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  • @texasag1969 said:

    That Heisman year he set the SEC all-time running/passing yardage mark and showed the Sooners & the Stoops brothers how it all worked.?

    Yeah, but that didn't work too well in the NFL...where half the defense was as fast if not faster than he was.  He was a spoiled little boy playing a man's game in the NFL.

    @orion said:

    Yeah, but that didn't work too well in the NFL...where half the defense was as fast if not faster than he was.  He was a spoiled little boy playing a man's game in the NFL.

    Maybe so, but he was still good in college..

    His problem is he never took things seriously.  Johnny is always going to be a frat boy.  He made a lot of money.  His family has a lot of money, so he can afford to be a frat boy all his life.  I am sure a lot of us would have opted for that route if it was possible.

    To another comment, I agree, that Netflix QB special isn't that special.

  • @orion said:

    Yeah, but that didn't work too well in the NFL...where half the defense was as fast if not faster than he was.  He was a spoiled little boy playing a man's game in the NFL.

    Maybe so, but he was still good in college..

    His problem is he never took things seriously.  Johnny is always going to be a frat boy.  He made a lot of money.  His family has a lot of money, so he can afford to be a frat boy all his life.  I am sure a lot of us would have opted for that route if it was possible.

    To another comment, I agree, that Netflix QB special isn't that special.

    @ballpeen said:

    Maybe so, but he was still good in college..

    His problem is he never took things seriously.  Johnny is always going to be a frat boy.  He made a lot of money.  His family has a lot of money, so he can afford to be a frat boy all his life.  I am sure a lot of us would have opted for that route if it was possible.

    To another comment, I agree, that Netflix QB special isn't that special.

    yse, he was. He had a great cast around him, and he made things happen. In the military and college - I knew kids that weren't ready to be on their own. No principles, no moral guide - a few here and there were just self-destructive - that was J.M. - I don't like remembering him again. lol

  • @ballpeen said:

    Maybe so, but he was still good in college..

    His problem is he never took things seriously.  Johnny is always going to be a frat boy.  He made a lot of money.  His family has a lot of money, so he can afford to be a frat boy all his life.  I am sure a lot of us would have opted for that route if it was possible.

    To another comment, I agree, that Netflix QB special isn't that special.

    yse, he was. He had a great cast around him, and he made things happen. In the military and college - I knew kids that weren't ready to be on their own. No principles, no moral guide - a few here and there were just self-destructive - that was J.M. - I don't like remembering him again. lol

    @calfoxwc said:

    yse, he was. He had a great cast around him, and he made things happen. In the military and college - I knew kids that weren't ready to be on their own. No principles, no moral guide - a few here and there were just self-destructive - that was J.M. - I don't like remembering him again. lol

    Still trying to have amnesia on that pick... Jesus!

  • @orion said:

    Yeah, but that didn't work too well in the NFL...where half the defense was as fast if not faster than he was.  He was a spoiled little boy playing a man's game in the NFL.

    Maybe so, but he was still good in college..

    His problem is he never took things seriously.  Johnny is always going to be a frat boy.  He made a lot of money.  His family has a lot of money, so he can afford to be a frat boy all his life.  I am sure a lot of us would have opted for that route if it was possible.

    To another comment, I agree, that Netflix QB special isn't that special.

    @ballpeen said:

    but he was still good in college..

    That and a quarter will get ya a phone call.

    He was a Fran Tarkenton in college.  And with the athletes we have on modern NFL defenses Fran wouldn't realize the same success today.  Unless he stayed in college his whole career.   That's what I think anyway.

  • Well, the one thing everyone is shaking their head at now that the documentary is out is, shock, he spent zero time watching film.  Apparently it got dark as well.

    If nothing else, the documentary might get some publicity for the new bar he is opening in College Station.

  • I lied. I watched it.

    His Dad is a misguided turd. Blaming his coaches for their lack of guidance with Johnny and his behavior.  Not making an excuse but He didn’t have a shot. 

    And The Browns workout….what a clown show…no WRs and his lawyer and agent running routes!!!  His agent got him paid.

