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  • @flugel said:

    There IS that!  And do you REALIZE how easy it is to call plays when you have a QB with PJ's resume in such a traditionally quiet stadium like Seattle has?  

    The one place I think Stefanski can help himself & PJ out better is the choice of formations that don't railroad PJ into the sharp teeth of trouble.  I like a 2nd option for a QB so I would love a dump off option instead of going empty backfield. It just seems like we use that formation at the worst possible time.  Outside of that, they have to execute what they prepared to do all week.  Getting behind early didn't help us in the end - those TDs Seattle scored never got subtracted.

    Last year Stefanski did a nice job when Jacoby Brissett was here. This year, he has a QB that got cut by the Chicago Bears in preseason.  If that's an easy gig for Stefanski - I'm all ears.

    IMO, fans only want to think there's 1 problem.  "Yeah, just fire Stefanski." Okay, who is going to hire the replacement?  The same guy that hired Hue Jackson and Freddie Kitchens?  Be careful what you wish for.  If you noticed, when Kitchens was here - he ALSO had an Offensive Coordinator named Todd Monken that wasn't allowed to call the plays.  That's no different than reducing Alex Van Pelt to a committee member today.  The trend of doing this is about 3 Head Coaches deep now, which makes me think this idea comes from someone in the front office.  I could be wrong - but it's pretty freakin consistent. 

    Any analytics department that puts Our most effective short yardage back on the sideline the whole fourth quarter while being in 3rd and short throughout the quarter is broken.

    Try this for analytics…Ball in the hands of a QB with 51.8 QBR.  What could possibly go wrong?  He doesn’t execute a decent play design? Likely.  He turns the ball over? possibly. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Any analytics department that puts Our most effective short yardage back on the sideline the whole fourth quarter while being in 3rd and short throughout the quarter is broken.

    Try this for analytics…Ball in the hands of a QB with 51.8 QBR.  What could possibly go wrong?  He doesn’t execute a decent play design? Likely.  He turns the ball over? possibly. 

    Spot on SdB!!!!!   Again, the Browns had Josh Dobbs here with far less to learn about this offense.  I think he could have won a game like this.  We have a much better defense than Arizona and I think our running game is also better regardless of what backs we use.  Having said that, someone seems to like empty backfields here which fools nobody but the Cleveland Browns unfortunately.   Well, ok they fool the Hell out of me with that too.

    As much as our Defense has given us a lot to be happy with - Seattle's 1st 2 TD drives and their last one of the game were very disappointing.  The Browns D settled in and played well in the 2nd, 3rd and all but the last 2 minutes.  But those last 2 minutes were a killer considering how close the Browns got to check mate.   When you go on the road to a place like that - it's gonna come down to who makes the plays and who leaves them on the field.  

  • To add to my original thought on being 'OK' with the pass on 3rd and 3, if Stef had already committed in his own head to going for it on 4th, then he 100% made the wrong call and should've ran it to create a 4th and 1 at worst. 

    Personally, I don't have a lot of faith that Kevin actually calls plays 2 or 3 ahead, so in all honesty the thought of a 4th down decision probably never even crossed his mind during the heat of the moment.... another reason why someone needs to be in charge of gameday, game flow, real time decisions that often win and lose games. Someone needs to make a calm decision and Kevin frantically looking at his play sheet isn't the dude. 

    From what I've been able to piece together in terms of momentum, the real time rest the defense had, how they played in the 4th, how PJ had looked throwing in the 4th and how well the Browns had ran the ball, I would've been pissed he threw it as well... especially if I thought for a single second he was going to try to win it on 4th and 1 the very next play.

    Still, Kevin had them in a position to win the game with his 1/4 billion dollar QB standing on the sidelines and watching a practice level dude take the snaps from center.

    Too bad the defense couldn't rise to the occasion and put their stamp on being the NFL's #1 ranked unit - but seems they get a pass on allowing an easy game winning drive....   

    @d-bone said:

    To add to my original thought on being 'OK' with the pass on 3rd and 3, if Stef had already committed in his own head to going for it on 4th, then he 100% made the wrong call and should've ran it to create a 4th and 1  at worst. 

