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OMG, -another- shooting rampage...in Maine

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  • "there's nothing we can do" says the only country where this regularly happens 

  • I went to Maine over the summer. My first time there, neat place. Went to Rockland. The LAND of ROCK.

    I was impressed with Maine. Beautiful place and really cool people. They all stop at crosswalks.

    Like if they’re driving, and you’re walking, and you square your shoulders like you’re going to cross the street, they stop. It’s pretty cool. 

    No one seems to be in a hurry there either. I’m most surprised something like this could happen there. Very sad. 

  • This is never going to be solved. Partly because this is an animal that they don't fully understand. Every mass shooter is different, has different motives and different mindsets. There are thousands upon thousands of potential mass shooters out there that already have the weapons they need. This is something that is going to take generations to solve.

  • N Neo

    This is never going to be solved. Partly because this is an animal that they don't fully understand. Every mass shooter is different, has different motives and different mindsets. There are thousands upon thousands of potential mass shooters out there that already have the weapons they need. This is something that is going to take generations to solve.

    @neo said:

    This is never going to be solved. Partly because this is an animal that they don't fully understand. Every mass shooter is different, has different motives and different mindsets. There are thousands upon thousands of potential mass shooters out there that already have the weapons they need. This is something that is going to take generations to solve.

    Try by starting to come back to reality men can't be women, women can't be men...men can't get pregnant.

    Stop talking about sex to preschoolers, keep drag Queens out of schools!

  • N Neo

    This is never going to be solved. Partly because this is an animal that they don't fully understand. Every mass shooter is different, has different motives and different mindsets. There are thousands upon thousands of potential mass shooters out there that already have the weapons they need. This is something that is going to take generations to solve.

    @neo said:

    This is never going to be solved. 

    Except all of those countries where it isn't an issue 

  • @neo said:

    This is never going to be solved. 

    Except all of those countries where it isn't an issue 

    @mld-woody said:

    Except all of those countries where it isn't an issue 

    We shouldn't aspire to be nanny states like them. 

  • @neo said:

    This is never going to be solved. 

    Except all of those countries where it isn't an issue 

    @mld-woody said:

    Except all of those countries where it isn't an issue 

    Move your progressive ass out of here then.  This country is for real mericans.

  • Some people have come to take their freedom for granted.

  • JaxJ Jax

    I'm about to order more 30 round magazines for mine if it makes you feel better.

    @jax said:

    I'm about to order more 30 round magazines for mine if it makes you feel better.

    Why not order up a few 100 round drum magazines while you're at it if you can still find them?  They'd be great for taking down a herd of buffalo or elk.  😁  

    @mld-woody said:

    "there's nothing we can do" says the only country where this regularly happens 

    Exactly Woody. It's the NRA approach, just throw up your hands and yell "THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO!!!"  And it's sort of true. Even if there was an immediate ban on the sale of AR-15s and their cousins, there's tens of millions of them already out there. I'm not buying the solution to gun violence is for more of the populace to arm themselves. This isn't the Wild West Tombstone Territory for God's sake. 

    @neo said:

    This is never going to be solved. Partly because this is an animal that they don't fully understand. Every mass shooter is different, has different motives and different mindsets. There are thousands upon thousands of potential mass shooters out there that already have the weapons they need. This is something that is going to take generations to solve.

    Flag laws and mental competency hasn't helped much. IIRC one of the mass shooters had no criminal record, and the neighbors thought he was Mr. Goody Two Shoes. 

  • @neo said:

    This is never going to be solved. Partly because this is an animal that they don't fully understand. Every mass shooter is different, has different motives and different mindsets. There are thousands upon thousands of potential mass shooters out there that already have the weapons they need. This is something that is going to take generations to solve.

    Try by starting to come back to reality men can't be women, women can't be men...men can't get pregnant.

    Stop talking about sex to preschoolers, keep drag Queens out of schools!

    @vambo said:

    Try by starting to come back to reality men can't be women, women can't be men...men can't get pregnant.

