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    @flugel said:

    From one 59 year old teenager to another - Happy Birthday Syd!!!!!

    Hell Ya Happy Birthday

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @syd said:

    Hell Ya Happy Birthday

    I already turned 59.  It's your birthday so go celebrate and tear it up on that gorgeous lake this weekend!  

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven

    As you chickenfuckers rub the sleep out of your eyes this morning, we are now Clay Matthews days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Matthews was a Browns 1978 first round pick (#12 overall) out of USC (the first of two first rounders that year, the second being Ozzie Newsome, used with the pick the Browns got from the Chicago Bears for Mike Phipps!), and Matthews would be one of the Ironmen of NFL history. He would end up playing an amazing 19 seasons, the first 16 with the Browns. His interception of Jim Kelly on the goalline sealed the Browns playoff win vs Buffalo during the 1989 playoffs, and he would be a four time Pro Bowler. He ended his career with 82.5 sacks and 16 interceptions.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    The inevitable march towards the beginning of the Browns 2023 season stops for no sabbath, as we are now Dante Lavelli days until the Browns opener vs the Bengals. Lavelli, a Hudson, Ohio native son of Italian immigrants, played a little college football at Ohio State before joining the Army in WWII. He would land on Omaha Beach on D-Day, and fight at the Battle of the Bulge, before signing with Paul Brown and his new AAFC team in 1946. A three time Pro-Bowler, he'd play with the Browns through the 1956 season, compiling 386 career receptions, 6488 yards and 62 touchdowns. Lavelli was instrumental in the formation of the player's union, too, and would be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1975. 

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  • The inevitable march towards the beginning of the Browns 2023 season stops for no sabbath, as we are now Dante Lavelli days until the Browns opener vs the Bengals. Lavelli, a Hudson, Ohio native son of Italian immigrants, played a little college football at Ohio State before joining the Army in WWII. He would land on Omaha Beach on D-Day, and fight at the Battle of the Bulge, before signing with Paul Brown and his new AAFC team in 1946. A three time Pro-Bowler, he'd play with the Browns through the 1956 season, compiling 386 career receptions, 6488 yards and 62 touchdowns. Lavelli was instrumental in the formation of the player's union, too, and would be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1975. 

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    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    The inevitable march towards the beginning of the Browns 2023 season stops for no sabbath, as we are now Dante Lavelli days until the Browns opener vs the Bengals. Lavelli, a Hudson, Ohio native son of Italian immigrants, played a little college football at Ohio State before joining the Army in WWII. He would land on Omaha Beach on D-Day, and fight at the Battle of the Bulge, before signing with Paul Brown and his new AAFC team in 1946. A three time Pro-Bowler, he'd play with the Browns through the 1956 season, compiling 386 career receptions, 6488 yards and 62 touchdowns. Lavelli was instrumental in the formation of the player's union, too, and would be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1975. 

    dante lavelli.jpeg

    Great pick.  The BIG  little guy from our old "gip"  would have loved.   On to LB numbers soon ??

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The inevitable march towards the beginning of the Browns 2023 season stops for no sabbath, as we are now Dante Lavelli days until the Browns opener vs the Bengals. Lavelli, a Hudson, Ohio native son of Italian immigrants, played a little college football at Ohio State before joining the Army in WWII. He would land on Omaha Beach on D-Day, and fight at the Battle of the Bulge, before signing with Paul Brown and his new AAFC team in 1946. A three time Pro-Bowler, he'd play with the Browns through the 1956 season, compiling 386 career receptions, 6488 yards and 62 touchdowns. Lavelli was instrumental in the formation of the player's union, too, and would be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1975. 

    dante lavelli.jpeg

    Great pick.  The BIG  little guy from our old "gip"  would have loved.   On to LB numbers soon ??

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @mjp28 said:

    Great pick.  The BIG  little guy from our old "gip"  would have loved.   On to LB numbers soon ??

    I'm sure there is a LB in the next couple coming up... 

