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  • OrionO Orion

    They're all over the place on this aren't they?   It's the Haslem way.  Whomever had their ear last....

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    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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    @orion said:

    They're all over the place on this aren't they?   It's the Haslem way.  Whomever had their ear last....

    I never really believed that the Haslams had any interest in renovating the existing stadium the second their report came out describing CBS as a hastily built stadium that was built on the cheap.

    That's owner speak for: "You homeys better cough up some serious money because this dump ain't gonna cut it, yo."

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      Did anyone else constantly check in on that stadium cam when the stadium was being built?  I sure did.  It was my 'fix' to hold me over during 'no Browns'.   I didn't even watch much football during that time.  I didn't have a dog in the race.  

      I hope they build a new stadium with a retractable roof.  With a special sealed off section where, during winter weather games the roof can be closed but that 'special section' can have cold sideways rain / snow pumped in for the lumberjacks that enjoy that weather.  🙂     

      ...and let there be Brownie Elf statues constructed here and there throughout the grounds.  

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        https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1648028156920492037?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1648028156920492037%7Ctwgr%5E6bf9b2a74e5a313ea5bdcbda5bdcbe0577e81852%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

        https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

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          Did anyone else constantly check in on that stadium cam when the stadium was being built?  I sure did.  It was my 'fix' to hold me over during 'no Browns'.   I didn't even watch much football during that time.  I didn't have a dog in the race.  

          I hope they build a new stadium with a retractable roof.  With a special sealed off section where, during winter weather games the roof can be closed but that 'special section' can have cold sideways rain / snow pumped in for the lumberjacks that enjoy that weather.  🙂     

          ...and let there be Brownie Elf statues constructed here and there throughout the grounds.  

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          @orion said:

          ..and let there be Brownie Elf statues constructed here and there throughout the grounds.  

          And give the little fairy a deserving companion too.

          Tinker Bell (Disney character).png

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            https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1648028156920492037?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1648028156920492037%7Ctwgr%5E6bf9b2a74e5a313ea5bdcbda5bdcbe0577e81852%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

            https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

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            @vambo said:

            https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1648028156920492037?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1648028156920492037%7Ctwgr%5E6bf9b2a74e5a313ea5bdcbda5bdcbe0577e81852%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

            https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

            I'm not happy about a Columbus idea. I'd cancel my season tickets for sure.

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              @vambo said:

              https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1648028156920492037?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1648028156920492037%7Ctwgr%5E6bf9b2a74e5a313ea5bdcbda5bdcbe0577e81852%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

              https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

              I'm not happy about a Columbus idea. I'd cancel my season tickets for sure.

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              @bob806 said:

              I'm not happy about a Columbus idea. I'd cancel my season tickets for sure.

              Where would you suggest that they play while a new complex is being built?

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                @bob806 said:

                I'm not happy about a Columbus idea. I'd cancel my season tickets for sure.

                Where would you suggest that they play while a new complex is being built?

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                @orion said:

                Where would you suggest that they play while a new complex is being built?

                Triple the price and bring back the throwback unis in Canton. Won't have to get rid of the dog masks either, just the f'n Elf.?

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                  @bob806 said:

                  I'm not happy about a Columbus idea. I'd cancel my season tickets for sure.

                  Where would you suggest that they play while a new complex is being built?

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                  Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                  @orion said:

                  Where would you suggest that they play while a new complex is being built?

                  Akron or Canton. 

                  Two hours to Columbus, sorry it's just not appealing.

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                    @orion said:

                    Where would you suggest that they play while a new complex is being built?

                    Triple the price and bring back the throwback unis in Canton. Won't have to get rid of the dog masks either, just the f'n Elf.?

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                    @texasag1969 said:

                    Triple the price and bring back the throwback unis in Canton. Won't have to get rid of the dog masks either, just the f'n Elf.?

                    Fawcett stadium in Canton where the HOF is would make absolute sense...

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                      https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1648028156920492037?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1648028156920492037%7Ctwgr%5E6bf9b2a74e5a313ea5bdcbda5bdcbe0577e81852%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

                      https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

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                      @vambo said:

                      https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1648028156920492037?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1648028156920492037%7Ctwgr%5E6bf9b2a74e5a313ea5bdcbda5bdcbe0577e81852%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

                      https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/04/138395/ohio-stadium-could-become-home-to-the-cleveland-browns-in-the-future

                      Cool. 130 miles closer to my starting point.  Assuming I still have season tickets by the time this thing starts.  Columbus is only a 8 hour drive.  Stops included.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        @texasag1969 said:

                        Triple the price and bring back the throwback unis in Canton. Won't have to get rid of the dog masks either, just the f'n Elf.?

                        Fawcett stadium in Canton where the HOF is would make absolute sense...

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                        @nickers said:

                        Fawcett stadium in Canton where the HOF is would make absolute sense...

                        How many does it hold?  Is it even big enough to meet season ticket demand?

                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                          @nickers said:

                          Fawcett stadium in Canton where the HOF is would make absolute sense...

