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I asked you a question friend, but appreciate the insult. Anyone can be a badass on an anonymous forum. Care to answer the question?
Well if you have followed along the last 24 + months or so , You wouldn't need me to tell you.. This guy is so far gone he's washed up... He's absolute garbage and is definitely not the same guy he was in Houston.. He's Tiger woods Part Deaux!
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We will agree to disagree pal. I will keep the faith he will get his act together.
He won't... He's got $250 million reasons not to.. The Browns got raped by a selfish pervert...
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We will agree to disagree pal. I will keep the faith he will get his act together.
He won't... He's got $250 million reasons not to.. The Browns got raped by a selfish pervert...
He won't... He's got $250 million reasons not to.. The Browns got raped by a selfish pervert...
You can't 100 percent say that and I can't 100 percent say he will either. But again, all we can do is keep the faith that he will. Otherwise, what's the point of even watching the games going forward?
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He won't... He's got $250 million reasons not to.. The Browns got raped by a selfish pervert...
You can't 100 percent say that and I can't 100 percent say he will either. But again, all we can do is keep the faith that he will. Otherwise, what's the point of even watching the games going forward?
You can't 100 percent say that and I can't 100 percent say he will either. But again, all we can do is keep the faith that he will. Otherwise, what's the point of even watching the games going forward?
I'm a fan of the team.. That's reason enough to watch.. But this douche has done nothing to earn his exorbitant pay check...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Oh, I understand how this could raise a pulse rate or two, but the reality is that you and I don't get to decide when the conversation is over, and regardless of what we want, this story still has potential wings.
C'mon Larry, if Watson busts at 1/4 $billion, and Baker goes to the playoffs, these TV assholes will jump on this story and again, our franchise will be ridiculed.
I don't like this one bit, but I think it is a bit over the top to attack those who post things we don't like or agree with.
1) Fair enough. If the Baker fan club is creaming their pants over a couple good games Mayfield had, you have to know the first really bad game Baker has (and he is going to have one, or more than one) they're going to get paid back in spades.
2) As to the Browns franchise being ridiculed- it already has been ridiculed, and is currently being ridiculed. As I mentioned somewhere Colin Cowherd went on a 10 minute diatribe yesterday about what a shitilly run and dumb ass player acquisition (both draft and trades) the Browns have been. And to a point- he's 100% correct. Unless Watson improves his play by orders of magnitude, and reverts to the pro bowl form he demonstrated with the Texans, it's going to go down as one of the worst- if not THE worst trade in NFL history.
3) I do still have Mod powers, though I gave up talking football here for months (I had my reasons). In that vein, my personal POV is harping and carping about a player who hasn't been on the Browns roster since 2021 is pretty much off topic. My gosh- let's be objective. Mayfield stunk last year playing for Carolina and the Rams. His base contract with the Buccaneers is $1.7 million (there are incentives) that's not even what decent backup QBs in the league are getting paid. It would be like me whining that no team has picked up Jarvis Landry for 2023.
So sure, I'll let the Baker fan club keep on loving their guy. Not very rational though IMHO. They're not going to quit until he's out of the league. Which may not be for a very long time. His starting gig with Tampa is probably his last, but he still could have a very long NFL career as a backup. Our old pal Colt McCoy is still hanging around.
1) Fair enough. If the Baker fan club is creaming their pants over a couple good games Mayfield had, you have to know the first really bad game Baker has (and he is going to have one, or more than one) they're going to get paid back in spades.
2) As to the Browns franchise being ridiculed- it already has been ridiculed, and is currently being ridiculed. As I mentioned somewhere Colin Cowherd went on a 10 minute diatribe yesterday about what a shitilly run and dumb ass player acquisition (both draft and trades) the Browns have been. And to a point- he's 100% correct. Unless Watson improves his play by orders of magnitude, and reverts to the pro bowl form he demonstrated with the Texans, it's going to go down as one of the worst- if not THE worst trade in NFL history.
3) I do still have Mod powers, though I gave up talking football here for months (I had my reasons). In that vein, my personal POV is harping and carping about a player who hasn't been on the Browns roster since 2021 is pretty much off topic. My gosh- let's be objective. Mayfield stunk last year playing for Carolina and the Rams. His base contract with the Buccaneers is $1.7 million (there are incentives) that's not even what decent backup QBs in the league are getting paid. It would be like me whining that no team has picked up Jarvis Landry for 2023.
