Jason, Aloy, Ytown, Shep
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Probably. But the answer's in your statement. You expect that kind of effort and those kind of mistakes from a guy with 4 career starts... not from a guy with 27. It may not be fair, but it's true. Like I said, Anderson probably would've given them a better chance to win Sunday... but not a year from Sunday... or even this November.
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When Brady Quinn played against Denver last year he did no with much less practice than he did now and still looked great. So BQ being a rookie excuse seems illogical. And Anderson on his day could have given Brown offense a major boost with his arm. Let us not forget that it was with Derek Anderson as the QB did we manage to defeat NY Giants. Who knows if he could have had a repeat performance with him and BE being on the same page and opening up the running lanes for JL with the deep throws.
This is not a Quinn bashing post and Quinn does need time, but the conservative play calling is making me frustrated. giving Quinn the dink and dunk plays is going to make life more difficult for us. The sooner he starts making those throws the better it is. So what if Quinn fails ? shouldn't this time be about judging Quinn and see if he is a fast and good learner ?
If a new guy is the way to go, i dont want to wait for 2,3 seasons before we come to that conclusion. Mangini only has 3 years to show what he can do and if he cant exploit Quinn's talent or judge him then we are in for some trouble.
When Brady Quinn played against Denver last year he did no with much less practice than he did now and still looked great. So BQ being a rookie excuse seems illogical. And Anderson on his day could have given Brown offense a major boost with his arm. Let us not forget that it was with Derek Anderson as the QB did we manage to defeat NY Giants. Who knows if he could have had a repeat performance with him and BE being on the same page and opening up the running lanes for JL with the deep throws.
This is not a Quinn bashing post and Quinn does need time, but the conservative play calling is making me frustrated. giving Quinn the dink and dunk plays is going to make life more difficult for us. The sooner he starts making those throws the better it is. So what if Quinn fails ? shouldn't this time be about judging Quinn and see if he is a fast and good learner ?
If a new guy is the way to go, i dont want to wait for 2,3 seasons before we come to that conclusion. Mangini only has 3 years to show what he can do and if he cant exploit Quinn's talent or judge him then we are in for some trouble.
It's really not illogical. If it was, every QB that had a good start would never have growing pains, and that just isn't how it works in the NFL. Also, DEN D last year and the Vikings D aren't even in the same league. You really can't compare the two situations very much.
Maybe DA would have given CLE a boost with his arm, but maybe he wouldn't have. All depends on how the D setup it's coverages and plan w/ DA at the helm. It's also not like strong armed QBs have had much more success against MIN than any other QB. The big name QBs that faced that Vikings D last year had their share of struggles too.
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..Tell me what defense other than a poor Broncos defense has Brady done anything against?
Can't have it both ways. You're ridiculing excuses as to why Quinn didn't play better, then excusing his good play away by chalking it up to bad defenses.
The bottom line is its too early to tell on Quinn. If Quinn has a good game against Denver, there may be reason to hope, but still too early to tell.
The bottom line is its too early to tell on Quinn.
As long as he continues to suck, BQ Nation will always claim "it's too early to tell"
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The bottom line is its too early to tell on Quinn.
As long as he continues to suck, BQ Nation will always claim "it's too early to tell"
As long as he continues to suck,
You mean like averaging 140 yards passing in 6 games and 3-11 vs playoff teams? That kind of suck?
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I just want to go on record to say that Jason J should have his own sticky thread at the top, or maybe his own forum where he breaks down his thoughts from the game, because he is simply the most elite poster on this board.. what is his fricken post/thanks ratio? He is a true asset to this community
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I just want to go on record to say that Jason J should have his own sticky thread at the top, or maybe his own forum where he breaks down his thoughts from the game, because he is simply the most elite poster on this board.. what is his fricken post/thanks ratio? He is a true asset to this community
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I just want to go on record to say that Jason J should have his own sticky thread at the top, or maybe his own forum where he breaks down his thoughts from the game, because he is simply the most elite poster on this board.. what is his fricken post/thanks ratio? He is a true asset to this community
I just want to go on record to say that Jason J should have his own sticky thread at the top, or maybe his own forum where he breaks down his thoughts from the game, because he is simply the most elite poster on this board.. what is his fricken post/thanks ratio? He is a true asset to this community
I agree. Even though Stan's ass is sore from yesterday, I PM'd him with the idea that we give JJ, Alo, Shep, Ytown and DesertDawg their own forum.
