RB 2023
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...to Nick Chubb: I read a little while back that he said that he was going to be involved catching more passes for the offense this season. Although this sounds good...and Nick can catch the ball...he doesn't always run the best routes. Sometimes his little flair routes are supposed to be flattened out more towards the sideline but he's drifting the route up field...and then the QB turns and throws the ball to the outside and he's not in position to catch it.
I live Chubb to death, but IMO route running is the weakest part of his game...along with the occasional taking his eye off the ball in anticipation of taking off with it. Perhaps he/they have worked on it. It's certainly good for the D to understand that the RB can run with it or go out for a pass and catch it at ANY time.
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Good breakdown from Jake Burns here on Pierre Strong jr.
Was not aware that Strong had KO return ability. After Grant, We can breathe a whole lot easier not sending Ford out there on Kick Returns
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...to Nick Chubb: I read a little while back that he said that he was going to be involved catching more passes for the offense this season. Although this sounds good...and Nick can catch the ball...he doesn't always run the best routes. Sometimes his little flair routes are supposed to be flattened out more towards the sideline but he's drifting the route up field...and then the QB turns and throws the ball to the outside and he's not in position to catch it.
I live Chubb to death, but IMO route running is the weakest part of his game...along with the occasional taking his eye off the ball in anticipation of taking off with it. Perhaps he/they have worked on it. It's certainly good for the D to understand that the RB can run with it or go out for a pass and catch it at ANY time.
...to Nick Chubb: I read a little while back that he said that he was going to be involved catching more passes for the offense this season. Although this sounds good...and Nick can catch the ball...he doesn't always run the best routes. Sometimes his little flair routes are supposed to be flattened out more towards the sideline but he's drifting the route up field...and then the QB turns and throws the ball to the outside and he's not in position to catch it.
I live Chubb to death, but IMO route running is the weakest part of his game...along with the occasional taking his eye off the ball in anticipation of taking off with it. Perhaps he/they have worked on it. It's certainly good for the D to understand that the RB can run with it or go out for a pass and catch it at ANY time.
Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
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...to Nick Chubb: I read a little while back that he said that he was going to be involved catching more passes for the offense this season. Although this sounds good...and Nick can catch the ball...he doesn't always run the best routes. Sometimes his little flair routes are supposed to be flattened out more towards the sideline but he's drifting the route up field...and then the QB turns and throws the ball to the outside and he's not in position to catch it.
I live Chubb to death, but IMO route running is the weakest part of his game...along with the occasional taking his eye off the ball in anticipation of taking off with it. Perhaps he/they have worked on it. It's certainly good for the D to understand that the RB can run with it or go out for a pass and catch it at ANY time.
Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
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Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
Watson can also help to solve those woes by being a QB that forces lighter box counts.
Most of the screen game from the coaching staff has been designed around facing 8 man fronts. Getting that much traffic from tackle to tackle tends to limit said screen game or make life significantly more difficult. Stef and Co haven't been any form of outstanding in the implementation of tunnel screens and designs that exploit the perimeter. Something that absolutely need to build on as the season progresses. So what we've seen the last few years is, IMHO, quite impressive.
Back to Watson - he can be the QB that naturally opens things up for the screen game by being a consistent down field passer (especially at and outside the numbers) which would force defenses to give that +1 to our offense.
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Good observations. I haven't been real fond of how the passing offense has been set up/designed overall. Hopefully the addition of Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason can help Stefanski improve some of this. Defenses always seem extremely well prepared for what Stefanski wants to do and how he wants to do it. We're better at running the ball, which is why Chubb carried it 302 times at 5 yards a carry and 12 TDs. That's 1 part of our offense we can establish some consistency/reliability. To compete in this passing era - we have to be way more consistent in the passing game. We guaranteed the 230 million $ contract; and sat through an 11 game suspension pretty much writing off last season. The Browns added Musgrave and other offensive assistants this offseason. They've also added some WRs. NOW, I want to see a design that can utilize Receivers/TEs/RBs far more efficiently in the passing game than we've seen. The design shouldn't make the execution of a passing game more challenging - it should create opportunities to exploit the opponent. I want to see this without feeling like I'm asking too much of a coaching staff.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
I agree about last year so I don't think we're disagreeing at all on this. I'm not as big of a fan of the screen pass as I am the swing pass hitting the RB in stride on his way to a vacated flat outside. You gotta make em pay for blitzing; and that'll do it my opinion. You can give an option B w/a TE quickie pass to an inside hook zone.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
I agree about last year so I don't think we're disagreeing at all on this. I'm not as big of a fan of the screen pass as I am the swing pass hitting the RB in stride on his way to a vacated flat outside. You gotta make em pay for blitzing; and that'll do it my opinion. You can give an option B w/a TE quickie pass to an inside hook zone.
I agree about last year so I don't think we're disagreeing at all on this. I'm not as big of a fan of the screen pass as I am the swing pass hitting the RB in stride on his way to a vacated flat outside. You gotta make em pay for blitzing; and that'll do it my opinion. You can give an option B w/a TE quickie pass to an inside hook zone.
I remember Chubb taking a pass like that to the house in Pittsburgh in the playoff game.
Can't wait for Sept 10.
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I agree about last year so I don't think we're disagreeing at all on this. I'm not as big of a fan of the screen pass as I am the swing pass hitting the RB in stride on his way to a vacated flat outside. You gotta make em pay for blitzing; and that'll do it my opinion. You can give an option B w/a TE quickie pass to an inside hook zone.
I remember Chubb taking a pass like that to the house in Pittsburgh in the playoff game.
Can't wait for Sept 10.
I remember Chubb taking a pass like that to the house in Pittsburgh in the playoff game.
Can't wait for Sept 10.
When Chubbs receiving ability was mentioned this is the exact play that came to mind. He’s great in the open field and has vision to see the blocks that are setting up in front of him.
I am not asking him to flex out and run routes and that is where perhaps we all get confused that he isn’t a receiving type back.
But I remember this one too bad throw by Baker
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While I won't disagree entirely, I think last year was kind of an aberration.
Brissett was competent, but it became very clear early on he simply couldn't throw an effective screen pass. So Chubb & Hunt didn't get many opportunities.
Watson could solve those woes. Here's hoping he's the best QB since Kosar.
I agree about last year so I don't think we're disagreeing at all on this. I'm not as big of a fan of the screen pass as I am the swing pass hitting the RB in stride on his way to a vacated flat outside. You gotta make em pay for blitzing; and that'll do it my opinion. You can give an option B w/a TE quickie pass to an inside hook zone.
I agree about last year so I don't think we're disagreeing at all on this. I'm not as big of a fan of the screen pass as I am the swing pass hitting the RB in stride on his way to a vacated flat outside. You gotta make em pay for blitzing; and that'll do it my opinion. You can give an option B w/a TE quickie pass to an inside hook zone.
I'm a huge fan of wheel routes.. When executed properly they can be a deadly thing of beauty...
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All of this depends on Chubbs ability to catch the ball and run routes.
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