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Out of curiosity, because I think Stefanski will be gone at the end of the season, I looked up who was Deshaun Watson's offensive coordinator in Houston. In his last two seasons with the Texans, it was Tim Kelly.
Kelly is Tennessee's OC now. The Browns play the Titans this coming Sunday.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
That this topic raises your ire so much pretty much illuminates the fact that it is also bothering you that Baker Mayfield is doing better than DeShaun Watson. Now go clean your room.
It bothers me not at all that Mayfield had a couple good games. Do you see me- or anyone else here- pining away about the couple of good games any other insert QB Name here games that they had to start the season?
Other way around Tom.... What DOES bother me... The Baker fan boys er Cult- are just SO F**king upset thinking (falsely IMHO) that all Baker needed was just another season or two and he was going to turn into the next Joe Montana. Plus, they're not going to let anyone here forget that (currently) he's playing 1\2 decently either. And that nasty mean Browns Front Office didn't know what they were doing when they shipped him off. ?
Well, boo-hoo go buy your Mayfield Buccaneers jersey guys if it will make you feel better- he's not coming back.
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There is a reason Baker Mayfield isn't here. They either thought he wouldn't be the same after his injury and/or thought he had reached his ceiling and wanted to move on. Regardless he is gone. End of story.
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There is a reason Baker Mayfield isn't here. They either thought he wouldn't be the same after his injury and/or thought he had reached his ceiling and wanted to move on. Regardless he is gone. End of story.
There is a reason Baker Mayfield isn't here. They either thought he wouldn't be the same after his injury and/or thought he had reached his ceiling and wanted to move on. Regardless he is gone. End of story.
There could be other reasons. I have heard that he wouldn’t listen to the coaches, and would change plays without permission
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Nobodyis forcing you to join this conversation.
You remind me of the woman at the movie theater who complains that the man next to her is masturbating.
When she denies her friend's suggestion that they move, and is asked why she can't move....she replies....."Because he is using my hand".
Nobody is forcing you to use your hand, Sparky. Again, go clean your room.
Got to save this Ghoolie classic Tom. Prolly was in a porno theater to boot. LOL!?
PS-almost spit grape juice all over wifey's new living room carpet.?
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Larry, I think that you and a few others are still missing my point.
You guys are engaging me in an argument about whether or not the Browns fucked up releasing Baker Mayfield.
My point is one of free football speech and not Baker Mayfield.
One poster replied to me and said, "Baker is gone, end of story".
Well, for him, perhaps you, and for many others it is perfectly fine to consider the issue closed. But people of that ilk don't get to tell others that the issue is closed.
In my prime Ghoolie days, upon reading your post, specifically where you said, "What DOES bother me", I would have jumped in, pulled your chain and pissed off 1/2 the board.
My "Ghoolie" act was not based on me being spiteful, or even childish. Instead it was based in my amazement that people could get so emotional over words on a message board.
For those who say that Mayfield is a moot point....you STILL miss the point. Remember, one of the joys for law students is moot court.
A big part of the fun of TBB is the debate....moot or not. For fuck's sake, if we want to consider moot things, just behold Fantasy Football. But hey, it is fun for people.
Here is my stance. If someone enjoys the debate of Browns FO versus Baker Mayfield, why attack them with "fuck you" and "go buy a Buccaneers jersey?
Larry, my buddy, people who post things like this are not trolls. They are simply Browns fans who believe things that others do not.
To go to war with our own over differing opinions is beneath us.
I understand the disagreement by many, and dislike for BM. I for one don't like him.
However, we can bitch all we want but like it or not there are a lot of talking heads who are still watching this pot simmer and who will make this a national story should Baker soar, and Watson sink.
Oh, I understand how this could raise a pulse rate or two, but the reality is that you and I don't get to decide when the conversation is over, and regardless of what we want, this story still has potential wings.
C'mon Larry, if Watson busts at 1/4 $billion, and Baker goes to the playoffs, these TV assholes will jump on this story and again, our franchise will be ridiculed.
I don't like this one bit, but I think it is a bit over the top to attack those who post things we don't like or agree with.
I'm not reading all of that. Cry babies will cry when they don't get their way or people disagree with their view, then write incredibly long posts to make themselves sound smart.
Wahhhhhhhh!
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Nobodyis forcing you to join this conversation.
You remind me of the woman at the movie theater who complains that the man next to her is masturbating.
When she denies her friend's suggestion that they move, and is asked why she can't move....she replies....."Because he is using my hand".
