RB 2023
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Still unsigned
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Still unsigned
Still unsigned
If that's the case I wish the browns would pick him up but then ... Who do I want to give up...?
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I'm not one to be anyone's white knight, but in Nickers defense, I could have even sworn that Kareem was signed.
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I'm not one to be anyone's white knight, but in Nickers defense, I could have even sworn that Kareem was signed.
I'm not one to be anyone's white knight, but in Nickers defense, I could have even sworn that Kareem was signed.
when i put up info I at least fact check ( you know look up more than one source from a website i had never heard of) and it was also on espn fox
sports and even on local radio that he left with out signing. so sorry i was a bit hard on nickers(maybe he bumped his head,I told him about wearing his helmet) but yes mis information is the one thing that really pisses me off
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you could fix up the media source and this still applies.
“'If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.” Mark Twain -
Still unsigned
Still unsigned
I read the article until they made it pretty clear that there ain't no way he's coming back to the Browns.
The Browns felt that he lost some speed...but I watched the games last year and it was uncanny...every time he came in the game and got the ball it was like the OL forgot how to block. There were always guys all around him with nowhere to run. That's what I saw last year. I'd betchya that he's better than Ford. But Ford was brought in to replace Hunt...so that's the way it's gonna stay.
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So, any change in thinking after the Eagles game? Hall and Wilkins got to carry the ball a few times. They seem to have some burst to them....
So, any change in thinking after the Eagles game? Hall and Wilkins got to carry the ball a few times. They seem to have some burst to them....
Any real value Hall brings will be on special teams. I don't think anybody will sign him if we put him on waivers, so we do that and bring him back to the practice squad.
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Everybody after Chubb is replaceable and likely not highly sought after…especially looking at some of the other RB rooms (like the Eagles).
Wilkins I don’t know how you can assess he carried the ball and limped off the field
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The Cleveland Browns hosted running back Kylin Hill for a workout on Wednesday as the club prepares for its final game of the preseason on Saturday against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Originally a seventh-round selection by the Green Bay Packers in the 2021 NFL Draft, Hill only appeared in 10 games with the Packers before being released in November of last season.
------Obviously, the team isn't overly impressed with their options for the #3 RB. (I consider Felton a WR / gadget RB)
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Everybody after Chubb is replaceable and likely not highly sought after…especially looking at some of the other RB rooms (like the Eagles).
Wilkins I don’t know how you can assess he carried the ball and limped off the field
Everybody after Chubb is replaceable and likely not highly sought after…especially looking at some of the other RB rooms (like the Eagles).
Wilkins I don’t know how you can assess he carried the ball and limped off the field
gonna wait till after cut down next tuesday
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Everybody after Chubb is replaceable and likely not highly sought after…especially looking at some of the other RB rooms (like the Eagles).
Wilkins I don’t know how you can assess he carried the ball and limped off the field
gonna wait till after cut down next tuesday
gonna wait till after cut down next tuesday
Yep.
There are always some good backs who get cut. Older vets who teams don't want to pay. Young guys they hope to bring back to the PS.
As in any season, those last 2-3-4 slots on the roster remain pretty fluid the first few weeks after cut downs.
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D'Ernest Johnson, Jacksonville Jaguars
Mandatory Credit: David Reginek-USA TODAY Sports
Could a reunion be in progress?
The Jacksonville Jaguars signed former Thursday Night Football hero D’Ernest Johnson this offseason in free agency after he spent four seasons in Cleveland. However, they then drafted Tank Bigsby out of Auburn in the 2023 NFL draft, and Johnson is now listed as the fourth back on the depth chart in Jacksonville.
If Johnson gets the ax from the Jaguars, the Browns must be all over a reunion as he would be the easy money RB3 on their roster.
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The Cleveland Browns and New England Patriots have agreed to the following trade.
Browns receive: RB Pierre Strong Jr. Patriots receive: T Tyrone Wheatley Jr.
Strong (5-11, 215) is in his second NFL season out of South Dakota State. Originally selected by the Patriots in the fourth round of the 2022 draft, Strong appeared in 15 games as a rookie. He rushed for 100 yards on 10 carries with a touchdown and added seven receptions for 42 yards.
