be interested in. I'm a little surprised Lindy's rates him 7th and Wisconsin's Keeanu Benton 8th with both guys getting a 7.1 grade. I'll feel a lot better if I see the FO knows the DT position/cupboard is still a little empty in their approach to this draft. A guy that could be in our draft slot if we don't trade up is Alabama's Byron Young (who started 5 games as a true freshman in a program that's hard to accomplish). He closed out his 4 year career as a 2nd Team All American and I think he's flying under the radar. Having said that, Ozzie Newsome went to Bama (and he's still helping the Ravens a lot this offseason) so that could be 1 guy that would ruin our shot at this kid if we don't trade up.
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It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )Usually they put another batter in the batter's box after strike 3. This article mentions Winfrey just hit strike 4 with only 1 year under his belt. Do the Browns really need this kind of guy in the locker room? If his head isn't clear - it's not like he's going to be easy to coach for whatever that's worth.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )Usually they put another batter in the batter's box after strike 3. This article mentions Winfrey just hit strike 4 with only 1 year under his belt. Do the Browns really need this kind of guy in the locker room? If his head isn't clear - it's not like he's going to be easy to coach for whatever that's worth.
Usually they put another batter in the batter's box after strike 3. This article mentions Winfrey just hit strike 4 with only 1 year under his belt. Do the Browns really need this kind of guy in the locker room? If his head isn't clear - it's not like he's going to be easy to coach for whatever that's worth.
I got the impression he fell in the Draft because of character concerns. Now, I'm not saying I would draft only choirboys if I was a GM, but if I did select a guy with character concerns, immediately after drafting him I would sit him down and tell him: "Here's the deal. You were a FILL IN ROUND talent who fell to the FILL IN round because of character concerns. We believe you can be an asset to the FILL IN THE BLANK football team if you grow up and act like a professional. This is not a suggestion, and this is the last time we are having this conversation. Your professional future is on you. If you put in the work, and stay out of trouble, we will do everything to help you be the best NFL player you can be. If you continue to be a problem, you will no longer be here. Deal?"
Myles Garrett was calling this out like the second week of the season.
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How are the the Browns going to compete at the IDL? As much as I can't stand trading away any more future picks - they gotta move up and draft either Mazi Star Smith or Keeanu Benton to change the way this defense does business on game day. That, or stick with Legally Blind fantasy football keeping Cleveland in the last place comfort zone...
But, but, but..................we just interviewed Gervon Dexter yesterday. For some reason that does not look like a trade up for DT according to tia.?
But, but, but..................we just interviewed Gervon Dexter yesterday. For some reason that does not look like a trade up for DT according to tia.?
Considering I called Dex a day 2 pick... Browns likely wouldn't have to trade up for him.
But he does fit the height, wingspan mold that Schwartz seems to have built over the course of his drafting career.
Not a huge fan of what showed up on film. But there could be several causes for that. Not like Florida has a great coaching staff.
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It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )Usually they put another batter in the batter's box after strike 3. This article mentions Winfrey just hit strike 4 with only 1 year under his belt. Do the Browns really need this kind of guy in the locker room? If his head isn't clear - it's not like he's going to be easy to coach for whatever that's worth.
This article mentions Winfrey just hit strike 4 with only 1 year under his belt. Do the Browns really need this kind of guy in the locker room? If his head isn't clear - it's not like he's going to be easy to coach for whatever that's worth
Even though I haven't liked him since he got here and...and...what was it, he was holding out signing his contract like he was a 1st rounder? (something like that I think). He looks good gettin' off the bus so I'd like to see if perhaps Schwartz can make something out of him.
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I don't look at the hold out as a negative. That would have been done on the advice of his agent. I don't recall all the specifics around that, but if the players around him were unsigned he is going to wait to see what those players received. Also, if players around him were getting something that he wasn't being offered, that could trigger a hold out.
That is simply a matter of business and not necessarily a reflection on the player.
My feeling is to wait and see what happened. He grabbed a woman....what exactly does that mean?
I too hope we stick with the guy and see if he can be a force for this team. That can change if it turns out that his grabbing her resulted in a dislocated shoulder or something more than a fingernail scratch on the wrist.