                          How many does it hold?  Is it even big enough to meet season ticket demand?

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                          Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                          @ballpeen said:

                          How many does it hold?  Is it even big enough to meet season ticket demand?

                          I read 23,000. Not big enough 🙁

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                            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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                            Let's see.... The Horseshoe holds over 100,000.

                            Fawcett Stadium or Akron U's stadium doesn't have a quarter that amount.

                            Get ready to drive, gentlemen!

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                              @ballpeen said:

                              How many does it hold?  Is it even big enough to meet season ticket demand?

                              I read 23,000. Not big enough 🙁

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                              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                              @bob806 said:

                              I read 23,000. Not big enough 🙁

                              Nope.  My guess is the team has maybe 40,000 or so season ticket holders.  You could cut their tickets in half, but you still would be near capacity.  It isn't good business to be totally sold out to season ticket holders.  You always want some tickets available to the general public.

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                                maybe not.

                                Look: Cleveland Browns Have Responded To Ohio Stadium Rumor (msn.com)

                                Sounds like they will find a way to keep playing in the stadium, or at minimum stay in the area.  Seems I read somewhere that Canton could easily add 20,000 seats, even if temporary bleacher type seating.

                                If they can get up towards 40,000+ seats, it could be doable. If all season ticket holders had to give up a couple of games a year, I could see that as working.  How they might decide how that works....random draw, so be it, don't complain, it is what it is.

                                We went through this when the Haslams upgraded scoreboards, club sections and concourses, added some upper endzone sections and whatnot.  It took a couple of years and we were able to work through it.  Maybe this takes 3 years depending on what all they are planning to do.

                                Kind of like a home remodel.  It causes some disruption and adjustment for a period of time, but you can still live there.  This is just a bigger project with a longer adjustment period.

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                                  Did anyone else constantly check in on that stadium cam when the stadium was being built?  I sure did.  It was my 'fix' to hold me over during 'no Browns'.   I didn't even watch much football during that time.  I didn't have a dog in the race.  

                                  I hope they build a new stadium with a retractable roof.  With a special sealed off section where, during winter weather games the roof can be closed but that 'special section' can have cold sideways rain / snow pumped in for the lumberjacks that enjoy that weather.  🙂     

                                  ...and let there be Brownie Elf statues constructed here and there throughout the grounds.  

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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                  @orion said:

                                  Did anyone else constantly check in on that stadium cam when the stadium was being built?  I sure did.  It was my 'fix' to hold me over during 'no Browns'.   I didn't even watch much football during that time.  I didn't have a dog in the race.  

                                  I hope they build a new stadium with a retractable roof.  With a special sealed off section where, during winter weather games the roof can be closed but that 'special section' can have cold sideways rain / snow pumped in for the lumberjacks that enjoy that weather.  🙂     

                                  ...and let there be Brownie Elf statues constructed here and there throughout the grounds.  

                                  Yep, and during the remodel when they add the scoreboards etc.  Looked at it every day.  Maybe several times a day when it looked like something showing real progress was in the works.  Some things you don't notice, then BAM, look at all those new steel beams!

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                                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                                    How much are Cuyahoga County residents going to be expected to pay?

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                                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                      Oh the twist and turns of this story!

                                      If they renovate CBS instead of building a new stadium, I predict down the road we'll have a Bears situation where tons of money is sunk into the existing stadium just for the team to eventually say "Eh, we still don't really care for this" and a new stadium has to get built anyway. The Bears appear to be leaving Chicago and rebuilt Soldier Field for the suburbs.

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                                        How much are Cuyahoga County residents going to be expected to pay?

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                                        @vaportrail said:

                                        How much are Cuyahoga County residents going to be expected to pay?

                                        In the end, who cares?  If a city wants to keep a team, they have to pay for stadiums, or at least a large portion.  It's not like people in the area are going to get a tax bill for $900.  They will pay it a nickel here, a nickel there over 20 years.

                                        We have been through a city and owner in a pissing contest over playing facilities and the team moved.  I hope people are smart enough to understand a NFL team is worth a lot of money to a community.

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                                          @vaportrail said:

                                          How much are Cuyahoga County residents going to be expected to pay?

                                          In the end, who cares?  If a city wants to keep a team, they have to pay for stadiums, or at least a large portion.  It's not like people in the area are going to get a tax bill for $900.  They will pay it a nickel here, a nickel there over 20 years.

                                          We have been through a city and owner in a pissing contest over playing facilities and the team moved.  I hope people are smart enough to understand a NFL team is worth a lot of money to a community.

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                                          @ballpeen said:

                                          We have been through a city and owner in a pissing contest over playing facilities and the team moved.  I hope people are smart enough to understand a NFL team is worth a lot of money to a community.

                                          And if they do it right, making a complex that ties into the waterfront,  it could be a place to visit.  Rather than a big concrete thing.  Look, if you've gotta fork out for a new stadium in order to keep the team (we don't want to lose them again, do we) then do the whole area up right.  Make it more than just a place to gather for ten football games a year.

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