Wheatley spent the 2022 season on the Browns' practice squad.
*All NFL trades are pending a physical.
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OK, so we now know that the Browns were not satisfied with their RB #3, as some of us were speculating.
Wilkins and Hall were not the answer...and poor John Kelly, ever the brides maid. And it makes me wonder how secure Felton is. At what point do you decide that there's a WR that you value more than him...and a RB that you value more than him?
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...to Nick Chubb: I read a little while back that he said that he was going to be involved catching more passes for the offense this season. Although this sounds good...and Nick can catch the ball...he doesn't always run the best routes. Sometimes his little flair routes are supposed to be flattened out more towards the sideline but he's drifting the route up field...and then the QB turns and throws the ball to the outside and he's not in position to catch it.
I live Chubb to death, but IMO route running is the weakest part of his game...along with the occasional taking his eye off the ball in anticipation of taking off with it. Perhaps he/they have worked on it. It's certainly good for the D to understand that the RB can run with it or go out for a pass and catch it at ANY time.
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Good breakdown from Jake Burns here on Pierre Strong jr.
Was not aware that Strong had KO return ability. After Grant, We can breathe a whole lot easier not sending Ford out there on Kick Returns
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...to Nick Chubb: I read a little while back that he said that he was going to be involved catching more passes for the offense this season. Although this sounds good...and Nick can catch the ball...he doesn't always run the best routes. Sometimes his little flair routes are supposed to be flattened out more towards the sideline but he's drifting the route up field...and then the QB turns and throws the ball to the outside and he's not in position to catch it.
I live Chubb to death, but IMO route running is the weakest part of his game...along with the occasional taking his eye off the ball in anticipation of taking off with it. Perhaps he/they have worked on it. It's certainly good for the D to understand that the RB can run with it or go out for a pass and catch it at ANY time.
...to Nick Chubb: I read a little while back that he said that he was going to be involved catching more passes for the offense this season. Although this sounds good...and Nick can catch the ball...he doesn't always run the best routes. Sometimes his little flair routes are supposed to be flattened out more towards the sideline but he's drifting the route up field...and then the QB turns and throws the ball to the outside and he's not in position to catch it.
I live Chubb to death, but IMO route running is the weakest part of his game...along with the occasional taking his eye off the ball in anticipation of taking off with it. Perhaps he/they have worked on it. It's certainly good for the D to understand that the RB can run with it or go out for a pass and catch it at ANY time.
Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
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...to Nick Chubb: I read a little while back that he said that he was going to be involved catching more passes for the offense this season. Although this sounds good...and Nick can catch the ball...he doesn't always run the best routes. Sometimes his little flair routes are supposed to be flattened out more towards the sideline but he's drifting the route up field...and then the QB turns and throws the ball to the outside and he's not in position to catch it.
I live Chubb to death, but IMO route running is the weakest part of his game...along with the occasional taking his eye off the ball in anticipation of taking off with it. Perhaps he/they have worked on it. It's certainly good for the D to understand that the RB can run with it or go out for a pass and catch it at ANY time.
Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
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Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
Watson can also help to solve those woes by being a QB that forces lighter box counts.
Most of the screen game from the coaching staff has been designed around facing 8 man fronts. Getting that much traffic from tackle to tackle tends to limit said screen game or make life significantly more difficult. Stef and Co haven't been any form of outstanding in the implementation of tunnel screens and designs that exploit the perimeter. Something that absolutely need to build on as the season progresses. So what we've seen the last few years is, IMHO, quite impressive.
Back to Watson - he can be the QB that naturally opens things up for the screen game by being a consistent down field passer (especially at and outside the numbers) which would force defenses to give that +1 to our offense.
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Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
I agree about last year so I don't think we're disagreeing at all on this. I'm not as big of a fan of the screen pass as I am the swing pass hitting the RB in stride on his way to a vacated flat outside. You gotta make em pay for blitzing; and that'll do it my opinion. You can give an option B w/a TE quickie pass to an inside hook zone.
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