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"The"   ?   2023 NFL Draft: Saturday Day 3  ?   Thread

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  • Browns signed UDFA safety Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Browns signed UDFA safety Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State

    @dutch-oven said:

    Browns signed UDFA safety Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State

    so ya think Cameron Mitchell could move to safety or is he just a nickle back ?

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  • Browns also have signed UDFAs:

    Utah LB Mohamoud Diabate

    Kansas DE Lonnie Phelps

    Ohio State S Tanner McCalister 

  • U Unsympathetic

    Trade w BAL was our 7th this yr for their 6th next yr.

    Current 2024 picks:

    1x in rounds 2 and 3

    2x in rounds 5 and 6 and 7

    @unsympathetic said:

    Trade w BAL was our 7th this yr for their 6th next yr.

    Current 2024 picks:

    1x in rounds 2 and 3

    2x in rounds 5 and 6 and 7

    Recipe for mediocrity 

  • sydS syd

    @dutch-oven said:

    Browns signed UDFA safety Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State

    so ya think Cameron Mitchell could move to safety or is he just a nickle back ?

    @syd said:

    so ya think Cameron Mitchell could move to safety or is he just a nickle back ?

    He's not the fastest corner out there, so could they consider moving him to safety? Perhaps. 

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  • Mitchell's NFL attribute, however, is short-area quickness which to this poster suggests slot corner.. "speed" isn't really what you want other than for go routes -- if raw speed was pertinent, Jacob Phillips would be good at pass defense..

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @syd said:

    so ya think Cameron Mitchell could move to safety or is he just a nickle back ?

    He's not the fastest corner out there, so could they consider moving him to safety? Perhaps. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    He's not the fastest corner out there, so could they consider moving him to safety? Perhaps. 

    i would consider it 

  • sydS syd

    @dutch-oven said:

    He's not the fastest corner out there, so could they consider moving him to safety? Perhaps. 

    i would consider it 

    @syd said:

    i would consider it 

    I would try him out at the position he played in college first, then go from there. 

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  • And tia fav Andre Carter II - Edge - Army was signed as UDFA by the Vikings.

    And the Bama CB Eli Ricks that Flugs and I thought might be worth a look late was sign UDFA by the Eagles.

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  • Browns also signed UDFA Caleb Biggers CB Boise St.

  • gumby73G gumby73

    The whole ________ state of Pennsylvania has had to do nothing & talent just falls into their laps  

    @gumby73 said:

    The whole ________ state of Pennsylvania has had to do nothing & talent just falls into their laps  

    Doesn't it though?  All of their 1st 4 picks landed right on their door step.  Dropped right to them.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg

    According to the 'pundits' Dawland Jones is great value and Isaiah McGuire a bit of a reach. What do we say about that? 

    @korsou-dawg said:

    According to the 'pundits' Dawland Jones is great value and Isaiah McGuire a bit of a reach. What do we say about that? 

    Are you sure it wasn't the other way around KD?  I like the Dawand Jones pick but nothing about him except the wing span says immediate impact.  That said, he's a RT.  McGuire looks like a better choice where we got him than how far we reached for Alex Wright last year.  McGuire looks like he can help us this year.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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  • I can't remember when Browns UDFA list was this targeted, but glad to see they're doing bottom-roster churn.  This is the totality of the list so far

    RB Hassan Hall, Georgia Tech - $125,000 guaranteed

    EDGE Lonnie Phelps, Kansas State
    EDGE Mohamoud Diabate, Utah - $250,000 guaranteed
    EDGE Jeremiah Martin, Washington
    S Ronnie Hickman, Ohio State
    S Charlie Thomas, Georgia Tech
    CB Tanner McAllister, Ohio State
    CB Amos Cormier, Georgia State
    CB Caleb Biggers, Boise State

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @syd said:

    i would consider it 

    I would try him out at the position he played in college first, then go from there. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I would try him out at the position he played in college first, then go from there. 

    I agree.  I think some think switching positions is as simple as telling a guy to "go play over there".

