2023 Browns NFL Draft Prospects
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Initial impressions after digging like Indiana Jones for good film.
- Bryce Young is going to struggle in Carolina. His height is a real problem, whether pundits want to admit that or not. The bottom 3 Oline makes that issue even more magnified. HIs rookie year might end up getting him smoked like it did Joey Burrow, although for two reasons as opposed to just one in Cincy.
- I have hopes for Ika. Despite being 37lbs heavier, he ran a 10 yard split only 1/10th of a second slower than Tommy Togiai. He's also over an inch taller and 1.5 inches greater in arm length. Which, for reasons I can't seem to grasp why writers from DPD or DPN can't see, are the primary reasons why TT did good against a team like the Ravens, but struggled against teams like Atlanta. Pretty sad given that these are advertisement based and profit driven publications. Anywho....
- Ceddy's route selection and body structure just looks like Michael Thomas. And I posted in the draft thread, he's within half an inch on height, arm length, hand size and they're 2lbs difference in weight. I get this pick entirely, and he doesn't have to start right away. His footwork isn't a polished as MT's was, but if he's willing to put in the work he can absolutely get there.
- Dawand has to keep his weight in check and it's really that simple. But bringing on a body of that size supports my belief of this team moving away from using the outside zone as the running structure to setup our passing offense, and instead shifting more to the more natural vertical zone that gun based offenses are. This is how teams that sprinkle in those RPO designs tend to run their games as well beyond simple sight adjusts. You're not going to bring in a 375lb RT and have him run zone stretch. That's actually my biggest take away from this selection. It's good to see Buckeyes stay home, and DJ is in good hands with coach Callahan. He has to learn how to be a pro now and to take the utmost care of his body shape.
- Isiah Mcguire. I've watched all of Mizzou vs Georgia. While the JawJaw OT situation isn't good, I like this pick and think more people need to come around on him. He's got great wingspan, leg drive, pad level and fundamentals. I swear the Mizzou Dline has been turning out consistent players for years, even if they're unspectacular or not the most twitchy athletes. Which is IM in a nutshell. Good first step, not elite. Not incredibly athletic getting around the edge, but his hand usage and feet will make him a decent pro who won't be a liability. He actually shows traits and regular reps that I wanted to see from Alex Wrights tape while at UAB. And this front office has clearly understood, in a very short amount of time, that they reached rather far for Wright. McGuire has a better athletic profile, better tape, has received better coaching and was a more productive collegiate player against better competition than Wright was. Bonus, Mcguire was taken just outside the top 125 players. That's good draft value.
He isn't dynamic, and I'm fine with that. Putting an above average edge across from Myles while ignoring the rest of the Dline has produced nil results. Having an elite edge rusher paired with a quality defensive line simple produces a better result from top to bottom, left to right. I now expect this dline to generate pressure across the entirety of the front as opposed to just the edge.
- DTR is DTR. Started a ton of games in college, which is what you want to see in a QB (so to speak) has some physical tools but played under Chip Kelly. Not exactly a developer of pro QB talent. But he doesn't look like Pat White, Jeremiah Masoli or Darron Thomas. Basically, there's a chance he could stick around in the NFL as a backup for some time.
- Wypler is an underacheiver with the physical tools as an athlete, but lacks more long-term snaps at center. He pretty much took over for the Bucks just under 2 years ago. He struggled the first half of that season with bad snaps alone. Not the first time tOSU has done that - did it with Doug Datish back in the day as well when he kicked inside to Center after playing LT for a few seasons. Moldable clay going to the best OL coach in the NFL. If this pick ends up being anything at all, then that's just a cherry on top. Signals that Nick Harris is gone though. Between Pocic, Deaton and now Wypler, our average starting C height is 6'3 and change. For anyone keeping track, that's pretty god damn tall for the position. So it's clear these staff likes centers with arm length.
I have a lot of film to go over from everyone after Ika. So I'll be back around this time next week to update this thread.
Dawand has to keep his weight in check and it's really that simple.
I hope Dawand accepts that he needs to put in the work if he wants to get where he thinks he already is. Per Menace2Sports [that's the daily podcast of the guy who was Urban's WR coach & still has connections], the last year inside the Woody, to describe Dawand as entitled is an understatement.
