There are NO such thing as "palestinians". Learn HISTORY
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Despite what all the new age leftists think there is no such thing as fairness. There's only who can take the land and hold it. Every single country in this world is built on someone else's grave and to pretend otherwise is the height of hypocrisy.
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the palestinians/arabic haters did. They refused to have a state, they demanded the Jews not have one, they refused to have their state next to Jews, so they screwed themselves over.
The modern state of Israel came into existence via a UN mandate. A mandate in which land was taken away from people who were already living there and had been living there for generations to be divided up into a brand new state for the Jewish diaspora.
It would be akin to the UN creating a mandate to take the northeastern part of Ohio to create a nation state for the illegal immigrants coming up from Mexico and telling the existing people living there that their land was not theirs anymore and telling them to leave.
The modern state of Israel came into existence via a UN mandate. A mandate in which land was taken away from people who were already living there and had been living there for generations to be divided up into a brand new state for the Jewish diaspora.
It would be akin to the UN creating a mandate to take the northeastern part of Ohio to create a nation state for the illegal immigrants coming up from Mexico and telling the existing people living there that their land was not theirs anymore and telling them to leave.
Not even a close comparison. Illegals have no historical claim to the land in Northern Ohio. Perhaps southern Ohio (Cintucky region).
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The modern state of Israel came into existence via a UN mandate. A mandate in which land was taken away from people who were already living there and had been living there for generations to be divided up into a brand new state for the Jewish diaspora.
It would be akin to the UN creating a mandate to take the northeastern part of Ohio to create a nation state for the illegal immigrants coming up from Mexico and telling the existing people living there that their land was not theirs anymore and telling them to leave.
Not even a close comparison. Illegals have no historical claim to the land in Northern Ohio. Perhaps southern Ohio (Cintucky region).
Not even a close comparison. Illegals have no historical claim to the land in Northern Ohio. Perhaps southern Ohio (Cintucky region).
Despite what all the new age leftists think there is no such thing as fairness. There's only who can take the land and hold it. Every single country in this world is built on someone else's grave and to pretend otherwise is the height of hypocrisy.
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
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Not even a close comparison. Illegals have no historical claim to the land in Northern Ohio. Perhaps southern Ohio (Cintucky region).
Despite what all the new age leftists think there is no such thing as fairness. There's only who can take the land and hold it. Every single country in this world is built on someone else's grave and to pretend otherwise is the height of hypocrisy.
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
only half true, Vapor. The UN thought it was a good idea to create a JEWISH STATE, and an
ARABIC/"Palestinian" state. Both states were to be created.
the palestinians REFUSED TO HAVE A STATE, THEY DEMANDED NO STATE FOR THE JEWS,
and THEY WOULD CONTROL THE ENTIRE REGION.
Come on, man.
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Not even a close comparison. Illegals have no historical claim to the land in Northern Ohio. Perhaps southern Ohio (Cintucky region).
Despite what all the new age leftists think there is no such thing as fairness. There's only who can take the land and hold it. Every single country in this world is built on someone else's grave and to pretend otherwise is the height of hypocrisy.
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
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Not even a close comparison. Illegals have no historical claim to the land in Northern Ohio. Perhaps southern Ohio (Cintucky region).
Despite what all the new age leftists think there is no such thing as fairness. There's only who can take the land and hold it. Every single country in this world is built on someone else's grave and to pretend otherwise is the height of hypocrisy.
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
Move them to New York or California?
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Not even a close comparison. Illegals have no historical claim to the land in Northern Ohio. Perhaps southern Ohio (Cintucky region).
Despite what all the new age leftists think there is no such thing as fairness. There's only who can take the land and hold it. Every single country in this world is built on someone else's grave and to pretend otherwise is the height of hypocrisy.
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
After Hitler tried to genocide the Jews, the UN thought it was a good idea to create Israel for all the displaced people. Look how that worked out.