    Stop talking about sex to preschoolers, keep drag Queens out of schools!

    And that has exactly what to do with mass shootings Vambo?  

  • @jax said:

    I'm about to order more 30 round magazines for mine if it makes you feel better.

    Why not order up a few 100 round drum magazines while you're at it if you can still find them?  They'd be great for taking down a herd of buffalo or elk.  😁  

    @mld-woody said:

    "there's nothing we can do" says the only country where this regularly happens 

    Exactly Woody. It's the NRA approach, just throw up your hands and yell "THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO!!!"  And it's sort of true. Even if there was an immediate ban on the sale of AR-15s and their cousins, there's tens of millions of them already out there. I'm not buying the solution to gun violence is for more of the populace to arm themselves. This isn't the Wild West Tombstone Territory for God's sake. 

    @neo said:

    This is never going to be solved. Partly because this is an animal that they don't fully understand. Every mass shooter is different, has different motives and different mindsets. There are thousands upon thousands of potential mass shooters out there that already have the weapons they need. This is something that is going to take generations to solve.

    Flag laws and mental competency hasn't helped much. IIRC one of the mass shooters had no criminal record, and the neighbors thought he was Mr. Goody Two Shoes. 

    @hoorta said:

    Why not order up a few 100 round drum magazines while you're at it if you can still find them?  They'd be great for taking down a herd of buffalo or elk.  😁  

    Guns sole purpose is not just for hunting.

    I personally don't need 100 rd drums however I don't fault anyone that does.

  • @jax said:

    So in Mr. Johnson's opinion, what this country needs is for everyone to have a come to Jesus moment. ?

    And if we ban guns, people will just use their cars as deadly weapons. Maybe he forgot that sort of thing has already happened right here in the good old USA.  🙂  

  • @jax said:

    So in Mr. Johnson's opinion, what this country needs is for everyone to have a come to Jesus moment. ?

    And if we ban guns, people will just use their cars as deadly weapons. Maybe he forgot that sort of thing has already happened right here in the good old USA.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    So in Mr. Johnson's opinion, what this country needs is for everyone to have a come to Jesus moment. ?

    And if we ban guns, people will just use their cars as deadly weapons. Maybe he forgot that sort of thing has already happened right here in the good old USA.  🙂  

    Look you have guns and you like to go hunting. Not because you need the food but because in some sick fucked up way you like to hurt living creatures. I realize it's pretty widespread hobby. But regardless of my snark only a comprehensive and strict across the board ban will make any difference.

    There were laws in place in Maine that weren't followed so who cares about more laws? Either man up and support the ban or stfu. It really is as simple as that.

    Holding people accountable for actual acts of evil isn't in the Democrat Party playbook. And since you have decided to toe that line..

    WSS

  • @jax said:

    So in Mr. Johnson's opinion, what this country needs is for everyone to have a come to Jesus moment. ?

    And if we ban guns, people will just use their cars as deadly weapons. Maybe he forgot that sort of thing has already happened right here in the good old USA.  🙂  

    @hoorta said:

    So in Mr. Johnson's opinion, what this country needs is for everyone to have a come to Jesus moment. ?

    And if we ban guns, people will just use their cars as deadly weapons. Maybe he forgot that sort of thing has already happened right here in the good old USA.  🙂  

    That's speaker Johnson.

  • @hoorta said:

    So in Mr. Johnson's opinion, what this country needs is for everyone to have a come to Jesus moment. ?

    And if we ban guns, people will just use their cars as deadly weapons. Maybe he forgot that sort of thing has already happened right here in the good old USA.  🙂  

    That's speaker Johnson.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    That's speaker Johnson.

    Hey Die Hard how big are the rounds in an ak-47? What are they similar to; I thought they were like a 22? Yes? No?

    WSS

  • Nope.

    Is 7.62x39mm AMMUNITION ACCURATE?

