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  • Yeah, it's a great day for our country. No more traitors' names on our military bases. 

    @cccjwh said:

    Yeah, it's a great day for our country. No more traitors' names on our military bases. 

    If abraham lincoln, ulysses grant and william t sherman didnt object im not sure a leftist internet troll carries a lot of weight. 

  • @fy56 said:

    Yawn. Yes of course, Johnson's pardon, your go to.  Everyone I'm sure is aware of Johnsons pardon. 

    There were a several reasons for the pardon. One being that treason would be nearly impossible to prove. Typically, pardons are granted for those already tried and convicted.  Not one confederate was ever tried or convicted of treason, which makes Johnson's "pardon" an empty one.

    The Souths aim was to succeed. Succession was not illegal or unconstitutional. Unlike people like you, Southerners believed in this nation's founding and the Constitution and were not anti-American in the least. The founders did not establish an all-powerful centralized government, but a confederation of sovereign states...states that make their own laws and elect their own leaders. 

    Traitors you say?

    Aldrich Ames spied for the Russians, Benedict Arnold for the British. What foreign power did Lee work for?

    Not every traitor was given the pardon with Johnson's Proclamation. There was an exception list where the traitors had to put in a "special application to the President". These traitors had to apply for a pardon for their treason. Over 12,000 traitors were given these pardons for treason. If they weren't traitors, why would they apply for a pardon for treason and have to take an oath? 

    Do you think Senate Davis's (from a slave state btw) definition of treason overrules the definition of treason in the Constitution? Again, which words do you not understand?

    "Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason"

    Your feelings mean nothing. The feelings on authors of articles written 150+ years after the facts, means nothing. Both United State Presidents during our Civil War pardoned Confederates of treason. Again, who need pardons for treason? Traitors do. That the United States wanted to try heal the wounds caused by these slaver traitors, has no bearing on them being traitors. 

    You can justify the slavers trying to succeed from our country. You can thank those groomers The Daughters of the Confederacy for your feelings on that subject.

    @cccjwh said:

    Not every traitor was given the pardon with Johnson's Proclamation. There was an exception list where the traitors had to put in a "special application to the President". These traitors had to apply for a pardon for their treason. Over 12,000 traitors were given these pardons for treason. If they weren't traitors, why would they apply for a pardon for treason and have to take an oath? 

    Do you think Senate Davis's (from a slave state btw) definition of treason overrules the definition of treason in the Constitution? Again, which words do you not understand?

    "Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason"

    Your feelings mean nothing. The feelings on authors of articles written 150+ years after the facts, means nothing. Both United State Presidents during our Civil War pardoned Confederates of treason. Again, who need pardons for treason? Traitors do. That the United States wanted to try heal the wounds caused by these slaver traitors, has no bearing on them being traitors. 

    You can justify the slavers trying to succeed from our country. You can thank those groomers The Daughters of the Confederacy for your feelings on that subject.

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  • @cccjwh said:

    Yeah, it's a great day for our country. No more traitors' names on our military bases. 

    If abraham lincoln, ulysses grant and william t sherman didnt object im not sure a leftist internet troll carries a lot of weight. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If abraham lincoln, ulysses grant and william t sherman didnt object im not sure a leftist internet troll carries a lot of weight. 

    Pretty sure none of them were alive when they named the military bases. Really sure about Lincoln.

    When the newly formed Confederacy opened fire on Fort Sumter on April 12, 1861, Grant wrote that, “There are but two parties now: traitors and patriots. And I want hereafter to be ranked with the latter.” - Ulysses S. Grant

  • It’s pretty pathetic when someone tries so hard to look smart….

    Tri-c is someone who has zero friends and is definitely a victim of abuse somewhere in his youth.

    good luck with your pain.

  • It’s pretty pathetic when someone tries so hard to look smart….

    Tri-c is someone who has zero friends and is definitely a victim of abuse somewhere in his youth.

    good luck with your pain.

    @hammertime said:

    It’s pretty pathetic when someone tries so hard to look smart….

    Tri-c is someone who has zero friends and is definitely a victim of abuse somewhere in his youth.

    good luck with your pain.