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I don't look at the hold out as a negative. That would have been done on the advice of his agent. I don't recall all the specifics around that, but if the players around him were unsigned he is going to wait to see what those players received. Also, if players around him were getting something that he wasn't being offered, that could trigger a hold out.
That is simply a matter of business and not necessarily a reflection on the player.
My feeling is to wait and see what happened. He grabbed a woman....what exactly does that mean?
I too hope we stick with the guy and see if he can be a force for this team. That can change if it turns out that his grabbing her resulted in a dislocated shoulder or something more than a fingernail scratch on the wrist.
I don't look at the hold out as a negative. That would have been done on the advice of his agent. I don't recall all the specifics around that, but if the players around him were unsigned he is going to wait to see what those players received. Also, if players around him were getting something that he wasn't being offered, that could trigger a hold out.
I believe you are correct about this - someone above Winfrey in draft selection gummed up the works from what I remember. It wasn't Winfrey out of nowhere holding out, something above happened that threw off the contract demands below.
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It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )Well Jimmy Haslam is the owner so nothing would surprise me. Believe it or not, the holdout didn't really bother me as strange as it was. The thing that jumped out at me in the article you shared is this cut and paste from it. "And the Browns experienced that rockiness in the first year of his NFL career. From being benched in a preseason game for being late to practice, to getting suspended from a regular season game for continued tardiness, to sustaining a concussion from getting into a scooter accident... It's the trend of him showing up late to work for a sport/career/profession he's supposed to love. When that's a trend, how much more can you show your employer that you just don't care? Teenagers show up late to jobs when it's something like washing dishes. That's because it's just a job - not a career. For an NFL team in need of a legit starter and/or quality help for the rotation - Winfrey's attitude left a lot to be desired toward the 1st/only team willing to take him 4 rounds into the draft.
The Browns almost have to keep him beyond the draft and into training camp. A kinder, less caffeinated Flugel suddenly thinks we need to see how he he responds to the adversity in training camp. That said, if he doesn't bring a better attitude - I doubt Schwartz would hesitate to cut a repeating trend. In saying that, it still means Schwartz can help the guy - just not for this team.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )Well Jimmy Haslam is the owner so nothing would surprise me. Believe it or not, the holdout didn't really bother me as strange as it was. The thing that jumped out at me in the article you shared is this cut and paste from it. "And the Browns experienced that rockiness in the first year of his NFL career. From being benched in a preseason game for being late to practice, to getting suspended from a regular season game for continued tardiness, to sustaining a concussion from getting into a scooter accident... It's the trend of him showing up late to work for a sport/career/profession he's supposed to love. When that's a trend, how much more can you show your employer that you just don't care? Teenagers show up late to jobs when it's something like washing dishes. That's because it's just a job - not a career. For an NFL team in need of a legit starter and/or quality help for the rotation - Winfrey's attitude left a lot to be desired toward the 1st/only team willing to take him 4 rounds into the draft.
The Browns almost have to keep him beyond the draft and into training camp. A kinder, less caffeinated Flugel suddenly thinks we need to see how he he responds to the adversity in training camp. That said, if he doesn't bring a better attitude - I doubt Schwartz would hesitate to cut a repeating trend. In saying that, it still means Schwartz can help the guy - just not for this team.
Well Jimmy Haslam is the owner so nothing would surprise me. The thing that jumped out at me in the article you shared - it's the trend of him showing up late to work for a game he's supposed to love. When that's a trend, how much more can you show your employer that you just don't care about the profession/career? Teenagers show up late to jobs when it's something like washing dishes. That's because it's just a job - not a career. For an NFL team in need of a legit starter and/or quality help for the rotation - Winfrey's attitude left a lot to be desired toward the 1st/only team willing to take him 4 rounds into the draft.
The Browns almost have to keep him beyond the draft and into training camp. That said, if he doesn't bring a better attitude - I doubt Schwartz would hesitate to cut a repeating trend.
I said Johnny Fucktard?... Maybe I meant Corey Coleman or Josh Gordon?
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Well Jimmy Haslam is the owner so nothing would surprise me. The thing that jumped out at me in the article you shared - it's the trend of him showing up late to work for a game he's supposed to love. When that's a trend, how much more can you show your employer that you just don't care about the profession/career? Teenagers show up late to jobs when it's something like washing dishes. That's because it's just a job - not a career. For an NFL team in need of a legit starter and/or quality help for the rotation - Winfrey's attitude left a lot to be desired toward the 1st/only team willing to take him 4 rounds into the draft.