    Let me add…grandfather cleaning money for him in college…just wow 

  • I lied. I watched it.

    His Dad is a misguided turd. Blaming his coaches for their lack of guidance with Johnny and his behavior.  Not making an excuse but He didn’t have a shot. 

    And The Browns workout….what a clown show…no WRs and his lawyer and agent running routes!!!  His agent got him paid.

    Let me add…grandfather cleaning money for him in college…just wow 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I lied. I watched it.

    His Dad is a misguided turd. Blaming his coaches for their lack of guidance with Johnny and his behavior.  Not making an excuse but He didn’t have a shot. 

    And The Browns workout….what a clown show…no WRs and his lawyer and agent running routes!!!  His agent got him paid.

    Let me add…grandfather cleaning money for him in college…just wow 

    Didn't bother watching... An utter embarrassment... He can drown in a vat of shit as far as I'm concerned...

  • Well, the one thing everyone is shaking their head at now that the documentary is out is, shock, he spent zero time watching film.  Apparently it got dark as well.

    If nothing else, the documentary might get some publicity for the new bar he is opening in College Station.

    @tinythinker said:

    Well, the one thing everyone is shaking there head at now that the documentary is out is, shock, he spent zero time watching film.  Apparently it got dark as well.

    If nothing else, the documentary might get some publicity for the new bar he is opening in College Station.

    And NO ONE saw this coming? I don't know whats scarier, the fact that we drafted him, or everyone in the Browns organization never saw this coming!

  • Anybody else watch the Netflix documentary?

    Whatta shitty human being. 

  • Didn't bother... He's pure garbage...

  • N Neo

    @tinythinker said:

    Well, the one thing everyone is shaking there head at now that the documentary is out is, shock, he spent zero time watching film.  Apparently it got dark as well.

    If nothing else, the documentary might get some publicity for the new bar he is opening in College Station.

    And NO ONE saw this coming? I don't know whats scarier, the fact that we drafted him, or everyone in the Browns organization never saw this coming!

    @neo said:

    And NO ONE saw this coming? I don't know whats scarier, the fact that we drafted him, or everyone in the Browns organization never saw this coming!

    His own father was quoted before the draft telling the world that he drank to self-medicate. 

    So apparently his dad saw it coming. 

  • Didn't bother... He's pure garbage...

    @nickers said:

    Didn't bother... He's pure garbage...

    Even worse than you imagine. 

  • Anybody else watch the Netflix documentary?

    Whatta shitty human being. 

    @alporcini said:

    Anybody else watch the Netflix documentary?

    Whatta shitty human being. 

    On this one Al, I just have to let a bad memory die.   There's another thread where they are discussing this a little bit called "If You Didn't Enjoy Him Enough The First Time, You're In Luck..."

  • @ballpeen said:

    Maybe so, but he was still good in college..

    His problem is he never took things seriously.  Johnny is always going to be a frat boy.  He made a lot of money.  His family has a lot of money, so he can afford to be a frat boy all his life.  I am sure a lot of us would have opted for that route if it was possible.

    To another comment, I agree, that Netflix QB special isn't that special.

    yse, he was. He had a great cast around him, and he made things happen. In the military and college - I knew kids that weren't ready to be on their own. No principles, no moral guide - a few here and there were just self-destructive - that was J.M. - I don't like remembering him again. lol

    @calfoxwc said:

    Johnny is always going to be a frat boy

    oh no it was johnny's fault...poor bud light

  • Well, the one thing everyone is shaking their head at now that the documentary is out is, shock, he spent zero time watching film.  Apparently it got dark as well.

    If nothing else, the documentary might get some publicity for the new bar he is opening in College Station.

    @tinythinker said:



    If nothing else, the documentary might get some publicity for the new bar he is opening in College Station.

    You think they'll have a drink called the Swan Song? ??

    Just Johnny Manziel riding an inflatable swan with a champagne bottle.

  • @alporcini said:

    Anybody else watch the Netflix documentary?

    Whatta shitty human being. 

