? Preseason Game 1: Jets at Browns Aug 3. ? and GO BROWNS !
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Jesus Schwartz.
He's just not a football player.
Jesus Schwartz.
He's just not a football player.
Is this where his parents come and get him and explain how flag football is just as much fun as big boy tackle football ..... and he cries and gets in the car and they go to DQ ..... and we BROWNS fans avoid another week of him trying to do it all over again.
Really now will he ever become an exciting NFL player to watch - or - do we het another week of Jesus Schwartz trying again and again of ooohs and OH-NOs and UH-OHs on the field. Well I hope that's the biggest problem that the BROWNS have do deal with going into week P2 ....... oh, uh-oh the kicking game ?
You don't want to play a good 59:57 and have 00:03 left and your kicker pull a D'OH ! (well maybe not exactly this kicker moment in kicker memories)
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Some quick thoughts this (super) early AM, before I head out for laps.
- You sometimes forget how massive of a human being Dawand Jones is. But he makes big people look.... not big.
- Jordan Elliot getting snaps as late as he did means he's the 1st on the bubble. And since TT outplayed him at the 3 tech, I still stand pretty firm thinking he might be the odd man out if one of Hill or Mo make it healthy.
- Togiai also played nicely at the 3 tech. You can tell he's settling into his NFL abilities, so it appears he's worked the most on his first step twitch and snap reaction. Because he had a few pressures on pass rush snaps. Either way, seeing him and Elliot play that late into a HoF, despite being previous years starters, pretty much summarizes and vindicates my assessment of the bulk of last years problems with this defense. I'd say it's more obvious than ever where the weaknesses lie(d)
- Schwartz is proof why drop rates and footwork are so important when evaluating receivers that lack elite physical prowess. His days are even more numbered than previously.
- Tony Fields has a future with this team. Nice to see him fly around. Though we still lack good LB's left to right.
- DTR is fun to watch, even with his sporadic ball placement at times. That block he threw will win him over in the locker room.
- Alex Wright getting snaps along the interior on expected pass rush downs. Color me SHOCKED (pink font?)
- Ika appeared to acquit himself rather nicely. Jets seemed content to attack the edges when the interior stuff wasn't working. He absolutely blew up that late Tony Dye run. Speaking of...
- Since DB's can't cut on the edge anymore, it's so incredibly vital that our boys outside hold that spot firmly. Part of the reason you see so many players in those positions with the wingspan they have. On that first TD run, McGuire found himself getting sucked to the inside shoulder and then over-estimating his ability to recover the edge.
- Chazz Surratt, I wondered where he ended up at after UNC. Dude had some wheels at LB and I had a favorable impression of him coming out of college. That pick he had against Mond was pretty damn good. Looks like home boy put on some weight because he was parked at a true MIKE for that one, read the split and flew under the lane. Have to appreciate quality defense at all times.
- John Kelly (JKJ from here out) is like D'Earnest, IMHO. At least, in the sense of the production we could get out of him. I think the dude would rush for 1000 yards behind this line if he got the touches. Either way he's the 3rd RB and I'm more than comfortable with that. The line and RB play is a direct testament to coach Stump and Callahan. We're very blessed to have them in CLE.
- Ceddy getting early work is promising. He'll find his way into this starting receiver group sooner rather than later.
- Watkins had a nice route from that backside tare for the TD. Really got the CB to flip his hips before his stab and drive back to the inside. Reminded me of Santonio Holmes vs Marlin Jackson in 04'.
Nice to see the good guys come back and win. For Joe Thomas, the fans, being a home game and the first game of any sort to the 2023 season especially. Let's hope there are some good omens here.
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I have never seen him play until tonight. He looks great against backups. You are probably right.
True; but to play against backups you have to be playing with backups. IMO, that evens all that stuff out. During his last year at UCLA, he had a 70% completion rate. He started off by completing 7 of his 1st 10 passes yesterday.
I had a very positive 1st impression of him...
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Defense looks fast and organized
Defense looks fast and organized
Key word in that sentence is "organized." Stupid question - wasn't that refreshing?