  • @mjp28 said:

    Oh yes ..... a Happy Birthday to you both syd & Flugel  !   ?  🙂

    It's just Syd's Birthday today.  Sorry for any confusion I caused.  

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    It's just Syd's Birthday today.  Sorry for any confusion I caused.  

    Nah, no confusion here.  SO flugs (not flags, lol).  How have you been ?    😊

  • @mjp28 said:

    Great pick.  The BIG  little guy from our old "gip"  would have loved.   On to LB numbers soon ??

    I'm sure there is a LB in the next couple coming up... 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm sure there is a LB in the next couple coming up... 

    You have got them !    Can't wait to see them.....     ?

  • @flugel said:

    It's just Syd's Birthday today.  Sorry for any confusion I caused.  

    Nah, no confusion here.  SO flugs (not flags, lol).  How have you been ?    😊

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @mjp28 said:

    Nah, no confusion here.  SO flugs (not flags, lol).  How have you been ?    😊

    ? I've been enjoying the journey.  Thanks for asking!  I hope things are going well for you too.  It's good to see you getting back in the mix.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven

    Time to gird your loins, gentlemen, because we are now Alex Mack days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Mack was another first round OLineman the Browns drafted in the 2000s, out of Cal Berkeley. In the seven seasons Mack manned the Center position for the Browns (2009-2015), he was a three time Pro Bowler. His season-ending injury in a blowout win in Pittsburgh marked the beginning of the end of the promising 2014 season. He'd move on to Atlanta in 2016 in free agency, going to three more Pro Bowls in four years, then finish his career in San Francisco with one more Pro Bowl before retiring prior to training camp, 2022.  

    alex mack.webp

  • Time to gird your loins, gentlemen, because we are now Alex Mack days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Mack was another first round OLineman the Browns drafted in the 2000s, out of Cal Berkeley. In the seven seasons Mack manned the Center position for the Browns (2009-2015), he was a three time Pro Bowler. His season-ending injury in a blowout win in Pittsburgh marked the beginning of the end of the promising 2014 season. He'd move on to Atlanta in 2016 in free agency, going to three more Pro Bowls in four years, then finish his career in San Francisco with one more Pro Bowl before retiring prior to training camp, 2022.  

    alex mack.webp

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    Time to gird your loins, gentlemen, because we are now Alex Mack days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Mack was another first round OLineman the Browns drafted in the 2000s, out of Cal Berkeley. In the seven seasons Mack manned the Center position for the Browns (2009-2015), he was a three time Pro Bowler. His season-ending injury in a blowout win in Pittsburgh marked the beginning of the end of the promising 2014 season. He'd move on to Atlanta in 2016 in free agency, going to three more Pro Bowls in four years, then finish his career in San Francisco with one more Pro Bowl before retiring prior to training camp, 2022.  

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    Alex Mack,  solid pick, good player did his 13 year career the right way.   And because I've always been a stats guy,  and always believed in a follow the money  plus  the  "other"  hidden numbers and stories.    And of course the character of the player a big plus in my book.

    Paychecks are a favorite of mine Mr Alex Mack did very well there,  the BROWNS also did well with Mack at center a few " other"  hidden stats.  In his 13 year career how many fines or suspensions did he have ..... give up ?   ONE in 13 years  that's it.  A forfeited  $5,000 minor offense  that's it.   Some players have a mile long rap sheet (NO names or details needed).  

    Oh the BIG NUMBERS he did very well, same for the Cleveland BROWNS.     😁 

    ★  To uncrunch the numbers  in  13 fine years  Mack earned   $83,228,068  in GAMEDAY  checks.   He did it right and retired a wealthy  NFL  interior lineman.   That gets  4★ of 4  in my books.     Enjoy your and your family's  retirement together.    ?     i love happy  endings.