    I think the first thing that we need to do is to dispel the longstanding opinion that 7.62x39mm ammunition is not accurate. That is simply not the truth. The first thing that non-fans of the 7.62x39mm will state to start their argument of the inaccuracy of the round is that the round does not have a flat trajectory. I'm not going to argue with that too much for now. It actually depends on the load. And depending upon that load, by the time it reaches the 250-yard range, the bullet may drop 8 plus inches. Usually not great for a factory load, past 300 yards, it's okay. It was never actually ever meant to be used as a long-range cartridge. That doesn't mean that it won't travel beyond 300 yards, it simply means that it has lost some velocity at that range and may not penetrate with the same punch as it does at closer ranges. Substituting accurate range past 300 yards, you will get a round that has light recoil and the ability to deliver an accurate and powerful punch to its target within 250 yards or so, and that's not bad for this larger round. The 7.62x39mm round actually has very similar ballistics to a 30-30 Winchester round. 7.62x39mm's have around eighty percent of the energy of a 30-30 round upon leaving the muzzle. It also has a comparable trajectory.

    https://www.classicfirearms.com/news/general/what-kind-of-ammo-does-the-ak-47-use/

    The .223 round used in ARs has the same diameter as a .22, but packs more punch with more lead.

  • JaxJ Jax

    Nope.

    Is 7.62x39mm AMMUNITION ACCURATE?

    I think the first thing that we need to do is to dispel the longstanding opinion that 7.62x39mm ammunition is not accurate. That is simply not the truth. The first thing that non-fans of the 7.62x39mm will state to start their argument of the inaccuracy of the round is that the round does not have a flat trajectory. I'm not going to argue with that too much for now. It actually depends on the load. And depending upon that load, by the time it reaches the 250-yard range, the bullet may drop 8 plus inches. Usually not great for a factory load, past 300 yards, it's okay. It was never actually ever meant to be used as a long-range cartridge. That doesn't mean that it won't travel beyond 300 yards, it simply means that it has lost some velocity at that range and may not penetrate with the same punch as it does at closer ranges. Substituting accurate range past 300 yards, you will get a round that has light recoil and the ability to deliver an accurate and powerful punch to its target within 250 yards or so, and that's not bad for this larger round. The 7.62x39mm round actually has very similar ballistics to a 30-30 Winchester round. 7.62x39mm's have around eighty percent of the energy of a 30-30 round upon leaving the muzzle. It also has a comparable trajectory.

    https://www.classicfirearms.com/news/general/what-kind-of-ammo-does-the-ak-47-use/

    The .223 round used in ARs has the same diameter as a .22, but packs more punch with more lead.

    @jax said:

    Nope.

    Is 7.62x39mm AMMUNITION ACCURATE?

    I think the first thing that we need to do is to dispel the longstanding opinion that 7.62x39mm ammunition is not accurate. That is simply not the truth. The first thing that non-fans of the 7.62x39mm will state to start their argument of the inaccuracy of the round is that the round does not have a flat trajectory. I'm not going to argue with that too much for now. It actually depends on the load. And depending upon that load, by the time it reaches the 250-yard range, the bullet may drop 8 plus inches. Usually not great for a factory load, past 300 yards, it's okay. It was never actually ever meant to be used as a long-range cartridge. That doesn't mean that it won't travel beyond 300 yards, it simply means that it has lost some velocity at that range and may not penetrate with the same punch as it does at closer ranges. Substituting accurate range past 300 yards, you will get a round that has light recoil and the ability to deliver an accurate and powerful punch to its target within 250 yards or so, and that's not bad for this larger round. The 7.62x39mm round actually has very similar ballistics to a 30-30 Winchester round. 7.62x39mm's have around eighty percent of the energy of a 30-30 round upon leaving the muzzle. It also has a comparable trajectory.

    https://www.classicfirearms.com/news/general/what-kind-of-ammo-does-the-ak-47-use/

    The .223 round used in ARs has the same diameter as a .22, but packs more punch with more lead.

    Military uses 5.56 NATO rounds.  They tumble and blow the fuck out of what they hit.  AK uses as above.

  • I made sure my AR can use either .223 or 5.56