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  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'd hardly say I was a Jed 'backer'.    I'm realistic about play - his wasn't elite, it wasn't even great to above average... it was average.   And the NFL average time on snap to throw is 2.72 seconds, so Wills blocking for 3.5 is overkill.     I'm being cheeky and a bit literal, but you get my point

    https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jedrick-wills/58467

    Thank you.

    The "Jed only blocks for 3.5 seconds" Orion posts always made me chuckle. I always wondered how long he thought pass plays took to develop. ?

    But we get your point, Orion. He needs replaced. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The "Jed only blocks for 3.5 seconds" Orion posts always made me chuckle. I always wondered how long he thought pass plays took to develop. ?

    But we get your point, Orion. He needs replaced. 

    God forbid the QB moves around in the backfield to buy more time.  According to Jed's contract, the QB is on his own at that point.  🙂

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The "Jed only blocks for 3.5 seconds" Orion posts always made me chuckle. I always wondered how long he thought pass plays took to develop. ?

    But we get your point, Orion. He needs replaced. 

    God forbid the QB moves around in the backfield to buy more time.  According to Jed's contract, the QB is on his own at that point.  🙂

    @orion said:

    God forbid the QB moves around in the backfield to buy more time.  According to Jed's contract, the QB is on his own at that point.  🙂

    Jed and James need to quit playing "Ole"

  • Dagger. 

    I asked for efficiency, I got it.  

    Asked for a slow build to chemistry, I got it. 

    Watsons ball placement slowly rounding back into form. 

    27/33 289 8.8 2 0 3-26 123.4.  

    All of that vs a quality defense.

    Eyes starting in the right places.  

    Aggressive call late to Coop to bury TEN, showing trust in your QB to deliver late.

    Every thing I asked for today, I saw. 

  • Oh, right, bets. 

    Took

    - GB ML

    - Watson O 20.5 comp 

    - Raiders -2.5      

    Looking ahead to Birds -4.5 v Bucs

  • Dagger. 

    I asked for efficiency, I got it.  

    Asked for a slow build to chemistry, I got it. 

    Watsons ball placement slowly rounding back into form. 

    27/33 289 8.8 2 0 3-26 123.4.  

    All of that vs a quality defense.

    Eyes starting in the right places.  

    Aggressive call late to Coop to bury TEN, showing trust in your QB to deliver late.

    Every thing I asked for today, I saw. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Dagger. 

    I asked for efficiency, I got it.  

    Asked for a slow build to chemistry, I got it. 

    Watsons ball placement slowly rounding back into form. 

    27/33 289 8.8 2 0 3-26 123.4.  

    All of that vs a quality defense.

    Eyes starting in the right places.  

    Aggressive call late to Coop to bury TEN, showing trust in your QB to deliver late.

    Every thing I asked for today, I saw. 

    You should have asked for Selena Gomez doing a strip tease in your bedroom, silly goose. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Dagger. 

    I asked for efficiency, I got it.  

    Asked for a slow build to chemistry, I got it. 

    Watsons ball placement slowly rounding back into form. 

    27/33 289 8.8 2 0 3-26 123.4.  

    All of that vs a quality defense.

    Eyes starting in the right places.  

    Aggressive call late to Coop to bury TEN, showing trust in your QB to deliver late.

    Every thing I asked for today, I saw. 

    You should have asked for Selena Gomez doing a strip tease in your bedroom, silly goose. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    You should have asked for Selena Gomez doing a strip tease in your bedroom, silly goose. 

    Jessica Alba sort of guy, myself. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    You should have asked for Selena Gomez doing a strip tease in your bedroom, silly goose. 

    Jessica Alba sort of guy, myself. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Jessica Alba sort of guy, myself. 

    Oh dear lord, I would not have a problem with that at all.

    But she's gotta be like what... 45 or 50 now?

  • Oh you nasty guys and your imaginary hot girls.   😐   

    • ( Maybe I  could do better ? 😆 )
  • Jessica Alba, 42, left the church when she played a role of a woman with gonorrhea of the throat.. and people she thought were her friend stopped simply because of a role she played.  Side note: There was a paper showing that gargling with listerine significantly reduces the chance of catching that. The more you know.  

    She also married a guy named Cash.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Jessica Alba sort of guy, myself. 

    Oh dear lord, I would not have a problem with that at all.

