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  • @texasag1969 said:

    But, but, but, but................................our braintrust!??

    Admit it, you want to resign Manziel?

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Admit it, you want to resign Manziel?

    LOL! Trade a song and a dance for Kyle Allen, Aggie backup to Josh Allen in Buffalo. ? Or bring Mond back in. He's at least familiar to the team and staff.

  • It was  beautiful send-off for Miggy in the 8th inning,  very well done.   A sellout plus 1,000 today.

    Detroit 5.  Cleveland  2 top 8.   

    Now back to TBB Business  ..... where do we start ?

  • @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. We have a play calling problem. Stefanski needs to let go of play calling. 

    I know this isn't popular in the age of analytics, you have to have a head coach who can inspire players and hold players accountable on and off the field.

    These also are not Stefanski's strengths. 

    He just isn't the guy to lead a team to great things. The Browns are going to have to move on to someone else if they want to become a legit contender. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I know this isn't popular in the age of analytics, you have to have a head coach who can inspire players and hold players accountable on and off the field.

    These also are not Stefanski's strengths. 

    He just isn't the guy to lead a team to great things. The Browns are going to have to move on to someone else if they want to become a legit contender. 

    Hey Dutch,  I started watching the baseball game and actually fell asleep  ..... no kidding it was that boring to start.

    I woke up in the 5th or 6th inning. ...... and last bats for Cleveland right now.

    I actually did not feel good all afternoon. 

  • The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. We have a play calling problem. Stefanski needs to let go of play calling. 

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. We have a play calling problem. Stefanski needs to let go of play calling. 

    Shitmypantski needs total replacement.. Keep the staff.. Fire Kevvy...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I know this isn't popular in the age of analytics, you have to have a head coach who can inspire players and hold players accountable on and off the field.

    These also are not Stefanski's strengths. 

    He just isn't the guy to lead a team to great things. The Browns are going to have to move on to someone else if they want to become a legit contender. 

    Hey Dutch,  I started watching the baseball game and actually fell asleep  ..... no kidding it was that boring to start.

    I woke up in the 5th or 6th inning. ...... and last bats for Cleveland right now.

    I actually did not feel good all afternoon. 

    @mjp28 said:

    Hey Dutch,  I started watching the baseball game and actually fell asleep  ..... no kidding it was that boring to start.

    I woke up in the 5th or 6th inning. ...... and last bats for Cleveland right now.

    I actually did not feel good all afternoon. 

    You didn't miss much with either Cleveland team today....

    Hope you feel better!

  • @mjp28 said:

    Hey Dutch,  I started watching the baseball game and actually fell asleep  ..... no kidding it was that boring to start.

    I woke up in the 5th or 6th inning. ...... and last bats for Cleveland right now.

    I actually did not feel good all afternoon. 

    You didn't miss much with either Cleveland team today....

    Hope you feel better!

    @dutch-oven said:

    You didn't miss much with either Cleveland team today....

    Hope you feel better!  I  knew it would be a rough few days .... might just wait it out.

    OMG when I was pulling up the scores from ALL  of the early games it was kind of unreal.

    The AFCN is certainly up for grabs. 

    (Edir - and my left hip is awful again .... nothing really new there. )

  • I'm debating on getting the replay of the game to watch later tonight or tomorrow.   I may just watch some of the highlight shows instead. 

    They may say more.

  • Bad play calling or not, let's be honest even half decent backup QB could have done better. Robinson was absolutely terrible. Defense was ok I thought, but never gonna win with QB play like that. Hope to fuck Christ Watson is good to go after the bye week.

  • Bad play calling or not, let's be honest even half decent backup QB could have done better. Robinson was absolutely terrible. Defense was ok I thought, but never gonna win with QB play like that. Hope to fuck Christ Watson is good to go after the bye week.

    @the-junkyard-dog said:

    Bad play calling or not, let's be honest even half decent backup QB could have done better. Robinson was absolutely terrible. Defense was ok I thought, but never gonna win with QB play like that. Hope to fuck Christ Watson is good to go after the bye week.

    Wow good timing for a WEEK 5 BYE .... for once.  The season restart  is now in WEEK 6 hooray.

