Can Stefanski conjure up a winning formula after the Bye for once?
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Holy shit! Forgive me, I have been busy getting the Watson special ending. When did Stefanski start making the game plan?
What game plan? There was one?
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@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:
Holy shit! Forgive me, I have been busy getting the Watson special ending. When did Stefanski start making the game plan?
What game plan? There was one?
What game plan? There was one?
If we had a first rounder this year I would have believed the game plan was how we got Garrett. Tank.?
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If we had a first rounder this year I would have believed the game plan was how we got Garrett. Tank.?
They went 0-16 in Garrett's rookie year just to prove 1-15 was no fluke (even if the Chargers missed a pretty easy FG the only time the Browns won in that 2 year span).
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I was supposed to go with my buddy to this game, but his kid yadda yadda yadda so he's not able to go and is attempting to sell his tickets instead.
I'm not real upset.
Yeah...Dutch is the ultimate winner of this weekend. ?
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I was supposed to go with my buddy to this game, but his kid yadda yadda yadda so he's not able to go and is attempting to sell his tickets instead.
I'm not real upset.
Yeah...Dutch is the ultimate winner of this weekend. ?
Yeah...Dutch is the ultimate winner of this weekend. ?
My buddy not understanding how birth control works ultimately worked out for me!
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Stefanski earned this win.
I didn't agree with the color commentator's thoughts on when to go for it and when not. We went for it on 4th and 4 because we absolutely had to.
Stef took the FG attempts whenever he could / had to. He knew how good the SF D was and he relied on his D to control the game. And Schwartz's guys did the job. If the FG kick hooked 1 measly yard, we lose. As we've done countless times in that situation. 'Bout time a game winning opponent's kick goes our way.
I think Stef did a good job today. I didn't agree with every play call but that will always be the case, with all of us, no matter who the play caller is.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Stefanksi now is 3-1 after a bye week, for those keeping score at home.
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Stefanski earned this win.
I didn't agree with the color commentator's thoughts on when to go for it and when not. We went for it on 4th and 4 because we absolutely had to.
Stef took the FG attempts whenever he could / had to. He knew how good the SF D was and he relied on his D to control the game. And Schwartz's guys did the job. If the FG kick hooked 1 measly yard, we lose. As we've done countless times in that situation. 'Bout time a game winning opponent's kick goes our way.
I think Stef did a good job today. I didn't agree with every play call but that will always be the case, with all of us, no matter who the play caller is.
Stefanski earned this win.
I didn't agree with the color commentator's thoughts on when to go for it and when not. We went for it on 4th and 4 because we absolutely had to.
Stef took the FG attempts whenever he could / had to. He knew how good the SF D was and he relied on his D to control the game. And Schwartz's guys did the job. If the FG kick hooked 1 measly yard, we lose. As we've done countless times in that situation. 'Bout time a game winning opponent's kick goes our way.
I think Stef did a good job today. I didn't agree with every play call but that will always be the case, with all of us, no matter who the play caller is.
Greg Olsen is an idiot, we punted on a 4th and long 1, up by 3 at our own 40, defense forced an immediate punt. That’s the exact outcome you want (except for losing the timeout)
For some reason he kept ragging on the decision even after the 4th and 4 play.
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Stefanski earned this win.
I didn't agree with the color commentator's thoughts on when to go for it and when not. We went for it on 4th and 4 because we absolutely had to.
Stef took the FG attempts whenever he could / had to. He knew how good the SF D was and he relied on his D to control the game. And Schwartz's guys did the job. If the FG kick hooked 1 measly yard, we lose. As we've done countless times in that situation. 'Bout time a game winning opponent's kick goes our way.
I think Stef did a good job today. I didn't agree with every play call but that will always be the case, with all of us, no matter who the play caller is.
Greg Olsen is an idiot, we punted on a 4th and long 1, up by 3 at our own 40, defense forced an immediate punt. That’s the exact outcome you want (except for losing the timeout)
For some reason he kept ragging on the decision even after the 4th and 4 play.
Greg Olsen is an idiot, we punted on a 4th and long 1, up by 3 at our own 40, defense forced an immediate punt. That’s the exact outcome you want (except for losing the timeout)
For some reason he kept ragging on the decision even after the 4th and 4 play.
