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Cheetos is found liable for fraud in New York civil case.

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    JaxJ Jax wrote on last edited by
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    If you apply to a bank for a loan, the bank/insurance will establish a value for the property, independent of what you value it at.

    The suit was filed by the AG, not the banks, insurers or investors.

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      If you apply to a bank for a loan, the bank/insurance will establish a value for the property, independent of what you value it at.

      The suit was filed by the AG, not the banks, insurers or investors.

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      cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by cccjwh
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      @jax said:

      If you apply to a bank for a loan, the bank/insurance will establish a value for the property, independent of what you value it at.

      The suit was filed by the AG, not the banks, insurers or investors.

      Sorry the court disagrees with your talking point. Your point is actually debunked by the judge in the ruling, including the references to the laws Cheetos broken and the previous court cases that show you are wrong. But your feelings are noted.

      Standing and Capacity to Sue Defendants’ arguments that OAG has neither capacity nor standing to sue under Executive Law § 63(12), and that the disclaimers of non-party accountants Mazars insulate defendants, invoke the time-loop in the film “Groundhog Day.” This Court emphatically rejected these arguments in its preliminary injunction decision and in its dismissal decision, and the First Department affirmed both. Defendants’ contention that a different procedural posture mandates a reconsideration, or a forfiori, a reversal, is pure sophistry.

      As this Court and others have made abundantly clear, “[i]t is not disputed that the Attorney General is empowered to sue for violations of [Executive Law § 63(12)].” People v Greenberg, 21 NY3d 439, 446 (2013) (finding Executive Law § 63(12) to be broadly worded anti-fraud device); People v Ford Motor Co., 74 NY2d 495, 502 (1989) (“Executive Law § 63(12) is the procedural route by which the Attorney-General may apply to Supreme Court for an order enjoining repeated illegal or fraudulent acts”).

      “In defendants’ world: rent regulated apartments are worth the same as unregulated apartments; restricted land is worth the same as unrestricted land; restrictions can evaporate into thin air; a disclaimer by one party casting responsibility on another party exonerates the other party’s lies,” Engoron wrote.

      “That is a fantasy world, not the real world.”

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        @westside-steve said:

        As opposed to your shit which is literally nothing.

        WSS

        You mean other than all the grand jury indictments, elections results, court rulings, jury verdicts. You know where evidence has to be real. ?

        But hey, when reality doesn't meet your expectations, "the derp state did it!" - the catch all for morons.

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        @cccjwh said:

        You mean other than all the grand jury indictments, elections results, court rulings, jury verdicts. You know where evidence has to be real. ?

        But hey, when reality doesn't meet your expectations, "the derp state did it!" - the catch all for morons.

        Sorry still nothing. Just scream Cheeto again.

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          @cccjwh said:

          You mean other than all the grand jury indictments, elections results, court rulings, jury verdicts. You know where evidence has to be real. ?

          But hey, when reality doesn't meet your expectations, "the derp state did it!" - the catch all for morons.

          Sorry still nothing. Just scream Cheeto again.

          WSS

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          cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by cccjwh
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          @westside-steve said:

          Sorry still nothing. Just scream Cheeto again.

          WSS

          Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. Call it nothing all you want. You can pretend Cheetos is still president too. Cheetos doesn't have that option. ?

          https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1706773019476004882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1706773019476004882%7Ctwgr%5Ecd6bb6bd93e47f96cdc41047046075ef6101f98c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/board/105290/Contents/2024-election-189640706/?page=78M216990056

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            @westside-steve said:

            Sorry still nothing. Just scream Cheeto again.

            WSS

            Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. Call it nothing all you want. You can pretend Cheetos is still president too. Cheetos doesn't have that option. ?

            https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1706773019476004882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1706773019476004882%7Ctwgr%5Ecd6bb6bd93e47f96cdc41047046075ef6101f98c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/board/105290/Contents/2024-election-189640706/?page=78M216990056

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            @cccjwh said:

            Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. Call it nothing all you want. You can pretend Cheetos is still president too. Cheetos doesn't have that option. ?

            https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1706773019476004882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1706773019476004882%7Ctwgr%5Ecd6bb6bd93e47f96cdc41047046075ef6101f98c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/board/105290/Contents/2024-election-189640706/?page=78M216990056

            So what, who cares, big fucking deal etc etc. Look I know the opposition is corrupt and will do anything to keep the guy for running for president again frankly you're only hope is to admit that your boy Biden is a complete waste of space and replace him with Michelle obama. Otherwise Trump is the next president and pay back his mother fucker.

            WSS

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              @cccjwh said:

              Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. Call it nothing all you want. You can pretend Cheetos is still president too. Cheetos doesn't have that option. ?

              https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1706773019476004882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1706773019476004882%7Ctwgr%5Ecd6bb6bd93e47f96cdc41047046075ef6101f98c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/board/105290/Contents/2024-election-189640706/?page=78M216990056

              So what, who cares, big fucking deal etc etc. Look I know the opposition is corrupt and will do anything to keep the guy for running for president again frankly you're only hope is to admit that your boy Biden is a complete waste of space and replace him with Michelle obama. Otherwise Trump is the next president and pay back his mother fucker.