Here's betting they put a fine in his contract for every day he's overweight..
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Dawand has to keep his weight in check and it's really that simple.
I hope Dawand accepts that he needs to put in the work if he wants to get where he thinks he already is. Per Menace2Sports [that's the daily podcast of the guy who was Urban's WR coach & still has connections], the last year inside the Woody, to describe Dawand as entitled is an understatement.
Here's betting they put a fine in his contract for every day he's overweight..
I hope Dawand accepts that he needs to put in the work if he wants to get where he thinks he already is. Per Menace2Sports [that's the daily podcast of the guy who was Urban's WR coach & still has connections], the last year inside the Woody, to describe Dawand as entitled is an understatement.
Here's betting they put a fine in his contract for every day he's overweight..
Didn't have time to rebuttal the last couple days, here's my thought(s)
I take what Zach Smith says lightly. The things Dawand had to work on most from 2021 into the 2022 off-season, weight, hand strike timing and placement, he made improvements on from the previous year. Now, he didn't face someone as good as Hutchinson.
But he did face Van Ness (limited snaps), Herbig & Foskey. Sadly no Nolan Smith, that would have really helped with an assessment. But all 3 were drafted, so the issues he had to previously overcome now have a recent history of being addressed.
I'm still cautiously optimistic though.
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Re: Bryce Young
This is him standing next to Brian Burns, who checks in at 6'4 and 3/4. Bryce will be playing behind an Oline that averages 6'4. I'm no height supremacist... But gawd damn.
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PSU's Sean Clifford had the same career "length" as Bennett -- arrive at Penn State in 2017, graduate in 2022.
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This is as good a place to put this. I went back to watch Isiah Mcguire against Georgia again, except this time I decided to pay close attention to the Steelers 1st round draft pick - LT Broderick Jones.
Let's begin.
This attempt at a vertical kick-step from his set reminded me of another short-lived LT the Browns brought in for a 2nd shot at an NFL career - Greg Robinson from Auburn. Originally drafted by the Rams high in the 1st round. And much like Robinson, Jones gets out of his stance WAY too high and almost 'bounces'. There is no security, timing or anchor in his footwork. As a result, when contact gets to him quickly, he struggles to anchor, redirect, basically anything beyond just win by being bigger, stronger and a decent athlete. Or in some cases... hold.
I had this very conversation with our departed Tour, you can reference that here....
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After the initial bounce step, which is what I'm going to call it, BDJ is still high on the front of his feet and leaning too strongly into contact. Beyond coaching, my first question is arm length? I ask that because I've spoken about McGuire's length on the edge. Quick google search from combine measurements show that isn't the case - he's just late and bad to initial strike.
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Big no-no. Lowering your head into contact on the edge gets you fucked more often than not. This looks and plays like somebody throwing their weight and strength into a blocking sled more than an edge rusher. The biggest issue here, apart from BDJ's eyes being down and away from his target, is that his footwork and weight distribution sets him up for total failure.
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Because his weight is so far forward away from his base, and he's on the front of his feet, McGuire using his arms to extend himself away from BDJ's intimal contact means he's lost any chance at locking and turning him out of the B gap, but Mcguire's control severely limits any jump cut for the RB to win the edge without Isiah disengaging and possibly getting a TFL.
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RB tries to bounce this to the frontside C gap (edge), but the playside overhang has driven down to the LOS and Mcguire has kept his outside shoulder free enough to protect the DB from being beaten to his inside shoulder.
This is, from the standpoint of watching good Oline play.... REALLY fucking bad.
There's more from this game, a lot more. And it was there on just about every snap, 1st - 4th qtr.
Later on we got a double pull against a closed end to the boundary.
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Washington (TE) is going to throw an X (downblock) on Mcguire, the closed end. To clarify for anyone who isn't versed in the language, 'closed' end means your DE won't be on the edge outside of either the OT or the TE. He'll be either in a gap or 'heads up' between a 4-4i technique.
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Like the caption says, no edge to kick out so you're going to turn your eyes back inside to cutoff any pursuit. You're running to the boundary, so you want to create the alley for the runner to work in narrow space and dance. Can't run laterally with the lack of space. BDJ eyes the SAM (front side) backer and should engage once he clears the X block.
