~ AND ~ ? only 204 days and now 92 ? 57 ? 32 ? 19 ? YES really ! And still counting... ? ....?
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And on the Seventh Day, the Lordth gaveth football, and there was much rejoicing. Yay. Which leads us to Paul Warfield days left until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. Warfield, a Warren, Ohio native, was a halfback/defensive back (and track star) at Ohio State under Woody Hayes, and was taken with the 11th overall pick in the 1964 NFL Draft by the Browns. The Browns saw him as a wide receiver, and he'd catch 52 balls for the World Champion Browns in his rookie season. (Interestingly enough, that would be the most receptions he would have in a single season in his career).
As the 60s were ending, Browns QB Bill Nelson's knees were turning to sawdust, so Cleveland traded Warfield to Miami for the 3rd overall pick of the 1970 Draft. They selected Purdue's Mike Phipps, who was perhaps the worst somewhat longterm starting QB in team history, while Warfield thrived in South Florida, helping the Dolphins go to three consecutive Super Bowls (1971-1973), winning two. (Note: An argument can be made that Mike Phipps was part of the worst AND best trades in team history. We know the worst part, but somehow the Browns got a 1978 first rounder out of Chicago for Phipps, used to draft Ozzie Newsome). After the 1974 season Warfield would jump from the Dolphins and the NFL to play in the World Football League in 1975 for Memphis, but the league folded after that one season. He would return to Cleveland in 1976 to play his final two NFL seasons.
Warfield is still considered by some to be the best or among the best WR to ever play. His 20.1 yards per reception is the highest of any player with 300 or more lifetime catches. He would catch 427 balls for 8,565 yards and 85 touchdowns, go to eight Pro Bowls and be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1983.
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It is also Dutch Oven days until the start of the 2023 season. This dashing young lad wore this uniform in his rookie Pee-Wee season in 1984 for the Ravenna Rams, and the flanker/wingback and middle linebacker would lead the team with a staggering nine yards receiving! (On one catch, the other reception the 3-2-1 Rams had was for two yards. We ran the ball, a lot). He would also score a defensive touchdown in his first game ever that season, falling on a fumble in the opponent's endzone.
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It is also Dutch Oven days until the start of the 2023 season. This dashing young lad wore this uniform in his rookie Pee-Wee season in 1984 for the Ravenna Rams, and the flanker/wingback and middle linebacker would lead the team with a staggering nine yards receiving! (On one catch, the other reception the 3-2-1 Rams had was for two yards. We ran the ball, a lot). He would also score a defensive touchdown in his first game ever that season, falling on a fumble in the opponent's endzone.
It is also Dutch Oven days until the start of the 2023 season. This dashing young lad wore this uniform in his rookie Pee-Wee season in 1984 for the Ravenna Rams, and the flanker/wingback and middle linebacker would lead the team with a staggering nine yards receiving! (On one catch, the other reception the 3-2-1 Rams had was for two yards. We ran the ball, a lot). He would also score a defensive touchdown in his first game ever that season, falling on a fumble in the opponent's endzone.
NICE! I can almost hear Keith Jackson narrating this. "Oooh by Gollaay! You better look out - that #42 can really lay a hurtin on ya. You better start blockin him cuz he'll gitchya and he'll hitchya. My new buddy Jim Croce calls him the football version of Bad, Bad Leroy Brown because he's meaner than a junkyard dawg. They better retire that #42 before he retires you!"
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it's cool dutch and mj have taken it to a whole new level
( Patience BROWNS fans, multiple sources and this one is under construction. ) " The Long/Short Story of Paul Warfield " Do read it after the many edits.
︎ FINAL EDIT, done.
Oh yes the "other " side of just the numbers in football and the players. We like to go to that whole new level.
Like our #42 Paul Warfield he had just graduated from WG Harding a few years ahead of my Freshman year at Niles McKinley HS. We played the Panthers in the last game every season, we knew all about Paul Warfield the very fast player that went on to Ohio State and on to our Cleveland BROWNS ..... and back.
