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    BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by
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    Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder

    https://x.com/SICscore/status/1707445062156878301?s=20

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      Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder

      https://x.com/SICscore/status/1707445062156878301?s=20

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      @berniesuperbowl2 said:

      Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder

      https://x.com/SICscore/status/1707445062156878301?s=20

      When in the game did that happen?

      I saw something a couple days ago that this happened when the Browns had the game in hand, which lends the question why Stefanski is calling designed run games with your starting QB with the win pretty much secured, a week after losing your Pro Bowl RB....

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        @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

        If is wasn't for bad luck.......

        Why didn't we keep Brissett?

        I believe he was looking for more of an opportunity to play.  It seemed like we were an afterthought for him 

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          @berniesuperbowl2 said:

          Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder

          https://x.com/SICscore/status/1707445062156878301?s=20

          When in the game did that happen?

          I saw something a couple days ago that this happened when the Browns had the game in hand, which lends the question why Stefanski is calling designed run games with your starting QB with the win pretty much secured, a week after losing your Pro Bowl RB....

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          @dutch-oven said:

          When in the game did that happen?

          I saw something a couple days ago that this happened when the Browns had the game in hand, which lends the question why Stefanski is calling designed run games with your starting QB with the win pretty much secured, a week after losing your Pro Bowl RB....

          The BIGGER question is why is Stefanski still calling our plays?  Our defense felt like they ran a 10 k in that 1st quarter with the complete lack of time of possession the horrible play calling led to.  So where did that leave us and the home crowd?  It left everyone feeling like Baltimore now owns the Ravens and the Browns.  

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            BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by
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            DTR looked like a crackhead, both figuratively and literally. Stefanski doesn't know how to call non-Nick Chubb plays 

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              Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder

              https://x.com/SICscore/status/1707445062156878301?s=20

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              @berniesuperbowl2 said:

              Right at the end he takes a helmet to his throwing shoulder

              https://x.com/SICscore/status/1707445062156878301?s=20

              Yup.  That's the play.  I was like, Why didn't he just get down?  Why do the Chubb impersonation?   For the umpteenth time, I don't like my QB's running with the ball.  They're too stupid to realize that THEY CAN'T GET HURT!.   The team is fucked without them!  

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                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

                Stefanski isn't calling plays. Depodesta is. Why is this concept so hard for Browns fans to grasp? Depodesta isn't he head coach.

                Even the Rams HC Sean McVay, admittedly hates walking into a Friday anal dept meeting weekly..

                most 32 coaches, talk this same 'games played/called outcome percentages', BS ?, when asked in press conference's on this same subject 

                https://www.nfl.com/videos/kevin-stefanski-refutes-report-that-he-ll-have-to-hand-over-plans-to-analytics-d

                We do know Stef's holding a play call sheet in his hands for now......... his job, his choice?

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                  Is it me, or am I the only one noticing the Steelers and Ravens physically beat us up? And it doesn't seem like they are dishing it back. This team needs to grow a backbone and go out there and destroy some motherfuckers. 

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                    DTR looked like a crackhead, both figuratively and literally. Stefanski doesn't know how to call non-Nick Chubb plays 

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                    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

                    DTR looked like a crackhead, both figuratively and literally. Stefanski doesn't know how to call non-Nick Chubb plays 

                    I don't really blame the kid for having a bad outing his first game in the NFL against one of the better defenses. It's not like our defense would have performed up to the reputation even with a healthy Watson. But if we are calling plays it require him to take off and run this is what we get. If it's a rotator cuff time to get used to DTR.

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                      @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

                      I think he is a weak Cahunnt

                      His play call sheet was given to him by Depodesta. Depodesta is in his headphones the entire time.

                      Fuck Haslam, fuck Depodesta and Fuck Stefanski

                      AGREED!  They're all intertwined and the reason for this annual dumpster fire this early on in the year.   It's like a regularly scheduled alarm clock.  

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                        @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

                        Stefanski isn't calling plays. Depodesta is. Why is this concept so hard for Browns fans to grasp? Depodesta isn't he head coach.

                        Even the Rams HC Sean McVay, admittedly hates walking into a Friday anal dept meeting weekly..

                        most 32 coaches, talk this same 'games played/called outcome percentages', BS ?, when asked in press conference's on this same subject 

                        https://www.nfl.com/videos/kevin-stefanski-refutes-report-that-he-ll-have-to-hand-over-plans-to-analytics-d

                        We do know Stef's holding a play call sheet in his hands for now......... his job, his choice?