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Only he doesn't do that. His footwork and discpline stay sloppy, so now the frontside backer takes the free gift by going under BDJ's inside shoulder, and effectively 'under' the pull to get a big TFL.
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It looks a ton worse from the sky cam.
The bounce step makes getting negative from the line SUPER easy. Which, hey, that's neat I suppose. The eyes are a big tell here. You see BDJ get to clear Washington on the downblock, he's looking for work on the edge coming outside to in... which is the correct thing to do.
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As he clears, it's pretty obvious who is target is. Again, running to the boundary, cut off ANY frontside support. LB's have to hit their landmarks, so create a traffic jam when they under pursue. Let your RB win the edge quickly.
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- Completely losses his footwork. By that I mean he's once again playing and finishing high, not pacing his steps from his block clear to his target. Damn lucky he didn't draw a holding call here either.
One more for the road, just a bit later in the game. Line cam from a straight drop in pass pro on a 3rd and 13 against Mcguire.
Like I said above, I hate this kids first step into a non-existent vertical kick step.
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Mcguire is already even, BDJ hasn't landed a strike let alone a quality one. His feet are a mess and he's asking to be beaten back inside by any edge who is lined up from a 7-9tech.
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His first punch is... anything but. The response to speed is to wrap at the shoulders. His response to strength is to shock without any anchor and hope the target doesn't use technique to re-win the rep.
Ignore the part in the caption about the "below average arm length". It isn't, which makes his all the more unforgiveable from a coaching standpoint. It is below average arm extension though, which is much more accurate and fitting.
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Clear hold high, around the neck, while Mcquire is extended and in a position to affect the throw or better.
Outside of some national games I skimmed, and then the game vs the Bucks on NYE where I was WAY too hammered to watch him at a fast pace, I was curious how Pittsburgh felt they had addressed and possibly fixed their protection issues via draft. Short answer - they didn't. At least, not at LT they didn't. @vagitron, you might be most interested in this bit, per our last conversation.
In fact, Broderick is one of the more questionable picks I've seen from that franchise in some time. Right up there with another Georgia alum - Jarvis Jones. Strange, considering I'll give praise to where it's earned regardless of team. And the Steelers have a history of quality picks the last 20 years.
If this was a pick CLE made, even with a player going in the hands of Coach Callahan, I'd be pissed. Everything I've watched so far is a testament to combine numbers, which weren't all that great, and the hype from playing on those Georgia squads. A team with some serious flaws on their Oline and secondary, who was VERY fortunate to win a natty let alone repeat.
I rarely bury anyone before they're dead, but this kid needs time and a fuck ton of coaching. But I feel good about this pick, from the perspective of a Browns fan wondering if their rival truly improved. Jones will struggle with Myles quickness, he'll struggle (like he did above) with Mcguire's wingspan, and he'll struggle with Smith's bull rush. I do recognize that Coach Meyer is a pretty decent professional (Oline coach for PIT), but he has his hands full with this task. A rookie off-season, while you're attempting to learn the playbook, catch up to NFL speed, digest language and having to rebuild your technique from the ground up is not a recipe for early success. To me, what I'm finding makes the Darnell Washington pick make even more sense - you brought in a teammate who has spent a lot of reps giving this man chips and pass pro help. If BDJ is tasked to start game 1, he's going to need every bit of that. Because it's a net win at this particular position matchup for Cleveland during the 1st meeting at minimum.
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@tiamat63 so, in short, you are saying McGuire is a great pick, and Browns win the Superbowl.
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@tiamat63 so, in short, you are saying McGuire is a great pick, and Browns win the Superbowl.
@tiamat63 so, in short, you are saying McGuire is a great pick, and Browns win the Superbowl.
McGuire is a solid pick, not a great one. And given where we got him at, to quote Robert Randolph - "ain't nothing wrong with that".
I was just taken back by the quality (lack of at times) from Oline play in the SEC this year. Even Darnell Wright (OT, Tennessee) has been a bit 'meh', like most tackles coming from any flavor of Air Raid.
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This is as good a place to put this. I went back to watch Isiah Mcguire against Georgia again, except this time I decided to pay close attention to the Steelers 1st round draft pick - LT Broderick Jones.