The Cleveland Browns selected Warfield with the 11th pick of the 1964 NFL Draft. There was some thought for Warfield to play as a defensive back. But during workouts prior to the season, his play as a wide receiver impressed head coach Blanton Collier, and he was converted to the position. In his rookie season, he caught 52 passes for 920 yards and nine touchdowns. He averaged 17.8 yards per reception, and his speed served to complement the power of star running back Jim Brown. The Browns finished the season atop the East Division with a 10–3–1 record, and defeated the Baltimore Colts 27–0 in the 1964 NFL Championship Game.
Warfield shattered his collarbone and missed the majority of the 1965 season as a result. Warfield returned to form in 1966, catching 36 passes for 741 yards and five touchdowns, and in 1967 recorded 32 receptions for 702 yards and eight touchdowns. In 1968, Warfield caught 50 passes and for the only time in his career eclipsed 1,000 receiving yards, finishing with 1,067. His career-high 12 receiving touchdowns led the league that year.
The Browns again reached the NFL Championship Game, where they were shutout by the Baltimore Colts, 34–0. [ Who then lost in SB III to Broadway Joe ! ]
After another NFL championship game appearance for the Browns and Pro Bowl season for Warfield in 1969, he was traded to the Miami Dolphins for the third pick in the 1970 draft. The trade came as a shock to Warfield, who had established himself as one of the Browns' most popular players.
★ "I have to admit going to Miami was not a place I desired to go," said Warfield 30 years later. The Browns used the pick acquired in the trade on Purdue University quarterback Mike Phipps. The trade is considered one of the most lopsided in NFL history, as Phipps had only limited success for the Browns, while Warfield was a major factor in the Dolphins' championships in the early 1970s.
(And also.) Nelsen was a terrible quarterback for Pittsburgh but was very good for Cleveland. However, Nelsen's knee problems made the Browns front office nervous and he was not considered a long-term solution.
After the 1969 season, Art Modell decided he had to make another move. Let's cut out the heart of the team. So he first traded wideout Paul Warfield, (as a young BROWNS fan I was furious at this move ) for the No. 3 pick in the NFL draft, which was used on quarterback Mike Phipps. Phipps would throw 40 TDS in his Browns career versus 81 INTs.
But that is not the end. To replace Warfield, crafty Modell traded 1969 first-round draft pick running back Ron Johnson to the New York Giants, along with starting defensive tackle Jim Kanicki, for superstar wide receiver Homer Jones.
The only problem was that Warfield continued to make Pro Bowls and eventually made All-Pro in 1971, while Homer Jones only caught 10 passes for his Browns career. That's right, 10. Jones had made a living catching balls from ... (NY GIANT) ... Fran Tarkenton, who was famous for scrambling and ad-libbing, with Jones getting open like a teammate in a pickup basketball game. He wasn't good at actually running disciplined patterns like Warfield.
So, after all this, did they actually upgrade the quarterback position? Certainly, Bill Nelsen put up much better numbers in Cleveland than Mike Phipps. Dick Shiner had a higher TD percentage and lower INT percentage for his career than Phipps, even though Shiner played on much less talented teams. Was Nelsen an upgrade over Shiner? Shiner never played for Cleveland so we cannot say for certain how good he would have been. Moving Warfield on to Miami.
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In 1974, Warfield caught 27 passes for 536 yards and two touchdowns, and was invited to the last of seven consecutive Pro Bowls. The Dolphins again reached the playoffs, this time losing to the Raiders in the divisional round. Through five seasons with the Dolphins, Warfield compiled 156 receptions for 3,355 yards and 33 touchdowns. In 11 playoff games, he caught 34 passes for 717 yards and four touchdowns. Now the strange move(s).
Who remembers this move or moves ? In March 1974, he was selected by the Toronto Northmen in the second round (23rd overall) of the WFL Pro Draft. Prior to the start of the 1974 season, Warfield and teammates Larry Csonka and Jim Kiick made what were then surprising decisions. Tragically, they left the Dolphins at the conclusion of the season for what appeared to be more lucrative pastures with the Northmen of World Football League (WFL).
The Northmen then moved to Memphis, Tennessee, without playing a game in Toronto, and became the Memphis Southmen. Warfield played the 1975 season with the Memphis Southmen, catching 25 passes for 422 yards and three touchdowns. SO what now ?