    Cult member cannot refute claim backed up by evidence. How did they respond?

    a. Meme

    b. Ad hominem attack

    c. Link to rightwing nutjob "source"

    d. #whataboutism

    e. combination of a, b, c, or d

  • @hammertime said:

    It’s pretty pathetic when someone tries so hard to look smart….

    Tri-c is someone who has zero friends and is definitely a victim of abuse somewhere in his youth.

    good luck with your pain.

    Cult member cannot refute claim backed up by evidence. How did they respond?

    a. Meme

    b. Ad hominem attack

    c. Link to rightwing nutjob "source"

    d. #whataboutism

    e. combination of a, b, c, or d

    @cccjwh said:

    Cult member cannot refute claim backed up by evidence. How did they respond?

    a. Meme

    b. Ad hominem attack

    c. Link to rightwing nutjob "source"

    d. #whataboutism

    e. combination of a, b, c, or d

    Groomer member cannot refute claim backed up by evidence. How did they respond?

    a.Cry

    b. Change sex

    c. Link to CRT, DRAG QUEEN  nutjob "source"

    d. Severe TDS

    e. combination of a, b, c, or d


    Your Hatred of your country. Sad.

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  • watched Brett Beir - talking to one of 50 cia officers who signed a letter - saying the hunter biden laptop had all the earmarks of a russian disinformation thing.

    they admit they had no idea if it's being true or not.

    But they issued the letter anyways.

    Just in time for biden to use it in the presidential debates.

    The smug arrogance and dishonesty is worrisome.

    the agent seems happy to lie his ass off. What a squid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/baier-presses-cia-intel-officer-standing-hunter-biden-russian-info-letter-wasnt-true

    Bret Baier presses ex-CIA intel officer standing by Hunter Biden 'Russian info' letter: 'It wasn't true'

  • watched Brett Beir - talking to one of 50 cia officers who signed a letter - saying the hunter biden laptop had all the earmarks of a russian disinformation thing.

    they admit they had no idea if it's being true or not.

    But they issued the letter anyways.

    Just in time for biden to use it in the presidential debates.

    The smug arrogance and dishonesty is worrisome.

    the agent seems happy to lie his ass off. What a squid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/baier-presses-cia-intel-officer-standing-hunter-biden-russian-info-letter-wasnt-true

    Bret Baier presses ex-CIA intel officer standing by Hunter Biden 'Russian info' letter: 'It wasn't true'

    @calfoxwc said:

    watched Brett Beir - talking to one of 50 cia officers who signed a letter - saying the hunter biden laptop had all the earmarks of a russian disinformation thing.

    they admit they had no idea if it's being true or not.

    But they issued the letter anyways.

    Just in time for biden to use it in the presidential debates.

    The smug arrogance and dishonesty is worrisome.

    the agent seems happy to lie his ass off. What a squid.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/baier-presses-cia-intel-officer-standing-hunter-biden-russian-info-letter-wasnt-true

    Bret Baier presses ex-CIA intel officer standing by Hunter Biden 'Russian info' letter: 'It wasn't true'

    Wrong thread baby cow. 

  • In case you guys missed it.

    Army Base Renamed for Native American War Hero, Replacing Confederate - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    WASHINGTON — It was a name synonymous with failure. More than 80 years ago, an Army base in Blackstone, Va., was named for George E. Pickett, the defeated Confederate general who led the disastrous “Pickett’s charge” at the Battle of Gettysburg.

    Now the base is the first of nine named for a Confederate to be redesignated by the end of this year. On Friday, Fort Pickett became Fort Barfoot, in honor of Col. Van Barfoot, a World War II hero and a Medal of Honor recipient.

    Col. James C. Shaver Jr., the base’s garrison commander, said it was an honor to be the first base renamed and that Fort Barfoot was now the first Army base in the continental United States to bear the name of a Native American soldier.

    A group of people unveiling a sign that reads “Fort Barfoot Joint Training Center” in front of a big American flag.