What exactly do you guys think the UN will do with the displaced Palestinians if Israel is allowed to raze Gaza? (I actually don't know the answer to this question, but I can quite confidently say that I won't like what they decide)
The UN doesn't have to do shit with them. They can just ignore it like they do with all the genocide victims in Africa. If they get brought here it's not going to be the U.N. doing it but good ol' bleeding heart liberals that would rather sacrifice my kids and yours than ever say no to garbage people from a garbage culture. You can be damn sure they'll try to stick them in red states though.
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the palestinians/arabic haters did. They refused to have a state, they demanded the Jews not have one, they refused to have their state next to Jews, so they screwed themselves over.
The modern state of Israel came into existence via a UN mandate. A mandate in which land was taken away from people who were already living there and had been living there for generations to be divided up into a brand new state for the Jewish diaspora.
It would be akin to the UN creating a mandate to take the northeastern part of Ohio to create a nation state for the illegal immigrants coming up from Mexico and telling the existing people living there that their land was not theirs anymore and telling them to leave.
The modern state of Israel came into existence via a UN mandate.
I highly recommend reading some world history.
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1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
1947: Arabs reject the UN partition plan to create a Jewish and Arab state. Wage war against the new nation of Israel. Lose more land than the partition gave them.
1967: Israel wins yet another war against its Arab neighbors, conquering Gaza, the West Bank and Sinai in a defensive war. The Arab League declares the "three no's": No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel. Israel voluntarily hands control of the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism back to the Islamic Waqf, and made it illegal for Jews to pray there.
1979: Israel voluntarily hands the Sinai back to Egypt, returning land conquered in a defensive war.
1993: Israel recognizes the sovereignty of the Palestinian Authority over the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Oslo Accords. Yasser Arafat uses it to support terrorism.
2000: Israel offers Yasser Arafat recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital. Arafat rejects it and launches the Second Intifada.
2005: Israel pulls out of the Gaza Strip, dismantles all its settlements, and forces Jews to leave their homes. Palestinians respond by electing Hamas who turn it into a terror state.
2008: Israel offers Mahmoud Abbas once again recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital and even offered to dismantle all their settlements. And once again, the Palestinians reject it.
2010-2021: Hamas launches periodic rocket attacks against the state of Israel and builds terror tunnels in order to kidnap and murder Jews while using the people of Gaza as human shields against the IDF.
2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
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1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
1947: Arabs reject the UN partition plan to create a Jewish and Arab state. Wage war against the new nation of Israel. Lose more land than the partition gave them.
1967: Israel wins yet another war against its Arab neighbors, conquering Gaza, the West Bank and Sinai in a defensive war. The Arab League declares the "three no's": No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel. Israel voluntarily hands control of the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism back to the Islamic Waqf, and made it illegal for Jews to pray there.
1979: Israel voluntarily hands the Sinai back to Egypt, returning land conquered in a defensive war.
1993: Israel recognizes the sovereignty of the Palestinian Authority over the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Oslo Accords. Yasser Arafat uses it to support terrorism.
2000: Israel offers Yasser Arafat recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital. Arafat rejects it and launches the Second Intifada.
2005: Israel pulls out of the Gaza Strip, dismantles all its settlements, and forces Jews to leave their homes. Palestinians respond by electing Hamas who turn it into a terror state.
2008: Israel offers Mahmoud Abbas once again recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital and even offered to dismantle all their settlements. And once again, the Palestinians reject it.
2010-2021: Hamas launches periodic rocket attacks against the state of Israel and builds terror tunnels in order to kidnap and murder Jews while using the people of Gaza as human shields against the IDF.
2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
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2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
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1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
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2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
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1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
...
2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
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1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
...
2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
ok, take your time before you answer....
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1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
...
2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
Because Israel is strong enough to occupy the land and hold it and they offered the Palestinians amnesty to stay and live and they rejected it. I'm hardly an Israel lover but that is how it works. I don't have any sympathy for the poor beleaguered people of wherever because as Ive said before even a cursory trip through history will reveal that that is literally how it has always worked on earth. The Muslims conquered Spain and held it for hundreds of years and made the Spanish pay jizya tax to live on their own land. That's how it works. Might makes right. Always has, always will. That's how America will eventually be lost. The same way Rome was, by admitting barbarians.