SO how do you remember HOF Paul Warfield as a BROWN or a Dolphin ? After the dissolution of the WFL following the 1975 season, Warfield told reporters he would be interested in rejoining the Browns if the Southmen were not admitted into the NFL.[37] The Southmen were refused admittance, and Warfield was ultimately persuaded to rejoin by Browns owner Art Modell, who felt Warfield would be a valuable asset as both a receiver and in public relations. Warfield played his final two pro football seasons in Cleveland, catching 38 passes for 613 yards and six touchdowns in 1976 and 18 passes for 251 yards and two touchdowns in 1977. In his eight years with the Browns, he caught 271 passes for 5,210 yards and 52 touchdowns
In his 13 NFL seasons Warfield caught 427 passes for 8,565 yards for 20.1 yards per catch and scored 85 touchdowns. He added another 204 yards on 22 rushing attempts. In 18 playoff games, he caught 58 passes for 1,121 yards and five touchdowns. His 85 career receiving touchdowns is tied for 15th most in NFL history. and his 20.1 average yards per reception is tied for the fourth highest among players with at least 200 career receptions and the highest among players with at least 300 reception
At the time of his retirement, his 1,121 postseason receiving yards were the second highest total in NFL history, trailing only Fred Biletnikoff by 46 yards. What a career for the kid from Warren, Ohio born to end up a Buckeye.
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We are but three days until the Browns play in the Hall of Fame game, and Ray Ventrone days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. "Bubba" played high school football just outside Pittsburgh in Bridgeville, and went to Villanova where he was a hard-hitting, hustlin' safety. He went undrafted, but New England signed him as a free agent in 2005 and he had two stints with the Patriots, with a stint with the Jets in-between in the following four seasons.
In 2009 the Browns signed the free agent special teams player, and signed him to a three year extension the next year, and he responded by being selected as a Pro Bowl alternate. He'd leave the Browns in 2013, playing his last two seasons in San Francisco as their special teams captain.
After Ventrone retired, he became a special teams assistant coach with New England in 2015, then would be named the special teams coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts in 2018. The Browns would make them their special teams coordinator/assistant head coach in 2023.
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We are but three days until the Browns play in the Hall of Fame game, and Ray Ventrone days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. "Bubba" played high school football just outside Pittsburgh in Bridgeville, and went to Villanova where he was a hard-hitting, hustlin' safety. He went undrafted, but New England signed him as a free agent in 2005 and he had two stints with the Patriots, with a stint with the Jets in-between in the following four seasons.
In 2009 the Browns signed the free agent special teams player, and signed him to a three year extension the next year, and he responded by being selected as a Pro Bowl alternate. He'd leave the Browns in 2013, playing his last two seasons in San Francisco as their special teams captain.
After Ventrone retired, he became a special teams assistant coach with New England in 2015, then would be named the special teams coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts in 2018. The Browns would make them their special teams coordinator/assistant head coach in 2023.We are but three days until the Browns play in the Hall of Fame game, and Ray Ventrone days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. "Bubba" played high school football just outside Pittsburgh in Bridgeville, and went to Villanova where he was a hard-hitting, hustlin' safety. He went undrafted, but New England signed him as a free agent in 2005 and he had two stints with the Patriots, with a stint with the Jets in-between in the following four seasons.
In 2009 the Browns signed the free agent special teams player, and signed him to a three year extension the next year, and he responded by being selected as a Pro Bowl alternate. He'd leave the Browns in 2013, playing his last two seasons in San Francisco as their special teams captain.
After Ventrone retired, he became a special teams assistant coach with New England in 2015, then would be named the special teams coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts in 2018. The Browns would make them their special teams coordinator/assistant head coach in 2023.
Relax Dutch there were only 15 guys that ever wore the #41 and only ONE had more games than Ray Ventrone and he was a TE from (as in born in) MISSISSIPPI with the nickname "catfish " with exactly -0- TDs.... i have no idea whatsoever why ..... EXCEPT I wouldn't want a locker next to his in any direction.....
