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Real estate experts wonder why the democratic leftwing activist judge undervalued Pres Trump's Mar-a-largo

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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    lol.

    of course that judge did. IT's what demoquack judges do. They are activist and don't give one crap about our Constitution/Bill or Rights.

    'see, judges are SUPPOSED TO RULE based on law.

    But lefty judges like this hack, decide what makes them and their leftwing cohorts happy.

    The judge says Pres Trump overvalued his property based on....how she UNDERVALUED IT.

    Like I've said elsewhere, property valuation is subjective.

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/09/27/real-estate-experts-raise-big-questions-about-judges-valuation-of-mar-a-lago-in-fraud-determination-n2164372

    Real Estate Experts Raise Big Questions About Judge's Valuation of Mar-a-Lago in Fraud Determination

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      cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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      1. Judge doesn't do the appraisal. (Palm Beach appraiser does it)

      2. Cheetos said it was worth 27 million. Well for property taxes. 1.8 billion for loans.

      3. Yeah, that is fraud.

      Trump might think Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion, but in 2020, his own company said the Palm Beach appraiser was right. That year, the county valued Mar-a-Lago at $27 million. 

      "The Petitioner agrees with the determination of the property appraiser or tax collector," a real estate broker representing Mar-a-Lago acknowledged on a form filed with the local Value Adjustment Board, and obtained by CBS News.

      Trump says Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion. Not long ago, his own company thought that was over $1.7 billion too high. - CBS News

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        1. Judge doesn't do the appraisal. (Palm Beach appraiser does it)

        2. Cheetos said it was worth 27 million. Well for property taxes. 1.8 billion for loans.

        3. Yeah, that is fraud.

        Trump might think Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion, but in 2020, his own company said the Palm Beach appraiser was right. That year, the county valued Mar-a-Lago at $27 million. 

        "The Petitioner agrees with the determination of the property appraiser or tax collector," a real estate broker representing Mar-a-Lago acknowledged on a form filed with the local Value Adjustment Board, and obtained by CBS News.

        Trump says Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion. Not long ago, his own company thought that was over $1.7 billion too high. - CBS News

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        Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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        @cccjwh said:

        1. Judge doesn't do the appraisal. (Palm Beach appraiser does it)

        2. Cheetos said it was worth 27 million. Well for property taxes. 1.8 billion for loans.

        3. Yeah, that is fraud.

        Trump might think Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion, but in 2020, his own company said the Palm Beach appraiser was right. That year, the county valued Mar-a-Lago at $27 million. 

        "The Petitioner agrees with the determination of the property appraiser or tax collector," a real estate broker representing Mar-a-Lago acknowledged on a form filed with the local Value Adjustment Board, and obtained by CBS News.

        Trump says Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion. Not long ago, his own company thought that was over $1.7 billion too high. - CBS News

        Did that hurt your feelings?

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          @cccjwh said:

          1. Judge doesn't do the appraisal. (Palm Beach appraiser does it)

          2. Cheetos said it was worth 27 million. Well for property taxes. 1.8 billion for loans.

          3. Yeah, that is fraud.

          Trump might think Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion, but in 2020, his own company said the Palm Beach appraiser was right. That year, the county valued Mar-a-Lago at $27 million. 

          "The Petitioner agrees with the determination of the property appraiser or tax collector," a real estate broker representing Mar-a-Lago acknowledged on a form filed with the local Value Adjustment Board, and obtained by CBS News.

          Trump says Mar-a-Lago is worth $1.8 billion. Not long ago, his own company thought that was over $1.7 billion too high. - CBS News

          Did that hurt your feelings?

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          cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by cccjwh
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          @canton-dawg said:

          Did that hurt your feelings?

          Why would it?

          https://twitter.com/JohnFugelsang/status/1708868120318783772

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            @canton-dawg said:

            Did that hurt your feelings?

            Why would it?

            https://twitter.com/JohnFugelsang/status/1708868120318783772

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            Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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            @cccjwh said:

            Why would it?

            Because you’re constantly whining about it.

