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  • @unsympathetic said:

    Perhaps Schwartz can kick

    Wouldn’t hurt….he can’t do anything else.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Wouldn’t hurt….he can’t do anything else.

    That poor kid probably couldn't catch a cold in cold and flu season.  

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Wouldn’t hurt….he can’t do anything else.

    That poor kid probably couldn't catch a cold in cold and flu season.  

    @flugel said:

    That poor kid probably couldn't catch a cold in cold and flu season.  

    I know, I shouldn’t be so negative about the guy…but it’s so damned easy.

    AB needs to show him the door at the end of August.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    But Cox and Bahr doesn't exactly fit ballpeen's idea of "two rostered kickers" technically, right?

    Cox was the punter, who also could kick field goals. Not the same as having to strictly placekickers on the roster. 

    True.  Having said that, Groza played OT and place kicked while Cockroft punted and place kicked for much of his career.

    @flugel said:

    True.  Having said that, Groza played OT and place kicked while Cockroft punted and place kicked for much of his career.

    Groza's OT days were long over by then.

    Indeed...I said cox but almost said Bahr...i couldn't remember.

    Anyway, my point is I am not sure i would want to cut York just yet.

  • York has cost us a lot of games based on his missed kicks. I have nothing personal against him but he needs to go before these games start counting. 

  • My understanding is that yesterday's problem for York was that the grass was wet.   🙂

  • N Neo

    York has cost us a lot of games based on his missed kicks. I have nothing personal against him but he needs to go before these games start counting. 

    @neo said:

    York has cost us a lot of games based on his missed kicks. I have nothing personal against him but he needs to go before these games start counting. 

    hopefully some competition soon

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    @neo said:

    York has cost us a lot of games based on his missed kicks. I have nothing personal against him but he needs to go before these games start counting. 

    hopefully some competition soon

    @syd said:

    hopefully some competition soon

    Should’ve had that from day one

  • @flugel said:

    True.  Having said that, Groza played OT and place kicked while Cockroft punted and place kicked for much of his career.

    Groza's OT days were long over by then.

    Indeed...I said cox but almost said Bahr...i couldn't remember.

    Anyway, my point is I am not sure i would want to cut York just yet.

    @ballpeen said:

    Groza's OT days were long over by then.

    Indeed...I said cox but almost said Bahr...i couldn't remember.

    Anyway, my point is I am not sure i would want to cut York just yet.

    No worries.  We eventually got to that about Groza.  ?

    To your point in bold, I don't think the Browns want to cut York just yet either or they'd already have someone here competing with him.  If he struggles next week, they might want to worry less about hurting York's feelings and more about bringing in someone in to compete for the job. If that should happen and York gets outperformed - they can always put York on the practice squad.   

  • I don't know why they keep the guy around. Because he has a big leg? What's the use if he can't make his kicks? I would rather have a kicker with less leg but able to make his kicks. It just means you have to get closer. It shouldn't be a problem with this revamped offense.

  • @flugel said:

    That poor kid probably couldn't catch a cold in cold and flu season.  

    I know, I shouldn’t be so negative about the guy…but it’s so damned easy.

    AB needs to show him the door at the end of August.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I know, I shouldn’t be so negative about the guy…but it’s so damned easy.

    AB needs to show him the door at the end of August.

    ?.  I hear ya!  I have to remind myself Schwartz didn't draft himself in round 3.  My frustration is more with the guy who drafted this version of Edward Scissorhands with performance anxiety thinking he's just an easy Dr Frankenstein surgery away from waking up as the next Tyreek Hill.  I have yet to see a WR show up to Cleveland with rock quarry hands only to become anything from a reliable starter to one that frequents Pro Bowls. That doesn't happen on our watch...

  • He made a BIG-time kick to win us his 1st game ever.  But that's proving to be the anomaly.  We drafted him to end the kicking woes that we'd been going through...

  • He made a BIG-time kick to win us his 1st game ever.  But that's proving to be the anomaly.  We drafted him to end the kicking woes that we'd been going through...

    @orion said:

    He made a BIG-time kick to win us his 1st game ever.  But that's proving to be the anomaly.  We drafted him to end the kicking woes that we'd been going through...