SO you're safe there, I imagine you might have real good picks coming up real soon ! I'll pass it over to you..... and feel that somehow I need a shower..... soon.
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We are but three days until the Browns play in the Hall of Fame game, and Ray Ventrone days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. "Bubba" played high school football just outside Pittsburgh in Bridgeville, and went to Villanova where he was a hard-hitting, hustlin' safety. He went undrafted, but New England signed him as a free agent in 2005 and he had two stints with the Patriots, with a stint with the Jets in-between in the following four seasons.
In 2009 the Browns signed the free agent special teams player, and signed him to a three year extension the next year, and he responded by being selected as a Pro Bowl alternate. He'd leave the Browns in 2013, playing his last two seasons in San Francisco as their special teams captain.
After Ventrone retired, he became a special teams assistant coach with New England in 2015, then would be named the special teams coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts in 2018. The Browns would make them their special teams coordinator/assistant head coach in 2023.
Relax Dutch there were only 15 guys that ever wore the #41 and only ONE had more games than Ray Ventrone and he was a TE from (as in born in) MISSISSIPPI with the nickname "catfish " with exactly -0- TDs.... i have no idea whatsoever why ..... EXCEPT I wouldn't want a locker next to his in any direction.....
SO you're safe there, I imagine you might have real good picks coming up real soon ! I'll pass it over to you..... and feel that somehow I need a shower..... soon.
Relax Dutch there were only 15 guys that ever wore the #41 and only ONE had more games than Ray Ventrone and he was a TE from (as in born in) MISSISSIPPI with the nickname "catfish " with exactly -0- TDs.... i have no idea whatsoever why ..... EXCEPT I wouldn't want a locker next to his in any direction.....
SO you're safe there, I imagine you might have real good picks coming up real soon ! I'll pass it over to you..... and feel that somehow I need a shower..... soon.
#41 wasn't a bumper crop of choices to pick from, but....
the guy I picked could very well end up being the next Cleveland Browns head coach.
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Been busy keeping up-to-date with all the Guardians trade moves, but never too busy to remind all you fine people that we are now Dub Jones days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season. William "Dub" Jones was a Louisiana native who started college at LSU, then transferred to Tulane due to the WWII era officer training program. He started his pro football career playing for the AAFC Miami Seahawks and Brooklyn (Football) Dodgers, before being traded to the Browns prior to the 1948 season. The tall halfback/flanker was a dual running/receiving threat, and would be named to the NFL Pro Bowl twice. He is the co-holder of the most touchdowns in NFL history when he nabbed six of them vs Chicago in 1951. In his career, which spanned from 1946-55, he would rush for 2210 yards and 21 touchdowns, and add 171 receptions for 2874 yards and another 20 touchdowns.
After his playing career ended, he would return to the Browns as an assistant coach for a handful of years. He is the father of 1976 NFL MVP QB Bert Jones, of the Baltimore Colts.
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Relax Dutch there were only 15 guys that ever wore the #41 and only ONE had more games than Ray Ventrone and he was a TE from (as in born in) MISSISSIPPI with the nickname "catfish " with exactly -0- TDs.... i have no idea whatsoever why ..... EXCEPT I wouldn't want a locker next to his in any direction.....
SO you're safe there, I imagine you might have real good picks coming up real soon ! I'll pass it over to you..... and feel that somehow I need a shower..... soon.
#41 wasn't a bumper crop of choices to pick from, but....
the guy I picked could very well end up being the next Cleveland Browns head coach.
#41 wasn't a bumper crop of choices to pick from, but....
the guy I picked could very well end up being the next Cleveland Browns head coach.
I saw it earlier but didn't read it yet. Judging by the reaction of our fans in here when he got hired as the STs Coordinator - people liked him enough as a player to be excited he's back as a coach. I didn't even know he ever had short hair when I saw your post this morning. I used to get a kick out him flying down the field with that Billy Ray Cyrus hairdo coming out of his helmet. The only thing missing was the shit kickers.
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#41 wasn't a bumper crop of choices to pick from, but....
the guy I picked could very well end up being the next Cleveland Browns head coach.