    Personally, I don't have a lot of faith that Kevin actually calls plays 2 or 3 ahead, so in all honesty the thought of a 4th down decision probably never even crossed his mind during the heat of the moment.... another reason why someone needs to be in charge of gameday, game flow, real time decisions that often win and lose games. Someone needs to make a calm decision and Kevin frantically looking at his play sheet isn't the dude. 

    From what I've been able to piece together in terms of momentum, the real time rest the defense had, how they played in the 4th, how PJ had looked throwing in the 4th and how well the Browns had ran the ball, I would've been pissed he threw it as well... especially if I thought for a single second he was going to try to win it on 4th and 1 the very next play.

    Still, Kevin had them in a position to win the game with his 1/4 billion dollar QB standing on the sidelines and watching a practice level dude take the snaps from center.

    Too bad the defense couldn't rise to the occasion and put their stamp on being the NFL's #1 ranked unit - but seems they get a pass on allowing an easy game winning drive....   

    I'll just throw this little nugget out there... Technically... Stef isn't AB's guy.. Kev was hired by depud before Berry got back here... So in reality... AB can say Stef was never his guy... This off season should be a circus to watch unfold...

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    I don't put much weight behind people calling Browns players or staff a pussy. Especially when they spell a 5-letter word with 6, and manage to get 4 of those wrong. An achievement, whichever way you look at it!

    /topic/67692

    I spelled it that way on purpose... Dense much?

    @nickers said:

    I spelled it that way on purpose... Dense much?

    Let's look up your spelling on publicly available sources:

    poosie

    • Poosie(Poo-see) comes from the word pussy, vagina, twat, **MASK**, cooter, ect ect. The differnce is that Poosie is a really nice pussy.
    I roxxed her poosie.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poosie

    So, you didn't misspell anything, you just think Watson is really nice, in a vagina sort of way. I stand corrected!

  • @nickers said:

    I spelled it that way on purpose... Dense much?

    Let's look up your spelling on publicly available sources:

    poosie

    • Poosie(Poo-see) comes from the word pussy, vagina, twat, **MASK**, cooter, ect ect. The differnce is that Poosie is a really nice pussy.
    I roxxed her poosie.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poosie

    So, you didn't misspell anything, you just think Watson is really nice, in a vagina sort of way. I stand corrected!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Let's look up your spelling on publicly available sources:

    poosie

    • Poosie(Poo-see) comes from the word pussy, vagina, twat, **MASK**, cooter, ect ect. The differnce is that Poosie is a really nice pussy.
    I roxxed her poosie.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poosie

    So, you didn't misspell anything, you just think Watson is really nice, in a vagina sort of way. I stand corrected!

    😆 .   That's good, we needed some excitement in a boring  November 1 day.   *Etc, etc*   

  • ~       OK  here's one especially for our   Korsou  Dawg   friend :

    A series of two shots, first whiskey (typically Jamesons) followed by a shot of pickle juice/brine.
    Bartender! Another round of Picklebacks for my friends!  
     
    ~       Generally followed by a typical good drummer rim shot ...  ta dum, dum.   🙂.       From mjp.    [ and the Urban dictionary ]
  • ~          And,  to Korsou Dawg .....  of course the chaser (of sorts) ......

    Whiskey    [  From the Urban Dictionary,  naturally. ]

    1. The oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes;

    2. Christmas cheer;

    3. The stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman’s step on a frosty, crispy morning;

    4. The drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life’s great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows;
     
    I drink whiskey because I am an American.
     
    ~       ..... from mjp.     😁         ?️        ?
  • ~       OK  here's one especially for our   Korsou  Dawg   friend :

    A series of two shots, first whiskey (typically Jamesons) followed by a shot of pickle juice/brine.
    Bartender! Another round of Picklebacks for my friends!  
     
    ~       Generally followed by a typical good drummer rim shot ...  ta dum, dum.   🙂.       From mjp.    [ and the Urban dictionary ]

    @mjp28 said:

    ~       OK  here's one especially for our   Korsou  Dawg   friend :

    A series of two shots, first whiskey (typically Jamesons) followed by a shot of pickle juice/brine.
    Bartender! Another round of Picklebacks for my friends!  
     