Let's begin.
This attempt at a vertical kick-step from his set reminded me of another short-lived LT the Browns brought in for a 2nd shot at an NFL career - Greg Robinson from Auburn. Originally drafted by the Rams high in the 1st round. And much like Robinson, Jones gets out of his stance WAY too high and almost 'bounces'. There is no security, timing or anchor in his footwork. As a result, when contact gets to him quickly, he struggles to anchor, redirect, basically anything beyond just win by being bigger, stronger and a decent athlete. Or in some cases... hold.
I had this very conversation with our departed Tour, you can reference that here....
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After the initial bounce step, which is what I'm going to call it, BDJ is still high on the front of his feet and leaning too strongly into contact. Beyond coaching, my first question is arm length? I ask that because I've spoken about McGuire's length on the edge. Quick google search from combine measurements show that isn't the case - he's just late and bad to initial strike.
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Big no-no. Lowering your head into contact on the edge gets you fucked more often than not. This looks and plays like somebody throwing their weight and strength into a blocking sled more than an edge rusher. The biggest issue here, apart from BDJ's eyes being down and away from his target, is that his footwork and weight distribution sets him up for total failure.
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Because his weight is so far forward away from his base, and he's on the front of his feet, McGuire using his arms to extend himself away from BDJ's intimal contact means he's lost any chance at locking and turning him out of the B gap, but Mcguire's control severely limits any jump cut for the RB to win the edge without Isiah disengaging and possibly getting a TFL.
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RB tries to bounce this to the frontside C gap (edge), but the playside overhang has driven down to the LOS and Mcguire has kept his outside shoulder free enough to protect the DB from being beaten to his inside shoulder.
This is, from the standpoint of watching good Oline play.... REALLY fucking bad.
There's more from this game, a lot more. And it was there on just about every snap, 1st - 4th qtr.
Later on we got a double pull against a closed end to the boundary.
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Washington (TE) is going to throw an X (downblock) on Mcguire, the closed end. To clarify for anyone who isn't versed in the language, 'closed' end means your DE won't be on the edge outside of either the OT or the TE. He'll be either in a gap or 'heads up' between a 4-4i technique.
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Like the caption says, no edge to kick out so you're going to turn your eyes back inside to cutoff any pursuit. You're running to the boundary, so you want to create the alley for the runner to work in narrow space and dance. Can't run laterally with the lack of space. BDJ eyes the SAM (front side) backer and should engage once he clears the X block.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Only he doesn't do that. His footwork and discpline stay sloppy, so now the frontside backer takes the free gift by going under BDJ's inside shoulder, and effectively 'under' the pull to get a big TFL.
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It looks a ton worse from the sky cam.
The bounce step makes getting negative from the line SUPER easy. Which, hey, that's neat I suppose. The eyes are a big tell here. You see BDJ get to clear Washington on the downblock, he's looking for work on the edge coming outside to in... which is the correct thing to do.
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As he clears, it's pretty obvious who is target is. Again, running to the boundary, cut off ANY frontside support. LB's have to hit their landmarks, so create a traffic jam when they under pursue. Let your RB win the edge quickly.
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- Completely losses his footwork. By that I mean he's once again playing and finishing high, not pacing his steps from his block clear to his target. Damn lucky he didn't draw a holding call here either.
One more for the road, just a bit later in the game. Line cam from a straight drop in pass pro on a 3rd and 13 against Mcguire.
Like I said above, I hate this kids first step into a non-existent vertical kick step.
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Mcguire is already even, BDJ hasn't landed a strike let alone a quality one. His feet are a mess and he's asking to be beaten back inside by any edge who is lined up from a 7-9tech.
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His first punch is... anything but. The response to speed is to wrap at the shoulders. His response to strength is to shock without any anchor and hope the target doesn't use technique to re-win the rep.
Ignore the part in the caption about the "below average arm length". It isn't, which makes his all the more unforgiveable from a coaching standpoint. It is below average arm extension though, which is much more accurate and fitting.
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Clear hold high, around the neck, while Mcquire is extended and in a position to affect the throw or better.