    ▪︎ 13 seasons ▪︎  $59,595,000$15,175,000$900,000$200,000$1,000,000$4,800,000$1,308,068 ▪︎ $82,978,068. 2023$250,000------$250,000$59,845,000$15,175,000$900,000$200,000$1,000,000$4,800,000$1,308,068.  ▪︎ $83,228,068 ▪︎

    SEASONSTEAMSALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUCTURE BONUSOPTION BONUSINCENTIVETOTAL CASH7 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$25,670,000-$500,000$200,000-$4,800,000$1,230,000$32,400,0005 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$32,500,000$11,500,000--$1,000,000-$78,068$45,078,0681 seasonsPlayer Cash Earnings$1,425,000$3,675,000$400,000----$5,500,000

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    I'm almost embarrassed to admit that I just realized today that the Browns Training Camp starts Saturday down in West Virginia, but I didn't forget that we are now Linebacker Andra "Don't Confuse Me With The Wide Receiver The Browns Drafted With The Similar Name" Davis days from the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Davis was a 5th round pick out of Florida in 2002, and was a special team player his rookie season before starting for the next six seasons at MLB. He was a stout (6'1, 255lbs) tackling machine, routinely racking up well over 100 tackles a season. He finished his career with one season in Denver and two in Buffalo. 

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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    For the Cleveland BROWNS  the forgotten jersey number would be the number would be the number  54  over time. 

    That would be pretty much a good statement.    But a few good ones coming up ...... soon.    🙂

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven

    Well we couldn't be having any more fun if we all had Russian hookers pee on us, could we boys? Well try this on for size, we are only Joe Schobert days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season! Schobert was taken with a fourth round pick out of Wisconsin in 2016, coming off winning the Jack Lambert Trophy for the best college linebacker. He started four games at OLB for Ray Horton's 3-4 defense (remember Ray Horton's old man cornrows? Pepperidge Farms remembers) in his rookie season, then started at MLB for the next three seasons with the Browns, going to the Pro Bowl in 2017. After the 2019 season he left Cleveland in free agency for Jacksonville, who traded him after a season to Pittsburgh. After the 2021 season with the Steelers, they released Schobert. He signed and was released by Denver in August of 2022, then played briefly for Tennessee. As far as I can tell, he is not on a NFL roster for the 2023 season yet. 

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  • Well we couldn't be having any more fun if we all had Russian hookers pee on us, could we boys? Well try this on for size, we are only Joe Schobert days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season! Schobert was taken with a fourth round pick out of Wisconsin in 2016, coming off winning the Jack Lambert Trophy for the best college linebacker. He started four games at OLB for Ray Horton's 3-4 defense (remember Ray Horton's old man cornrows? Pepperidge Farms remembers) in his rookie season, then started at MLB for the next three seasons with the Browns, going to the Pro Bowl in 2017. After the 2019 season he left Cleveland in free agency for Jacksonville, who traded him after a season to Pittsburgh. After the 2021 season with the Steelers, they released Schobert. He signed and was released by Denver in August of 2022, then played briefly for Tennessee. As far as I can tell, he is not on a NFL roster for the 2023 season yet. 

    joe schobert.jpeg

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel

    @dutch-oven said:

    Well we couldn't be having any more fun if we all had Russian hookers pee on us, could we boys? Well try this on for size, we are only Joe Schobert days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season! Schobert was taken with a fourth round pick out of Wisconsin in 2016, coming off winning the Jack Lambert Trophy for the best college linebacker. He started four games at OLB for Ray Horton's 3-4 defense (remember Ray Horton's old man cornrows? Pepperidge Farms remembers) in his rookie season, then started at MLB for the next three seasons with the Browns, going to the Pro Bowl in 2017. After the 2019 season he left Cleveland in free agency for Jacksonville, who traded him after a season to Pittsburgh. After the 2021 season with the Steelers, they released Schobert. He signed and was released by Denver in August of 2022, then played briefly for Tennessee. As far as I can tell, he is not on a NFL roster for the 2023 season yet. 

    joe schobert.jpeg

    I really liked what he made of himself in Cleveland regardless of the short career thereafter. In appreciation of the post here's a little biscuit for our closet country music fan.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    Just in the nick of time, we are now D'Qwell Jackson days until the start of the 2023 season. Jackson was a 2006 second round pick of the Browns out of Maryland. Jackson was one of the longest tenured Browns of the 1999 and on era, playing in Cleveland for eight seasons, leading the AFC twice in tackles (2008 and 2011). He was a salary cap casualty after the 2013 season, and he would play his final three NFL seasons in Indianapolis. His interception of Tom Brady in a playoff loss to the Patriots started the "Deflategate" controversy. 