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              @cccjwh said:

              Why would it?

              Because you’re constantly whining about it.

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              @canton-dawg said:

              Because you’re constantly whining about it.

              I'm just enjoying a corrupt narcissist being held accountable. Apparently, that hurt your feelings, so you had reply to my post. You can always keep your crying to yourself.

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                @canton-dawg said:

                Because you’re constantly whining about it.

                I'm just enjoying a corrupt narcissist being held accountable. Apparently, that hurt your feelings, so you had reply to my post. You can always keep your crying to yourself.

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                Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                @cccjwh said:

                I'm just enjoying a corrupt narcissist being held accountable. Apparently, that hurt your feelings, so you had reply to my post. You can always keep your crying to yourself.

                Sounds like Dementia Joe isn’t the only person living in another world.

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                  https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708901271707517371?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708901271707517371%7Ctwgr%5E2b0c31dcc616513e4e68825196853e58d7e079fa%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-presents-palm-beach-county-reporting-press-that/

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                    JaxJ Jax wrote on last edited by
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                    https://twitter.com/CollinsforTX/status/1708894267450528011?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708894267450528011%7Ctwgr%5E2b0c31dcc616513e4e68825196853e58d7e079fa%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-presents-palm-beach-county-reporting-press-that/

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                      JaxJ Jax wrote on last edited by
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                      https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                      Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                      Wasting our time and money.

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                        https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                        Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                        Wasting our time and money.

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                        @jax said:

                        https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                        Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                        Wasting our time and money.

                        They are making Trump spend money...they figure the more he spends now the less he has to campaign with.

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                          https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                          Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                          Wasting our time and money.

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                          cccjwhC cccjwh wrote on last edited by
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                          @jax said:

                          https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                          Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                          Wasting our time and money.

                          You are joking right. I guess you believe the 80% number from a guy who is on trial for wildly exaggerating numbers. ?

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                            Seems to me the increase looks pretty mild given the housing crisis and crushing inflation your guy has brought us. 3 years is a long time.

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                              @jax said:

                              https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                              Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                              Wasting our time and money.

                              You are joking right. I guess you believe the 80% number from a guy who is on trial for wildly exaggerating numbers. ?

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                              @cccjwh said:

                              You are joking right. I guess you believe the 80% number from a guy who is on trial for wildly exaggerating numbers. ?

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                                @jax said:

                                https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                                Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                                Wasting our time and money.

                                You are joking right. I guess you believe the 80% number from a guy who is on trial for wildly exaggerating numbers. ?

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                                @cccjwh said:

                                You are joking right. I guess you believe the 80% number from a guy who is on trial for wildly exaggerating numbers. ?

                                Confirmed, you are brainwashed.

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                                  @cccjwh said:

                                  You are joking right. I guess you believe the 80% number from a guy who is on trial for wildly exaggerating numbers. ?

                                  Confirmed, you are brainwashed.

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                                  @jax said:

                                  Confirmed, you are brainwashed.

                                  Right, because doubting a known liar is somehow wrong. But you have shown you believe everything your orange god says. I'm sure you think Cheetos's Trump Tower apartment is 30,000 sq feet too. If that is what Cheetos says it must be true. 

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                                    @jax said:

                                    Confirmed, you are brainwashed.

                                    Right, because doubting a known liar is somehow wrong. But you have shown you believe everything your orange god says. I'm sure you think Cheetos's Trump Tower apartment is 30,000 sq feet too. If that is what Cheetos says it must be true. 

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                                    @cccjwh said:

                                    Right, because doubting a known liar is somehow wrong. But you have shown you believe everything your orange god says. I'm sure you think Cheetos's Trump Tower apartment is 30,000 sq feet too. If that is what Cheetos says it must be true. 

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                                      @jax said:

                                      Confirmed, you are brainwashed.

                                      Right, because doubting a known liar is somehow wrong. But you have shown you believe everything your orange god says. I'm sure you think Cheetos's Trump Tower apartment is 30,000 sq feet too. If that is what Cheetos says it must be true. 