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Defense looks fast and organized
Key word in that sentence is "organized." Stupid question - wasn't that refreshing?
Key word in that sentence is "organized." Stupid question - wasn't that refreshing?
Yep. And there are several "oldsters" who seem history to me by real game day one. Schwartz (aversion to the ball), Mond (he'll land elsewhere that wants a pocket passer), Togiai and maybe Elliot.
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They are utilizing Felton better in the second half. He was never and still isn’t a between the tackles grinder…keep it to the screen and pitch game
They are utilizing Felton better in the second half. He was never and still isn’t a between the tackles grinder…keep it to the screen and pitch game
They've probably misused him frequently (while some of his bad habits didn't help) like the Browns misused Metcalf - until tonight. That UCLA chemistry looked magic for him. I'll bet Stump Mitchell has been on him to hit the daylight instead of negotiate it by dancing. I see some degree in coaching in this with the old "if you want to make the team" reminders. When he does hit it - he's 10-15 yards downfield at the blink of an eye.
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If I read a story that when Aaron Rodgers goes to restaurants the staff is informed that they are not to speak to, or even look at Aaron Rodgers while he is there I would totally believe it.
If I read a story that when Aaron Rodgers goes to restaurants the staff is informed that they are not to speak to, or even look at Aaron Rodgers while he is there I would totally believe it.
I think a lot of his former girlfriends that had similar experiences would agree with this statement. That's why his new matchmaker paired him up with "Sauce."
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Nifty running from DTR....
Felton with the TD!
Nifty running from DTR....
Felton with the TD!
If we can get Wills to block like DTR did on Felton's TD run - LAND HO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep. And there are several "oldsters" who seem history to me by real game day one. Schwartz (aversion to the ball), Mond (he'll land elsewhere that wants a pocket passer), Togiai and maybe Elliot.
Togiai played very well last night. I'm curious as to what you saw that makes you say hes history?
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I think Mond's NFL days are numbered. It's not the arm, it's his processor. The difference between DTR and him looks night and day.
I didn't think Mond looked horrible or anything - but I think you have a little UTAM loyalty clouding your judgment about him. I do that too Aggies!
If you're gonna be a pocket passer, you can't be late or you're wrong. Brady Quinn wasn't stupid (ie: 4.0 GPA at ND); but he couldn't process at the speed of the NFL game.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I think Mond's NFL days are numbered. It's not the arm, it's his processor. The difference between DTR and him looks night and day.
I didn't think Mond looked horrible or anything - but I think you have a little UTAM loyalty clouding your judgment about him. I do that too Aggies!
If you're gonna be a pocket passer, you can't be late or you're wrong. Brady Quinn wasn't stupid (ie: 4.0 GPA at ND); but he couldn't process at the speed of the NFL game.
I think Mond's NFL days are numbered. It's not the arm, it's his processor. The difference between DTR and him looks night and day.
I didn't think Mond looked horrible or anything - but I think you have a little UTAM loyalty clouding your judgment about him. I do that too Aggies!
If you're gonna be a pocket passer, you can't be late or you're wrong. Brady Quinn wasn't stupid (ie: 4.0 GPA at ND); but he couldn't process at the speed of the NFL game.
Mond looks shell shocked after every negative play... He's just not leader material...
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The reason many of us drink starts a new.
? Oh YES ! "Are you ready for some football " ? August 3rd, 2023.
The reason many of us drink starts a new.
? Oh YES ! "Are you ready for some football " ? August 3rd, 2023.
? Sorry I missed this yesterday while watching the game and an 87 year old woman with Alzheimers. I gotta start dating younger hotties. Just kidding, that's my mother-in-law. Telepathic interception: knock it off Nickers!
Yeah, I used to think if I drank the depressants while watching the depressants - it would provide the type of positive solution that giving a hyperactive kid Ritalin/Speed does. WRONG!
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That DTR block before the TD was more exciting than the run itself, it's hard to deny Kelly RB3
That DTR block before the TD was more exciting than the run itself, it's hard to deny Kelly RB3
I agree with you about Kelly.