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • FlugelF Flugel

    @korsou-dawg said:

    According to the 'pundits' Dawland Jones is great value and Isaiah McGuire a bit of a reach. What do we say about that? 

    Are you sure it wasn't the other way around KD?  I like the Dawand Jones pick but nothing about him except the wing span says immediate impact.  That said, he's a RT.  McGuire looks like a better choice where we got him than how far we reached for Alex Wright last year.  McGuire looks like he can help us this year.

    @flugel said:

    Are you sure it wasn't the other way around KD?  I like the Dawand Jones pick but nothing about him except the wing span says immediate impact.  That said, he's a RT.  McGuire looks like a better choice where we got him than how far we reached for Alex Wright last year.  McGuire looks like he can help us this year.

    Quite sure. Example below from Walter football, but I have seen similar assessments.

    Jones' freakish size is considered sufficient to make an immediate impact, and with coaching could develop into a Pro Bowl caliber starter.

    McGuire is poopoo'd because of a limited pass rush arsenal. Is considered a run stopping, sub-package rotation guy.

    brownsb_logo.gif Cleveland Browns: Dawand Jones, OT, Ohio State - A+ Grade
    The Colts brought in plenty of offensive linemen for top-30 visits, as they wanted depth and a successor for Jack Conklin. Dawand Jones is a massive offensive lineman who will blast open huge running lanes for Nick Chubb. He could have gone in the second round, so I love this value.

    brownsb_logo.gif Cleveland Browns: Isaiah McGuire, DE, Missouri - C+ Grade
    The Browns needed to continue to bolster their defensive line, which was very weak last year outside of Myles Garrett. Isaiah McGuire is a powerful defensive lineman who could do well in Cleveland's rotation. I had him going later though.

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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @korsou-dawg said:

    According to the 'pundits' Dawland Jones is great value and Isaiah McGuire a bit of a reach. What do we say about that? 

    Are you sure it wasn't the other way around KD?  I like the Dawand Jones pick but nothing about him except the wing span says immediate impact.  That said, he's a RT.  McGuire looks like a better choice where we got him than how far we reached for Alex Wright last year.  McGuire looks like he can help us this year.

    @flugel said:

     McGuire looks like a better choice where we got him than how far we reached for Alex Wright last year.

    I'm still shaking my head about that reach. What did they see? Who saw it? And are they still scouting for the Browns?

    And this year we give up #7 so the Ravens can take a 1st team AA OL whose MD says will make a full recovery from an ACL tear at the Combine. If the Ravens get into the playoffs or better, their #6 next year will not be all that far from our #7 this year. Who cares if the guy they got won't play too much this year. Long term he's a great pick in the 7th round. Just another Browns head shaker.

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  • U Unsympathetic

    I can't remember when Browns UDFA list was this targeted, but glad to see they're doing bottom-roster churn.  This is the totality of the list so far

    RB Hassan Hall, Georgia Tech - $125,000 guaranteed

    EDGE Lonnie Phelps, Kansas State
    EDGE Mohamoud Diabate, Utah - $250,000 guaranteed
    EDGE Jeremiah Martin, Washington
    S Ronnie Hickman, Ohio State
    S Charlie Thomas, Georgia Tech
    CB Tanner McAllister, Ohio State
    CB Amos Cormier, Georgia State
    CB Caleb Biggers, Boise State

    @unsympathetic said:

    I can't remember when Browns UDFA list was this targeted, but glad to see they're doing bottom-roster churn.  This is the totality of the list so far

    RB Hassan Hall, Georgia Tech - $125,000 guaranteed

    EDGE Lonnie Phelps, Kansas State
    EDGE Mohamoud Diabate, Utah - $250,000 guaranteed
    EDGE Jeremiah Martin, Washington
    S Ronnie Hickman, Ohio State
    S Charlie Thomas, Georgia Tech
    CB Tanner McAllister, Ohio State
    CB Amos Cormier, Georgia State
    CB Caleb Biggers, Boise State

    Albany TE Thomas Greaney

  • Browns search for their 2024 6th rounder from the Ravens: ?

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  • OrionO Orion

    Picks 140 & 142 coming up for us.  Will we see BPA now?  Or more position targeting?