We were in the process of 'stealing' a win over a better team...with a guy named PJ at QB. That's not time for an unforced error. You punt and make the better team prove that they can come down the field against your solid defense. It was the right strategy with a crippled offense.
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No.
Glad I'm wrong.
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At least you lived up to it ..... Kevin got some national praise for actually beating SF.
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At least you lived up to it ..... Kevin got some national praise for actually beating SF.
At least you lived up to it ..... Kevin got some national praise for actually beating SF.
Kevin didn't beat SF. Coach Schwartz beat SF, and Kevin did just about anything he could to prevent that!
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Kevin didn't beat SF. Coach Schwartz beat SF, and Kevin did just about anything he could to prevent that!
It's still a headshaker to me how he could have even thought about rolling out our QB on 2nd and goal with an option to pass when what we clearly needed was to keep the clock running and cause SF to waste another TO. That should have been intercepted and game over for the Lucy Van Ski led Browns. Just plain stupid. No other word applies better.?
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Kevin didn't beat SF. Coach Schwartz beat SF, and Kevin did just about anything he could to prevent that!
The coaching staff, at least on the offensive side of the ball, stole some looks from the Ravens over the course of the BYE week. To help slow down the Niners pass rush and interior push, we ran some pin & pull, but with the addition of Y trap (Njoku) a look I haven't seen us use previously this season. We sprang Kareem for two good runs off that design.
As ugly as things were on offense, that would indicate a coaching staff utilizing concepts that worked against our defense, against a Niners Dline built similar to ours in terms of one gap aggressive play. Also means that Stef & co showed nuance and a creative touch.
As easy as it is to just say 'in spite of XYZ', that doesn't appear to be accurate.
It's still a headshaker to me how he could have even thought about rolling out our QB on 2nd and goal with an option to pass when what we clearly needed was to keep the clock running and cause SF to waste another TO. That should have been intercepted and game over for the Lucy Van Ski led Browns. Just plain stupid. No other word applies better.?
This is hindsight only because we won. I would have preferred a strong ball action fake and a simple 1a/1b design on 1st down, like spot-smash to a bigger body. Those early downs, when the S.F. DEF is playing your hand in wanting to attack downhill, are when you can (usually) get your cheapest yards through the air. A TE leak for a TD is a dagger, meaning you don't have to put your defense in a position to win the game all on their own.
And for as well as the defense played at times, we did, in terms of yardage, give up a game losing drive. Brownies were just fortunate enough to be on the positive end of a bad kicking situation for the first time in a long time.
Remember, Tressel-ball has also lost games before too.
Important to keep things in perspective.
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We are 3-13 since 2021 after a win…gotta change that.
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Kevin didn't beat SF. Coach Schwartz beat SF, and Kevin did just about anything he could to prevent that!
The coaching staff, at least on the offensive side of the ball, stole some looks from the Ravens over the course of the BYE week. To help slow down the Niners pass rush and interior push, we ran some pin & pull, but with the addition of Y trap (Njoku) a look I haven't seen us use previously this season. We sprang Kareem for two good runs off that design.
As ugly as things were on offense, that would indicate a coaching staff utilizing concepts that worked against our defense, against a Niners Dline built similar to ours in terms of one gap aggressive play. Also means that Stef & co showed nuance and a creative touch.
As easy as it is to just say 'in spite of XYZ', that doesn't appear to be accurate.
It's still a headshaker to me how he could have even thought about rolling out our QB on 2nd and goal with an option to pass when what we clearly needed was to keep the clock running and cause SF to waste another TO. That should have been intercepted and game over for the Lucy Van Ski led Browns. Just plain stupid. No other word applies better.?
This is hindsight only because we won. I would have preferred a strong ball action fake and a simple 1a/1b design on 1st down, like spot-smash to a bigger body. Those early downs, when the S.F. DEF is playing your hand in wanting to attack downhill, are when you can (usually) get your cheapest yards through the air. A TE leak for a TD is a dagger, meaning you don't have to put your defense in a position to win the game all on their own.
And for as well as the defense played at times, we did, in terms of yardage, give up a game losing drive. Brownies were just fortunate enough to be on the positive end of a bad kicking situation for the first time in a long time.
Remember, Tressel-ball has also lost games before too.