              WSS

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              cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by cccjwh
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              @westside-steve said:

              So what, who cares, big fucking deal etc etc. Look I know the opposition is corrupt and will do anything to keep the guy for running for president again frankly you're only hope is to admit that your boy Biden is a complete waste of space and replace him with Michelle obama. Otherwise Trump is the next president and pay back his mother fucker.

              WSS

              Bahahahaha. Don't get mad Steve. Cheetos is still going to be your candidate. Sorry you have to live in the real world sometimes. Don't worry you will be back in your safe place soon. You can feel all warm and content with the lies you want to believe. 

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                @westside-steve said:

                So what, who cares, big fucking deal etc etc. Look I know the opposition is corrupt and will do anything to keep the guy for running for president again frankly you're only hope is to admit that your boy Biden is a complete waste of space and replace him with Michelle obama. Otherwise Trump is the next president and pay back his mother fucker.

                WSS

                Bahahahaha. Don't get mad Steve. Cheetos is still going to be your candidate. Sorry you have to live in the real world sometimes. Don't worry you will be back in your safe place soon. You can feel all warm and content with the lies you want to believe. 

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                @cccjwh said:

                Bahahahaha. Don't get mad Steve. Cheetos is still going to be your candidate. Sorry you have to live the real world sometimes. Don't worry you will be back in your safe place soon. You can feel all warm and content with the lies you want to believe. 

                Well you are correct living in the real world does suck. Sadly Justice doesn't exist in the real world.

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                  @cccjwh said:

                  Bahahahaha. Don't get mad Steve. Cheetos is still going to be your candidate. Sorry you have to live the real world sometimes. Don't worry you will be back in your safe place soon. You can feel all warm and content with the lies you want to believe. 

                  Well you are correct living in the real world does suck. Sadly Justice doesn't exist in the real world.

                  WSS

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                  cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Well you are correct living in the real world does suck. Sadly Justice doesn't exist in the real world.

                  WSS

                  Oh, poor baby. Your feelings are noted, again.

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                    @westside-steve said:

                    Well you are correct living in the real world does suck. Sadly Justice doesn't exist in the real world.

                    WSS

                    Oh, poor baby. Your feelings are noted, again.

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                    @cccjwh said:

                    Oh, poor baby. Your feelings are noted, again.

                    Actually it's a rough choice, I would rather somebody else from the Republican Party won the election and things settle down but I have to admit I would enjoy seeing him for another 4 years with a republican majority in the House and Senate. Maybe Trey Gowdy has an attorney general.

                    One good thing about another 4 years of Biden or any other Democrat will be that the United States will get closer and closer to being a third world nation and maybe we'll qualify to get out of the EPA regulations because we're now all of a sudden an emerging Nation?

                    WSS

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                      @canton-dawg said:

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                      Ooohhh... a little whataboutism for ya...  Care to talk about George Santos? OTOH- numerous Dems want Menendez to resign. Santos from the MAGA cult? Crickets. so shove it.   

                      "What happened with George Santos?

                      In May, he was criminally charged on 13 counts; the federal indictment included charges of fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds, and making false statements (Santos pleaded not guilty to all charges)."

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                      @hoorta said:

                      Ooohhh... a little whataboutism for ya...  Care to talk about George Santos? OTOH- numerous Dems want Menendez to resign. Santos from the MAGA cult? Crickets. so shove it.   

                      "What happened with George Santos?

                      In May, he was criminally charged on 13 counts; the federal indictment included charges of fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds, and making false statements (Santos pleaded not guilty to all charges)."

                      So,  you're sticking up for a Democratic mobster?  Just admit it, you're a left wing Democrat.

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                        May be an image of 2 people and text that says 'Apparently, Granny Clampett had another son that she left behind in Kentucky'

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                            @cccjwh said:

                            Oh, poor baby. Your feelings are noted, again.

                            Actually it's a rough choice, I would rather somebody else from the Republican Party won the election and things settle down but I have to admit I would enjoy seeing him for another 4 years with a republican majority in the House and Senate. Maybe Trey Gowdy has an attorney general.

                            One good thing about another 4 years of Biden or any other Democrat will be that the United States will get closer and closer to being a third world nation and maybe we'll qualify to get out of the EPA regulations because we're now all of a sudden an emerging Nation?

                            WSS

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                            cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            Actually it's a rough choice, I would rather somebody else from the Republican Party won the election and things settle down but I have to admit I would enjoy seeing him for another 4 years with a republican majority in the House and Senate. Maybe Trey Gowdy has an attorney general.

                            One good thing about another 4 years of Biden or any other Democrat will be that the United States will get closer and closer to being a third world nation and maybe we'll qualify to get out of the EPA regulations because we're now all of a sudden an emerging Nation?

                            WSS

                            Don't you mean WWII?