  • Its interesting to me that people who hate america, the values it was founded on and who only stand for degeneracy and deviants and want to fundamentally change the country to mirror a failed state like the u.s.s.r. are so concerned about traitors. 

  • Its interesting to me that people who hate america, the values it was founded on and who only stand for degeneracy and deviants and want to fundamentally change the country to mirror a failed state like the u.s.s.r. are so concerned about traitors. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Its interesting to me that people who hate america, the values it was founded on and who only stand for degeneracy and deviants and want to fundamentally change the country to mirror a failed state like the u.s.s.r. are so concerned about traitors. 

    Yeah you have to wonder why those America haters were able to name military bases after traitors in the first place. But luckily those mistakes are going away, and they are to be going to be named after actual American heroes. 

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Its interesting to me that people who hate america, the values it was founded on and who only stand for degeneracy and deviants and want to fundamentally change the country to mirror a failed state like the u.s.s.r. are so concerned about traitors. 

    Yeah you have to wonder why those America haters were able to name military bases after traitors in the first place. But luckily those mistakes are going away, and they are to be going to be named after actual American heroes. 

    @cccjwh said:

    Yeah you have to wonder why those America haters were able to name military bases after traitors in the first place. But luckily those mistakes are going away, and they are to be going to be named after actual American heroes. 

    I feel sure you couldnt name five figures from the civil war or even five battles without google so your opinion means roughly as much to me as a small pile of dog shit next to a stop sign. 

  • Always amazes me that conservatives, Real America loving conservatives, haven taken up the fight to preserve public honoring of figure from the confederacy. A group america went to war with. 

    In their typical desperate reactionary freak out against change they've decided to hang their hats on traitors. 

    "Own the libs" first. Mental gymnastics second. 

    Not surprising. But unfortunate

  • @cccjwh said:

    Yeah you have to wonder why those America haters were able to name military bases after traitors in the first place. But luckily those mistakes are going away, and they are to be going to be named after actual American heroes. 

    I feel sure you couldnt name five figures from the civil war or even five battles without google so your opinion means roughly as much to me as a small pile of dog shit next to a stop sign. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I feel sure you couldnt name five figures from the civil war or even five battles without google so your opinion means roughly as much to me as a small pile of dog shit next to a stop sign. 

    I feel like your feelings don't mean shit to me. All I can say is scoreboard. Your traitors' names are going away. You keep on wishing your side had won the Slavers Rebellion.

  • Always amazes me that conservatives, Real America loving conservatives, haven taken up the fight to preserve public honoring of figure from the confederacy. A group america went to war with. 

    In their typical desperate reactionary freak out against change they've decided to hang their hats on traitors. 

    "Own the libs" first. Mental gymnastics second. 

    Not surprising. But unfortunate

    @mld-woody said:

    Always amazes me that conservatives, Real America loving conservatives, haven taken up the fight to preserve public honoring of figure from the confederacy. A group america went to war with. 

    In their typical desperate reactionary freak out against change they've decided to hang their hats on traitors. 

    "Own the libs" first. Mental gymnastics second. 

    Not surprising. But unfortunate

    You don't even understand the definitions of the words you use. All was forgiven, they put America back together again -

    and you still look more stupid than you think. But if misplaced sarcasm is all you have, must suck to be you, your beakness.

       Surely you will grow up someday and be a happy bird.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Always amazes me that conservatives, Real America loving conservatives, haven taken up the fight to preserve public honoring of figure from the confederacy. A group america went to war with. 

    In their typical desperate reactionary freak out against change they've decided to hang their hats on traitors. 

    "Own the libs" first. Mental gymnastics second. 

    Not surprising. But unfortunate

    You don't even understand the definitions of the words you use. All was forgiven, they put America back together again -

    and you still look more stupid than you think. But if misplaced sarcasm is all you have, must suck to be you, your beakness.

       Surely you will grow up someday and be a happy bird.

    @calfoxwc said:

    You don't even understand the definitions of the words you use. All was forgiven, they put America back together again -

    and you still look more stupid than you think. But if misplaced sarcasm is all you have, must suck to be you, your beakness.

       Surely you will grow up someday and be a happy bird.