So sure, I'll let the Baker fan club keep on loving their guy. Not very rational though IMHO. They're not going to quit until he's out of the league. Which may not be for a very long time. His starting gig with Tampa is probably his last, but he still could have a very long NFL career as a backup. Our old pal Colt McCoy is still hanging around.
And can you believe Brian Hoyer is still playing! He's backing up Jimmy G on the Raiders.
I'm with you and it's why I post harshly against the Baker fan club here. He is now two years from the organization. It's time to move on.
If people want to bash our current QB Deshaun Watson for not living up to his contract, go ahead. Pick any of the numerous threads bashing and hating the guy. But if you want to keep harping about Baker, then go to the Tampa Bay Bucs forums or create a Baker Fan Club forum and website.
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You can't 100 percent say that and I can't 100 percent say he will either. But again, all we can do is keep the faith that he will. Otherwise, what's the point of even watching the games going forward?
I'm a fan of the team.. That's reason enough to watch.. But this douche has done nothing to earn his exorbitant pay check...
I'm a fan of the team.. That's reason enough to watch.. But this douche has done nothing to earn his exorbitant pay check...
Fair enough and I agree with the second part, he does need to start earning that money.
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DW is only making just over 2.5 M a game. What do you expect?
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I asked you a question friend, but appreciate the insult. Anyone can be a badass on an anonymous forum. Care to answer the question?
To slow,
Holds ball to long
Bad judgement...
Train wreck
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Also, the guy DW replaced...I would like to have back.
Seems luke our system sucks...maybe not the QB.
Just sayin.
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He looks slow on his feet slow in his decision-making and he carries the football like a lunch box. If he's not careful they're liable to buy him one and tell him there are potholes the fill in Cleveland.
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Also, the guy DW replaced...I would like to have back.
Seems luke our system sucks...maybe not the QB.
Just sayin.
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Also, the guy DW replaced...I would like to have back.
Seems luke our system sucks...maybe not the QB.
Just sayin.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
If I have ever read a bigger imbecile on social media, I cannot recall.
This buffoon is having an argument with himself, COMPLETELY unaware that I personally.don't like Baker Mayfield.
How does a human being come to be this obtuse?
Then stop talking about him and we move on. Keep talking about him and we argue. It's that simple moron.
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Again, this is not the topic that I was addressing.
I am addressing cancel culture. I despise it. I despise anyone who seeks to silence someone else because words anger them.
So what if some think Watson is the worst QB in our history? So what, Larry?
What gives you or anyone else the right to determine how much skepticism of Watson is permitted on this board?
Would go up to a Browns/Mayfield loving fan in a bar and tell him to stop praising Mayfield or leave the bar?
Larry, c'mon, you are better than that. Even me, Ghoolie of Christmas past is better than that.
People should feel free to come in here and post whatever they believe about the Browns. An unpopular oponion does not constitue trolling.
A lot of guys are irritated by Baker lovers. A lot of guys are irritated by Watson lovers.
Let people post. Let people debate. Let people enjoy their Browns conversations however they see fit.
The least used feature of TBB is the scroll feature.
You're not the god of these boards. You're a douchebag who always has to be the smartest guy in the room. There's always one know-it-all jerk at work or a party. You're that guy.
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I asked you a question friend, but appreciate the insult. Anyone can be a badass on an anonymous forum. Care to answer the question?
LOL please do not listen to a word nickers sez,he is a self proclaimed know it all and really just a bitter human being
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Watson might beat some bad teams but he's never going to beat Pittsburgh or Baltimore. Nobody with a decent defense. Oh, and no Nick Chubb. Just the Ghost of Kareem Hunt. At least there's the draft!
Oh wait. Tried to get a refund on Sunday Ticket but apparently it's nonrefundable. ?
Watson might beat some bad teams but he's never going to beat Pittsburgh or Baltimore. Nobody with a decent defense. Oh, and no Nick Chubb. Just the Ghost of Kareem Hunt. At least there's the draft!