    You mean the  "I'm your man for that kicker job" ...... oh yeah. Basically has not done anything since.

    Useless over 40  and not dependable up close.   Geeezzzz.

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  • @orion said:

    He was drafted.  Drafted because he was one of the best in college.  Unless he starts to show that he just can't get it through the uprights I should think he deserves more than the one season.  This is a key season for the future employment of more than a few in the Browns organization...whether they wear a helmet, a tie, or a headset.

    I understand your points however, he was the second-worst full-time kicker in the league last year. So he hasn't been getting it through the uprights 25% of the time. 

    @browns57 said:

    he hasn't been getting it through the uprights 25% of the time. 

    Perhaps that's why he wears #3.  He makes 3 out of 4 FG's.  Perhaps it's in his contract...like our starting LT that only blocks for 3.5 seconds.  

    I've been in his corner...but there might be something seriously wrong if ya can't make kicks in August.  I mean, what's November & December going to be like....

  • @ballpeen said:

    Groza's OT days were long over by then.

    Indeed...I said cox but almost said Bahr...i couldn't remember.

    Anyway, my point is I am not sure i would want to cut York just yet.

    No worries.  We eventually got to that about Groza.  ?

    To your point in bold, I don't think the Browns want to cut York just yet either or they'd already have someone here competing with him.  If he struggles next week, they might want to worry less about hurting York's feelings and more about bringing in someone in to compete for the job. If that should happen and York gets outperformed - they can always put York on the practice squad.   

    @flugel said:

    No worries.  We eventually got to that about Groza.  ?

    To your point in bold, I don't think the Browns want to cut York just yet either or they'd already have someone here competing with him.  If he struggles next week, they might want to worry less about hurting York's feelings and more about bringing in someone in to compete for the job. If that should happen and York gets outperformed - they can always put York on the practice squad.   

    True.  There are a lot of guys out there who can kick who aren't in the league for one reason or another just waiting for a chance or another chance.  It might not be the ideal, but you could bring in a guy on Sunday morning if you had to do that.  I don't know the names, but the Browns have that list...many of them being players we have heard of...probably some guys who kicked or tried to kick for the Browns at one point.

  • not any ? fans proudest moment, posting kicker links this Sunday morning ?  but, dirty deeds come dirt cheap

     https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/kicker-options-for-the-cleveland-browns-214164411/  options

    You can bet, Cade York will get the Cleveland media attention in Philly all week w/inter-squad practices

  • not any ? fans proudest moment, posting kicker links this Sunday morning ?  but, dirty deeds come dirt cheap

     https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/kicker-options-for-the-cleveland-browns-214164411/  options

    You can bet, Cade York will get the Cleveland media attention in Philly all week w/inter-squad practices

    @gumby73 said:

    not any ? fans proudest moment, posting kicker links this Sunday morning ?  but, dirty deeds come dirt cheap

     https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/kicker-options-for-the-cleveland-browns-214164411/  options

    You can bet, Cade York will get the Cleveland media attention in Philly all week w/inter-squad practices

    I don't understand how bringing in Robbie Gould would be a bad thing right now.  The guy has a pretty freakin good NFL resume which includes killer good accuracy in the windy city inclusive of frigid temperatures off a Great Lake.  Now why would that be significant? 

    Training Camp has always been about competing for starting jobs.  I hope when we play teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh we're less worried about protecting York's feelings than counting on the right guys for the ole compete to beat.  Just because Carlson somehow beat the odds after getting cut early doesn't mean York is Carlson.  As I said earlier in this thread, the Browns can always put York on the practice squad if they have to keep 1 FO ego caressed.

  • @gumby73 said:

    not any ? fans proudest moment, posting kicker links this Sunday morning ?  but, dirty deeds come dirt cheap

     https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/kicker-options-for-the-cleveland-browns-214164411/  options

    You can bet, Cade York will get the Cleveland media attention in Philly all week w/inter-squad practices

    I don't understand how bringing in Robbie Gould would be a bad thing right now.  The guy has a pretty freakin good NFL resume which includes killer good accuracy in the windy city inclusive of frigid temperatures off a Great Lake.  Now why would that be significant? 