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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    D'Quell Jackson gets it in quality numbers over a few others like Dick Ambrose, Billy Andrews  (tounge twisters) and even ol' Pepper Johnson.  Moving on  ......

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    As we head towards the weekend, we are now Eddie "The Assassin" Johnson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Johnson was a seventh round pick of the Browns in 1981, out of Louisville. He started his career as a special teams player, not becoming a full-time starter at one of the inside linebacker spots of Marty Shottenheimer's 3-4 defense until 1984. Between 1984-86, he would amass an amazing 437 tackles! He would remain a starter through the 1988 season, but a change to the 4-3 defense with the arrival of Bud Carson relegated Johnson to backup status. He was released during the 1991 training camp by the Browns, and would retire soon after. He was diagnosed with colon cancer in 2000, and would sadly pass away at the age of 43 on January 21, 2003. He was one of my first favorite Browns players, rest in peace, Eddie. 

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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    Absolutely NO doubt on #51  EJ.  No other real competition there.  Some all favorites and an unusual number selection coming up soon.

    GO BROWNS  !

  • Just in the nick of time, we are now D'Qwell Jackson days until the start of the 2023 season. Jackson was a 2006 second round pick of the Browns out of Maryland. Jackson was one of the longest tenured Browns of the 1999 and on era, playing in Cleveland for eight seasons, leading the AFC twice in tackles (2008 and 2011). He was a salary cap casualty after the 2013 season, and he would play his final three NFL seasons in Indianapolis. His interception of Tom Brady in a playoff loss to the Patriots started the "Deflategate" controversy. 

    d'qwell jackson.jpeg

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    Just in the nick of time, we are now D'Qwell Jackson days until the start of the 2023 season. Jackson was a 2006 second round pick of the Browns out of Maryland. Jackson was one of the longest tenured Browns of the 1999 and on era, playing in Cleveland for eight seasons, leading the AFC twice in tackles (2008 and 2011). He was a salary cap casualty after the 2013 season, and he would play his final three NFL seasons in Indianapolis. His interception of Tom Brady in a playoff loss to the Patriots started the "Deflategate" controversy. 

    d'qwell jackson.jpeg

    Well done - Thanks!  He was a very reliable player and great leader. At 1 time, it felt like he was little overrated because his large tackle volume was mostly downfield in pursuit angles as opposed to being around the line of scrimmage vrs the point of attack. Not that there's ever anything wrong with consistently hustling and tackling. Having said that, I read somewhere that former Saint LB/FA acquisition Scot Fujita significantly helped D'Qwell out a lot in the film room with identifying specific formations and various stances from offensive linemen of opponents tipping off tendencies in various situations.  As a result, much more of Jackson's tackles were taking place at the line of scrimmage so I'm sure he was happy there were far less comparisons to Wali Rainer.

  • Absolutely NO doubt on #51  EJ.  No other real competition there.  Some all favorites and an unusual number selection coming up soon.

    GO BROWNS  !

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @mjp28 said:

    Absolutely NO doubt on #51  EJ.  No other real competition there.  Some all favorites and an unusual number selection coming up soon.

    GO BROWNS  !

    He was definitely a fan fave.  Frank Minnifield, who also played at Louisville, said Eddie was quite a mentor when he arrived in Cleveland from the USFL.  He said Eddie told him 1 time "that showboat stuff ain't gonna fly here. You are now a professional that is supposed to make plays."  Eddie Johnson and Mike Johnson were great LBers for us in the 80s.  Almost sounds like a commercial for band aids - "The hits are brought to you by Johnson and Johnson."  

    Yeah, they were definitely a big hit in Cleveland...