    ~       Generally followed by a typical good drummer rim shot ...  ta dum, dum.   🙂.       From mjp.    [ and the Urban dictionary ]

    When I finally manage to make it to Cleveland, first round of these bad boys is on me. Bottoms up!

  • @mjp28 said:

    ~       OK  here's one especially for our   Korsou  Dawg   friend :

    A series of two shots, first whiskey (typically Jamesons) followed by a shot of pickle juice/brine.
    Bartender! Another round of Picklebacks for my friends!  
     
    ~       Generally followed by a typical good drummer rim shot ...  ta dum, dum.   🙂.       From mjp.    [ and the Urban dictionary ]

    When I finally manage to make it to Cleveland, first round of these bad boys is on me. Bottoms up!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    When I finally manage to make it to Cleveland, first round of these bad boys is on me. Bottoms up!

    Sounds great  Mr Korsou Dawg !   I can see that bar growing now in length already.   😁   

    GO BROWNS !

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    When I finally manage to make it to Cleveland, first round of these bad boys is on me. Bottoms up!

    Sounds great  Mr Korsou Dawg !   I can see that bar growing now in length already.   😁   

    GO BROWNS !

    @mjp28 said:

    Sounds great  Mr Korsou Dawg !   I can see that bar growing now in length already.   😁   

    GO BROWNS !

    I would prefer to go to Curacao to get my free drink. No snow or cold.???

  • @mjp28 said:

    ~       OK  here's one especially for our   Korsou  Dawg   friend :

    A series of two shots, first whiskey (typically Jamesons) followed by a shot of pickle juice/brine.
    Bartender! Another round of Picklebacks for my friends!  
     
    ~       Generally followed by a typical good drummer rim shot ...  ta dum, dum.   🙂.       From mjp.    [ and the Urban dictionary ]

    When I finally manage to make it to Cleveland, first round of these bad boys is on me. Bottoms up!

    @korsou-dawg said:

    When I finally manage to make it to Cleveland, first round of these bad boys is on me. Bottoms up!

    Bring a bottle of Curacao with you and you're my guest sitting in Section 111.  ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I would prefer to go to Curacao to get my free drink. No snow or cold.???

    Been there once long ago for the total eclipse. Would love to go back sometime. 

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    When I finally manage to make it to Cleveland, first round of these bad boys is on me. Bottoms up!

    Bring a bottle of Curacao with you and you're my guest sitting in Section 111.  ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I would prefer to go to Curacao to get my free drink. No snow or cold.???

    Been there once long ago for the total eclipse. Would love to go back sometime. 

    @hoorta said:

    Bring a bottle of Curacao with you and you're my guest sitting in Section 111.  ?

    Been there once long ago for the total eclipse. Would love to go back sometime. 

    ~    Well here are the remaining games begining with the   HOME  vs  ARIZONA.  Make your plans and after game bar accomodations.    FIVE  HOME  and  FIVE  on the road again ..... per Willie N.  😁

    WK DATE OPPONENT TIME TV TICKETS
    9 Sun, Nov 5 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $35 
    10 Sun, Nov 12 1:00 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $56 
    11 Sun, Nov 19 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $107 
    12 Sun, Nov 26 4:05 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $41 
    13 Sun, Dec 3 4:25 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $32 
    14 Sun, Dec 10 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $26 
    15 Sun, Dec 17 TBD   Tickets as low as $19 
    16 Sun, Dec 24 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $28 
    17 Thu, Dec 28 8:15 PM
    PRIME VIDEO
    Tickets as low as $33 
    18 Sun, Jan 7 TBD   Tickets as low as $81 
  • wow you can get a ticket for 19.00 for the bears game, damn i could fly round trip to the game and it would still be cheaper than to go to the Oregon State washington game

  • sydS syd

    wow you can get a ticket for 19.00 for the bears game, damn i could fly round trip to the game and it would still be cheaper than to go to the Oregon State washington game