Fuck the Palestinians. Fuck them double because not even their own brethren want them and why would they? You think Saudi Arabia and their rich wahabi royalty wants a bunch of sunni dissidents hanging around bitching about how they're not submitting to god correctly and causing problems? Of course not. Only Western nations that think diversity is a strength want that.
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States in the Middle East are violent and poorly governed. More at 11.
All this proves is that the partition plan was retarded in the first place. It's like saying "Hey, the Rockefellers used to live in East Cleveland, let's partition half the city and give it to the Rockefeller descendants. It's their birthright, after all. And we're offering the East Clevelanders living there now half of it, so it's fair! The current East Clevelanders don't really have a historical claim to the land anyways." What could possibly go wrong?
I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the hipsters who choose to gentrify a shitty neighborhood and get mugged on the way home from the bar. Why on earth would I feel any different about Israel?
Because Israel is strong enough to occupy the land and hold it and they offered the Palestinians amnesty to stay and live and they rejected it. I'm hardly an Israel lover but that is how it works. I don't have any sympathy for the poor beleaguered people of wherever because as Ive said before even a cursory trip through history will reveal that that is literally how it has always worked on earth. The Muslims conquered Spain and held it for hundreds of years and made the Spanish pay jizya tax to live on their own land. That's how it works. Might makes right. Always has, always will. That's how America will eventually be lost. The same way Rome was, by admitting barbarians.
Fuck the Palestinians. Fuck them double because not even their own brethren want them and why would they? You think Saudi Arabia and their rich wahabi royalty wants a bunch of sunni dissidents hanging around bitching about how they're not submitting to god correctly and causing problems? Of course not. Only Western nations that think diversity is a strength want that.
Because Israel is strong enough to occupy the land and hold it and they offered the Palestinians amnesty to stay and live and they rejected it. I'm hardly an Israel lover but that is how it works. I don't have any sympathy for the poor beleaguered people of wherever because as Ive said before even a cursory trip through history will reveal that that is literally how it has always worked on earth. The Muslims conquered Spain and held it for hundreds of years and made the Spanish pay jizya tax to live on their own land. That's how it works. Might makes right. Always has, always will. That's how America will eventually be lost. The same way Rome was, by admitting barbarians.
Fuck the Palestinians. Fuck them double because not even their own brethren want them and why would they? You think Saudi Arabia and their rich wahabi royalty wants a bunch of sunni dissidents hanging around bitching about how they're not submitting to god correctly and causing problems? Of course not. Only Western nations that think diversity is a strength want that.
You can have all the military might in the world and still make decisions that lead to strategic failure.
US and USSR - Run out of Afghanistan to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
US - Run out of Vietnam and Iraq to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
Israel - They've earned a shit ton of war spoils through the wars fought to this point, but they still have an enemy who hates them on their doorstep. Unfortunately for the Israelis, the technological gap has narrowed between themselves and the Muslim states since their last major war. I suspect that is a half the reason why the Gaza invasion has been delayed.
The rest of your post I more or less agree with. I just think that you're giving Israel a pass for their stupidity because you hate the other side so much. What's puzzling to me is that it will affect Americans negatively, and you're still rooting for the destruction of Gaza. Don't know if you've been following Israel's domestic politics, but Bibi is going to get voted out or thrown in jail as soon as the shooting stops. He will be blamed for allowing the attack to happen in the first place. There were massive protests in Israel against Netanyahu in the past year because of idiotic policies like the one above.
What Bibi's done with Hamas clearly falls into the category of "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
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Because Israel is strong enough to occupy the land and hold it and they offered the Palestinians amnesty to stay and live and they rejected it. I'm hardly an Israel lover but that is how it works. I don't have any sympathy for the poor beleaguered people of wherever because as Ive said before even a cursory trip through history will reveal that that is literally how it has always worked on earth. The Muslims conquered Spain and held it for hundreds of years and made the Spanish pay jizya tax to live on their own land. That's how it works. Might makes right. Always has, always will. That's how America will eventually be lost. The same way Rome was, by admitting barbarians.