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                              @canton-dawg said:

                              IMG_4882.jpeg

                              Ooohhh... a little whataboutism for ya...  Care to talk about George Santos? OTOH- numerous Dems want Menendez to resign. Santos from the MAGA cult? Crickets. so shove it.   

                              "What happened with George Santos?

                              In May, he was criminally charged on 13 counts; the federal indictment included charges of fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds, and making false statements (Santos pleaded not guilty to all charges)."

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                              @hoorta said:

                              Ooohhh... a little whataboutism for ya...  Care to talk about George Santos? OTOH- numerous Dems want Menendez to resign. Santos from the MAGA cult? Crickets. so shove it.   

                              "What happened with George Santos?

                              In May, he was criminally charged on 13 counts; the federal indictment included charges of fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds, and making false statements (Santos pleaded not guilty to all charges)."

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                              Unlikely voter block turning tide toward Trump more than ever before

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                                Bench trial still pending (thanks to Cheeto's stupid lawyer) to see how big the fine is going to be. But it looks like Cheetos won't be doing business in New York anymore. Get your checkbooks your cult leader needs more of your money. Been a good year for holding assholes accountable.

                                Judge rules Donald Trump defrauded banks, insurers while building real estate empire | AP News

                                Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling in a civil lawsuit brought by New York’s attorney general, found that the former president and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing financing.

                                Engoron ordered that some of Trump’s business licenses be rescinded as punishment, making it difficult or impossible for them to do business in New York, and said he would continue to have an independent monitor oversee the Trump Organization’s operations.

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                                @cccjwh said:

                                Bench trial still pending (thanks to Cheeto's stupid lawyer) to see how big the fine is going to be. But it looks like Cheetos won't be doing business in New York anymore. Get your checkbooks your cult leader needs more of your money. Been a good year for holding assholes accountable.

                                Judge rules Donald Trump defrauded banks, insurers while building real estate empire | AP News

                                Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling in a civil lawsuit brought by New York’s attorney general, found that the former president and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing financing.

                                Engoron ordered that some of Trump’s business licenses be rescinded as punishment, making it difficult or impossible for them to do business in New York, and said he would continue to have an independent monitor oversee the Trump Organization’s operations.

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  So what, who cares, big fucking deal etc etc. Look I know the opposition is corrupt and will do anything to keep the guy for running for president again frankly you're only hope is to admit that your boy Biden is a complete waste of space and replace him with Michelle obama. Otherwise Trump is the next president and pay back his mother fucker.

                                  WSS

                                  Bahahahaha. Don't get mad Steve. Cheetos is still going to be your candidate. Sorry you have to live in the real world sometimes. Don't worry you will be back in your safe place soon. You can feel all warm and content with the lies you want to believe. 

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                                  @cccjwh said:

                                  Bahahahaha. Don't get mad Steve. Cheetos is still going to be your candidate. Sorry you have to live in the real world sometimes. Don't worry you will be back in your safe place soon. You can feel all warm and content with the lies you want to believe. 

                                  If they really need a bunch of judges to go after one man... It tells me they 0 to begin with.. Your witchunt is a total fraud in every way... But keep swilling the Demonrat Stool juice!

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                                    Dickers usual post quality. Someday he may be able to get past the "you're a poopyhead" posts. I understand, you cult members have nothing. Cheetos is guilty, no doubt there about that. What else can you do, but cry? ? 

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                                      Dickers usual post quality. Someday he may be able to get past the "you're a poopyhead" posts. I understand, you cult members have nothing. Cheetos is guilty, no doubt there about that. What else can you do, but cry? ? 

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                                      @cccjwh said:

                                      Dickers usual post quality. Someday he may be able to get past the "you're a poopyhead" posts. I understand, you cult members have nothing. Cheetos is guilty, no doubt there about that. What else can you do, but cry? ? 

                                      Guilty based on what?.. Heresay and Lies?...  You have been bamboozled fool...

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        Actually it's a rough choice, I would rather somebody else from the Republican Party won the election and things settle down but I have to admit I would enjoy seeing him for another 4 years with a republican majority in the House and Senate. Maybe Trey Gowdy has an attorney general.

                                        One good thing about another 4 years of Biden or any other Democrat will be that the United States will get closer and closer to being a third world nation and maybe we'll qualify to get out of the EPA regulations because we're now all of a sudden an emerging Nation?

                                        WSS

                                        Don't you mean WWII?

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                                        @cccjwh said:

                                        Don't you mean WWII?

                                        Not sure what you're talking about of course I don't suppose you do either. Is there a typo somewhere where you thought that I meant something like World War ii?

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                                          @cccjwh said:

                                          Don't you mean WWII?

                                          Not sure what you're talking about of course I don't suppose you do either. Is there a typo somewhere where you thought that I meant something like World War ii?

                                          WSS

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                                          cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by cccjwh
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          Not sure what you're talking about of course I don't suppose you do either. Is there a typo somewhere where you thought that I meant something like World War ii?

                                          WSS

                                          Your cult leader said ByDon was going to get us into World War II. You see why he is afraid to do debates.

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