I saw it earlier but didn't read it yet. Judging by the reaction of our fans in here when he got hired as the STs Coordinator - people liked him enough as a player to be excited he's back as a coach. I didn't even know he ever had short hair when I saw your post this morning. I used to get a kick out him flying down the field with that Billy Ray Cyrus hairdo coming out of his helmet. The only thing missing was the shit kickers.
I saw it earlier but didn't read it yet. Judging by the reaction of our fans in here when he got hired as the STs Coordinator - people liked him enough as a player to be excited he's back as a coach. I didn't even know he ever had short hair when I saw your post this morning. I used to get a kick out him flying down the field with that Billy Ray Cyrus hairdo coming out of his helmet. The only thing missing was the shit kickers.
It also didn't hurt that the special teams under Pfeifer were hot garbage, so getting a ST coach who was considered "not hot garbage" was nice. ?
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I saw it earlier but didn't read it yet. Judging by the reaction of our fans in here when he got hired as the STs Coordinator - people liked him enough as a player to be excited he's back as a coach. I didn't even know he ever had short hair when I saw your post this morning. I used to get a kick out him flying down the field with that Billy Ray Cyrus hairdo coming out of his helmet. The only thing missing was the shit kickers.
It also didn't hurt that the special teams under Pfeifer were hot garbage, so getting a ST coach who was considered "not hot garbage" was nice. ?
It also didn't hurt that the special teams under Pfeifer were hot garbage, so getting a ST coach who was considered "not hot garbage" was nice. ?
Definitely that! 1 final cleanse. "Okay, do we have all 12 of ya? Make it happen!"
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We are barely 24 hours from the kickoff to the Browns preseason, and only Tashaun Gipson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. Gipson was an undrafted free agent picked up by the Browns out of Wyoming in 2012, and he's still playing! Gipson played with the Browns for four seasons (2012-15), being named to the Pro Bowl in 2014. After the Browns, the safety played for Jacksonville, Houston, Chicago and currently with San Francisco. He has 32 career interceptions, and 3 defensive touchdowns.
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We are barely 24 hours from the kickoff to the Browns preseason, and only Tashaun Gipson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. Gipson was an undrafted free agent picked up by the Browns out of Wyoming in 2012, and he's still playing! Gipson played with the Browns for four seasons (2012-15), being named to the Pro Bowl in 2014. After the Browns, the safety played for Jacksonville, Houston, Chicago and currently with San Francisco. He has 32 career interceptions, and 3 defensive touchdowns.
We are barely 24 hours from the kickoff to the Browns preseason, and only Tashaun Gipson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. Gipson was an undrafted free agent picked up by the Browns out of Wyoming in 2012, and he's still playing! Gipson played with the Browns for four seasons (2012-15), being named to the Pro Bowl in 2014. After the Browns, the safety played for Jacksonville, Houston, Chicago and currently with San Francisco. He has 32 career interceptions, and 3 defensive touchdowns.
From an UFA to some pretty good numbers ..... not bad at all. I'll take that.
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We are barely 24 hours from the kickoff to the Browns preseason, and only Tashaun Gipson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. Gipson was an undrafted free agent picked up by the Browns out of Wyoming in 2012, and he's still playing! Gipson played with the Browns for four seasons (2012-15), being named to the Pro Bowl in 2014. After the Browns, the safety played for Jacksonville, Houston, Chicago and currently with San Francisco. He has 32 career interceptions, and 3 defensive touchdowns.
From an UFA to some pretty good numbers ..... not bad at all. I'll take that.
From an UFA to some pretty good numbers ..... not bad at all. I'll take that.
The next few days are a little on the light side of "Browns greats", but you'll have that. It will pick up this weekend
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The next few days are a little on the light side of "Browns greats", but you'll have that. It will pick up this weekend
That's TRUE ...... then it should pick up a lot in the mid to lower #30's I think we all can count on that BIG time including a GOAT or two.
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We are barely 24 hours from the kickoff to the Browns preseason, and only Tashaun Gipson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. Gipson was an undrafted free agent picked up by the Browns out of Wyoming in 2012, and he's still playing! Gipson played with the Browns for four seasons (2012-15), being named to the Pro Bowl in 2014. After the Browns, the safety played for Jacksonville, Houston, Chicago and currently with San Francisco. He has 32 career interceptions, and 3 defensive touchdowns.
