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  • Besides weight and "health", what was the knock with this dude? Was it a nonchalant attitude, people wondered if he was serious about football? Can't remember for sure. I was surprised to see him go so late in the draft. When you have the intangibles, putting the rest of the tools in the bucket is just a matter of good coaching. Yes, I know, it often doesn't work out. 

    This dude is a physical freak. I'm amazed at how well he moves. Hopefully he soaks up coaching like a sponge, and realizes he's in a great place with Callahan and a solid team upfront. 

  • Besides weight and "health", what was the knock with this dude? Was it a nonchalant attitude, people wondered if he was serious about football? Can't remember for sure. I was surprised to see him go so late in the draft. When you have the intangibles, putting the rest of the tools in the bucket is just a matter of good coaching. Yes, I know, it often doesn't work out. 

    This dude is a physical freak. I'm amazed at how well he moves. Hopefully he soaks up coaching like a sponge, and realizes he's in a great place with Callahan and a solid team upfront. 

    @fate said:

    Besides weight and "health", what was the knock with this dude? Was it a nonchalant attitude, people wondered if he was serious about football? Can't remember for sure. I was surprised to see him go so late in the draft. When you have the intangibles, putting the rest of the tools in the bucket is just a matter of good coaching. Yes, I know, it often doesn't work out. 

    This dude is a physical freak. I'm amazed at how well he moves. Hopefully he soaks up coaching like a sponge, and realizes he's in a great place with Callahan and a solid team upfront. 

     He was lit up the previous season by one of the few top-tier NFL pass rush prospects he faced. (Hutchinson).  So he got off to a rocky start, perception wise, in 2022. 

     Regardless of his athletic profile, there will always be concerns about this size being a detriment to his play.  But also how long he can hold up as a massive human being with that frame. I.E. the seasons will wear on him (likely) faster than other lineman. 

  • The knock from menace2sports, the podcast from Urban's WR coach, was that DJ was entitled the last year+ within the Woody and didn't work at film, conditioning, technique, or the weight pile.

    OTOH I thought I saw from an earlier article that DJ recognized the first week of rookie camp that he wasn't at the right level - and has been working on his conditioning.

    We'll see.  Let's hope he's also doing enough to minimize the soft-tissue injuries.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    I was AMAZED at his size and balance, and QUICK FEET for a big man. He has the agility to play basketball..... me, I'd hire Joe Thomas to work with him a bit. He's IMPRESSIVE.

    First, I don't think you would have to Hire him.

    Second, just because Joe was one of the best to ever play doesn't mean he can teach that.  Einstein taught students at Princeton and other universities but that doesn't mean they came out as smart.  Sometimes you are the best and that is just the way it is.  

    Some things you can't teach.  You just have.

    @ballpeen said:

    First, I don't think you would have to Hire him.

    Second, just because Joe was one of the best to ever play doesn't mean he can teach that.  Einstein taught students at Princeton and other universities but that doesn't mean they came out as smart.  Sometimes you are the best and that is just the way it is.  

    Some things you can't teach.  You just have.

    ah, excellent point.

  • The knock from menace2sports, the podcast from Urban's WR coach, was that DJ was entitled the last year+ within the Woody and didn't work at film, conditioning, technique, or the weight pile.

    OTOH I thought I saw from an earlier article that DJ recognized the first week of rookie camp that he wasn't at the right level - and has been working on his conditioning.

    We'll see.  Let's hope he's also doing enough to minimize the soft-tissue injuries.

    @unsympathetic said:

    The knock from menace2sports, the podcast from Urban's WR coach, was that DJ was entitled the last year+ within the Woody and didn't work at film, conditioning, technique, or the weight pile.

    OTOH I thought I saw from an earlier article that DJ recognized the first week of rookie camp that he wasn't at the right level - and has been working on his conditioning.

    We'll see.  Let's hope he's also doing enough to minimize the soft-tissue injuries.

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

  • @unsympathetic said:

    The knock from menace2sports, the podcast from Urban's WR coach, was that DJ was entitled the last year+ within the Woody and didn't work at film, conditioning, technique, or the weight pile.