Nobody is forcing you to use your hand, Sparky. Again, go clean your room.
Got to save this Ghoolie classic Tom. Prolly was in a porno theater to boot. LOL!?
PS-almost spit grape juice all over wifey's new living room carpet.?
Got to save this Ghoolie classic Tom. Prolly was in a porno theater to boot. LOL!?
PS-almost spit grape juice all over wifey's new living room carpet.?
We have to pin that post to the top of the forums. Ghoolie talking about jacking off at a movie theater. He's obviously done it himself because who even thinks about that.
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Is he remebering his massages?
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Like TO said many moons ago..."that's my quarterback"
Not sure he can turn this around. His brain isn't processing the reads fast enough. Is that something he can get back?
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Like TO said many moons ago..."that's my quarterback"
Not sure he can turn this around. His brain isn't processing the reads fast enough. Is that something he can get back?
Like TO said many moons ago..."that's my quarterback"
Not sure he can turn this around. His brain isn't processing the reads fast enough. Is that something he can get back?
Nope... He's done...
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Oh, I understand how this could raise a pulse rate or two, but the reality is that you and I don't get to decide when the conversation is over, and regardless of what we want, this story still has potential wings.
C'mon Larry, if Watson busts at 1/4 $billion, and Baker goes to the playoffs, these TV assholes will jump on this story and again, our franchise will be ridiculed.
I don't like this one bit, but I think it is a bit over the top to attack those who post things we don't like or agree with.
1) Fair enough. If the Baker fan club is creaming their pants over a couple good games Mayfield had, you have to know the first really bad game Baker has (and he is going to have one, or more than one) they're going to get paid back in spades.
2) As to the Browns franchise being ridiculed- it already has been ridiculed, and is currently being ridiculed. As I mentioned somewhere Colin Cowherd went on a 10 minute diatribe yesterday about what a shitilly run and dumb ass player acquisition (both draft and trades) the Browns have been. And to a point- he's 100% correct. Unless Watson improves his play by orders of magnitude, and reverts to the pro bowl form he demonstrated with the Texans, it's going to go down as one of the worst- if not THE worst trade in NFL history.
3) I do still have Mod powers, though I gave up talking football here for months (I had my reasons). In that vein, my personal POV is harping and carping about a player who hasn't been on the Browns roster since 2021 is pretty much off topic. My gosh- let's be objective. Mayfield stunk last year playing for Carolina and the Rams. His base contract with the Buccaneers is $1.7 million (there are incentives) that's not even what decent backup QBs in the league are getting paid. It would be like me whining that no team has picked up Jarvis Landry for 2023.
So sure, I'll let the Baker fan club keep on loving their guy. Not very rational though IMHO. They're not going to quit until he's out of the league. Which may not be for a very long time. His starting gig with Tampa is probably his last, but he still could have a very long NFL career as a backup. Our old pal Colt McCoy is still hanging around.
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Sad thing is I think some people want Watson to struggle just so they can say "Look! Told you it was a bad trade!' Pretty immature tbh. He is not been the best by any means, but I will keep on saying it is not all on him; Stefanski needs to take a lot of the blame also for not calling plays that align with his strengths. OL was not the best on Monday night either.
Ridiculous for people to call for DTR already smh. Not ready, and ffs we are only 2 games in also. And, do people really think he would fare any better than Watson with the dude we have calling plays? Don't really think so.
I have put before that Mayfield was overly hated by some factions here and even after, especially when I thought he was decent enough. But, he is gone now and his cult or fan club or whatever you want to call them, need to come to that realization unless they know how to build a fucking DeLorean and somehow make it where he never left.
Watson is the guy, even keep the faith that he will get it together, or don't watch the team anymore. Really is that simple. I am all for people can have opinions about the team, that's what fans do, but you would have sworn he was the worst fucking QB to every take snaps for the Browns going by some of the comments.
Does he need to play better especially with the money we are giving him? Absolutely, no argument there. Is their really any point in continuing to bash the dude and the team as a whole in the meantime? Nope.
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How exactly is he a POS friend?
Are you dense?.. Yes you are... byeee...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Sad thing is I think some people want Watson to struggle just so they can say "Look! Told you it was a bad trade!' Pretty immature tbh. He is not been the best by any means, but I will keep on saying it is not all on him; Stefanski needs to take a lot of the blame also for not calling plays that align with his strengths. OL was not the best on Monday night either.
Ridiculous for people to call for DTR already smh. Not ready, and ffs we are only 2 games in also. And, do people really think he would fare any better than Watson with the dude we have calling plays? Don't really think so.
