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Mangini scaring away FAs?

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  • Vegasdogg V
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    V Vegasdogg wrote on last edited by
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    We've signed our share of FA's lately.

    We have many people saying we sign too many FA's and that we need to build through the draft. Now we're convinced we'll need to sign FA's but they won't come. Which is it?

    Wow. This fanbase needs some serious fooking counseling. WTF?

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
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    • TheJokersWILD ?
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      ? TheJokersWILD wrote on last edited by
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      Where is Tom Tupa when you need him?

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      • Sez.EJ S
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        S Sez.EJ wrote on last edited by
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        Look at it this way..who wants to play for Al Davis after what he did for Marcus Allen. There are other coaches, Gm's ect..some players don't want to play for... There are plenty of guys who would gladly come to cleveland. Also if we actually start winning... that counts for a lot.. First we need to get that part straightened out.

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          @we-need-tom-tupa said:

          http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...ay-from-browns/

          What's funny is Florio just hates the browns and tries to put out negative things about them. 9/10 of the comments below this and the other browns hate articles say the exact same thing.

          He STILL brings up the bus ride, like anyone gives a shit about that.

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          ITHIKAI ITHIKA wrote on last edited by
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          AdaM said:

          What's funny is Florio just hates the browns and tries to put out negative things about them. 9/10 of the comments below this and the other browns hate articles say the exact same thing.

          He STILL brings up the bus ride, like anyone gives a shit about that.

          Exactly, and most don't know that Mike Florio is a bandwagon Stoolers fan so how else is he going to act towards the Browns..

          Slow Ur Role Jabroni!
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          • We need Tom Tupa W
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            W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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            Also, we went over this a bit in the offseason and the point was raised that he wouldve had a hard time bringing in his old players if he was such a miserable guy to play for.

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            • SCRAM JET S
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              S SCRAM JET wrote on last edited by
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              There were similar rumbles in the media during Mangini's tenure with the Jets. It didn't, however, seem to affect the Jets' ability to acquire high profile players (i.e. Faneca, Jenkins, Pace) when they went on a $100 million+ spending spree for the 2008 season.

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                There were similar rumbles in the media during Mangini's tenure with the Jets. It didn't, however, seem to affect the Jets' ability to acquire high profile players (i.e. Faneca, Jenkins, Pace) when they went on a $100 million+ spending spree for the 2008 season.

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                V Vegasdogg wrote on last edited by
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                @scram-jet said:

                There were similar rumbles in the media during Mangini's tenure with the Jets. It didn't, however, seem to affect the Jets' ability to acquire high profile players (i.e. Faneca, Jenkins, Pace) when they went on a $100 million+ spending spree for the 2008 season.

                LOL. There is typically only ONE thing that scares away FA's - less money.

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                • S SCRAM JET

                  There were similar rumbles in the media during Mangini's tenure with the Jets. It didn't, however, seem to affect the Jets' ability to acquire high profile players (i.e. Faneca, Jenkins, Pace) when they went on a $100 million+ spending spree for the 2008 season.

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                  ? Aloysius wrote on last edited by
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                  @scram-jet said:

                  There were similar rumbles in the media during Mangini's tenure with the Jets. It didn't, however, seem to affect the Jets' ability to acquire high profile players (i.e. Faneca, Jenkins, Pace) when they went on a $100 million+ spending spree for the 2008 season.

                  I was kind of surprised that Damien Woody bashed Mangini. He was part of that $100M+ spending spree (he got a 5 year, $25.5 deal).

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                    @scram-jet said:

                    There were similar rumbles in the media during Mangini's tenure with the Jets. It didn't, however, seem to affect the Jets' ability to acquire high profile players (i.e. Faneca, Jenkins, Pace) when they went on a $100 million+ spending spree for the 2008 season.

                    I was kind of surprised that Damien Woody bashed Mangini. He was part of that $100M+ spending spree (he got a 5 year, $25.5 deal).

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                    S SCRAM JET wrote on last edited by
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                    Aloysius said:

                    I was kind of surprised that Damien Woody bashed Mangini. He was part of that $100M+ spending spree (he got a 5 year, $25.5 deal).

                    Yeah, that was a bit jarring in light of the fact that he was very sympathetic to Mangini when he got fired as evidenced by this quote:

                    Mangini also had the respect of his players.

                    "I still feel bad," Jets tackle Damien Woody said. "I just feel like there's no reason this team shouldn't be in the postseason right now.

                    "He shouldn't have gotten fired. As players, we let him down. We didn't play our best ball down the stretch. We had everything in our control, and we let it slip away from us."

                    http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/tag/_/name/damien-woody

                    I probably sound like a Mangini apologist (and it's definately not a good time to be one after the Jekyll & Hyde showing by the Browns) but many players recently changing their tunes seem like the case of "blame everything on the previous guy". I see plenty of that in my own team's message boards.

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                      E Earl34 wrote on last edited by
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                      Actually Florio....Coles and Baker DID have their deals reworked. Quietly. Get your facts straight. As a matter of fact, Coles was very outspoken when they fired Mangini as was Kris Jenkins who came to NY only because of Mangini.

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                        T Tobalaz wrote on last edited by
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                        We're not overpaying for FAs because the head coach is a jerk, we're overpaying because we're not a winning team and we have staph running rampant in the training room.

                        Look at the Pats, Bill is the biggest douche in the NFL and people line up to play in NE.

                        You win and everyone wants to be a part of you.

                        3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
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                        • Gips GipsG
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                          GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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                          Mangini will need to build from scratch until he proves that he runs a winning operation then the loser bums will line up10 thick agents approval or not...the fewer puke bags we pick up at inflated prices the better as long as we get enough to keep the roster full..since these below to mediocre rejects rarely have much more talent then the other ones it dont really matter much which ones are picked they serve a temporary role...

                          We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                            T thomasw wrote on last edited by
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                            Wow, an employer treating potential employees like garbage! This is not news.

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                              Wow, an employer treating potential employees like garbage! This is not news.

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                              J JoeSixPat wrote on last edited by
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                              @thomasw said:

                              This is not news.

                              Exactly - everyone already knows no one wants to play for the Browns. In many cases that has nothing to do with Mangini.

                              Everything's going exactly to plan for Mangini. He learned from Belichick that the path to coaching success involves being fired as the Head Coach of the Browns. Mangini is WAY ahead of schedule.

                              Randy Lerner must be so pleased.

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                                The weather,the talent level,the fans,the recent history of suckitude, the No fun style of the program and the coach! Yes I believe the story, it hasn't changed and won't change until we are winning division titles again. Period! Same thing said about Savages regime....and he did over pay. Let's face it, C-town ain't a great place to be in December. The economy aint that great either....BUT

                                ...We're not Detroit!

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                                S Solon16 wrote on last edited by
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                                @solon16 said:

                                The weather,the talent level,the fans,the recent history of suckitude, the No fun style of the program and the coach! Yes I believe the story, it hasn't changed and won't change until we are winning division titles again. Period! Same thing said about Savages regime....and he did over pay. Let's face it, C-town ain't a great place to be in December. The economy aint that great either....BUT

                                ...We're not Detroit!

                                I'm sorry I roll on the ground laughing at those youtube vids...fkn hysterical IMO...stiill chucklin

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                                  E Eastlakeian wrote on last edited by
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                                  We have to overpay because we stunk for 10 years.

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                                    D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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                                    Whaaa, Whaaa If these guys think a 10 hour custom bus ride is hardship they had better be saving their money.

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