Fuck the Palestinians. Fuck them double because not even their own brethren want them and why would they? You think Saudi Arabia and their rich wahabi royalty wants a bunch of sunni dissidents hanging around bitching about how they're not submitting to god correctly and causing problems? Of course not. Only Western nations that think diversity is a strength want that.
You can have all the military might in the world and still make decisions that lead to strategic failure.
US and USSR - Run out of Afghanistan to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
US - Run out of Vietnam and Iraq to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
Israel - They've earned a shit ton of war spoils through the wars fought to this point, but they still have an enemy who hates them on their doorstep. Unfortunately for the Israelis, the technological gap has narrowed between themselves and the Muslim states since their last major war. I suspect that is a half the reason why the Gaza invasion has been delayed.
The rest of your post I more or less agree with. I just think that you're giving Israel a pass for their stupidity because you hate the other side so much. What's puzzling to me is that it will affect Americans negatively, and you're still rooting for the destruction of Gaza. Don't know if you've been following Israel's domestic politics, but Bibi is going to get voted out or thrown in jail as soon as the shooting stops. He will be blamed for allowing the attack to happen in the first place. There were massive protests in Israel against Netanyahu in the past year because of idiotic policies like the one above.
What Bibi's done with Hamas clearly falls into the category of "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
You can have all the military might in the world and still make decisions that lead to strategic failure.
US and USSR - Run out of Afghanistan to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
US - Run out of Vietnam and Iraq to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
Israel - They've earned a shit ton of war spoils through the wars fought to this point, but they still have an enemy who hates them on their doorstep. Unfortunately for the Israelis, the technological gap has narrowed between themselves and the Muslim states since their last major war. I suspect that is a half the reason why the Gaza invasion has been delayed.
The rest of your post I more or less agree with. I just think that you're giving Israel a pass for their stupidity because you hate the other side so much. What's puzzling to me is that it will affect Americans negatively, and you're still rooting for the destruction of Gaza. Don't know if you've been following Israel's domestic politics, but Bibi is going to get voted out or thrown in jail as soon as the shooting stops. He will be blamed for allowing the attack to happen in the first place. There were massive protests in Israel against Netanyahu in the past year because of idiotic policies like the one above.
What Bibi's done with Hamas clearly falls into the category of "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
All those examples are of powers waging war on foreign soil. It's a little different when they're waging war on YOUR country. It's a bit easier to muster both resources and morale for that. When Hitler and Napoleon came to Russia it worked out a little, teensy bit differently.
I don't hate the Palestinians. I just don't like them either and I don't give a fuck on ethical or humanitarian grounds if they do get eliminated based on their own actions. There's nothing cheaper than human life. I'll let woody wring his hands and go on about their oppression. It's disingenuous to pretend I care about the oppression of foreign peoples, because I don't. Especially when I don't respect their way of life. If the Palestinians and Jews roles were reversed I'd very likely have a similar reaction because I don't respect the Jews' way of life either. I'm not much for the shenanigans of abrahamic religions and their absolute assuradness that they're the ones that are interpreting their slightly different version of the same crappy story correctly. God hasn't shown me much in the way of favoring any of them, either. Except maybe Catholics. They've got a whole city within Rome with golden baubles and original arts by the greatest masters in human history casually strewn about. If we're going on who God favors it's hard to argue against them.
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Because Israel is strong enough to occupy the land and hold it and they offered the Palestinians amnesty to stay and live and they rejected it. I'm hardly an Israel lover but that is how it works. I don't have any sympathy for the poor beleaguered people of wherever because as Ive said before even a cursory trip through history will reveal that that is literally how it has always worked on earth. The Muslims conquered Spain and held it for hundreds of years and made the Spanish pay jizya tax to live on their own land. That's how it works. Might makes right. Always has, always will. That's how America will eventually be lost. The same way Rome was, by admitting barbarians.
Fuck the Palestinians. Fuck them double because not even their own brethren want them and why would they? You think Saudi Arabia and their rich wahabi royalty wants a bunch of sunni dissidents hanging around bitching about how they're not submitting to god correctly and causing problems? Of course not. Only Western nations that think diversity is a strength want that.
You can have all the military might in the world and still make decisions that lead to strategic failure.