    Edit - and some energy restarts might be needed.

  • @the-junkyard-dog said:

    Bad play calling or not, let's be honest even half decent backup QB could have done better. Robinson was absolutely terrible. Defense was ok I thought, but never gonna win with QB play like that. Hope to fuck Christ Watson is good to go after the bye week.

    Wow good timing for a WEEK 5 BYE .... for once.  The season restart  is now in WEEK 6 hooray.

    Edit - and some energy restarts might be needed.

    @mjp28 said:

    Wow good timing for a WEEK 5 BYE .... for once.  The season restart  is now in WEEK 6 hooray.

    Yeah usually hate them because love seeing my Browns haha, but this time I think we need a reset and this is the perfect time for one. Gives Watson more time to be 100 percent and for Njoku to get right also. I can find something else to do next Sunday I am sure haha.

  • DTR was a dumpster fire today but I don't put it all on him. He's definitely going to need an ice bath after that beating he took today.

  • Bad play calling or not, let's be honest even half decent backup QB could have done better. Robinson was absolutely terrible. Defense was ok I thought, but never gonna win with QB play like that. Hope to fuck Christ Watson is good to go after the bye week.

    @the-junkyard-dog said:

    Bad play calling or not, let's be honest even half decent backup QB could have done better. Robinson was absolutely terrible. Defense was ok I thought, but never gonna win with QB play like that. Hope to fuck Christ Watson is good to go after the bye week.

    Sure highlights Watson's value to the team. Yet there are people out there that completely lose their shit when someone like Watson predictably stuggles, but you can see when he's on his game how effective he can be. They did a terrible job gameplanning for DTR though. He was terrible but they need to help him out too.

  • @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. We have a play calling problem. Stefanski needs to let go of play calling. 

    I know this isn't popular in the age of analytics, you have to have a head coach who can inspire players and hold players accountable on and off the field.

    These also are not Stefanski's strengths. 

    He just isn't the guy to lead a team to great things. The Browns are going to have to move on to someone else if they want to become a legit contender. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I know this isn't popular in the age of analytics, you have to have a head coach who can inspire players and hold players accountable on and off the field.

    These also are not Stefanski's strengths. 

    He just isn't the guy to lead a team to great things. The Browns are going to have to move on to someone else if they want to become a legit contender. 

    Modern Day Norv Turner with less accolades prior to his time in Cleveland. 

  • Ordinarily I'm a passing offense type of guy.  But today dictated a different style.  Run Whever You Can.  No getting tricky.  Instead, on 2nd and 3, we're passing the ball.  Early in the game!  I didn't like today's game plan.

    During some of the 3rd and 4th quarter I completed work on my shed ramps by adding traction tape.  ( two 2x12x6' w/ metal shed access plate hardware ).  So, at least I accomplished something during the 2nd half while checking in to watch the rookie struggle.

  • Ordinarily I'm a passing offense type of guy.  But today dictated a different style.  Run Whever You Can.  No getting tricky.  Instead, on 2nd and 3, we're passing the ball.  Early in the game!  I didn't like today's game plan.

    During some of the 3rd and 4th quarter I completed work on my shed ramps by adding traction tape.  ( two 2x12x6' w/ metal shed access plate hardware ).  So, at least I accomplished something during the 2nd half while checking in to watch the rookie struggle.

    @orion said:

    Ordinarily I'm a passing offense type of guy.  But today dictated a different style.  Run Whever You Can.  No getting tricky.  Instead, on 2nd and 3, we're passing the ball.  Early in the game!  I didn't like today's game plan.

    During some of the 3rd and 4th quarter I completed work on my shed ramps by adding traction tape.  ( two 2x12x6' w/ metal shed access plate hardware ).  So, at least I accomplished something during the 2nd half while checking in to watch the rookie struggle.

    Like one of the announcers said today, our line is set up to block for Nick Chubb. Not sure if all out passing is the strength of the line. I know DTR was bad but it would be nice to see what he can do when he's not looking out the ear hole on his helmet.