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                                      @cccjwh said:

                                      Right, because doubting a known liar is somehow wrong. But you have shown you believe everything your orange god says. I'm sure you think Cheetos's Trump Tower apartment is 30,000 sq feet too. If that is what Cheetos says it must be true. 

                                      Real estate insiders bewildered by judge’s $18M valuation of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago: ‘Would list at $300M’

                                      By 
                                      Mary K. Jacob
                                      Published Sep. 27, 2023, 8:23 a.m. ET

                                      There are also nearby comps.

                                      To put it in perspective, a 2-acre wooded lot at 1980 S. Ocean Blvd., just 5 minutes from Mar-a-Lago, is currently listed for $150 million. Mar-a-Lago, situated at 1100 S. Ocean Blvd., dwarfs this lot tenfold and operates as a commercial business with around 500 members as part of the golf club.

                                      Also nearby: a 2.3-acre plot of land at 1063/1071 N. Ocean Blvd., on the market for a sky-high $200 million.

                                      Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate boasts a sprawling 20 acres.

                                      Forbes had appraised the property, which is made up of 128 rooms, at approximately $160 million in 2018 following extensive renovations and its exclusive Palm Beach location on Billionaires’ Row. The property includes a 20,000-square-foot ballroom, five clay tennis courts and a sprawling waterfront pool.

                                      And in the five years since, Palm Beach properties have only increased in value.

                                      Nearby residential properties, less than half the size and lacking ocean frontage, are commanding an average price of $40 million in today’s market.

                                      There have also been very prominent local purchases.

                                      In March, Rush Limbaugh’s widow, Kathryn Adams Limbaugh, sold her husband’s longtime Palm Beach compound, on 2.7 acres, for $155 million.

                                      Real estate insiders: Trump's Mar-a-Lago worth $300M (nypost.com)

                                      The value of anything is what someone is willing to pay for it...

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                                        https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                                        Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                                        Wasting our time and money.

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                                        @jax said:

                                        https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1708951291051798741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708951291051798741%7Ctwgr%5E8b4ead85de6c9a3082d5c7e3e054e62403cb9c0a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/

                                        Tell me these crooked judges and prosecutors didn't already know about the statute of limitations, total witch hunt and political assassination.

                                        Wasting our time and money.

                                        Hey, it only took a day to show how stupid you were for believing Cheetos. ?

                                        Judge Shuts Down Trump’s Claim That He Reversed Himself on Statute of Limitations - The Messenger

                                        Donald Trump was beaming when he spoke to reporters near the end of Monday’s opening day of his civil fraud trial. He had just left the courtroom, where he’d given two thumbs up from the defense table after hearing that the judge had suddenly reversed himself on the statute of limitations.

                                        But come Tuesday, the judge began the proceedings by clarifying that the former president’s remarks to the TV cameras were not true — without explicitly mentioning Trump by name. 

                                        New York State Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron remarked from the bench just before the second day of trial that in fact his recent ruling ordering the dissolution of Trump’s business empire found the ex-president had committed fraud with each submission of a false statement of financial condition to banks and insurers. 

                                        Trump’s attorneys argue that the relevant conduct is when the loan "closed.” But Engoron reiterated in court that he rejected that theory. 

                                        "Every use of a [false] statement of financial condition in business starts the statute of limitations running again," Engoron said on Tuesday morning.

                                         

                                        Engoron noted that he understands that the defense "strongly" disagrees with this — and will appeal.

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                                          @jax said:

                                          Confirmed, you are brainwashed.

                                          Right, because doubting a known liar is somehow wrong. But you have shown you believe everything your orange god says. I'm sure you think Cheetos's Trump Tower apartment is 30,000 sq feet too. If that is what Cheetos says it must be true. 

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                                          @cccjwh said:

                                          Right, because doubting a known liar is somehow wrong. But you have shown you believe everything your orange god says. I'm sure you think Cheetos's Trump Tower apartment is 30,000 sq feet too. If that is what Cheetos says it must be true. 

                                          No need to doubt, it's a fact, 80% thrown out, what are you driveling about?

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