US and USSR - Run out of Afghanistan to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
US - Run out of Vietnam and Iraq to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
Israel - They've earned a shit ton of war spoils through the wars fought to this point, but they still have an enemy who hates them on their doorstep. Unfortunately for the Israelis, the technological gap has narrowed between themselves and the Muslim states since their last major war. I suspect that is a half the reason why the Gaza invasion has been delayed.
The rest of your post I more or less agree with. I just think that you're giving Israel a pass for their stupidity because you hate the other side so much. What's puzzling to me is that it will affect Americans negatively, and you're still rooting for the destruction of Gaza. Don't know if you've been following Israel's domestic politics, but Bibi is going to get voted out or thrown in jail as soon as the shooting stops. He will be blamed for allowing the attack to happen in the first place. There were massive protests in Israel against Netanyahu in the past year because of idiotic policies like the one above.
What Bibi's done with Hamas clearly falls into the category of "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
You can have all the military might in the world and still make decisions that lead to strategic failure.
US and USSR - Run out of Afghanistan to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
US - Run out of Vietnam and Iraq to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
Israel - They've earned a shit ton of war spoils through the wars fought to this point, but they still have an enemy who hates them on their doorstep. Unfortunately for the Israelis, the technological gap has narrowed between themselves and the Muslim states since their last major war. I suspect that is a half the reason why the Gaza invasion has been delayed.
The rest of your post I more or less agree with. I just think that you're giving Israel a pass for their stupidity because you hate the other side so much. What's puzzling to me is that it will affect Americans negatively, and you're still rooting for the destruction of Gaza. Don't know if you've been following Israel's domestic politics, but Bibi is going to get voted out or thrown in jail as soon as the shooting stops. He will be blamed for allowing the attack to happen in the first place. There were massive protests in Israel against Netanyahu in the past year because of idiotic policies like the one above.
What Bibi's done with Hamas clearly falls into the category of "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
Actually, the US succeeded in Iraq. We still have bases there, and got rid of Sadaam. I don't know how you could call that a failure. In Afghanistan we killed Bin Laden, got rid of Al queda. We never went there to 'take over' Afghanistan. The government was corrupt as hell and was a no win situation so we left. Dumb ass Biden decided to just leave all the equipment there.
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You can have all the military might in the world and still make decisions that lead to strategic failure.
US and USSR - Run out of Afghanistan to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
US - Run out of Vietnam and Iraq to a technologically inferior but more motivated enemy
Israel - They've earned a shit ton of war spoils through the wars fought to this point, but they still have an enemy who hates them on their doorstep. Unfortunately for the Israelis, the technological gap has narrowed between themselves and the Muslim states since their last major war. I suspect that is a half the reason why the Gaza invasion has been delayed.
The rest of your post I more or less agree with. I just think that you're giving Israel a pass for their stupidity because you hate the other side so much. What's puzzling to me is that it will affect Americans negatively, and you're still rooting for the destruction of Gaza. Don't know if you've been following Israel's domestic politics, but Bibi is going to get voted out or thrown in jail as soon as the shooting stops. He will be blamed for allowing the attack to happen in the first place. There were massive protests in Israel against Netanyahu in the past year because of idiotic policies like the one above.
What Bibi's done with Hamas clearly falls into the category of "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
Actually, the US succeeded in Iraq. We still have bases there, and got rid of Sadaam. I don't know how you could call that a failure. In Afghanistan we killed Bin Laden, got rid of Al queda. We never went there to 'take over' Afghanistan. The government was corrupt as hell and was a no win situation so we left. Dumb ass Biden decided to just leave all the equipment there.
Actually, the US succeeded in Iraq. We still have bases there, and got rid of Sadaam. I don't know how you could call that a failure. In Afghanistan we killed Bin Laden, got rid of Al queda. We never went there to 'take over' Afghanistan. The government was corrupt as hell and was a no win situation so we left. Dumb ass Biden decided to just leave all the equipment there.
Unlike the Shah of Iran and Gaddafi in Libya Saddam refused to play ball and threaten to bite the hand that fed and protected him by changing the currency with which the world's second largest oil Reserve was traded from the US dollar to the euro.
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