    On this one Al, I just have to let a bad memory die.   There's another thread where they are discussing this a little bit called "If You Didn't Enjoy Him Enough The First Time, You're In Luck..."

    @flugel said:

    On this one Al, I just have to let a bad memory die.   There's another thread where they are discussing this a little bit called "If You Didn't Enjoy Him Enough The First Time, You're In Luck..."

    You mean like the car wreck  -or-  worse yet train wreck where you promise  not to look .... but you can't help it and sneak a quick glance ?    Oh no, too late you did anyway.

    And now you're stuck with it on your memory.  And we have Johnny bleepin  football to thanks for that.    😮

  • @flugel said:

    On this one Al, I just have to let a bad memory die.   There's another thread where they are discussing this a little bit called "If You Didn't Enjoy Him Enough The First Time, You're In Luck..."

    You mean like the car wreck  -or-  worse yet train wreck where you promise  not to look .... but you can't help it and sneak a quick glance ?    Oh no, too late you did anyway.

    And now you're stuck with it on your memory.  And we have Johnny bleepin  football to thanks for that.    😮

    @mjp28 said:

    You mean like the car wreck  -or-  worse yet train wreck where you promise  not to look .... but you can't help it and sneak a quick glance ?    Oh no, too late you did anyway.

    And now you're stuck with it on your memory.  And we have Johnny bleepin  football to thanks for that.    😮

    I think I’m guilty of the train wreck comment.  I know one thing….Ray Farmer will never sniff a GM job again 

  • @mjp28 said:

    You mean like the car wreck  -or-  worse yet train wreck where you promise  not to look .... but you can't help it and sneak a quick glance ?    Oh no, too late you did anyway.

    And now you're stuck with it on your memory.  And we have Johnny bleepin  football to thanks for that.    😮

    I think I’m guilty of the train wreck comment.  I know one thing….Ray Farmer will never sniff a GM job again 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I think I’m guilty of the train wreck comment.  I know one thing….Ray Farmer will never sniff a GM job again 

    Now, now, now! Everybody knows the Manziel pick came from the homeless guy on the street, not the GM.?

  • Eh, maybe it's the old man and father in me but I don't have the disdain for Johnny Football like some others have. Honestly, I have way, way more contempt for the clowns in the organization who drafted him despite overtly obvious red flags. I was the poor kid in private school and have seen a bunch of guys go crazy in their college years like Johnny did. Sympathy isn't the right word, for sure, but I also through my "adult" lens can realize it was just bad/apathetic parents and a cry for help. Give folks like that a lot of money and fame? Recipe for disaster.

    I really don't have the inclination to watch this, but people can change and hopefully Manziel has.

  • Eh, maybe it's the old man and father in me but I don't have the disdain for Johnny Football like some others have. Honestly, I have way, way more contempt for the clowns in the organization who drafted him despite overtly obvious red flags. I was the poor kid in private school and have seen a bunch of guys go crazy in their college years like Johnny did. Sympathy isn't the right word, for sure, but I also through my "adult" lens can realize it was just bad/apathetic parents and a cry for help. Give folks like that a lot of money and fame? Recipe for disaster.

    I really don't have the inclination to watch this, but people can change and hopefully Manziel has.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Eh, maybe it's the old man and father in me but I don't have the disdain for Johnny Football like some others have. Honestly, I have way, way more contempt for the clowns in the organization who drafted him despite overtly obvious red flags. I was the poor kid in private school and have seen a bunch of guys go crazy in their college years like Johnny did. Sympathy isn't the right word, for sure, but I also through my "adult" lens can realize it was just bad/apathetic parents and a cry for help. Give folks like that a lot of money and fame? Recipe for disaster.

    I really don't have the inclination to watch this, but people can change and hopefully Manziel has.

    I always felt the disaster was his parents and the coaches (both college and pro) not sitting him down and clearly making him understand he was not mentally mature enough for the NFL. He should have stayed all 4 years and been given that chance. Kids that age can't make that kind of decision without a lot of honest help. I think we all realize it was years too soon if ever.