I have put before that Mayfield was overly hated by some factions here and even after, especially when I thought he was decent enough. But, he is gone now and his cult or fan club or whatever you want to call them, need to come to that realization unless they know how to build a fucking DeLorean and somehow make it where he never left.
Watson is the guy, even keep the faith that he will get it together, or don't watch the team anymore. Really is that simple. I am all for people can have opinions about the team, that's what fans do, but you would have sworn he was the worst fucking QB to every take snaps for the Browns going by some of the comments.
Does he need to play better especially with the money we are giving him? Absolutely, no argument there. Is their really any point in continuing to bash the dude and the team as a whole in the meantime? Nope.
Sad thing is I think some people want Watson to struggle just so they can say "Look! Told you it was a bad trade!' Pretty immature tbh. He is not been the best by any means, but I will keep on saying it is not all on him; Stefanski needs to take a lot of the blame also for not calling plays that align with his strengths. OL was not the best on Monday night either.
Ridiculous for people to call for DTR already smh. Not ready, and ffs we are only 2 games in also. And, do people really think he would fare any better than Watson with the dude we have calling plays? Don't really think so.
I have put before that Mayfield was overly hated by some factions here and even after, especially when I thought he was decent enough. But, he is gone now and his cult or fan club or whatever you want to call them, need to come to that realization unless they know how to build a fucking DeLorean and somehow make it where he never left.
Watson is the guy, even keep the faith that he will get it together, or don't watch the team anymore. Really is that simple. I am all for people can have opinions about the team, that's what fans do, but you would have sworn he was the worst fucking QB to every take snaps for the Browns going by some of the comments.
Does he need to play better especially with the money we are giving him? Absolutely, no argument there. Is their really any point in continuing to bash the dude and the team as a whole in the meantime? Nope.
We traded for a washed up POS of a human being QB who has stunk to high hell and that doesn't concern you?.. You need help... And now he's gonna miss games because he is weak minded and lost his composure... Thats not a Franchise QB .. Thats a freeloading POS! Whose taking up a roster spot...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
How exactly is he a POS friend?
Are you dense?.. Yes you are... byeee...
Are you dense?.. Yes you are... byeee...
I asked you a question friend, but appreciate the insult. Anyone can be a badass on an anonymous forum. Care to answer the question?
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Sad thing is I think some people want Watson to struggle just so they can say "Look! Told you it was a bad trade!' Pretty immature tbh. He is not been the best by any means, but I will keep on saying it is not all on him; Stefanski needs to take a lot of the blame also for not calling plays that align with his strengths. OL was not the best on Monday night either.
Ridiculous for people to call for DTR already smh. Not ready, and ffs we are only 2 games in also. And, do people really think he would fare any better than Watson with the dude we have calling plays? Don't really think so.
I have put before that Mayfield was overly hated by some factions here and even after, especially when I thought he was decent enough. But, he is gone now and his cult or fan club or whatever you want to call them, need to come to that realization unless they know how to build a fucking DeLorean and somehow make it where he never left.
Watson is the guy, even keep the faith that he will get it together, or don't watch the team anymore. Really is that simple. I am all for people can have opinions about the team, that's what fans do, but you would have sworn he was the worst fucking QB to every take snaps for the Browns going by some of the comments.
Does he need to play better especially with the money we are giving him? Absolutely, no argument there. Is their really any point in continuing to bash the dude and the team as a whole in the meantime? Nope.
We traded for a washed up POS of a human being QB who has stunk to high hell and that doesn't concern you?.. You need help... And now he's gonna miss games because he is weak minded and lost his composure... Thats not a Franchise QB .. Thats a freeloading POS! Whose taking up a roster spot...
We traded for a washed up POS of a human being QB who has stunk to high hell and that doesn't concern you?.. You need help... And now he's gonna miss games because he is weak minded and lost his composure... Thats not a Franchise QB .. Thats a freeloading POS! Whose taking up a roster spot...
Never said I wasn't concerned about how he has played pal, I am just saying no point in continuing to bash the dude as we are not gonna bench him for a rookie. And we are not taking about his personal life, that has nothing to do with this.
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Watson might beat some bad teams but he's never going to beat Pittsburgh or Baltimore. Nobody with a decent defense. Oh, and no Nick Chubb. Just the Ghost of Kareem Hunt. At least there's the draft!
Oh wait. Tried to get a refund on Sunday Ticket but apparently it's nonrefundable. ?
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