Watson's shoulder
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I love reading this thread, knowing the Browns are actually two games above .500;
Its almost like, and I could be crazy, there are people on here who actually enjoy being miserable.
I'm probably wrong, though.
I love reading this thread, knowing the Browns are actually two games above .500;
Its almost like, and I could be crazy, there are people on here who actually enjoy being miserable.
I'm probably wrong, though.
God bless ya! I was trying to eat soup when I read this. Key word in that sentence is "trying" and I LOST. If I ever make it to Ohio again - I owe you a freakin banquet. That or some of that hot pizza you posted about.
How in God's blazes is this team 4-2? The good news is the Browns have been working very diligently on understanding what targets downfield are teammates and what ones are not. They've also been trying to inform PJ that throwing across his body might get him replaced with Carson Wentz-wrong as early as next Monday. The Salvation Army in Eastern Ohio has agreed to paying a very generous signing bonus if necessary.
Stay tuned? Why not, we're 4-2 by accident...
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It's a frustrating situation to be in. Especially at a time our defense kicks ass.
If they keep playing at that caliber, we don't need an elite QB. Just someone who can keep the chains moving most of the time without mistakes. Colts pretty much only had to stop our run and we still went down the field to score. Even without penalties we were still moving.
I had a shoulder injury that prevented me from doing pull ups or military presses, other than that I was fine. I imagine Watsons shoulder is absolutely limiting his throws even with whatever they inject him with. As I always say with my lifting or running injuries, it's best to just get the rest and heal in a short period than push it and create a chronic injury. If he was able to come in and try playing I'd say he's not far off from coming back. I'd rather him miss a couple more games than be out the rest of the season.
Who knows what's really going on though? In the meantime we need to find a QB we can lean on the rest of the season.
It's a frustrating situation to be in. Especially at a time our defense kicks ass.
That about sums it up. Frustrating. We just can't seem to have both sides of the ball be good at the same time.
...the organization tries so hard to put a good QB behind the Center. But they just can't seem to do it.
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It's a frustrating situation to be in. Especially at a time our defense kicks ass.
That about sums it up. Frustrating. We just can't seem to have both sides of the ball be good at the same time.
...the organization tries so hard to put a good QB behind the Center. But they just can't seem to do it.
That about sums it up. Frustrating. We just can't seem to have both sides of the ball be good at the same time.
...the organization tries so hard to put a good QB behind the Center. But they just can't seem to do it.
Bad luck of the draw.
The Browns tank two seasons in a row and end up with Baker. The Bengals then do it once and end up with Joe Burrow.
Hence, why we are in the QB position we are in now.
And I've been saying for a while, Watson is as good as done this season. Sure, he might come back and play some, but if he has rotator cuff problems, his arm strength and accuracy is going to be poor. At the least the Browns should put him on the short term IR and go and get Brissett or Flacco or Wentz. PJ Walker and DTR at this point is a recipe for a complete collapse down the stretch. (Not that Brissett/Flacco/Wentz are guaranteed to send the Browns to the playoffs, but at least there is a chance of somewhat competent QB play)
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That about sums it up. Frustrating. We just can't seem to have both sides of the ball be good at the same time.
...the organization tries so hard to put a good QB behind the Center. But they just can't seem to do it.
Bad luck of the draw.
The Browns tank two seasons in a row and end up with Baker. The Bengals then do it once and end up with Joe Burrow.
Hence, why we are in the QB position we are in now.
And I've been saying for a while, Watson is as good as done this season. Sure, he might come back and play some, but if he has rotator cuff problems, his arm strength and accuracy is going to be poor. At the least the Browns should put him on the short term IR and go and get Brissett or Flacco or Wentz. PJ Walker and DTR at this point is a recipe for a complete collapse down the stretch. (Not that Brissett/Flacco/Wentz are guaranteed to send the Browns to the playoffs, but at least there is a chance of somewhat competent QB play)
Watson is as good as done this season. Sure, he might come back and play some, but if he has rotator cuff problems, his arm strength and accuracy is going to be poor. At the least the Browns should put him on the short term IR and go and get Brissett or Flacco or Wentz.
Man, you really think so? I go back and forth. I can't let myself believe that he's done for the year. Medical professionals HAVE to get the swelling down and his power up, right? No structural damage, no surgery required, and to me this means he's eventually going to be fine. Does he need IR? I think he probably DID, but we're past that now.