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                        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                        @gumby73 said:

                        Even the Rams HC Sean McVay, admittedly hates walking into a Friday anal dept meeting weekly..

                        most 32 coaches, talk this same 'games played/called outcome percentages', BS ?, when asked in press conference's on this same subject 

                        https://www.nfl.com/videos/kevin-stefanski-refutes-report-that-he-ll-have-to-hand-over-plans-to-analytics-d

                        We do know Stef's holding a play call sheet in his hands for now......... his job, his choice?

                        I'm at the point where I don't care WHO we give the credit to for the bad playcalling; because it won't end as long as we have the worst owner in the NFL. I don't care if he opens his wallet and has no idea what he's spending his money on like Randy Lerner did.  That did what for us then and now?   

                        The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly. Now you guys know why I wasn't doing cartwheels and backward flips Elijah Moore that played himself out of the Jets starting lineup last year.  The names keep changing but the results don't.

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                          @gumby73 said:

                          Even the Rams HC Sean McVay, admittedly hates walking into a Friday anal dept meeting weekly..

                          most 32 coaches, talk this same 'games played/called outcome percentages', BS ?, when asked in press conference's on this same subject 

                          https://www.nfl.com/videos/kevin-stefanski-refutes-report-that-he-ll-have-to-hand-over-plans-to-analytics-d

                          We do know Stef's holding a play call sheet in his hands for now......... his job, his choice?

                          I'm at the point where I don't care WHO we give the credit to for the bad playcalling; because it won't end as long as we have the worst owner in the NFL. I don't care if he opens his wallet and has no idea what he's spending his money on like Randy Lerner did.  That did what for us then and now?   

                          The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly. Now you guys know why I wasn't doing cartwheels and backward flips Elijah Moore that played himself out of the Jets starting lineup last year.  The names keep changing but the results don't.

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                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                          @flugel said:

                            The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly. 

                             The names keep changing but the results don't.

                          It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.

                          Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.

                          DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..? 

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                            @berniesuperbowl2 said:

                            DTR looked like a crackhead, both figuratively and literally. Stefanski doesn't know how to call non-Nick Chubb plays 

                            I don't really blame the kid for having a bad outing his first game in the NFL against one of the better defenses. It's not like our defense would have performed up to the reputation even with a healthy Watson. But if we are calling plays it require him to take off and run this is what we get. If it's a rotator cuff time to get used to DTR.

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                            BernieSuperBowl2B BernieSuperBowl2 wrote on last edited by BernieSuperBowl2
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            I don't really blame the kid for having a bad outing his first game in the NFL against one of the better defenses. It's not like our defense would have performed up to the reputation even with a healthy Watson. But if we are calling plays it require him to take off and run this is what we get. If it's a rotator cuff time to get used to DTR.

                            WSS

                            There are no excuses in the NFL. Stefanski didn't do DTR any favors, but most of his throws weren't even in the same zip code as the receiver. 

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                              I think the Browns would have lost this game regardless of the qb - DTR had a terrible day, sure.

                              DTR would have won last week's game. The stinking ratbirds are just that good on defense, in the secondary.... and I said this about the game upcoming -

                              "Jackson scrambling for points seems to be the deciding factor.".... and there he still went and did it.

                              Yes, Jackson surprised me with a few nice throws he wouldn't have made before in his career. But his athleticism seems to be off the charts.

                              and Andrews -Jackson's saving grace when the heat is on. Like Kelsey to Mahommes, like Gronk to Brady.....

                                   Browns need a very smart, great hc.

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                                @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

                                If is wasn't for bad luck.......

                                Why didn't we keep Brissett?

                                Brissett contract was up and he wanted to compete for a starting job, which he had a chance at for the commanders.

                                Trading Dobbs for a 5th is the questionable decision in hindsight. They must have had a lot of faith in DTR

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                                  @flugel said:

                                    The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly. 

                                     The names keep changing but the results don't.

                                  It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.

                                  Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.

                                  DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..? 

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                                  FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                                  @gumby73 said:

                                  It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.

                                  Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.

                                  DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..? 

                                  The offensive system or the just wing-it, fling-it and hope?   The defense showed up to play very early on; and the home crowd was enjoying it.  However, how long were they getting to rest after they stopped Baltimore?  By the time they intercepted DTR the 1st time, our defense looked gas'd like the big fellers started looking/feeling like they had the type of dead legs you'd see on someone that just ran a 10k.  Baltimore's D remained well rested.  They had a game fitting what they're good at.  Consequently, the execution looked easy after they tired out the strength of our team (Defense).  