    But she's gotta be like what... 45 or 50 now?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Oh dear lord, I would not have a problem with that at all.

    But she's gotta be like what... 45 or 50 now?

    What's odd, is I don't remember anyone asking you a god damn thing about dropping age numbers here ?

    @unsympathetic said:

    There was a paper showing that gargling with listerine significantly reduces the chance of catching that. The more you know.  

    "Knowing is half the battle."

    - G.I. Joe

         -  Michael Scott

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Oh dear lord, I would not have a problem with that at all.

    But she's gotta be like what... 45 or 50 now?

    What's odd, is I don't remember anyone asking you a god damn thing about dropping age numbers here ?

    @unsympathetic said:

    There was a paper showing that gargling with listerine significantly reduces the chance of catching that. The more you know.  

    "Knowing is half the battle."

    - G.I. Joe

         -  Michael Scott

    @tiamat63 said:

    What's odd, is I don't remember anyone asking you a god damn thing about dropping age numbers here ?

    I looked it up, she's only like 42. 

    I'm sure she's still lovely in all the right ways. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What's odd, is I don't remember anyone asking you a god damn thing about dropping age numbers here ?

    I looked it up, she's only like 42. 

    I'm sure she's still lovely in all the right ways. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I looked it up, she's only like 42. 

    I'm sure she's still lovely in all the right ways. 

    Maybe she had a beautiful mother ?   Eh ?   Or she just was a hot babe and took good care of herself ?    🙂

  • ~    Oh BTW this is the thread of ....  The 2023 season film studies. Thread of questions and answers. ..... For Your Information  😊

    Here to answer your questions.   I guess ( within reason of course).

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I looked it up, she's only like 42. 

    I'm sure she's still lovely in all the right ways. 

    Maybe she had a beautiful mother ?   Eh ?   Or she just was a hot babe and took good care of herself ?    🙂

    @mjp28 said:

    Maybe she had a beautiful mother ?   Eh ?   Or she just was a hot babe and took good care of herself ?    🙂

    I'm not sure what happened to her, for some reason I feel like she kind of did a Phoebe Cates and walked away from her acting career? 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What's odd, is I don't remember anyone asking you a god damn thing about dropping age numbers here ?

    I looked it up, she's only like 42. 

    I'm sure she's still lovely in all the right ways. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I looked it up, she's only like 42. 

    I'm sure she's still lovely in all the right ways. 

    A lot of babies are nice at 42.  Some more than others. 

    She's older than 42 for example. Taken a few years ago. (below) 

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    Jessica Alba sort of guy, myself. 

    Oh dear lord, I would not have a problem with that at all.

    But she's gotta be like what... 45 or 50 now?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Oh dear lord, I would not have a problem with that at all.

    But she's gotta be like what... 45 or 50 now?

    I kind of like moms all of a sudden...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I looked it up, she's only like 42. 

    I'm sure she's still lovely in all the right ways. 

    A lot of babies are nice at 42.  Some more than others. 

    She's older than 42 for example. Taken a few years ago. (below) 

    352d029635ded758d0fcd2cbcea36b32.jpg

    @mjp28 said:

    A lot of babies are nice at 42.  Some more than others. 

    She's older than 42 for example. Taken a few years ago. (below) 

    352d029635ded758d0fcd2cbcea36b32.jpg

    It was sad to hear she died earlier this year on February 15th at 82 years of age.  Raquel Welch was beautiful back in the day.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Oh dear lord, I would not have a problem with that at all.

    But she's gotta be like what... 45 or 50 now?

    I kind of like moms all of a sudden...

    @flugel said:

    I kind of like moms all of a sudden...

    Some Film study's may show ?

    At our age.. Ray's mom fruit of the month box arrives, before us old fogies can get laid again 😉

     U''Studs all have a gOOd VicTory MonDaY ! 

  • @flugel said:

    I kind of like moms all of a sudden...

    Some Film study's may show ?

    At our age.. Ray's mom fruit of the month box arrives, before us old fogies can get laid again 😉

     U''Studs all have a gOOd VicTory MonDaY ! 

    @gumby73 said:

    Some Film study's may show ?

    At our age.. Ray's mom fruit of the month box arrives, before us old fogies can get laid again 😉

     U''Studs all have a gOOd VicTory MonDaY ! 