That way we could all just sit back and "ooh and aahh" over their wonderful and brilliant takes agreeing with one another......maybe even snap one off while reading it.
Haven't heard back yet from Satn, but he may have went on another sabbatical. Maybe Zombo has some ideas.
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I just want to go on record to say that Jason J should have his own sticky thread at the top, or maybe his own forum where he breaks down his thoughts from the game, because he is simply the most elite poster on this board.. what is his fricken post/thanks ratio? He is a true asset to this community
I agree. Even though Stan's ass is sore from yesterday, I PM'd him with the idea that we give JJ, Alo, Shep, Ytown and DesertDawg their own forum.
That way we could all just sit back and "ooh and aahh" over their wonderful and brilliant takes agreeing with one another......maybe even snap one off while reading it.
Haven't heard back yet from Satn, but he may have went on another sabbatical. Maybe Zombo has some ideas.
Haven't heard back yet from Satn, but he may have went on another sabbatical.
He's at the mall.
He's finding that living in jean shorts just isn't giving him the proper perspective he needs to truly immerse himself into his Lumbergh character. I suspect he's at the Gap, trying on those wide wale cords, as we speak...
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@inspecta said:
Wow, resorting to outright lies. I didn't take the "DA sucks" stance until after the 2nd Cincy game. Me along with the rest of the board.I hate to have to explain history over and over but here goes.
There were two groups of people in 2007. Those who wanted Charlie Frye to start and those who wanted Brady Quinn to start.
Both groups agreed that Anderson should get cut. Tony Grossi predicted that Anderson would be cut prior to week 1.
Ken Dorsey was their favored choice for the #3. Something about him being very intelligent and coach-like (probably because he looks like an accountant)
When Frye got a one way ticket to Seattle, the Frye fans converted to Quinn fans.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
The consensus was that the change would take place no later than the bye week 7.
However some especially overzealous Quinn fans made weekly proclimations that Anderson would put the team in a 3 TD hole by halftime and Quinn would come in riding a white horse at halftime and lead a glorious comeback. (inspecta, shep)
This is when somebody named lumbergh decided to join up and pimp smack you BQ homos back into your mommas basements.
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@inspecta said:
Wow, resorting to outright lies. I didn't take the "DA sucks" stance until after the 2nd Cincy game. Me along with the rest of the board.I hate to have to explain history over and over but here goes.
There were two groups of people in 2007. Those who wanted Charlie Frye to start and those who wanted Brady Quinn to start.
Both groups agreed that Anderson should get cut. Tony Grossi predicted that Anderson would be cut prior to week 1.
Ken Dorsey was their favored choice for the #3. Something about him being very intelligent and coach-like (probably because he looks like an accountant)
When Frye got a one way ticket to Seattle, the Frye fans converted to Quinn fans.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
The consensus was that the change would take place no later than the bye week 7.
However some especially overzealous Quinn fans made weekly proclimations that Anderson would put the team in a 3 TD hole by halftime and Quinn would come in riding a white horse at halftime and lead a glorious comeback. (inspecta, shep)
This is when somebody named lumbergh decided to join up and pimp smack you BQ homos back into your mommas basements.
I hate to have to explain history over and over but here goes.
There were two groups of people in 2007. Those who wanted Charlie Frye to start and those who wanted Brady Quinn to start.
Both groups agreed that Anderson should get cut. Tony Grossi predicted that Anderson would be cut prior to week 1.
Ken Dorsey was their favored choice for the #3. Something about him being very intelligent and coach-like (probably because he looks like an accountant)
When Frye got a one way ticket to Seattle, the Frye fans converted to Quinn fans.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
The consensus was that the change would take place no later than the bye week 7.
However some especially overzealous Quinn fans made weekly proclimations that Anderson would put the team in a 3 TD hole by halftime and Quinn would come in riding a white horse at halftime and lead a glorious comeback. (inspecta, shep)
This is when somebody named lumbergh decided to join up and pimp smack you BQ homos back into your mommas basements.
Yeah that's exactly how it went.
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I hate to have to explain history over and over but here goes.
There were two groups of people in 2007. Those who wanted Charlie Frye to start and those who wanted Brady Quinn to start.
Both groups agreed that Anderson should get cut. Tony Grossi predicted that Anderson would be cut prior to week 1.
Ken Dorsey was their favored choice for the #3. Something about him being very intelligent and coach-like (probably because he looks like an accountant)
When Frye got a one way ticket to Seattle, the Frye fans converted to Quinn fans.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
The consensus was that the change would take place no later than the bye week 7.