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I think Mond's NFL days are numbered. It's not the arm, it's his processor. The difference between DTR and him looks night and day.
I didn't think Mond looked horrible or anything - but I think you have a little UTAM loyalty clouding your judgment about him. I do that too Aggies!
If you're gonna be a pocket passer, you can't be late or you're wrong. Brady Quinn wasn't stupid (ie: 4.0 GPA at ND); but he couldn't process at the speed of the NFL game.
I think Mond's NFL days are numbered. It's not the arm, it's his processor. The difference between DTR and him looks night and day.
I didn't think Mond looked horrible or anything - but I think you have a little UTAM loyalty clouding your judgment about him. I do that too Aggies!
If you're gonna be a pocket passer, you can't be late or you're wrong. Brady Quinn wasn't stupid (ie: 4.0 GPA at ND); but he couldn't process at the speed of the NFL game.
Mond's processing yesterday at face value alarmingly slow. It felt like he was walking in mud just to get the ball out, even on screens. I suppose it could be worse at face value to put him on PS (assuming he can be, I always get so confused on those rules), but DTR should absolutely be the emergency 3rd QB dressed with the new rule.
A few random thoughts-
I hope they are considering bringing in some kicking competition. York seemingly has the yips-even the extra points look shaky. Succop is still out there, could be a good motivator to say the least.
I've always thought Kelly looked good in the limited chances he got- really goes to show how good Stump is to any RB that walks in the building
Schwartz experiment is done- dude should honestly be in the first round of cuts at this point. With hopefully Grant and/or Goodwin being available, the only very small thing he brings to the table isn't needed. The fact he's even made it to year 3 is interesting with how bad he looks out there.
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I was impressed with our defensive line. At first glance the Jets have some veteran depth (and a pretty decent rookie Center) on the OL that played a lot last night- we seemingly controlled the line of scrimmage and the success they had (little) was bouncing runs.
DTR has very good pocket awareness. Looks like he has capable arm strength. Definitely has a long NFL career ahead of him whether that ceiling is a 1 or quality 2 who knows.
How many more Schwartz end arounds - that are blocked well - do we have to go through?
Don’t recall the name but I thought we had a depth TE that made a couple nice catches.
I don’t see Kelly and Felton both making the 53…but one is probably a better fit for our run scheme and the other is used correctly about 10-20% of the time.
Aside from burnt toast in the first quarter- I couldn’t pick out hardly any flaws in our secondary and we had some guys that I didn’t know were on the roster playing a lot. We dropped a couple INTs- we were around the ball all night. Maybe McAllister was a little handsy (looked like the contact came as the ball was around the WRs hands.
Be patient with York.
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Does Watson play at all this preseason?
Because he really should.
Does Watson play at all this preseason?
Because he really should.
i believe that i read he will play some vs washington
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Yep. And there are several "oldsters" who seem history to me by real game day one. Schwartz (aversion to the ball), Mond (he'll land elsewhere that wants a pocket passer), Togiai and maybe Elliot.
Togiai played very well last night. I'm curious as to what you saw that makes you say hes history?
Togiai played very well last night. I'm curious as to what you saw that makes you say hes history?
I'm not limiting myself to last night against 2nd/3rd stringers. It's primarily based on last year being pushed all over the place when in the game. We have far better replacements added to the team this year, so PS is most likely.
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Turns out Dawand Jones went the entire game at RT ; Hudson went the entire game at LT; i think Wypler went the entire game at C. Our future starters?
PFF showed Jones and Wypler allowed zero pressures [jones lost 1 passrush, wypler lost 0] but can't find runblock for any
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Turns out Dawand Jones went the entire game at RT ; Hudson went the entire game at LT; i think Wypler went the entire game at C. Our future starters?
PFF showed Jones and Wypler allowed zero pressures [jones lost 1 passrush, wypler lost 0] but can't find runblock for any
Turns out Dawand Jones went the entire game at RT ; Hudson went the entire game at LT; i think Wypler went the entire game at C. Our future starters?
it sure would be nice to save some money being spent on the o-line, Pocic can play guard
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