Outside of some national games I skimmed, and then the game vs the Bucks on NYE where I was WAY too hammered to watch him at a fast pace, I was curious how Pittsburgh felt they had addressed and possibly fixed their protection issues via draft. Short answer - they didn't. At least, not at LT they didn't. @vagitron, you might be most interested in this bit, per our last conversation.
In fact, Broderick is one of the more questionable picks I've seen from that franchise in some time. Right up there with another Georgia alum - Jarvis Jones. Strange, considering I'll give praise to where it's earned regardless of team. And the Steelers have a history of quality picks the last 20 years.
If this was a pick CLE made, even with a player going in the hands of Coach Callahan, I'd be pissed. Everything I've watched so far is a testament to combine numbers, which weren't all that great, and the hype from playing on those Georgia squads. A team with some serious flaws on their Oline and secondary, who was VERY fortunate to win a natty let alone repeat.
I rarely bury anyone before they're dead, but this kid needs time and a fuck ton of coaching. But I feel good about this pick, from the perspective of a Browns fan wondering if their rival truly improved. Jones will struggle with Myles quickness, he'll struggle (like he did above) with Mcguire's wingspan, and he'll struggle with Smith's bull rush. I do recognize that Coach Meyer is a pretty decent professional (Oline coach for PIT), but he has his hands full with this task. A rookie off-season, while you're attempting to learn the playbook, catch up to NFL speed, digest language and having to rebuild your technique from the ground up is not a recipe for early success. To me, what I'm finding makes the Darnell Washington pick make even more sense - you brought in a teammate who has spent a lot of reps giving this man chips and pass pro help. If BDJ is tasked to start game 1, he's going to need every bit of that. Because it's a net win at this particular position matchup for Cleveland during the 1st meeting at minimum.
This is as good a place to put this. I went back to watch Isiah Mcguire against Georgia again, except this time I decided to pay close attention to the Steelers 1st round draft pick - LT Broderick Jones.
Let's begin.
This attempt at a vertical kick-step from his set reminded me of another short-lived LT the Browns brought in for a 2nd shot at an NFL career - Greg Robinson from Auburn. Originally drafted by the Rams high in the 1st round. And much like Robinson, Jones gets out of his stance WAY too high and almost 'bounces'. There is no security, timing or anchor in his footwork. As a result, when contact gets to him quickly, he struggles to anchor, redirect, basically anything beyond just win by being bigger, stronger and a decent athlete. Or in some cases... hold.
I had this very conversation with our departed Tour, you can reference that here....
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After the initial bounce step, which is what I'm going to call it, BDJ is still high on the front of his feet and leaning too strongly into contact. Beyond coaching, my first question is arm length? I ask that because I've spoken about McGuire's length on the edge. Quick google search from combine measurements show that isn't the case - he's just late and bad to initial strike.
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Big no-no. Lowering your head into contact on the edge gets you fucked more often than not. This looks and plays like somebody throwing their weight and strength into a blocking sled more than an edge rusher. The biggest issue here, apart from BDJ's eyes being down and away from his target, is that his footwork and weight distribution sets him up for total failure.
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Because his weight is so far forward away from his base, and he's on the front of his feet, McGuire using his arms to extend himself away from BDJ's intimal contact means he's lost any chance at locking and turning him out of the B gap, but Mcguire's control severely limits any jump cut for the RB to win the edge without Isiah disengaging and possibly getting a TFL.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
RB tries to bounce this to the frontside C gap (edge), but the playside overhang has driven down to the LOS and Mcguire has kept his outside shoulder free enough to protect the DB from being beaten to his inside shoulder.
This is, from the standpoint of watching good Oline play.... REALLY fucking bad.
There's more from this game, a lot more. And it was there on just about every snap, 1st - 4th qtr.
Later on we got a double pull against a closed end to the boundary.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Washington (TE) is going to throw an X (downblock) on Mcguire, the closed end. To clarify for anyone who isn't versed in the language, 'closed' end means your DE won't be on the edge outside of either the OT or the TE. He'll be either in a gap or 'heads up' between a 4-4i technique.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Like the caption says, no edge to kick out so you're going to turn your eyes back inside to cutoff any pursuit. You're running to the boundary, so you want to create the alley for the runner to work in narrow space and dance. Can't run laterally with the lack of space. BDJ eyes the SAM (front side) backer and should engage once he clears the X block.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Only he doesn't do that. His footwork and discpline stay sloppy, so now the frontside backer takes the free gift by going under BDJ's inside shoulder, and effectively 'under' the pull to get a big TFL.