    "They put America back together"

    Who torn it apart again? Oh yeah, the traitors. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    Always amazes me that conservatives, Real America loving conservatives, haven taken up the fight to preserve public honoring of figure from the confederacy. A group america went to war with. 

    In their typical desperate reactionary freak out against change they've decided to hang their hats on traitors. 

    "Own the libs" first. Mental gymnastics second. 

    Not surprising. But unfortunate

    You don't even understand the definitions of the words you use. All was forgiven, they put America back together again -

    and you still look more stupid than you think. But if misplaced sarcasm is all you have, must suck to be you, your beakness.

       Surely you will grow up someday and be a happy bird.

    @calfoxwc said:

    You don't even understand the definitions of the words you use. All was forgiven, they put America back together again -

    and you still look more stupid than you think. But if misplaced sarcasm is all you have, must suck to be you, your beakness.

       Surely you will grow up someday and be a happy bird.

    Thanks for proving my point 

    You throw out common sense in favor of blind political allegiance. This is no exception

  • Aren't we all traitors anyways? What was the American Revolution?

    I'm pretty sure today, we can recognize the fact that the civil war was a war we wish didn't have to happen but it doesn't mean we ignorantly label people that fought in the war, no matter what side they were on, just because you want to tie it to some political movement of today. It was a different time for a young America.

    To keep in context of renaming of military bases It seems as though some of the names were picked simply because of location, the south naming their own camps after southerners. At this point in time, who cares? These are still Americans and we can absolutely honor them for their place in battle instead of their political views, within reason.

    These bases built their own reputation over time and that's whats connected to hearing their names, I doubt most people would even know who these bases were named for or cared until it served as some type of lame political movement. That's why people are protesting it, not for the actual names of who they represent, but because of the lame political reasons. Maybe the names do need changed, but given today's political environment, it might be best to show focus on greater needs such as oil, inflation and illegal immigration. Those hurt a lot worse than any name.

    If we're going to erase anything attached to the name Benning, does that mean democrats get erased since he was one?

  • JaxJ Jax

    Aren't we all traitors anyways? What was the American Revolution?

    I'm pretty sure today, we can recognize the fact that the civil war was a war we wish didn't have to happen but it doesn't mean we ignorantly label people that fought in the war, no matter what side they were on, just because you want to tie it to some political movement of today. It was a different time for a young America.

    To keep in context of renaming of military bases It seems as though some of the names were picked simply because of location, the south naming their own camps after southerners. At this point in time, who cares? These are still Americans and we can absolutely honor them for their place in battle instead of their political views, within reason.

    These bases built their own reputation over time and that's whats connected to hearing their names, I doubt most people would even know who these bases were named for or cared until it served as some type of lame political movement. That's why people are protesting it, not for the actual names of who they represent, but because of the lame political reasons. Maybe the names do need changed, but given today's political environment, it might be best to show focus on greater needs such as oil, inflation and illegal immigration. Those hurt a lot worse than any name.

    If we're going to erase anything attached to the name Benning, does that mean democrats get erased since he was one?

    @jax said:

    Aren't we all traitors anyways? What was the American Revolution?

    I'm pretty sure today, we can recognize the fact that the civil war was a war we wish didn't have to happen but it doesn't mean we ignorantly label people that fought in the war, no matter what side they were on, just because you want to tie it to some political movement of today. It was a different time for a young America.

    To keep in context of renaming of military bases It seems as though some of the names were picked simply because of location, the south naming their own camps after southerners. At this point in time, who cares? These are still Americans and we can absolutely honor them for their place in battle instead of their political views, within reason.

    These bases built their own reputation over time and that's whats connected to hearing their names, I doubt most people would even know who these bases were named for or cared until it served as some type of lame political movement. That's why people are protesting it, not for the actual names of who they represent, but because of the lame political reasons. Maybe the names do need changed, but given today's political environment, it might be best to show focus on greater needs such as oil, inflation and illegal immigration. Those hurt a lot worse than any name.

    If we're going to erase anything attached to the name Benning, does that mean democrats get erased since he was one?

    Too much common sense in your post.

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