    @orion said:

    Picks 140 & 142 coming up for us.  Will we see BPA now?  Or more position targeting?

    Logging this in here now, because (like myself) & many others.... assumed as..wtf's to head scratch-er of a Berry pick  ?

     https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks/1/5/2023  Let's keep in mind.. drafts are combining the now's & the future needs.

    Who's really on the board that fitted our needs & postings at the time? Most thought Linebacker or maybe Safety? agree? A combination of 9 LB/S went off the board, now known as.... could have.... I went JT ? fishing after both picks were made 🙂..   closing thought..

    DTR might be Berry's only way of getting a QB onto the Practice Squad? (not being snatched off of, by another team) Mond & Dobbs needs to show their worth as a game day inactive or is that roster spot taken by another player?(more than likely)  Mond & Dobbs contracts are 2M or under (Dobbs 2M). Nothing to lose but to showcase both Dobbs & Mond to other teams this pre-season..   

    thoughts? cause, I'm still not over Round 5 selections 😉 

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @orion said:

    Picks 140 & 142 coming up for us.  Will we see BPA now?  Or more position targeting?

    Logging this in here now, because (like myself) & many others.... assumed as..wtf's to head scratch-er of a Berry pick  ?

     https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks/1/5/2023  Let's keep in mind.. drafts are combining the now's & the future needs.

    Who's really on the board that fitted our needs & postings at the time? Most thought Linebacker or maybe Safety? agree? A combination of 9 LB/S went off the board, now known as.... could have.... I went JT ? fishing after both picks were made 🙂..   closing thought..

    DTR might be Berry's only way of getting a QB onto the Practice Squad? (not being snatched off of, by another team) Mond & Dobbs needs to show their worth as a game day inactive or is that roster spot taken by another player?(more than likely)  Mond & Dobbs contracts are 2M or under (Dobbs 2M). Nothing to lose but to showcase both Dobbs & Mond to other teams this pre-season..   

    thoughts? cause, I'm still not over Round 5 selections 😉 

    @gumby73 said:

    Logging this in here now, because (like myself) & many others.... assumed as..wtf's to head scratch-er of a Berry pick  ?

     https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks/1/5/2023  Let's keep in mind.. drafts are combining the now's & the future needs.

    Who's really on the board that fitted our needs & postings at the time? Most thought Linebacker or maybe Safety? agree? A combination of 9 LB/S went off the board, now known as.... could have.... I went JT ? fishing after both picks were made 🙂..   closing thought..

    DTR might be Berry's only way of getting a QB onto the Practice Squad? (not being snatched off of, by another team) Mond & Dobbs needs to show their worth as a game day inactive or is that roster spot taken by another player?(more than likely)  Mond & Dobbs contracts are 2M or under (Dobbs 2M). Nothing to lose but to showcase both Dobbs & Mond to other teams this pre-season..   

    thoughts? cause, I'm still not over it 😉 

    We satisfied most needs.  I feel good about our Our Oline.  We have a very competitive WR room 1-6 with varied skill sets.  We are all satisfied now with our Front 4 or at least should feel a lot better.  Our Top 3 picks offer instant contribution opportunities - DT and OT are going to be jumbo package ? installs on Day 1.  Might even pop into the rotation significantly.   Tillman will have opportunities as well…we didn’t have a first or second round pick so saying this is significant.

    We could have added a back but Jerome Ford could be the guy now for an extended role.  And we didn’t trade Chubb.

    DTR fits our QB room well.  I’m not sure how we showcase Dobbs and Mond.  The league knows what they are and moving either fetches nothing. 

    I was vocal about our lousy LB play last year…I understand they were getting blown up at times by Centers and Guards but they left a lot to be desired when they had plays in front of them.  We are expecting Anthony Walker to play a full season - when the last two he’s played 16 of 34 games.  He’s steady not spectacular by any stretch but from all reports a leader on  the team.  The drop or fall off from Walker to next is significant. Id argue aside from Watson and Garrett.  Walker is a guy next in line that needs to play 17 games next year. 

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