    OTOH I thought I saw from an earlier article that DJ recognized the first week of rookie camp that he wasn't at the right level - and has been working on his conditioning.

    We'll see.  Let's hope he's also doing enough to minimize the soft-tissue injuries.

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

    @flugel said:

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

    besides DTR have they announced the starting line up for tommorows game

  • @unsympathetic said:

    The knock from menace2sports, the podcast from Urban's WR coach, was that DJ was entitled the last year+ within the Woody and didn't work at film, conditioning, technique, or the weight pile.

    OTOH I thought I saw from an earlier article that DJ recognized the first week of rookie camp that he wasn't at the right level - and has been working on his conditioning.

    We'll see.  Let's hope he's also doing enough to minimize the soft-tissue injuries.

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

    @flugel said:

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

  • @flugel said:

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    Position versatility would be nice.  He’s probably ahead of Hudson so if either tackle goes down maybe he’s the first one off the bench. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    Position versatility would be nice.  He’s probably ahead of Hudson so if either tackle goes down maybe he’s the first one off the bench. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Position versatility would be nice.  He’s probably ahead of Hudson so if either tackle goes down maybe he’s the first one off the bench. 

    I'm happy he seems to be doing well, but I keep reminding myself about him and DTR that this is preseason.

    As I said before, Deshone Kizer looked really good in his rookie preseason too. 

  • @flugel said:

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    Speaking of the Browns and the salary cap, they just restructured Myles' contract to free up a boatload of space...

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/08/browns-restructure-myles-garretts-contract-to-clear-12868-million-in-cap-space-have-the-most-space-in-nfl-now.html?fbclid=IwAR1w7V3LKL0aNUxkTh3hgjkfJNp74LlGPUXB-j7NQFkFxwTXEKpmLfNjbhQ

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    Speaking of the Browns and the salary cap, they just restructured Myles' contract to free up a boatload of space...

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/08/browns-restructure-myles-garretts-contract-to-clear-12868-million-in-cap-space-have-the-most-space-in-nfl-now.html?fbclid=IwAR1w7V3LKL0aNUxkTh3hgjkfJNp74LlGPUXB-j7NQFkFxwTXEKpmLfNjbhQ

  • @flugel said:

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    he did play some LT for the Bucks

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    @dutch-oven said:

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    he did play some LT for the Bucks

    @syd said:

    he did play some LT for the Bucks

    He's a mammoth man, I just wonder how well he would hold up against speed rushers. 

    I also will watch in the upcoming years how he maintains (or doesn't) his weight. 

  • It will be fun watching how Jones stacks up in his first game against watt.

    ' “What awesome technique! Firm inside hand, great feet/balance, never leans on outside hand but uses it to punch and steer….bravo @dawandj79.″ ' Joe Thomas

    ***********************************

       I got his feet and balance right !

  • @browns149 said:

    I watched him on a lot of plays. He has the ability to be very good. Just hope he can stay in decent shape

    Reminds you of a  HIGH SCHOOL Game with a really BIG  guy who would smash the younger guy on the other side of the line. EXCEPT these are the NFL players  the best on the planet.   Can he keep it up against them ?   We certainly hope so.

    @mjp28 said:

    Reminds you of a  HIGH SCHOOL Game with a really BIG  guy who would smash the younger guy on the other side of the line. EXCEPT these are the NFL players  the best on the planet.   Can he keep it up against them ?   We certainly hope so.

    LOL, mjp.  We're both around the same age- so you probably remember a guy by the name of John Hicks- offensive line. Ohio State, Jets NFL. John Hay high school in Cleveland. We (Benedictine) played John Hay several times when Hicks was there- and it was exactly as you described. Man among boys. 

    Oh, and my good friend and co season ticket holder had an unforgettable close encounter with Hicks- playing baseball. Don was a catcher and um- Hicks kind of steamrolled him at home plate.  

  • Passpro, obviously, he's doing well.

    Run blocking, though, needs a lot of work. Don't put him in Canton just yet.

  • 1 week at a time.  It's nice to be excited about an Offensive Tackle at very cap friendly prices.