I'm not a doctor, I know nothing about rotator cuff injuries other than they suck. Apparently they take forever to heal, but they DO heal. If Watson is throwing with force and isn't hurting, he'll play. I think there's hope for that.
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Watson is as good as done this season. Sure, he might come back and play some, but if he has rotator cuff problems, his arm strength and accuracy is going to be poor. At the least the Browns should put him on the short term IR and go and get Brissett or Flacco or Wentz.
Man, you really think so? I go back and forth. I can't let myself believe that he's done for the year. Medical professionals HAVE to get the swelling down and his power up, right? No structural damage, no surgery required, and to me this means he's eventually going to be fine. Does he need IR? I think he probably DID, but we're past that now.
I'm not a doctor, I know nothing about rotator cuff injuries other than they suck. Apparently they take forever to heal, but they DO heal. If Watson is throwing with force and isn't hurting, he'll play. I think there's hope for that.
Man, you really think so? I go back and forth. I can't let myself believe that he's done for the year. Medical professionals HAVE to get the swelling down and his power up, right? No structural damage, no surgery required, and to me this means he's eventually going to be fine. Does he need IR? I think he probably DID, but we're past that now.
I'm not a doctor, I know nothing about rotator cuff injuries other than they suck. Apparently they take forever to heal, but they DO heal. If Watson is throwing with force and isn't hurting, he'll play. I think there's hope for that.
Yes, I really think so.
That's why I wrote it. ?
On our local sports radio station, Garrett Bush mentioned that he talked to Bernie Kosar recently about Watson's injury, and Kosar said that when he suffered a rotator cuff injury that his arm strength was sapped and his accuracy went to poop. He didn't seem positive that Watson was going to be able to play much, or well if he does, this season.
When it came out that he hurt his rotator cuff after the Titans game, I said "Oh poopypants!" jiggins. That's right:
OH POOPYPANTS!
That meant that I was concerned.
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Man, you really think so? I go back and forth. I can't let myself believe that he's done for the year. Medical professionals HAVE to get the swelling down and his power up, right? No structural damage, no surgery required, and to me this means he's eventually going to be fine. Does he need IR? I think he probably DID, but we're past that now.
I'm not a doctor, I know nothing about rotator cuff injuries other than they suck. Apparently they take forever to heal, but they DO heal. If Watson is throwing with force and isn't hurting, he'll play. I think there's hope for that.
Yes, I really think so.
That's why I wrote it. ?
On our local sports radio station, Garrett Bush mentioned that he talked to Bernie Kosar recently about Watson's injury, and Kosar said that when he suffered a rotator cuff injury that his arm strength was sapped and his accuracy went to poop. He didn't seem positive that Watson was going to be able to play much, or well if he does, this season.
When it came out that he hurt his rotator cuff after the Titans game, I said "Oh poopypants!" jiggins. That's right:
OH POOPYPANTS!
That meant that I was concerned.
Yes, I really think so.
That's why I wrote it. ?
On our local sports radio station, Garrett Bush mentioned that he talked to Bernie Kosar recently about Watson's injury, and Kosar said that when he suffered a rotator cuff injury that his arm strength was sapped and his accuracy went to poop. He didn't seem positive that Watson was going to be able to play much, or well if he does, this season.
When it came out that he hurt his rotator cuff after the Titans game, I said "Oh poopypants!" jiggins. That's right:
OH POOPYPANTS!
That meant that I was concerned.
I assume the med staff is confident Watson will be able to return to normal this season, otherwise it’d be a crime to leave this season in PJ walkers hands.
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Watson is as good as done this season. Sure, he might come back and play some, but if he has rotator cuff problems, his arm strength and accuracy is going to be poor. At the least the Browns should put him on the short term IR and go and get Brissett or Flacco or Wentz.
Man, you really think so? I go back and forth. I can't let myself believe that he's done for the year. Medical professionals HAVE to get the swelling down and his power up, right? No structural damage, no surgery required, and to me this means he's eventually going to be fine. Does he need IR? I think he probably DID, but we're past that now.
I'm not a doctor, I know nothing about rotator cuff injuries other than they suck. Apparently they take forever to heal, but they DO heal. If Watson is throwing with force and isn't hurting, he'll play. I think there's hope for that.
Man, you really think so? I go back and forth. I can't let myself believe that he's done for the year. Medical professionals HAVE to get the swelling down and his power up, right? No structural damage, no surgery required, and to me this means he's eventually going to be fine. Does he need IR? I think he probably DID, but we're past that now.