-----------------------------------------------------------
It looks a ton worse from the sky cam.
The bounce step makes getting negative from the line SUPER easy. Which, hey, that's neat I suppose. The eyes are a big tell here. You see BDJ get to clear Washington on the downblock, he's looking for work on the edge coming outside to in... which is the correct thing to do.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
As he clears, it's pretty obvious who is target is. Again, running to the boundary, cut off ANY frontside support. LB's have to hit their landmarks, so create a traffic jam when they under pursue. Let your RB win the edge quickly.
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- Completely losses his footwork. By that I mean he's once again playing and finishing high, not pacing his steps from his block clear to his target. Damn lucky he didn't draw a holding call here either.
One more for the road, just a bit later in the game. Line cam from a straight drop in pass pro on a 3rd and 13 against Mcguire.
Like I said above, I hate this kids first step into a non-existent vertical kick step.
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Mcguire is already even, BDJ hasn't landed a strike let alone a quality one. His feet are a mess and he's asking to be beaten back inside by any edge who is lined up from a 7-9tech.
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His first punch is... anything but. The response to speed is to wrap at the shoulders. His response to strength is to shock without any anchor and hope the target doesn't use technique to re-win the rep.
Ignore the part in the caption about the "below average arm length". It isn't, which makes his all the more unforgiveable from a coaching standpoint. It is below average arm extension though, which is much more accurate and fitting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clear hold high, around the neck, while Mcquire is extended and in a position to affect the throw or better.
Outside of some national games I skimmed, and then the game vs the Bucks on NYE where I was WAY too hammered to watch him at a fast pace, I was curious how Pittsburgh felt they had addressed and possibly fixed their protection issues via draft. Short answer - they didn't. At least, not at LT they didn't. @vagitron, you might be most interested in this bit, per our last conversation.
In fact, Broderick is one of the more questionable picks I've seen from that franchise in some time. Right up there with another Georgia alum - Jarvis Jones. Strange, considering I'll give praise to where it's earned regardless of team. And the Steelers have a history of quality picks the last 20 years.
If this was a pick CLE made, even with a player going in the hands of Coach Callahan, I'd be pissed. Everything I've watched so far is a testament to combine numbers, which weren't all that great, and the hype from playing on those Georgia squads. A team with some serious flaws on their Oline and secondary, who was VERY fortunate to win a natty let alone repeat.
I rarely bury anyone before they're dead, but this kid needs time and a fuck ton of coaching. But I feel good about this pick, from the perspective of a Browns fan wondering if their rival truly improved. Jones will struggle with Myles quickness, he'll struggle (like he did above) with Mcguire's wingspan, and he'll struggle with Smith's bull rush. I do recognize that Coach Meyer is a pretty decent professional (Oline coach for PIT), but he has his hands full with this task. A rookie off-season, while you're attempting to learn the playbook, catch up to NFL speed, digest language and having to rebuild your technique from the ground up is not a recipe for early success. To me, what I'm finding makes the Darnell Washington pick make even more sense - you brought in a teammate who has spent a lot of reps giving this man chips and pass pro help. If BDJ is tasked to start game 1, he's going to need every bit of that. Because it's a net win at this particular position matchup for Cleveland during the 1st meeting at minimum.
Well done Coach Tia. That must have taken a lot of time and patience to put that together for us. GREAT job by you finding that consistent vulnerability getting out of stance late and sluggish to the extent McGuire consistently wins position and leverage on him. Great touch crediting Tour as well. We have a Left Tackle very similar that's probably adding a lot of gray hair to Bill Callahan's dome. Thanks for the goodies!!!!!
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@tiamat63 so, in short, you are saying McGuire is a great pick, and Browns win the Superbowl.
McGuire is a solid pick, not a great one. And given where we got him at, to quote Robert Randolph - "ain't nothing wrong with that".
I was just taken back by the quality (lack of at times) from Oline play in the SEC this year. Even Darnell Wright (OT, Tennessee) has been a bit 'meh', like most tackles coming from any flavor of Air Raid.
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