    @syd said:

    wow you can get a ticket for 19.00 for the bears game, damn i could fly round trip to the game and it would still be cheaper than to go to the Oregon State washington game

    YES ....  as a matter of fact between 1 to 5 at $19  a scattered bunch at $20, same at $21 and so on.  BUT the gametime is still listed as TBD,  I imagine when that changes  they will go faster .....  especially if the BROWNS go undefeated until game  15 .             😆

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  • @syd said:

    wow you can get a ticket for 19.00 for the bears game, damn i could fly round trip to the game and it would still be cheaper than to go to the Oregon State washington game

    YES ....  as a matter of fact between 1 to 5 at $19  a scattered bunch at $20, same at $21 and so on.  BUT the gametime is still listed as TBD,  I imagine when that changes  they will go faster .....  especially if the BROWNS go undefeated until game  15 .             😆

    Screenshot_2023-11-04_142133.jpg

    @mjp28 said:

    especially if the BROWNS go undefeated until game  15

    "IF"

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  • @mjp28 said:

    especially if the BROWNS go undefeated until game  15

    "IF"

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    @korsou-dawg said:

    "IF"

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    And how do you spell  "sar-cas-M"  lol.     😐

    What is the meaning of sarcasm?
    Sarcasm refers to the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say, especially in order to insult someone, or to show irritation, or just to be funny. For example, saying "they're really on top of things" to describe a group of people who are very disorganized is using sarcasm. .... yeah that's it.
  • @hoorta said:

    Bring a bottle of Curacao with you and you're my guest sitting in Section 111.  ?

    Been there once long ago for the total eclipse. Would love to go back sometime. 

    ~    Well here are the remaining games begining with the   HOME  vs  ARIZONA.  Make your plans and after game bar accomodations.    FIVE  HOME  and  FIVE  on the road again ..... per Willie N.  😁

    WK DATE OPPONENT TIME TV TICKETS
    9 Sun, Nov 5 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $35 
    10 Sun, Nov 12 1:00 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $56 
    11 Sun, Nov 19 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $107 
    12 Sun, Nov 26 4:05 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $41 
    13 Sun, Dec 3 4:25 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $32 
    14 Sun, Dec 10 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $26 
    15 Sun, Dec 17 TBD   Tickets as low as $19 
    16 Sun, Dec 24 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $28 
    17 Thu, Dec 28 8:15 PM
    PRIME VIDEO
    Tickets as low as $33 
    18 Sun, Jan 7 TBD   Tickets as low as $81 

    @mjp28 said:

    ~    Well here are the remaining games begining with the   HOME  vs  ARIZONA.  Make your plans and after game bar accomodations.    FIVE  HOME  and  FIVE  on the road again ..... per Willie N.  😁

    WK DATE OPPONENT TIME TV TICKETS
    9 Sun, Nov 5 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $35 
    10 Sun, Nov 12 1:00 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $56 
    11 Sun, Nov 19 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $107 
    12 Sun, Nov 26 4:05 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $41 
    13 Sun, Dec 3 4:25 PM
    FOX
    Tickets as low as $32 
    14 Sun, Dec 10 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $26 
    15 Sun, Dec 17 TBD   Tickets as low as $19 
    16 Sun, Dec 24 1:00 PM
    CBS
    Tickets as low as $28 
    17 Thu, Dec 28 8:15 PM
    PRIME VIDEO
    Tickets as low as $33 
    18 Sun, Jan 7 TBD   Tickets as low as $81 

    Some winnable games there mjp. Ravens game is huge, if the Browns want to make the playoffs- they about have to beat the Steelers. And it looks like the Bengals have got their mojo back. I do feel for Joe Burrow, it sure looks like he avulsed a flinger nail. I've done that myself, and from personal experience, it hurts like hell.  

    PS- if the season ended today, all four of the AFC North teams would make the playoffs.  

  • @mjp28 said:

    especially if the BROWNS go undefeated until game  15

    "IF"

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    @korsou-dawg said:

    "IF"

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    A  REAL   Cleveland BROWNS   fan in the making !   Oh yeah  "IF"  only ahhh   .....     😮