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  • Cooper downgraded to questionable after tweaking his groin in practice.

  • @browns149 said:

    Here we get Bungles or Stoolers.  Browns are 3rd.  

    Curious, I looked up where Letart was in WV. 

    Damn, you are almost dead between Cincinnati (165 miles) and Pittsburgh (207 miles), with Cleveland (221 miles) directly north of you. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Curious, I looked up where Letart was in WV. 

    Damn, you are almost dead between Cincinnati (165 miles) and Pittsburgh (207 miles), with Cleveland (221 miles) directly north of you. 

    It’s mostly stoolers fans though

  • Ravens take the opening kickoff and march to a TD, taking half the first quarter with them. 

    7-0 Baltimore. 

  • This is absolutely brilliant.Man how much I love Bernie haha:

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  • OBJ on the sideline with an injury.

    That's a shocker.

    Ravens up 20-17 at the beginning of the 4th, driving, just got into the redzone. 

  • Cincinnati 0-2 to start the season, Baltimore 2-0.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Monday, September 18

    New Orleans Saints (-2.5) at Carolina Panthers
    ★ Cleveland Browns (-1.5) at Pittsburgh Steelers ★  at 8:15 pm.  <-- a close game ?   Are they that close  ?

    ▪︎~~~~~~~     ?    ▪︎~~~~~~~▪︎

    And on Sunday  September  17.  (FYI)

    ★ Baltimore Ravens at Cincinnati Bengals (-3.5) 

    Browns -1.5, well, IIRC the 49ers were favored by 2. We know how that turned out. 

    Regarding the Bungle- Ratbird game, don't care who wins, but the Browns have to win also. No letdown guys. 

    @hoorta said:

    Browns -1.5, well, IIRC the 49ers were favored by 2. We know how that turned out. 

    Regarding the Bungle- Ratbird game, don't care who wins, but the Browns have to win also. No letdown guys. 

    See below.....

    @dutch-oven said:

    Ravens take the opening kickoff and march to a TD, taking half the first quarter with them. 

    7-0 Baltimore. 

    From a purely Browns POV, it would have been better if the Bungles had won....  Bungles 1-1, Ratbirds 1-1 both with division losses. Cinci showed some signs of life, but not enough. Minus the 80+ yard punt return TD, they weren't showing much. 

    If jiggins is worried about Watson, you should have seen some of the hits Jackson was taking when he ran the ball.  He won't last the season running reckless like that. Our old pal Clowney had quite a game. 

    It will be nice for the next week here in SW Ohio with Bungle fans back under their rocks though. 

    Browns had just better win tomorrow night.  

  • @hoorta said:

    Browns -1.5, well, IIRC the 49ers were favored by 2. We know how that turned out. 

    Regarding the Bungle- Ratbird game, don't care who wins, but the Browns have to win also. No letdown guys. 

    See below.....

    @dutch-oven said:

    Ravens take the opening kickoff and march to a TD, taking half the first quarter with them. 

    7-0 Baltimore. 

    From a purely Browns POV, it would have been better if the Bungles had won....  Bungles 1-1, Ratbirds 1-1 both with division losses. Cinci showed some signs of life, but not enough. Minus the 80+ yard punt return TD, they weren't showing much. 

    If jiggins is worried about Watson, you should have seen some of the hits Jackson was taking when he ran the ball.  He won't last the season running reckless like that. Our old pal Clowney had quite a game. 

    It will be nice for the next week here in SW Ohio with Bungle fans back under their rocks though. 

    Browns had just better win tomorrow night.  

    @hoorta said:

    See below.....

    From a purely Browns POV, it would have been better if the Bungles had won....  Bungles 1-1, Ratbirds 1-1 both with division losses. Cinci showed some signs of life, but not enough. Minus the 80+ yard punt return TD, they weren't showing much. 

    If jiggins is worried about Watson, you should have seen some of the hits Jackson was taking when he ran the ball.  He won't last the season running reckless like that. Our old pal Clowney had quite a game. 

    It will be nice for the next week here in SW Ohio with Bungle fans back under their rocks though. 

    Browns had just better win tomorrow night.  

    That is true, a Bengals win today could have meant the Browns would be sitting in first place come midnight tomorrow night. 