                                  While I like your point about execution, at what point do we lose the players' buy-in to the compatibility of it all?  Asking a rookie QB (that has had very little reps throwing to the starting receivers/TEs and situational role receivers) to throw the ball 36 times where chemistry probably hasn't even been establish on the practice field yet seems overwhelming for a very 1st NFL start at QB.  Baltimore's D remained well rested.  They had a patient game plan fitting what they're good at.  Consequently, the execution looked easy after they tired out the strength of our team (Defense).  Legs get tired there when the time of possession on offense isn't up to snuff.

                                  While I agree with your comment in bold, did Watson look that much better against Pittsburgh?  They scored 2 TDs on our offense.    In the game thread, I said it way more than once RUN the ball.  That one nice run Ford had that got called back when Cooper held a DB (he didn't need to) - they never went back to it.  

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                                    @flugel said:

                                      The DESIGN of this offense is a joke. It's not sound and REAL defenses will exploit it easily as we've seen repeatedly. 

                                       The names keep changing but the results don't.

                                    It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.

                                    Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.

                                    DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..? 

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                                    @gumby73 said:

                                    It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.

                                    Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.

                                    DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..? 

                                    I call DTR "Dont throw!, Run!"

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                                      @gumby73 said:

                                      It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.

                                      Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.

                                      DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..? 

                                      I call DTR "Dont throw!, Run!"

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                                      I call DTR "Dont throw!, Run!"

                                      ? It would have been nice to ask you - how was the game Nicks?  Unfortunately we all watched it and swore in languages that don't even exist yet so... Did you finally stop puking?

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                                        I call DTR "Dont throw!, Run!"

                                        ? It would have been nice to ask you - how was the game Nicks?  Unfortunately we all watched it and swore in languages that don't even exist yet so... Did you finally stop puking?

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                                        ? It would have been nice to ask you - how was the game Nicks?  Unfortunately we all watched it and swore in languages that don't even exist yet so... Did you finally stop puking?

                                        Tom... I enjoyed being with my Mother,Siblings and other family members... It was great being wit them.. The game... Heh abysmal as it was... I refuse to let that spoil the day... Other wise.. Those GODDD#$%^**^%$#@&!!!!!!!!!!!! Mother$%&((&%$##^!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                          @gumby73 said:

                                          It's not like good coaches like Harbaugh & Tomlin can't figured out Stef's offensive system by now.. It still comes down to players executing & it's not NFL physical enough against those 2 teams.

                                          Even Jim Schwartz thru some questionable wide gaping (DT) fronts that invited out physical'd running results.

                                          DTR... DeShaun Kizer won a starting job on 1 preseason deep TD pass against 2's & 3's.. We saw all we needed to see of DTR playing against the birds 1's..? 

                                          The offensive system or the just wing-it, fling-it and hope?   The defense showed up to play very early on; and the home crowd was enjoying it.  However, how long were they getting to rest after they stopped Baltimore?  By the time they intercepted DTR the 1st time, our defense looked gas'd like the big fellers started looking/feeling like they had the type of dead legs you'd see on someone that just ran a 10k.  Baltimore's D remained well rested.  They had a game fitting what they're good at.  Consequently, the execution looked easy after they tired out the strength of our team (Defense).  

                                          While I like your point about execution, at what point do we lose the players' buy-in to the compatibility of it all?  Asking a rookie QB (that has had very little reps throwing to the starting receivers/TEs and situational role receivers) to throw the ball 36 times where chemistry probably hasn't even been establish on the practice field yet seems overwhelming for a very 1st NFL start at QB.  Baltimore's D remained well rested.  They had a patient game plan fitting what they're good at.  Consequently, the execution looked easy after they tired out the strength of our team (Defense).  Legs get tired there when the time of possession on offense isn't up to snuff.

                                          While I agree with your comment in bold, did Watson look that much better against Pittsburgh?  They scored 2 TDs on our offense.    In the game thread, I said it way more than once RUN the ball.  That one nice run Ford had that got called back when Cooper held a DB (he didn't need to) - they never went back to it.  

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                                           I said it way more than once RUN the ball.  That one nice run Ford had that got called back when Cooper held a DB (he didn't need to) - they never went back to it.  

                                          That’s been a disturbing trend with Kev, for whatever reason the bastard hates running the ball.

                                          I watched rookie QB and the Texans beat the Steelers yesterday with slants, screens, and gashed the Stoolers running the ball.

                                          Somehow I get the feeling Kev needs to take notes.

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