    Training Camp has always been about competing for starting jobs.  I hope when we play teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh we're less worried about protecting York's feelings than counting on the right guys for the ole compete to beat.  Just because Carlson somehow beat the odds after getting cut early doesn't mean York is Carlson.  As I said earlier in this thread, the Browns can always put York on the practice squad if they have to keep 1 FO ego caressed.

    @flugel said:

    I don't understand how bringing in Robbie Gould would be a bad thing right now. 

     the Browns can always put York on the practice squad if they have to keep 

    That was the 1st stud on my list.. Berry would go way over his guardrails to sign a 40 year old kicker w/FA $$ (Dorsey & Berry passed on Gould previously. (Define 'all in')

    Veteran kicker Robbie Gould said today that, as much as he enjoyed his last six seasons in San Francisco, he will test free agency later this month and be kicking elsewhere in 2023.

    — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 4, 2023

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Veteran kicker Robbie Gould said today that, as much as he enjoyed his last six seasons in San Francisco, he will test free agency later this month and be kicking elsewhere in 2023.

    GM Lynch drafting Michigan's K Moody looks serious..

    https://ninernoise.com/posts/former-49ers-kicker-robbie-gould-confusing

  • @flugel said:

    I don't understand how bringing in Robbie Gould would be a bad thing right now. 

     the Browns can always put York on the practice squad if they have to keep 

    That was the 1st stud on my list.. Berry would go way over his guardrails to sign a 40 year old kicker w/FA $$ (Dorsey & Berry passed on Gould previously. (Define 'all in')

    Veteran kicker Robbie Gould said today that, as much as he enjoyed his last six seasons in San Francisco, he will test free agency later this month and be kicking elsewhere in 2023.

    — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 4, 2023

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Veteran kicker Robbie Gould said today that, as much as he enjoyed his last six seasons in San Francisco, he will test free agency later this month and be kicking elsewhere in 2023.

    GM Lynch drafting Michigan's K Moody looks serious..

    https://ninernoise.com/posts/former-49ers-kicker-robbie-gould-confusing

    @gumby73 said:

    That was the 1st stud on my list.. Berry would go way over his guardrails to sign a 40 year old kicker w/FA $$ (Dorsey & Berry passed on Gould previously. (Define 'all in')

    Veteran kicker Robbie Gould said today that, as much as he enjoyed his last six seasons in San Francisco, he will test free agency later this month and be kicking elsewhere in 2023.

    — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 4, 2023

    GM Lynch drafting Michigan's K Moody looks serious..

    https://ninernoise.com/posts/former-49ers-kicker-robbie-gould-confusing

    The cost of winning isn't cheap.  For example, how many close games have the Rats sucked out because their kicker made every kick (quite often including some over 50 yards)?

  • @flugel said:

    I don't understand how bringing in Robbie Gould would be a bad thing right now. 

     the Browns can always put York on the practice squad if they have to keep 

    That was the 1st stud on my list.. Berry would go way over his guardrails to sign a 40 year old kicker w/FA $$ (Dorsey & Berry passed on Gould previously. (Define 'all in')

    Veteran kicker Robbie Gould said today that, as much as he enjoyed his last six seasons in San Francisco, he will test free agency later this month and be kicking elsewhere in 2023.

    — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 4, 2023

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Veteran kicker Robbie Gould said today that, as much as he enjoyed his last six seasons in San Francisco, he will test free agency later this month and be kicking elsewhere in 2023.

    GM Lynch drafting Michigan's K Moody looks serious..

    https://ninernoise.com/posts/former-49ers-kicker-robbie-gould-confusing

    @gumby73 said:

    That was the 1st stud on my list.. Berry would go way over his guardrails to sign a 40 year old kicker w/FA $$ (Dorsey & Berry passed on Gould previously. (Define 'all in')

    Veteran kicker Robbie Gould said today that, as much as he enjoyed his last six seasons in San Francisco, he will test free agency later this month and be kicking elsewhere in 2023.

    — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 4, 2023

    GM Lynch drafting Michigan's K Moody looks serious..

    https://ninernoise.com/posts/former-49ers-kicker-robbie-gould-confusing

    Thank God Pittsburgh didn't draft Moody!