    Still, from an entertainment POV, it will be interesting to see if the Bengals can overcome another slow start. The season being 17 games now makes it easier, it will be real easy when they eventually make it a 18 game schedule. (I loathe the idea)

  • Last year I kind of went rogue and picked Dallas as my choice to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Even as I wrote it, I was like "Really, Dutch?" 

    It wouldn't be a horrible pick this season. Philadelphia, San Francisco and Dallas are looking like the cream of the NFC crop. 

    (I already hate my Buffalo pick in the AFC. I remember thinking after their playoff loss last winter that their window of Super Bowl contention might be over... then I pick them the next year) ?

  • Russell Wilson just completed a Hail Mary with no time left, but couldn't get the 2pt conversion to lose 35-33.

  • Some really good games today.  Lots of flipping back and forth.

    Bengals (Chase) specifically something is up.  His routes were lackluster. On the other side one of my favorite weapons coming out of this draft Zay Flowers going to be tough matchup for us in the years to come.  He’s essentially what they hoped they would get out of Marquis Brown  

    Jets are a .500 team at best with Wilson. I don’t think we have to worry about them (playoff wise).

    Giants second half was impressive.  One of the best halves of football offensively.  They got it going with Danny Dimes feet.

    Bijan Robinson.  Going to get couple eye rolls but I think he’s the best back in football.  Elite wiggle and fast.  That team has some weapons.  Some are very underutilized. 

    Lions aren’t quite there yet. Geno Smith has some weapons but he’s still vulnerable in my opinion.  Lots of great WRs on the field in that game. 

    The Cowboys (my sleeper) are going to be a tough out.

    Next week.  Titans had some problems protecting Tannehill.  Going to be Henry and lots of deep play action shots.  The pressure needs to get there and we need to put our big boy pants on and get Henry moving East and west behind the line of scrimmage.  Their defense-  they make an offense play ugly.  Going to be tough game next week for us.  Chargers earned everything they got. 
     

    Our next four…no finesse about them…Steelers, Titans, Ravens, Niners.  
     

  • @hoorta said:

    Browns -1.5, well, IIRC the 49ers were favored by 2. We know how that turned out. 

    Regarding the Bungle- Ratbird game, don't care who wins, but the Browns have to win also. No letdown guys. 

    See below.....

    @dutch-oven said:

    Ravens take the opening kickoff and march to a TD, taking half the first quarter with them. 

    7-0 Baltimore. 

    From a purely Browns POV, it would have been better if the Bungles had won....  Bungles 1-1, Ratbirds 1-1 both with division losses. Cinci showed some signs of life, but not enough. Minus the 80+ yard punt return TD, they weren't showing much. 

    If jiggins is worried about Watson, you should have seen some of the hits Jackson was taking when he ran the ball.  He won't last the season running reckless like that. Our old pal Clowney had quite a game. 

    It will be nice for the next week here in SW Ohio with Bungle fans back under their rocks though. 

    Browns had just better win tomorrow night.  

    @hoorta said:

    you should have seen some of the hits Jackson was taking when he ran the ball.  He won't last the season running reckless like that.   

    Agreed !

    What was bothersome, is Lamar's O-line in pass pro, gave him a wall of protection on all 33 passing attempts. The Gal's never even recorded a 1 yard scramble sack..1 QB hit in backfield all day (never saw it)

    Lamar leading his backfield in attempts with 13 carries can't last... #8 won't make this season's final games again..  but he got his Dumb-ar money

  • Unfortunate Dobbins got injured again in week1.. But just FYI, Dobbins' injury was on a natural grass field.  Per the Sutterer injury channel, there is a paper showing that the actual rate of injury on turf vs natural grass is the same [the stats phrase is "not different enough to be something that couldn't have happened by chance"]. The notable thing for injuries is the degree of field slipperiness.. if a foot gets stuck in the ground, the force of a hit has a greater chance of being transmitted to the body rather than dissipating in the field.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I feel your conflict. Roethlisberger was a RedHawk. 

    He was also an idiot

    @bob806 said:

    He was also an idiot

    Well sure, but when your school doesn’t exactly crank out a lotta NFL superstars, that one stung a bit. And to be fair, we didn’t know he was an idiot at the time. We’re very smart typically. And modest. 

