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  • @vaportrail said:

    Eh, who knows? There could very well have been a weapons depot under that hospital. Even if there was, it doesn't change the outcome. If your mind is already made up, no evidence that comes out is going to change your view. Who did it isn't nearly as important as the real-world consequences of it. 

    Escalation

    Iranian Foreign Minister and diplomatic envoy arrived in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. The Islamic world views Israel's actions as so egregious, that these two countries are willing to stop a 50 year proxy war to meet. (What these two countries decide to do will be the biggest deciding factor for the direction the region goes.) 

    I'm not even talking about just the hospital bombing. There are plenty of questionable to reprehensible actions committed by Israel over the last week and over the last handful of decades 

    And for are very simple minded posters that have a hard (impossible) time with nuance and grey areas... Pointing out these actions by Israel doesn't mean you support Hamas. 

    @mld-woody said:

    I'm not even talking about just the hospital bombing. There are plenty of questionable to reprehensible actions committed by Israel over the last week and over the last handful of decades 

    And for are very simple minded posters that have a hard (impossible) time with nuance and grey areas... Pointing out these actions by Israel doesn't mean you support Hamas. 

    what actions ? links? historical facts?

  • @westside-steve said:

    So just a simple answer my friend, you're the president; it's your call, you have both houses, exactly how do you handle the situation?

    WSS

    Immediately stop all financial/military aid to Israel/Palestine, tell them that financial aid will be withheld until hostilities end. Send some of said aid to East Palestine, Ohio and Texas border patrol to emphasize that my priority is Americans, not Middle Easterners. Recall both carrier task forces from the region and respectfully tell our "greatest ally" that the $3B in aid they've received from us every year for the last 10 years should be sufficient for them to defend themselves AND house all the Gazans they've displaced. 

    I'd be impeached immediately because Congress is full of neocons and neoliberals beholden to the military industrial complex who think that we can afford to fight proxy wars against Russia, Iran, and China at the same time. But hey, not my problem. 

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    @vaportrail said:

    Immediately stop all financial/military aid to Israel/Palestine, tell them that financial aid will be withheld until hostilities end. Send some of said aid to East Palestine, Ohio and Texas border patrol to emphasize that my priority is Americans, not Middle Easterners. Recall both carrier task forces from the region and respectfully tell our "greatest ally" that the $3B in aid they've received from us every year for the last 10 years should be sufficient for them to defend themselves AND house all the Gazans they've displaced. 

    I'd be impeached immediately because Congress is full of neocons and neoliberals beholden to the military industrial complex who think that we can afford to fight proxy wars against Russia, Iran, and China at the same time. But hey, not my problem. 

    That is a fair answer, only superficially. 

    Dig deeper though, and you send Israel into flames, destruction, and millions of cruel deaths. I say that because iran has armed gazan terrorists (hamas, terrorist palestinians) for years, starting immediately after Israel gave up control of gaza FOR PEACE.

       So us not sending any more support to palestinians ...ok, but they win, and radical islam takes over the entire middle east, no going back. Can't undo the Holocaust -

       So, stopping all aid to Israel and palestinians would make iran laugh their asses off. With all of the middle east radicial terrorist based - we would have 9/11's right and left because there would be no stopping them over there.

       So, per your suggestion, the palestinians will be rolling in iran money, and Israel will suffer and die. Then control of the entire middle east would make the terrorists extremely wealthy, and the whole rest of the world would not be safe from terrorism. That is a pandora's box you would be opening, that can never be closed again, without a major WWIII of gigantic destructive proportions never seen on this earth.

    Not much of a solution when you think further on it.

  • How do you Biden voters like your boy now? He's got us funding not one but two indefinite wars while the American people get shit on. At least he hasn't had any scanda...uh, wait..  at least he hasn't said anything stu...um...at least he hasn't mocked a reporter?

  • @mld-woody said:

    I'm not even talking about just the hospital bombing. There are plenty of questionable to reprehensible actions committed by Israel over the last week and over the last handful of decades 

    And for are very simple minded posters that have a hard (impossible) time with nuance and grey areas... Pointing out these actions by Israel doesn't mean you support Hamas. 

    what actions ? links? historical facts?

    @calfoxwc said:

    what actions ? links? historical facts?

    woodpecker don't need no stinking historical facts or links.

  • How do you Biden voters like your boy now? He's got us funding not one but two indefinite wars while the American people get shit on. At least he hasn't had any scanda...uh, wait..  at least he hasn't said anything stu...um...at least he hasn't mocked a reporter?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    How do you Biden voters like your boy now? He's got us funding not one but two indefinite wars while the American people get shit on. At least he hasn't had any scanda...uh, wait..  at least he hasn't said anything stu...um...at least he hasn't mocked a reporter?

    His conference with Bibi was something else. 