I'm not a doctor, I know nothing about rotator cuff injuries other than they suck. Apparently they take forever to heal, but they DO heal. If Watson is throwing with force and isn't hurting, he'll play. I think there's hope for that.
Prepare for being done for good... He's lost it dude... He's done...
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That about sums it up. Frustrating. We just can't seem to have both sides of the ball be good at the same time.
...the organization tries so hard to put a good QB behind the Center. But they just can't seem to do it.
Bad luck of the draw.
The Browns tank two seasons in a row and end up with Baker. The Bengals then do it once and end up with Joe Burrow.
Hence, why we are in the QB position we are in now.
And I've been saying for a while, Watson is as good as done this season. Sure, he might come back and play some, but if he has rotator cuff problems, his arm strength and accuracy is going to be poor. At the least the Browns should put him on the short term IR and go and get Brissett or Flacco or Wentz. PJ Walker and DTR at this point is a recipe for a complete collapse down the stretch. (Not that Brissett/Flacco/Wentz are guaranteed to send the Browns to the playoffs, but at least there is a chance of somewhat competent QB play)
Bad luck of the draw.
The Browns tank two seasons in a row and end up with Baker. The Bengals then do it once and end up with Joe Burrow.
Hence, why we are in the QB position we are in now.
And I've been saying for a while, Watson is as good as done this season. Sure, he might come back and play some, but if he has rotator cuff problems, his arm strength and accuracy is going to be poor. At the least the Browns should put him on the short term IR and go and get Brissett or Flacco or Wentz. PJ Walker and DTR at this point is a recipe for a complete collapse down the stretch. (Not that Brissett/Flacco/Wentz are guaranteed to send the Browns to the playoffs, but at least there is a chance of somewhat competent QB play)
Yeah, sucks that the Bengals lucked out getting Burrow. I'm not so certain Watson is done for the season though. He's getting two whole weeks of rest, so we'll see. If he's still not ready to go against the Cardinals 11\5 (I'll be at the game BTW) you may well be right. They said a six week injury, and Arizona is week six.
Said it earlier, stating PJ against the Seahawks is all but throwing in the towel for a loss... However, looking at the rest of the schedule- call me an optimist- I see at least seven games the Browns could potentially win (not with PJ at the controls though) = 11-6. That should be good enough to make the playoffs.
I assume the med staff is confident Watson will be able to return to normal this season, otherwise it’d be a crime to leave this season in PJ walkers hands.
Crime indeed bw. Somehow on my tablet I can sneak behind the Cleveland.com paywall to see what one of my High School alums (Cleveland Benedictine) Terry Pluto is up to. Quote from Terry "I'm getting carpet bombed with emails from fans asking why the Browns aren't going hard after Jacoby Brissett". I have to wonder about that too- before the trade deadline coming up soon. According to an article I saw, the Browns would only have to pay him peanuts- $3 million left on his one year contract. The only question is what the Commanders asking price is going to be.
Desperate times require desperate measures. In 2024 the Browns have Their second and third round picks, two fifths, two sixths, and two sevenths. I'd happily offer Washington both our fifths, and if I have to- our third. Stay tuned. A LOT is going to depend on the Browns medical staff's informed opinion exactly how badly Watson's shoulder is damaged. If they're 100% confident that this is going to resolve sooner than later, Berry is unlikely to hit the panic button making a trade. Though he should anyway- another Deshaun injury down the road, we're probably not making the playoffs relying on PJ or DTR running the offense. ?
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Yes, I really think so.
That's why I wrote it. ?
On our local sports radio station, Garrett Bush mentioned that he talked to Bernie Kosar recently about Watson's injury, and Kosar said that when he suffered a rotator cuff injury that his arm strength was sapped and his accuracy went to poop. He didn't seem positive that Watson was going to be able to play much, or well if he does, this season.
When it came out that he hurt his rotator cuff after the Titans game, I said "Oh poopypants!" jiggins. That's right:
OH POOPYPANTS!
That meant that I was concerned.
I assume the med staff is confident Watson will be able to return to normal this season, otherwise it’d be a crime to leave this season in PJ walkers hands.
I assume the med staff is confident Watson will be able to return to normal this season, otherwise it’d be a crime to leave this season in PJ walkers hands.
What is the medical staff's status on him? Last I knew they claimed that he was cleared to play.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
What is the medical staff's status on him? Last I knew they claimed that he was cleared to play.