We are barely 24 hours from the kickoff to the Browns preseason, and only Tashaun Gipson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. Gipson was an undrafted free agent picked up by the Browns out of Wyoming in 2012, and he's still playing! Gipson played with the Browns for four seasons (2012-15), being named to the Pro Bowl in 2014. After the Browns, the safety played for Jacksonville, Houston, Chicago and currently with San Francisco. He has 32 career interceptions, and 3 defensive touchdowns.
Looking at his career volume of INTs and TDs - can you imagine how many he had in practice against some of the names on that QB T-shirt? He had to be thinking "Here Comes Santa Claus" all practice. This place should have been the recruiting capital for Undrafted FA DBs looking to make a team. Gipson knew what he was doing coming here.
Meanwhile, I can't help but thinking ahead to the number on my avatar. @syd shared a 23 minute highlight video of him from 1973 to 1976 in a thread earlier this year. Ever since, and I mean this in a good way, I put Sydsies in the Cleveland Browns football junkie category. That's only 1 one of the gems we had that wore #34 though...
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We are barely 24 hours from the kickoff to the Browns preseason, and only Tashaun Gipson days until the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns regular season. Gipson was an undrafted free agent picked up by the Browns out of Wyoming in 2012, and he's still playing! Gipson played with the Browns for four seasons (2012-15), being named to the Pro Bowl in 2014. After the Browns, the safety played for Jacksonville, Houston, Chicago and currently with San Francisco. He has 32 career interceptions, and 3 defensive touchdowns.
Looking at his career volume of INTs and TDs - can you imagine how many he had in practice against some of the names on that QB T-shirt? He had to be thinking "Here Comes Santa Claus" all practice. This place should have been the recruiting capital for Undrafted FA DBs looking to make a team. Gipson knew what he was doing coming here.
Meanwhile, I can't help but thinking ahead to the number on my avatar. @syd shared a 23 minute highlight video of him from 1973 to 1976 in a thread earlier this year. Ever since, and I mean this in a good way, I put Sydsies in the Cleveland Browns football junkie category. That's only 1 one of the gems we had that wore #34 though...
Looking at his career volume of INTs and TDs - can you imagine how many he had in practice against some of the names on that QB T-shirt? He had to be thinking "Here Comes Santa Claus" all practice. This place should have been the recruiting capital for Undrafted FA DBs looking to make a team. Gipson knew what he was doing coming here.
Meanwhile, I can't help but thinking ahead to the number on my avatar. @syd shared a 23 minute highlight video of him from 1973 to 1976 in a thread earlier this year. Ever since, and I mean this in a good way, I put Sydsies in the Cleveland Browns football junkie category. That's only 1 one of the gems we had that wore #34 though...
32 mins to kickoff and unfortunately there will not be a #34 on the field tonight for The Browns
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Less than 30 minutes from the start of the 2023 Browns season, and Antonio Langham days until the Browns and Bengals kickoff the regular season. Langham was an All-American cornerback at Alabama, in fact, he still holds the record for most career interceptions for the Crimson Tide with 19. The Browns selected the corner in the first round (#9 overall) and he was a solid player for the team for his first two seasons. Then Modell moved the team, and Langham moved with them to Baltimore, playing there for two more seasons. Eventually the Browns would select Langham in the 1999 expansion draft, and he would be one of two players (OTackle Orlando Brown being the other) who would play for the original Browns AND the expansion Browns.
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With the first preseason game under our belts, we're rounding third and heading home on our march towards the start of the 2023 Cleveland Browns season, as we are only Anthony Henry days left! Henry was a 2001 fourth round pick out of South Florida, and the cornerback hit the ground running his rookie season, grabbing 10 interceptions on the year, including four in one game vs Detroit (I was there!). After the 2004 season, Henry would leave in free agency and go to Dallas for another four seasons, before ending his career in Detroit after the 2009 season.
I posted this photo to remind all of you how ugly the Butch Davis era orange jerseys were. Oof.
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