  • Escalation

    Pentagon is reporting that 20 American servicemen were injured in drone attacks at a base near an oil field in Syria over the past week. 
    Finnish-Estonian gas pipeline was destroyed. A Chinese vessel was reported to be in the area. 
    Jerusalem Post reporting that today was the largest rocket barrage from Gaza since initiation of hostilities. 
    IDF forces engaged an Egyptian border outpost. Israel expresses regret at the mistake. 
    President of Jordan makes clear statement that the Gazan refugees cannot come to Jordan or Egypt

    De-escalation

    Some hostages being released via diplomatic means
    Last week, USA vetoed a UNSC resolution for a ceasefire. This week, US Sec'y of State Blinken now calls for humanitarian pauses to allow people to leave Gaza

  • on the news, they had radical civilians demanding to be bombed because they refused to leave.

    iran has been planning this for many years. they went for it because our America is divided, disrupted, perverted, and leaderless, and per obaMao commie - a lot of his radical Muslim oriented staffers are apparently running the biden wh.

    Meanwhile, this police state gov is allowing terrorists to illegally cross our borders etc etc etc, drug cartel members, etc etc etc......

    sure looks like creating so much crisis in America they can declare a national emergency, get past our Constitution, and take power permanently, to me.

    Won't work, if I have to defend myself, I can throw an empty root beer can with great Real American gusto.

    Meanwhile.....in obaMao and biden's world:

    https://redstate.com/beckynoble/2023/10/24/dinesh-dsouzas-police-state-you-will-not-look-at-government-the-same-way-after-seeing-this-film-n2165491

  • Israeli ground forces now conducting limited border raids into Gaza
    White House spokesperson responds to drone attacks on US soldiers in Syria/Iraq - We will respond "at the time of our choosing, and manner of our choosing."
    THAAD and Patriot missile batteries are being sent to various countries across the region, including many of the USA's Arabic allies
    Worldwide travel advisory for US citizens abroad, everywhere

  • US Secretary of Defense confirms that US airstrikes have retaliated against the drone strikes on American bses and have targeted Iranian-backed militia sites in Syria. 

  • Missile explodes in Egyptian city on the Red Sea coast, injuring 6. Possibilities include IDF (seems less likely imo), Hamas, or a cruise missile from Yemen. 

  • Massive rally of over 100k people in support of Palestine occurring in London today.
    Germans are arresting protestors who are supporting Palestine. 
    Turkish President Erdogan also holds a massive rally in support of Palestine. Calls Israel "occupiers."
    --Turkey has the most formidable military in the region. If they enter the war to protect Gazans, then you can probably put a fork in NATO and the EU. 

  • US Secretary of Defense confirms that US airstrikes have retaliated against the drone strikes on American bses and have targeted Iranian-backed militia sites in Syria. 

    @vaportrail said:

    US Secretary of Defense confirms that US airstrikes have retaliated against the drone strikes on American bses and have targeted Iranian-backed militia sites in Syria. 

    Yep.  Hit two empty warehouses.  Good Job Demented Joe!  Iran is shaking in fear!!!1

  • Massive rally of over 100k people in support of Palestine occurring in London today.
    Germans are arresting protestors who are supporting Palestine. 
    Turkish President Erdogan also holds a massive rally in support of Palestine. Calls Israel "occupiers."
    --Turkey has the most formidable military in the region. If they enter the war to protect Gazans, then you can probably put a fork in NATO and the EU. 

    @vaportrail said:

    Massive rally of over 100k people in support of Palestine occurring in London today.
    Germans are arresting protestors who are supporting Palestine. 
    Turkish President Erdogan also holds a massive rally in support of Palestine. Calls Israel "occupiers."
    --Turkey has the most formidable military in the region. If they enter the war to protect Gazans, then you can probably put a fork in NATO and the EU. 

    Turkey should never have been permitted into the EU or NATO.

  • Elon Musk making Starlink available to Gaza humanitarian organizations. Israel is not happy with this decision and announced they will be suspending cooperation with the project. 

  • Israel has recalled its envoy to Turkey after Turkish President Erdogan's pro-Palestine rally

  • Israel has recalled its envoy to Turkey after Turkish President Erdogan's pro-Palestine rally

    @vaportrail said:

    Israel has recalled its envoy to Turkey after Turkish President Erdogan's pro-Palestine rally

    Are you on vacation?

  • @vaportrail said:

    Israel has recalled its envoy to Turkey after Turkish President Erdogan's pro-Palestine rally

    Are you on vacation?

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    Are you on vacation?

    i wish

  • IDF armor incursions into Gaza from the north and trying to split it in half from the East.
    IDF has targeted Jabalia refugee camp in Gaza with bunker busters. IDF claiming high value targets underneath.
    Reported picture of Jabilia aftermath below:

    Palestinians search for casualties at the site of Israeli strikes on houses in Jabalia refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip, October 31, 2023. REUTERS/Anas al-Shareef

    The West isn't going to be able to stomach much more of this. I will be shocked if this doesn't push Hezbollah to start a major offensive. 

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    Source: Data for Progress Poll
    Most Americans think a ceasefire is a good idea. What I find most surprising about this poll is that over half of registered Republicans agree with the ceasefire. I expect the number in support of a ceasefire will continue to go up as Israel continues to use 2000lb bombs in residential areas (I know, you may as well call me Nostradamus). 

  • Hamas tunnels were underneath the so called 'refugee camp' which was all buildings by the way.  (designated 'refugee camp' by the UN).