Jimmy's business clearly isn't using doctors that graduated anywhere near the top of their class. Keep in mind, there are people out there practicing medicine that drafted at the bottom of their class. Now, take a guess employs 1 of them? Anyway, throwing a football with that kind of injury against NFL closing speeds - seems only advisable in a Jimmy Haslam business. Like Dutch brought up - Kosar has this injury and it evaporated his arm strength and accuracy. Medical staff that doesn't understand this when they clear a QB to start - aren't REALLY protecting the guaranteed 230 million $ investment.
Now, what can be done if you DO risk further injury by playing him? According to the Cleveland Browns - What's everyone worried about? We're gonna protect him with Jed Wills as our blind side LT. Yeah gee, what could possibly go wrong? Every time Watson gets hit and planted by someone he doesn't see coming from his left - he lands REALLY hard on his right shoulder. Make sense? Should Left Tackle remain the weakest spot on the Browns' offensive line every Sunday if they WANT/NEED to protect their 230 million $ investment?
Well, now that the Browns spent all that money on 1 guy they've had 2 off-seasons to come up with a protection plan for - Jed Wills remains the starting Left Tackle for the Cleveland Browns for his 4th consecutive season. This is the only franchise that thinks eye ball tests and film are overrated.
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What is the medical staff's status on him? Last I knew they claimed that he was cleared to play.
From Team Medical Staff ... ?
Watson traveled, listed as OUT throwing shoulder.
This is still our year Browns fans !
The Great ? of Gipper will arise from the Pumpkin patch, swinging his gavel over Browns fans heads quoting.
"This Browns team is still 4-2, 6th in the playoff hunt, but yet we still post Bitches, moans & groans daily" ?
This Team refuses to listen to the haters noise !
Hopkins for a game winner 23- 20.... in Sea-nag-land week 8
LET'S GO BROWNS !
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
What is the medical staff's status on him? Last I knew they claimed that he was cleared to play.
From Team Medical Staff ... ?
Watson traveled, listed as OUT throwing shoulder.
This is still our year Browns fans !
The Great ? of Gipper will arise from the Pumpkin patch, swinging his gavel over Browns fans heads quoting.
"This Browns team is still 4-2, 6th in the playoff hunt, but yet we still post Bitches, moans & groans daily" ?
This Team refuses to listen to the haters noise !
Hopkins for a game winner 23- 20.... in Sea-nag-land week 8
LET'S GO BROWNS !
From Team Medical Staff ... ?
Watson traveled, listed as OUT throwing shoulder.
This is still our year Browns fans !
The Great ? of Gipper will arise from the Pumpkin patch, swinging his gavel over Browns fans heads quoting.
"This Browns team is still 4-2, 6th in the playoff hunt, but yet we still post Bitches, moans & groans daily" ?
This Team refuses to listen to the haters noise !
Hopkins for a game winner 23- 20.... in Sea-nag-land week 8
LET'S GO BROWNS !
But was it wise to have Watson travel with the team? Unless he's pretty much done with his rehab, and they've just giving him exercises he can do on the plane and in the hotel.
Regarding the sourpusses around here... They way they're bitching, you'd think this team is 0-6 heading for 0-17. ?
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From Team Medical Staff ... ?
Watson traveled, listed as OUT throwing shoulder.
This is still our year Browns fans !
The Great ? of Gipper will arise from the Pumpkin patch, swinging his gavel over Browns fans heads quoting.
"This Browns team is still 4-2, 6th in the playoff hunt, but yet we still post Bitches, moans & groans daily" ?
This Team refuses to listen to the haters noise !
Hopkins for a game winner 23- 20.... in Sea-nag-land week 8
LET'S GO BROWNS !
But was it wise to have Watson travel with the team? Unless he's pretty much done with his rehab, and they've just giving him exercises he can do on the plane and in the hotel.
Regarding the sourpusses around here... They way they're bitching, you'd think this team is 0-6 heading for 0-17. ?
But was it wise to have Watson travel with the team? Unless he's pretty much done with his rehab, and they've just giving him exercises he can do on the plane and in the hotel.
Regarding the sourpusses around here... They way they're bitching, you'd think this team is 0-6 heading for 0-17. ?
Send the sourpusses to a Tampa Bay Bucs message board. ?
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From Team Medical Staff ... ?
Watson traveled, listed as OUT throwing shoulder.
This is still our year Browns fans !
The Great ? of Gipper will arise from the Pumpkin patch, swinging his gavel over Browns fans heads quoting.