However some especially overzealous Quinn fans made weekly proclimations that Anderson would put the team in a 3 TD hole by halftime and Quinn would come in riding a white horse at halftime and lead a glorious comeback. (inspecta, shep)
This is when somebody named lumbergh decided to join up and pimp smack you BQ homos back into your mommas basements.
Yeah that's exactly how it went.
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You mean like averaging 140 yards passing in 6 games and 3-11 vs playoff teams? That kind of suck?
no, like 70 yards passing and O-fer vs playoff teams.
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You mean like averaging 140 yards passing in 6 games and 3-11 vs playoff teams? That kind of suck?
no, like 70 yards passing and O-fer vs playoff teams.
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@inspecta said:
Holy hell, how much peyote do you think Lumnuts consumed before he ripped off that gem of a post?No dude, I know it is really, really hard to understand, but he is just that fooking pathetic without help.
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I just want to go on record to say that Jason J should have his own sticky thread at the top, or maybe his own forum where he breaks down his thoughts from the game, because he is simply the most elite poster on this board.. what is his fricken post/thanks ratio? He is a true asset to this community
I agree. Even though Stan's ass is sore from yesterday, I PM'd him with the idea that we give JJ, Alo, Shep, Ytown and DesertDawg their own forum.
That way we could all just sit back and "ooh and aahh" over their wonderful and brilliant takes agreeing with one another......maybe even snap one off while reading it.
Haven't heard back yet from Satn, but he may have went on another sabbatical. Maybe Zombo has some ideas.
I agree. Even though Stan's ass is sore from yesterday, I PM'd him with the idea that we give JJ, Alo, Shep, Ytown and DesertDawg their own forum.
That way we could all just sit back and "ooh and aahh" over their wonderful and brilliant takes agreeing with one another......maybe even snap one off while reading it.
Haven't heard back yet from Satn, but he may have went on another sabbatical. Maybe Zombo has some ideas.
Nah, not those other fellas, theyre great no lie, but not on that level.
Youve been getting better lately, so be nice (i cant tell if your being bad sarcastic, or good sarcastic), I'd hate to see you relapse Riffer
I still dont understand why so many people are reluctant to give Quinn time? Is it because most of you are older and dont have much time left? Are you impatient? I repeatedlt bring up the Eli Manning situation and it doesnt seem to soak in. zombo has dodged that one quite effectivel
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@inspecta said:
Wow, resorting to outright lies. I didn't take the "DA sucks" stance until after the 2nd Cincy game. Me along with the rest of the board.I hate to have to explain history over and over but here goes.
There were two groups of people in 2007. Those who wanted Charlie Frye to start and those who wanted Brady Quinn to start.
Both groups agreed that Anderson should get cut. Tony Grossi predicted that Anderson would be cut prior to week 1.
Ken Dorsey was their favored choice for the #3. Something about him being very intelligent and coach-like (probably because he looks like an accountant)
When Frye got a one way ticket to Seattle, the Frye fans converted to Quinn fans.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
The consensus was that the change would take place no later than the bye week 7.
However some especially overzealous Quinn fans made weekly proclimations that Anderson would put the team in a 3 TD hole by halftime and Quinn would come in riding a white horse at halftime and lead a glorious comeback. (inspecta, shep)
This is when somebody named lumbergh decided to join up and pimp smack you BQ homos back into your mommas basements.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
Is it possible that many of us, while certainly enjoying the ride, knew Anderson's play was merely a mirage?
Seems those folks were proven correct.
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@inspecta said:
Wow, resorting to outright lies. I didn't take the "DA sucks" stance until after the 2nd Cincy game. Me along with the rest of the board.I hate to have to explain history over and over but here goes.
There were two groups of people in 2007. Those who wanted Charlie Frye to start and those who wanted Brady Quinn to start.
Both groups agreed that Anderson should get cut. Tony Grossi predicted that Anderson would be cut prior to week 1.
Ken Dorsey was their favored choice for the #3. Something about him being very intelligent and coach-like (probably because he looks like an accountant)
When Frye got a one way ticket to Seattle, the Frye fans converted to Quinn fans.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
The consensus was that the change would take place no later than the bye week 7.
However some especially overzealous Quinn fans made weekly proclimations that Anderson would put the team in a 3 TD hole by halftime and Quinn would come in riding a white horse at halftime and lead a glorious comeback. (inspecta, shep)
This is when somebody named lumbergh decided to join up and pimp smack you BQ homos back into your mommas basements.