    For the record we drafted Kellen Winslow II that year, so we arguably did draft the sleazier sleazier dude from a school called Miami. 

  • @bob806 said:

    He was also an idiot

    Well sure, but when your school doesn’t exactly crank out a lotta NFL superstars, that one stung a bit. And to be fair, we didn’t know he was an idiot at the time. We’re very smart typically. And modest. 

    For the record we drafted Kellen Winslow II that year, so we arguably did draft the sleazier sleazier dude from a school called Miami. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Well sure, but when your school doesn’t exactly crank out a lotta NFL superstars, that one stung a bit. And to be fair, we didn’t know he was an idiot at the time. We’re very smart typically. And modest. 

    For the record we drafted Kellen Winslow II that year, so we arguably did draft the sleazier sleazier dude from a school called Miami. 

    That is almost impressive, if you think about it.

    We passed on the sleazeball from Miami U to draft the even bigger sleazeball from the U of Miami. 

  • @bob806 said:

    He was also an idiot

    Well sure, but when your school doesn’t exactly crank out a lotta NFL superstars, that one stung a bit. And to be fair, we didn’t know he was an idiot at the time. We’re very smart typically. And modest. 

    For the record we drafted Kellen Winslow II that year, so we arguably did draft the sleazier sleazier dude from a school called Miami. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Well sure, but when your school doesn’t exactly crank out a lotta NFL superstars, that one stung a bit. And to be fair, we didn’t know he was an idiot at the time. We’re very smart typically. And modest. 

    For the record we drafted Kellen Winslow II that year, so we arguably did draft the sleazier sleazier dude from a school called Miami. 

    I knew he was an idiot before the draft lol. He grew up in Findlay, Oh and was a 49ers fan. Red flag right there.

    Can't stand him, but he was a good QB. 

    Amazing a QB can play 18 years & never get any sponsor gigs. That says a lot.

  • The blocked kick in the SNF game…wow.  That was special 

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Well sure, but when your school doesn’t exactly crank out a lotta NFL superstars, that one stung a bit. And to be fair, we didn’t know he was an idiot at the time. We’re very smart typically. And modest. 

    For the record we drafted Kellen Winslow II that year, so we arguably did draft the sleazier sleazier dude from a school called Miami. 

    I knew he was an idiot before the draft lol. He grew up in Findlay, Oh and was a 49ers fan. Red flag right there.

    Can't stand him, but he was a good QB. 

    Amazing a QB can play 18 years & never get any sponsor gigs. That says a lot.

    @bob806 said:

    I knew he was an idiot before the draft lol. He grew up in Findlay, Oh and was a 49ers fan. Red flag right there.

    Can't stand him, but he was a good QB. 

    Amazing a QB can play 18 years & never get any sponsor gigs. That says a lot.

    I had a cousin in the BG area who claimed to have picked him off in a football camp of some sort!

  • The blocked kick in the SNF game…wow.  That was special 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    The blocked kick in the SNF game…wow.  That was special 

    Like, how have we never seen this before? 

  • @hoorta said:

    you should have seen some of the hits Jackson was taking when he ran the ball.  He won't last the season running reckless like that.   

    Agreed !

    What was bothersome, is Lamar's O-line in pass pro, gave him a wall of protection on all 33 passing attempts. The Gal's never even recorded a 1 yard scramble sack..1 QB hit in backfield all day (never saw it)

    Lamar leading his backfield in attempts with 13 carries can't last... #8 won't make this season's final games again..  but he got his Dumb-ar money

    @gumby73 said:

    Agreed !

    What was bothersome, is Lamar's O-line in pass pro, gave him a wall of protection on all 33 passing attempts. The Gal's never even recorded a 1 yard scramble sack..1 QB hit in backfield all day (never saw it)

    Lamar leading his backfield in attempts with 13 carries can't last... #8 won't make this season's final games again..  but he got his Dumb-ar money

    I'll defer to tia on this one, but Lamar's deep ball accuracy leaves something to be desired most of the time.  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    The blocked kick in the SNF game…wow.  That was special 

    It's going to be on every special coordinator's tape tomorrow. I'm surprised no one has tried that gambit yet.  Copycat league.