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    @orion said:

    Ordinarily I'm a passing offense type of guy.  But today dictated a different style.  Run Whever You Can.  No getting tricky.  Instead, on 2nd and 3, we're passing the ball.  Early in the game!  I didn't like today's game plan.

    During some of the 3rd and 4th quarter I completed work on my shed ramps by adding traction tape.  ( two 2x12x6' w/ metal shed access plate hardware ).  So, at least I accomplished something during the 2nd half while checking in to watch the rookie struggle.

    Like one of the announcers said today, our line is set up to block for Nick Chubb. Not sure if all out passing is the strength of the line. I know DTR was bad but it would be nice to see what he can do when he's not looking out the ear hole on his helmet.

    @neo said:

    Like one of the announcers said today, our line is set up to block for Nick Chubb.

    Yeah, I heard him.  He obviously doesn't realize that the Browns top brass is not interested in 4 yard runs.  They want 13 yard passes.  So, they're not building a line to block for Nick Chubb.

  • @neo said:

    Like one of the announcers said today, our line is set up to block for Nick Chubb.

    Yeah, I heard him.  He obviously doesn't realize that the Browns top brass is not interested in 4 yard runs.  They want 13 yard passes.  So, they're not building a line to block for Nick Chubb.

    @orion said:

    Yeah, I heard him.  He obviously doesn't realize that the Browns top brass is not interested in 4 yard runs.  They want 13 yard passes.  So, they're not building a line to block for Nick Chubb.

    It's getting pretty obvious no one from the FO down is on the same page about how they're set up.  It's even more obvious why Stefon Diggs wanted out of Minnesota's offense and I'll spell it - KEVIN STEFANSKI.  He's about as out of place calling plays for this offense (or whatever it is) as Lizzo would be wearing a bikini in a Sports Illustrated Swim Suit Issue.  

    That was VERY difficult to watch today.

  • @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. We have a play calling problem. Stefanski needs to let go of play calling. 

    Shitmypantski needs total replacement.. Keep the staff.. Fire Kevvy...

    @nickers said:

    Shitmypantski needs total replacement.. Keep the staff.. Fire Kevvy...

    Get him and Front Office DePo outta here.  Promote Bill Callahan to Head Coach and let Alex Van Pelt call the plays again.  Last time he did so, the Browns scored 48 points in a post season win at Pittsburgh.  They also made sure TJ Watt didn't cancel our offense in that game plan.

  • @neo said:

    Like one of the announcers said today, our line is set up to block for Nick Chubb.

    Yeah, I heard him.  He obviously doesn't realize that the Browns top brass is not interested in 4 yard runs.  They want 13 yard passes.  So, they're not building a line to block for Nick Chubb.

    @orion said:

    Yeah, I heard him.  He obviously doesn't realize that the Browns top brass is not interested in 4 yard runs.  They want 13 yard passes.  So, they're not building a line to block for Nick Chubb.

    Good luck with that with their chosen ones for pass pro.  Anyone see more than just our Tackles getting beat bad in pass pro today?  Teller and Pocic were awful.  We have the wrong minds in charge.

  • @orion said:

    Yeah, I heard him.  He obviously doesn't realize that the Browns top brass is not interested in 4 yard runs.  They want 13 yard passes.  So, they're not building a line to block for Nick Chubb.

    Good luck with that with their chosen ones for pass pro.  Anyone see more than just our Tackles getting beat bad in pass pro today?  Teller and Pocic were awful.  We have the wrong minds in charge.

    @flugel said:

    Good luck with that with their chosen ones for pass pro.  Anyone see more than just our Tackles getting beat bad in pass pro today?  Teller and Pocic were awful.  We have the wrong minds in charge.

    The truth is, we couldn't run or pass today.  Of course we had Moore run 20 yards in the wrong direction.

    Early on, we should've been trying to pound the ball at the Ravens on the ground.  Punting the ball would've been acceptable.  Play solid defense and try and run the ball is what we should've been doing.  Try and keep the scoreboard quiet.  Take a FG whenever it presents itself.

    Instead we tried to play like we had our starting QB and not a rookie late round draft pick.  Of course the OL is going to be overwhelmed.  The D is attacking a rookie QB like any defensive coordinator would do.  We played right into their hands.