Oh wait. Tried to get a refund on Sunday Ticket but apparently it's nonrefundable. ?
sucks for you man,go root for Buffalo
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There is a reason Baker Mayfield isn't here. They either thought he wouldn't be the same after his injury and/or thought he had reached his ceiling and wanted to move on. Regardless he is gone. End of story.
There is a reason Baker Mayfield isn't here. They either thought he wouldn't be the same after his injury and/or thought he had reached his ceiling and wanted to move on. Regardless he is gone. End of story.
The short attention spans around here conveniently seem to forget that in essence the Browns did what the Rams did a few years ago. Trading another #1 overall (Jared Goff) to the Lions- and couple first round and second round picks to get Matthew Stafford. Browns thought the same of Mayfield. Should you need any proof that the Browns found Mayfield's skill set lacking, I'll direct you to the TON of Tia's all 22 breakdowns with the circles and arrows showing exactly why the Browns thought Baker wasn't the guy.
@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Larry, I say this with sincere respect to you. Your position on Mayfield talk is unhealthy. Who are you, or any of us to decide what is "off topic"?
If fans want to talk about this, who has the right to cancel them and punish them?
I have never witnessed you censoring, or taking offense to the Paul Warfield trade, and that is still alive today.
This type of thing always brought out the Ghoolie in me and set me into war with some of you.
If a person is not posting hate, vulgarity or violence, what is the harm? Posting a topic that makes other mad is a TOS violation?
I just don't get it, buddy. If people want to talk about Mayfield and make philosophical comments, so what? It is still Browns talk.
Honestly, I just cannot get a grip on why comments about football piss people off. Just scroll past it.
That wasn't my post ..
Really not any harm I suppose Tom. But let me direct you to the title of this Forum THE BROWNS BOARD. I'll hijack a POV from Zombo, and earlier Stan himself- during the Brady Quinn war. Because it's The Browns Board, not the Baker Mayfield Homo Man Crush Forum.
& no, FWIW, it's NOT BROWNS talk either. Glad you brought up Paul Warfield, because Baker is only slightly more relevant to the Browns now than Paul Warfield... Or Jarvis Landry... Or Javedon Clowney... Or Jamie Gillian... Or the couple thousand other players who USED to play for the Browns. If they still want to love a guy who's on a fast track to backup QB status, then they can go on right ahead sucking his peepee. which brings me to the following...
We traded for a washed up POS of a human being QB who has stunk to high hell and that doesn't concern you?.. You need help... And now he's gonna miss games because he is weak minded and lost his composure... Thats not a Franchise QB .. Thats a freeloading POS! Whose taking up a roster spot...
Oh, I totally GET that angle of the Watson hate. There's one guy in particular (not you nickers) who's played the morality card from the get go. He has a lot of company. I hope you realize Baker isn't exactly a saint either. Regarding Watson's massage encounters- I believe in second, or third chances. So far he's behaved himself. BTW, I've yet to hear where Deshaun is going to "miss" games? Got a link for me on that one?
Yeah, there's current (and a lot of former) Browns fans hoping Watson totally flops because of his past questionable morality. The classic cutting off your nose to spite your face. ?
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You can't 100 percent say that and I can't 100 percent say he will either. But again, all we can do is keep the faith that he will. Otherwise, what's the point of even watching the games going forward?
I'm a fan of the team.. That's reason enough to watch.. But this douche has done nothing to earn his exorbitant pay check...
I'm a fan of the team.. That's reason enough to watch.. But this douche has done nothing to earn his exorbitant pay check...
The key word there is YET nickers. But you're apparently willing to give a second, third, or fourth chance to a guy who torpedoed a Browns season playing crippled, and blew dead worms playing for Carolina and the Rams last year.
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I'm a fan of the team.. That's reason enough to watch.. But this douche has done nothing to earn his exorbitant pay check...
The key word there is YET nickers. But you're apparently willing to give a second, third, or fourth chance to a guy who torpedoed a Browns season playing crippled, and blew dead worms playing for Carolina and the Rams last year.
The key word there is YET nickers. But you're apparently willing to give a second, third, or fourth chance to a guy who torpedoed a Browns season playing crippled, and blew dead worms playing for Carolina and the Rams last year.
I've always been curious to why Baker got a complete pass by most people on here regarding the fact that he showed up to his second season fat and out of shape, which helped torpedo that season also.
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