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  • @flugel said:

    I'm not sure that work ethic upgrades what we're already worrying about with our current Left Tackle - but I've recently heard that the Browns don't have plans for Jones at LT this year.  With Conklin's injury history at RT - it looks like the big feller has some opportunities ahead if he wants to put in the work. I get the sense he loves football on HIS terms; and that might not be such a bad starting point if there's a good locker room around him (role modeling professionalism).  We're gonna find out REAL soon!

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    he did play some LT for the Bucks

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    @dutch-oven said:

    I'll be thrilled if Jones can become the eventual starter at either tackle position, the Browns can't run from the salary cap monster forever. 

    I have some doubts about his ability to be a LT longterm, but what the hell, you never know. Might as well try him out now and see what he can do. 

    he did play some LT for the Bucks

    @syd said:

    he did play some LT for the Bucks

    He's a mammoth man, I just wonder how well he would hold up against speed rushers. 

    I also will watch in the upcoming years how he maintains (or doesn't) his weight. 

  • It will be fun watching how Jones stacks up in his first game against watt.

    ' “What awesome technique! Firm inside hand, great feet/balance, never leans on outside hand but uses it to punch and steer….bravo @dawandj79.″ ' Joe Thomas

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       I got his feet and balance right !

  • @browns149 said:

    I watched him on a lot of plays. He has the ability to be very good. Just hope he can stay in decent shape

    Reminds you of a  HIGH SCHOOL Game with a really BIG  guy who would smash the younger guy on the other side of the line. EXCEPT these are the NFL players  the best on the planet.   Can he keep it up against them ?   We certainly hope so.

    @mjp28 said:

    Reminds you of a  HIGH SCHOOL Game with a really BIG  guy who would smash the younger guy on the other side of the line. EXCEPT these are the NFL players  the best on the planet.   Can he keep it up against them ?   We certainly hope so.

    LOL, mjp.  We're both around the same age- so you probably remember a guy by the name of John Hicks- offensive line. Ohio State, Jets NFL. John Hay high school in Cleveland. We (Benedictine) played John Hay several times when Hicks was there- and it was exactly as you described. Man among boys. 

    Oh, and my good friend and co season ticket holder had an unforgettable close encounter with Hicks- playing baseball. Don was a catcher and um- Hicks kind of steamrolled him at home plate.  

  • Passpro, obviously, he's doing well.

    Run blocking, though, needs a lot of work. Don't put him in Canton just yet.

  • 1 week at a time.  It's nice to be excited about an Offensive Tackle at very cap friendly prices.

  • Rookie had himself a day..

    Dawand Jones allowed one quarterback pressure on 37 allowed-pressure opportunities on his way to a 67.4 pass-blocking grade and recorded a 74.1 run-blocking grade.

    Enjoy watching the big man's foot speed, kick, balance & long armed hand fights ?

  • He's slowly getting there and got some nice chippy help from time to time. Still clearly beaten on a few, but a lot get beaten by that guy.

  • So much potential there. If he keeps improving, it is his position, and I doubt we see much more of Conklin.

    Now if only he had a big, or slightly littler brother who could plat LT!

  • So much potential there. If he keeps improving, it is his position, and I doubt we see much more of Conklin.

    Now if only he had a big, or slightly littler brother who could plat LT!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    So much potential there. If he keeps improving, it is his position, and I doubt we see much more of Conklin.

    Now if only he had a big, or slightly littler brother who could plat LT!

    I'd think Conklin's days with the Browns are over, I'm sure the Browns would save a ton of money if Jones replaced Conklin, which will come in handy in the very near future.

    Plus, Conklin is always hurt. 

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    So much potential there. If he keeps improving, it is his position, and I doubt we see much more of Conklin.

    Now if only he had a big, or slightly littler brother who could plat LT!

    I'd think Conklin's days with the Browns are over, I'm sure the Browns would save a ton of money if Jones replaced Conklin, which will come in handy in the very near future.

    Plus, Conklin is always hurt. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Plus, Conklin is always hurt. 

    Yes, he is. Seems he only plays half seasons if that much.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Plus, Conklin is always hurt. 

    Yes, he is. Seems he only plays half seasons if that much.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yes, he is. Seems he only plays half seasons if that much.

    He's not worth what were giving him.. Would love to see him and wills replaced...

  • Rookie had himself a day..

    Dawand Jones allowed one quarterback pressure on 37 allowed-pressure opportunities on his way to a 67.4 pass-blocking grade and recorded a 74.1 run-blocking grade.

    Enjoy watching the big man's foot speed, kick, balance & long armed hand fights ?

    @gumby73 said:

    Rookie had himself a day..

    Dawand Jones allowed one quarterback pressure on 37 allowed-pressure opportunities on his way to a 67.4 pass-blocking grade and recorded a 74.1 run-blocking grade.