I hate to have to explain history over and over but here goes.
There were two groups of people in 2007. Those who wanted Charlie Frye to start and those who wanted Brady Quinn to start.
Both groups agreed that Anderson should get cut. Tony Grossi predicted that Anderson would be cut prior to week 1.
Ken Dorsey was their favored choice for the #3. Something about him being very intelligent and coach-like (probably because he looks like an accountant)
When Frye got a one way ticket to Seattle, the Frye fans converted to Quinn fans.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
The consensus was that the change would take place no later than the bye week 7.
However some especially overzealous Quinn fans made weekly proclimations that Anderson would put the team in a 3 TD hole by halftime and Quinn would come in riding a white horse at halftime and lead a glorious comeback. (inspecta, shep)
This is when somebody named lumbergh decided to join up and pimp smack you BQ homos back into your mommas basements.
LOL ... Lum's right. No one ever gave DA a chance. Only thing missing from the above truth, is how DA saved Crennels & Savages jobs, making even those losers look good for a period of time.
Quinn has nice biceps though and one day, he too may accomplish something.
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I agree. Even though Stan's ass is sore from yesterday, I PM'd him with the idea that we give JJ, Alo, Shep, Ytown and DesertDawg their own forum.
That way we could all just sit back and "ooh and aahh" over their wonderful and brilliant takes agreeing with one another......maybe even snap one off while reading it.
Haven't heard back yet from Satn, but he may have went on another sabbatical. Maybe Zombo has some ideas.
Nah, not those other fellas, theyre great no lie, but not on that level.
Youve been getting better lately, so be nice (i cant tell if your being bad sarcastic, or good sarcastic), I'd hate to see you relapse Riffer
I still dont understand why so many people are reluctant to give Quinn time? Is it because most of you are older and dont have much time left? Are you impatient? I repeatedlt bring up the Eli Manning situation and it doesnt seem to soak in. zombo has dodged that one quite effectivel
Nah, not those other fellas, theyre great no lie, but not on that level.
Youve been getting better lately, so be nice (i cant tell if your being bad sarcastic, or good sarcastic), I'd hate to see you relapse Riffer
I still dont understand why so many people are reluctant to give Quinn time? Is it because most of you are older and dont have much time left? Are you impatient? I repeatedlt bring up the Eli Manning situation and it doesnt seem to soak in. zombo has dodged that one quite effectivel
Eli to me is always a bad example. Because one could really argue that if going by Eli, CLE should have given DA another year (although Eli did show a bit more growth than DA).
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I hate to have to explain history over and over but here goes.
There were two groups of people in 2007. Those who wanted Charlie Frye to start and those who wanted Brady Quinn to start.
Both groups agreed that Anderson should get cut. Tony Grossi predicted that Anderson would be cut prior to week 1.
Ken Dorsey was their favored choice for the #3. Something about him being very intelligent and coach-like (probably because he looks like an accountant)
When Frye got a one way ticket to Seattle, the Frye fans converted to Quinn fans.
After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
The consensus was that the change would take place no later than the bye week 7.
However some especially overzealous Quinn fans made weekly proclimations that Anderson would put the team in a 3 TD hole by halftime and Quinn would come in riding a white horse at halftime and lead a glorious comeback. (inspecta, shep)
This is when somebody named lumbergh decided to join up and pimp smack you BQ homos back into your mommas basements.
LOL ... Lum's right. No one ever gave DA a chance. Only thing missing from the above truth, is how DA saved Crennels & Savages jobs, making even those losers look good for a period of time.
Quinn has nice biceps though and one day, he too may accomplish something.
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Lums is my hero!
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After Anderson tied the franchise record for TD passes in a game and was NFL player of the week, the hot topic was when would Quinn replace Anderson, week 3 or week 4?
Is it possible that many of us, while certainly enjoying the ride, knew Anderson's play was merely a mirage?
Seems those folks were proven correct.
mz. said:
Is it possible that many of us, while certainly enjoying the ride, knew Anderson's play was merely a mirage?Seems those folks were proven correct.
A mirage? The guy saved that season. After Charlie Frye imploded in the first half of game #1, the season was over. DA at least gave us a good run, even if for a handful of games.
The Miarge so far has been Quinn ... a mirage by definition is an 'optical phenomenon', but once get up upon it, there's nothing there. What's the guy done?
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