Important to keep things in perspective.
The coaching staff, at least on the offensive side of the ball, stole some looks from the Ravens over the course of the BYE week. To help slow down the Niners pass rush and interior push, we ran some pin & pull, but with the addition of Y trap (Njoku) a look I haven't seen us use previously this season. We sprang Kareem for two good runs off that design.
As ugly as things were on offense, that would indicate a coaching staff utilizing concepts that worked against our defense, against a Niners Dline built similar to ours in terms of one gap aggressive play. Also means that Stef & co showed nuance and a creative touch.
As easy as it is to just say 'in spite of XYZ', that doesn't appear to be accurate.
This is hindsight only because we won. I would have preferred a strong ball action fake and a simple 1a/1b design on 1st down, like spot-smash to a bigger body. Those early downs, when the S.F. DEF is playing your hand in wanting to attack downhill, are when you can (usually) get your cheapest yards through the air. A TE leak for a TD is a dagger, meaning you don't have to put your defense in a position to win the game all on their own.
And for as well as the defense played at times, we did, in terms of yardage, give up a game losing drive. Brownies were just fortunate enough to be on the positive end of a bad kicking situation for the first time in a long time.
Remember, Tressel-ball has also lost games before too.
Important to keep things in perspective.
Respectfully, your seemingly addictive desire for nuance seems to cloud your own perspective.
As I already mentioned in the post linked below, our defense is allowing a historic YPG. Keeping this up against the Niners, who outscored previous opponents by double digits with ease, I do not see how "Schwartz beat SF" is disputable.
Other than the Titans game, when Watson was 'feeling it,' our offense has been plain bad. That's on coach Fancy.
And I still agree with @texasag1969 that the 2nd down pass in the redzone was just abysmal. Typical fancy Stefanski play calling. Your nuance that throwing to the TE woulda worked in that situation might be true when Watson or a decent back-up was playing. We had a notorious INT-machine on the field, who seemed intent to prove it on that play as well. In the game topic, I suggested "3 knees and a FG." While 3 rushes would have been better, I maintain that my suggestion is superior to what coach conjured up.
It is indeed hopeful that the coaching staff are making tweaks and trying to improve. As it stands however, we are winning because of Schwartz and in spite of Fancy holds true for both the Niners game and the season so far IMO. Both based on stats, and observations.
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Kevin didn't beat SF. Coach Schwartz beat SF, and Kevin did just about anything he could to prevent that!
The coaching staff, at least on the offensive side of the ball, stole some looks from the Ravens over the course of the BYE week. To help slow down the Niners pass rush and interior push, we ran some pin & pull, but with the addition of Y trap (Njoku) a look I haven't seen us use previously this season. We sprang Kareem for two good runs off that design.
As ugly as things were on offense, that would indicate a coaching staff utilizing concepts that worked against our defense, against a Niners Dline built similar to ours in terms of one gap aggressive play. Also means that Stef & co showed nuance and a creative touch.
As easy as it is to just say 'in spite of XYZ', that doesn't appear to be accurate.
It's still a headshaker to me how he could have even thought about rolling out our QB on 2nd and goal with an option to pass when what we clearly needed was to keep the clock running and cause SF to waste another TO. That should have been intercepted and game over for the Lucy Van Ski led Browns. Just plain stupid. No other word applies better.?
This is hindsight only because we won. I would have preferred a strong ball action fake and a simple 1a/1b design on 1st down, like spot-smash to a bigger body. Those early downs, when the S.F. DEF is playing your hand in wanting to attack downhill, are when you can (usually) get your cheapest yards through the air. A TE leak for a TD is a dagger, meaning you don't have to put your defense in a position to win the game all on their own.
And for as well as the defense played at times, we did, in terms of yardage, give up a game losing drive. Brownies were just fortunate enough to be on the positive end of a bad kicking situation for the first time in a long time.
Remember, Tressel-ball has also lost games before too.
Important to keep things in perspective.
As ugly as things were on offense, that would indicate a coaching staff utilizing concepts that worked against our defense, against a Niners Dline built similar to ours in terms of one gap aggressive play. Also means that Stef & co showed nuance and a creative touch.
The offensive brain-trust did what it could with what it had. It was one of the smarter offensive games I've seen from us.
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