    Enjoy watching the big man's foot speed, kick, balance & long armed hand fights ?

    This cutup saved me quite a bit of time, thanks for that Gumbs.   A few thoughts.

    - Watching Oline snaps and sifting through every single play still truly matters.  Because, let's say in 19 snaps, there's going to be MAYBE half dozen that really clue you into where that player is at.   I've found it to be no different watching college QB's anymore.   My best example was when I had my going over of Matt Corral at Ole Miss.   You get a handful of plays where the details paint the bigger picture.

    - This goes back to those bigger bodies that Bama was cranking out for a while there at tackle who were just too big to play OT in the NFL - Robinson and Leatherwood come to mind.   Orlando Brown Jr is another example, minus being from Bama.   In order to succeed at that size, you need elite wingspan and hand usage.  Your initial pass pro punch is going to make a break your ability to hold up 1 on 1.       Dawand has clearly been working on his.   I would suspect, because of again his size to his mobility, is why he would show up better at the longer/taller edge players such as Myles, Bosa, Armstead, Hendrickson, Arden, etc etc...       Because those are the body types that allow him to use his wingspan and strength more than anything.  Larger strike area means more ability to slow down the initial rush.  

      Would also help us to understand why he struggled with Watt.  TJ is a bit more compact compared to those I've listed, while he maintains a great wingspan for his height,  and his ability to work off from a tackles strike and sort of 'pace' and play off that first punch is second to none.   Think of it like someone using your own momentum against you.        This also gives me pause because we have some of those similarly more compact and twitchy guys coming up on the schedule - Ekubam, Nwosu, Bryce Huff, to name a few.      So while this is a great start, Jonesy needs to keep building on it and help to slowly develop those weaknesses into potential, shall we say - draws?  

     While that is all good and well, there are times he still finds himself extended beyond the stability of his base, and sort of lunging his upper body into contact instead of trusting his arm length.     From the linked video above....

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     This is the best example I can find.   Jermaine Johnson in the pre-season saw this and tried ripping him down by pulling on his arms and toppling him over when he saw this.  Problem being that he's such a mountain of a man, that's much easier said than done.   

     I'm content at Dawand's development.  But I'm also keen to the fact that, per my snap counts, he had chip help or was dealing with a widened rusher from Njoku being inline on over half his drop backs. The majority of the rest of the drop backs involved screens, some boot action where he was washing the 1 or 3tech and/or the Browns going to the quick passing game.        So there was still significant help throw his way against San Fran in the form of personnel and playcalling.    Granted, it makes sense - questionable QB play, so you protect the edges and do what you can to generate cheap offense while avoiding turnovers.      But I'm not one to easily impress, so while I recognize the level of game, I also recognize that DJ still has flaws he needs to continuously improve on.    I'll check back in here after the game today, because I doubt the coaches will be giving him the level of help he received against Bosa.   And like I mentioned above, the Colts have a couple of those shorter, 'boxy' type edge rushers.

  • Say hello to your new starting LT next year. Conklin will be back and under contract, Wills has to move on. 

  • Say hello to your new starting LT next year. Conklin will be back and under contract, Wills has to move on. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

     Wills has to move on. 

    Brownies have already used the 5th year option on Jed.  

  • Say hello to your new starting LT next year. Conklin will be back and under contract, Wills has to move on. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Say hello to your new starting LT next year. Conklin will be back and under contract, Wills has to move on. 

    What, for another half to one quarter season? I don't think betting on Conklin at this point makes too much sense even at RT, so Jed remains unless we get a jewel somehow.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

     Wills has to move on. 

    Brownies have already used the 5th year option on Jed.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Brownies have already used the 5th year option on Jed.  

    Yeah, I was just thinking about that. Guys on the podcast were talking about it and weren't sure how it'd go. You always need Tackle depth, but you can't pay big bucks for someone to ride the bench. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, but you won't be able to keep Thanos on the sidelines. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Brownies have already used the 5th year option on Jed.  

    Yeah, I was just thinking about that. Guys on the podcast were talking about it and weren't sure how it'd go. You always need Tackle depth, but you can't pay big bucks for someone to ride the bench. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, but you won't be able to keep Thanos on the sidelines. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Yeah, I was just thinking about that. Guys on the podcast were talking about it and weren't sure how it'd go. You always need Tackle depth, but you can't pay big bucks for someone to ride the bench. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, but you won't be able to keep Thanos on the sidelines. 

    At some point... You have to make a decision on Wills... He's just been average... And moreso a liability... Id find any way possible to move on from him...

  • @jiggins7919 said:

     Wills has to move on. 

    Brownies have already used the 5th year option on Jed.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Brownies have already used the 5th year option on Jed.  

    Next thing ya know ol’ Jed’s a millionaire…