    ?

  •  Earlier this week, I outlined a few things I saw from the Pittsburgh game and what the Browns needed to clean up.     I said 3 pillars had to improve this past weekend, in a sense they did.     The biggest of those was 'How was Watson seeing the field?'.    It was pretty clear, even from the incredibly limited broadcast view, that things were off between him and receivers.     A deeper look sort of reveal it had nothing to do with the eyes and decision making, for the majority of the time at least.   It was the chemistry and routes that needed to adhere to continuous improvement.    Starting my 2nd viewing of the Titans game, I wanted to play catch up on the previous one and highlight the evidence of a glimmer of hope. 

     I'll start off with the most painful, the game winning margin pick 6.

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     Much like most plays, it isn't JUST on one man.    Firstly, Adkins fucked this route up.  He should have carried it high, into the CB to at least back him off playing that cloud to aggressive and low.  That would have allowed for more space for Bryant to extend his route outside and shield him away from contact.        Secondly, Bryant chops his feet and squares his shoulders too much, I presume either he saw the CB, or he just flat out biffed the subtle details of this simple route.   And sometimes it is the simple stuff we tend to overlook.    Thirdly, I get DW wanting to throw with anticipation and timing, but he should have just put it on him in this case.    On the road in prime time against your oldest rival?   Need to continue to sharpen our momentary decisions.

     That said, from an X's O's, it's the correct read and throw.  You get 3 over 2 to the field, and the week hook/man defender over your #2 is a LB who is a pass rusher the majority of the time.  It's not all the dissimilar from having Zadarius or Obgo covering a TE, maybe a bit more of the former.    It's a mismatch in the passing game.   But this is still routinely easy reads per NFL standards.  Let's continue.

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     Now the timing of this throw is on DW, ball should have been out 1/2 second sooner, maybe more.  But that's all it takes at this level between a completion and not.   This is where I'll speak of timing all day.   The QB and WR's both seeing and understanding coverage, then the where, when and how they'll break the route...     If this is on time, it's a completion. If the route is a little more flat, it's a completion.

     I got back to the foundation of my passing offense though to point this out - the decision making is again, very correct.   Watson saw the MFS, the 1/3 corner and confirmed the alley defender cleared on the curl/flat.    So the eyes --> process --> understanding is not in question here.     For any QB, just ask Robert Saleh trying to drag Zach Wilson's corpse through the regular season, THAT is the most critical part for a QB.  

     Still, not all that difficult, let's graduate a couple levels.  

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     Pittsburgh's interior pass rush, combined with the abysmal play of Jed Willis and the obvious rookie play of Dawand, really let them get away with a lot of shit.   And make no mistake, Mike Tomlin had his guys playing VERY high emotionally - especially Larry Ogunjobi.   While he isn't playing bad for the Steelers at all, he whipped Teller's ass a few times that night.

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    Snag/post combo to the strength

     What's great in this slide, is that you see DW checking safeties.  Safeties will try to lie to you, but if you can locate and understand them, it's incredibly difficult to cheat as a DB.      So Watson see's a 1/2 field safety to the boundary - educated guess here, that means if you want to push the ball downfield, your other side of the formation is likely either the same concept, or a flavor built off that - such a cover 4.  Pair the 2 boundary and the 4 field together you get cover 6.    Either way, when you know you have Cooper in the slot, and he's running a post, that means you're either going to find a LB having to match him down the middle, or a safety having to do the same.    Both you feel comfortable going after with trust in your #1 target.

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    This is exactly where you see DW pretty much think just that.   He see's the field safety in vertical match on the #2... Cooper, in this case.    Mind you, this is moving from right to left and not locking eyes to any one side of the field.

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    Watson has begun his throwing motion and see's the window open with the alley defender cleared.     Downside, pass rush is breaking through.

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    DW takes just a bit of contact on his follow through, the ball ends up a bit low and outside Coops hands.   Like before, he could have squared this route off a bit, which would have held him up before the boundary safety could recover.  

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     This was that next step to the tough, intermediate level throws where I started saying "Ok, I SEE what Watson is seeing now....  and It's good math".   BUT, we just need to get the finishing details cleaned up.   I felt a strange combination between sick to my stomach about Chubb, losing, but then some grit and heart about where this team could build from.          I saved the last two for the next post...