"This Browns team is still 4-2, 6th in the playoff hunt, but yet we still post Bitches, moans & groans daily" ?
This Team refuses to listen to the haters noise !
Hopkins for a game winner 23- 20.... in Sea-nag-land week 8
LET'S GO BROWNS !
But was it wise to have Watson travel with the team? Unless he's pretty much done with his rehab, and they've just giving him exercises he can do on the plane and in the hotel.
Regarding the sourpusses around here... They way they're bitching, you'd think this team is 0-6 heading for 0-17. ?
But was it wise to have Watson travel with the team? Unless he's pretty much done with his rehab, and they've just giving him exercises he can do on the plane and in the hotel.
It'd be wise if we played Zona at Zona next week, and the team stayed out there ..
but, This should keep the media/fans from _______ shoulder thero'pee jokes
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From Team Medical Staff ... ?
Watson traveled, listed as OUT throwing shoulder.
This is still our year Browns fans !
The Great ? of Gipper will arise from the Pumpkin patch, swinging his gavel over Browns fans heads quoting.
"This Browns team is still 4-2, 6th in the playoff hunt, but yet we still post Bitches, moans & groans daily" ?
This Team refuses to listen to the haters noise !
Hopkins for a game winner 23- 20.... in Sea-nag-land week 8
LET'S GO BROWNS !
But was it wise to have Watson travel with the team? Unless he's pretty much done with his rehab, and they've just giving him exercises he can do on the plane and in the hotel.
Regarding the sourpusses around here... They way they're bitching, you'd think this team is 0-6 heading for 0-17. ?
Regarding the sourpusses around here... They way they're bitching, you'd think this team is 0-6 heading for 0-17. ?
If the team doesn’t make the playoffs, it really doesn’t matter what the W/L record will be.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Ready for the week of Watson not practicing, Watson not speaking to the media, Watson whining to the media that of course he wants to play and he worked very hard to get here, PJ Walker announced starter against Arizona.
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If the team doesn’t make the playoffs, it really doesn’t matter what the W/L record will be.
Bingo! We have already wasted almost 3 seasons catering to DW... Time to pony up!
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But was it wise to have Watson travel with the team? Unless he's pretty much done with his rehab, and they've just giving him exercises he can do on the plane and in the hotel.
Regarding the sourpusses around here... They way they're bitching, you'd think this team is 0-6 heading for 0-17. ?
Send the sourpusses to a Tampa Bay Bucs message board. ?
●---> Send the sourpusses to a Tampa Bay Bucs message board. ?
That might be a good idea ! Meanwhile. GO BROWNS ! They have a game to play this Sunday at 1:00 pm.
Or would they prefer the. 1996- 1998 plan with -0- games on board for three consecutive years ?
●---> I'll take play ball this Sunday.
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JP Finlay@JPFinlayNBCSJosh Harris ok’d a James Harden trade last night, what comes today? Talked w a bunch of people across league and Montez Sweat trade seems most likely, especially if new contract on table. Multiple teams interested w NFC South a major player. Also been told Cleveland chasing Show moreMaybe CLE gets Brisket before 4pm, to start the ultimate fan-fiction timeline. Jacoby comes in, fans roar, he goes 3-0 against AZ, BAL, PIT, Watson goes on season-ending IR due to emotional trauma, super bowl.
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JP Finlay@JPFinlayNBCSJosh Harris ok’d a James Harden trade last night, what comes today? Talked w a bunch of people across league and Montez Sweat trade seems most likely, especially if new contract on table. Multiple teams interested w NFC South a major player. Also been told Cleveland chasing Show more
Maybe CLE gets Brisket before 4pm, to start the ultimate fan-fiction timeline. Jacoby comes in, fans roar, he goes 3-0 against AZ, BAL, PIT, Watson goes on season-ending IR due to emotional trauma, super bowl.
Maybe CLE gets Brisket before 4pm, to start the ultimate fan-fiction timeline. Jacoby comes in, fans roar, he goes 3-0 against AZ, BAL, PIT, Watson goes on season-ending IR due to emotional trauma, super bowl.
I'll secure the directorial rights now haha.
Normally QB trades like this don't make much logical sense. But in this case, Brissett makes a whole lot of sense unless the team feels 110% confident that Watson will be ready without limitations for Baltimore. Having Jacoby for the Balt- Pit games would make a foundational difference and would be worth it for those games alone.
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