The Browns almost have to keep him beyond the draft and into training camp. That said, if he doesn't bring a better attitude - I doubt Schwartz would hesitate to cut a repeating trend.
I said Johnny Fucktard?... Maybe I meant Corey Coleman or Josh Gordon?
I said Johnny Fucktard?... Maybe I meant Corey Coleman or Josh Gordon?
Or maybe one of those one year contract veterans who signed to take the money and run to the bank rather than on the field for the Browns. So forgettable that I can't remember their names anymore.?
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Prior to Tomlinson being signed, PW was our most talented IDL. So he's going to be given quite a bit of leash, even in this sort of instance.
I'd be surprised if he was let go.
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Prior to Tomlinson being signed, PW was our most talented IDL. So he's going to be given quite a bit of leash, even in this sort of instance.
I'd be surprised if he was let go.
Prior to Tomlinson being signed, PW was our most talented IDL. So he's going to be given quite a bit of leash, even in this sort of instance.
I'd be surprised if he was let go.
In most cases I would think he's given this season to "Turn the corner" mentally,physically spiritually and in all ways of life.. Although we know it requires one bite at a time...
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Prior to Tomlinson being signed, PW was our most talented IDL. So he's going to be given quite a bit of leash, even in this sort of instance.
I'd be surprised if he was let go.
In most cases I would think he's given this season to "Turn the corner" mentally,physically spiritually and in all ways of life.. Although we know it requires one bite at a time...
In most cases I would think he's given this season to "Turn the corner" mentally,physically spiritually and in all ways of life.. Although we know it requires one bite at a time...
Mid-rant I started thinking it wouldn't suck for any of us if this guy showed up ready to go with some sic em, sock em, and sack em.
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In most cases I would think he's given this season to "Turn the corner" mentally,physically spiritually and in all ways of life.. Although we know it requires one bite at a time...
Mid-rant I started thinking it wouldn't suck for any of us if this guy showed up ready to go with some sic em, sock em, and sack em.
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It’s time to pull the plug on Perrion Winfrey
CORY KINNANSat, Apr 15, 2023, 12:45 PM EDT( I personally don't think that they'll cut him )Well Jimmy Haslam is the owner so nothing would surprise me. Believe it or not, the holdout didn't really bother me as strange as it was. The thing that jumped out at me in the article you shared is this cut and paste from it. "And the Browns experienced that rockiness in the first year of his NFL career. From being benched in a preseason game for being late to practice, to getting suspended from a regular season game for continued tardiness, to sustaining a concussion from getting into a scooter accident... It's the trend of him showing up late to work for a sport/career/profession he's supposed to love. When that's a trend, how much more can you show your employer that you just don't care? Teenagers show up late to jobs when it's something like washing dishes. That's because it's just a job - not a career. For an NFL team in need of a legit starter and/or quality help for the rotation - Winfrey's attitude left a lot to be desired toward the 1st/only team willing to take him 4 rounds into the draft.
The Browns almost have to keep him beyond the draft and into training camp. A kinder, less caffeinated Flugel suddenly thinks we need to see how he he responds to the adversity in training camp. That said, if he doesn't bring a better attitude - I doubt Schwartz would hesitate to cut a repeating trend. In saying that, it still means Schwartz can help the guy - just not for this team.
It's the trend of him showing up late to work
As a manager of a logistics operation, I hated that. I never showed up late for work since the first day of my first ever job. And ya know why? Because I can tell time!
I had a worker who showed up late about once a week. Let's call him/her Shit For Brains. So, in one particular review I said, Shit For Brains, I can have you to work on time every day. And SFB said, no boss, I just can't help it. I said, I can do it. But it'll cost the company money. You see, every day that you punch in on time, a crisp, new, one hundred dollar bill will be spit out by the time clock. SFB immediately said, 'Oh yeah! I'd be on time every day!' So I said, Well SFB, you just told me that you could be on time to work every day if you wanted to.
Winfrey & SFB feel the same way. It's not important to them to be on time....or to be reliable.
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