People Complaining About The Browns Offense Should Watch the Jets...
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Our passing offense is actually pretty close to the basement side by side with the jets, we just have at least some semblance of a rushing offense and a top defense.
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Our passing offense is actually pretty close to the basement side by side with the jets, we just have at least some semblance of a rushing offense and a top defense.
Our passing offense is actually pretty close to the basement side by side with the jets, we just have at least some semblance of a rushing offense and a top defense.
Jets D actually did pretty well against the Chargers holding Herbert and Ekeler to just over 200 yds total with only 2 1 & 2 yd TDs by Ekeler and none for Herbert.
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...and yet, when they were playing the Chargers a few nights ago we had to root against the Jets because they only had 3 losses....just like us.
True. The main point of the thread per the carefully specified title is there's actually an NFL offense for a team with playoff hopes with way more reasons to complain about their offense - than the bellyaching from our fans about the Browns offense (me included when I see empty backfields). On a good night for the Jets, they handed Philly their only loss. Having said that, on a night they faced what had been a very underachieving defense for the Chargers prior to MNF- they gave up 8 sacks in a game plan that showed their backup QB had 49 pass attempts. When you have a RB like Breece Hall; and your OC is choosing to lean more heavily on a QB that just can't see the field as quickly as the speed of the game requires him to - the fans and media are going to complain about it. That was the reason I brought it up for a comparison sake after listening to all of the negativity here about the offensive coordination when the Browns had a backup QB starting. Just a reminder, it can always be worse elsewhere. For example, the projected starting QB for the Jets is still on IR while Watson has returned to the starting lineup.
The Jets game against the Chargers looked a lot like the Browns with a backup rookie QB against the Ratbirds. The Browns Defense started off pretty good in their first few series that day. However the turnovers and lack of time of possession from their offense took the wind right out their sails/lungs the rest of the game.
In all the excitement and commitment the Jets had for Rodgers and the Browns had for Watson - what fell through the cracks was the "what if he gets injured?" We had Dobbs here last year and in training camp this year. The disappointment I see is he had an understanding of the offense that would have had him so much more mentally prepared for an emergency fill-in situation. And the Jets? They're back to starting the young QB that doesn't have a quick enough processor to give them a reliable passing game consistently enough for a balanced attack. At least the Browns have moved the ball enough to give their defense a rest and the fresh legs it needs to compete all game (except for that 1st Ratbird game).
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Our passing offense is actually pretty close to the basement side by side with the jets, we just have at least some semblance of a rushing offense and a top defense.
Jets D actually did pretty well against the Chargers holding Herbert and Ekeler to just over 200 yds total with only 2 1 & 2 yd TDs by Ekeler and none for Herbert.
Jets D actually did pretty well against the Chargers holding Herbert and Ekeler to just over 200 yds total with only 2 1 & 2 yd TDs by Ekeler and none for Herbert.
Agreed! They also sacked Herbert 5 times while the Jets offense continued to forfeit the game. When the Jets gave up a punt return for a TD - that didn't help either.
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Our passing offense is actually pretty close to the basement side by side with the jets, we just have at least some semblance of a rushing offense and a top defense.
Jets D actually did pretty well against the Chargers holding Herbert and Ekeler to just over 200 yds total with only 2 1 & 2 yd TDs by Ekeler and none for Herbert.
Jets D actually did pretty well against the Chargers holding Herbert and Ekeler to just over 200 yds total with only 2 1 & 2 yd TDs by Ekeler and none for Herbert.
I have stated in the past Robert Saleh puts together some great defenses I think he uses his personnel pretty damn good..... I'm just still not sold on him as the HC of any given team...
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I can't imagine being a Jets fan and being subjected to having to have Zach Wilson be your starting QB, then to get Aaron Rodgers in the offseason to only have him blow his Achilles IMMEDIATELY and having to endure more Zach Wilson starting QB time.
That has to test your faith in a higher power.
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I can't imagine being a Jets fan and being subjected to having to have Zach Wilson be your starting QB, then to get Aaron Rodgers in the offseason to only have him blow his Achilles IMMEDIATELY and having to endure more Zach Wilson starting QB time.
That has to test your faith in a higher power.
I can't imagine being a Jets fan and being subjected to having to have Zach Wilson be your starting QB, then to get Aaron Rodgers in the offseason to only have him blow his Achilles IMMEDIATELY and having to endure more Zach Wilson starting QB time.
That has to test your faith in a higher power.
Yeah, that wouldn't be too fun. Dutch, not that there's anything wrong with this - but am I to blame for the length of your sentences all of a sudden? If my old English teacher ever saw some of my crap in here - she'd be threatening summer school all over again.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I can't imagine being a Jets fan and being subjected to having to have Zach Wilson be your starting QB, then to get Aaron Rodgers in the offseason to only have him blow his Achilles IMMEDIATELY and having to endure more Zach Wilson starting QB time.
That has to test your faith in a higher power.
That has to test your faith in a higher power.
...you ought to be able to imagine that pretty well. We've suffered with that kind of stuff all century.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
I can't imagine being a Jets fan and being subjected to having to have Zach Wilson be your starting QB, then to get Aaron Rodgers in the offseason to only have him blow his Achilles IMMEDIATELY and having to endure more Zach Wilson starting QB time.
That has to test your faith in a higher power.
Yeah, that wouldn't be too fun. Dutch, not that there's anything wrong with this - but am I to blame for the length of your sentences all of a sudden? If my old English teacher ever saw some of my crap in here - she'd be threatening summer school all over again.
Yeah, that wouldn't be too fun. Dutch, not that there's anything wrong with this - but am I to blame for the length of your sentences all of a sudden? If my old English teacher ever saw some of my crap in here - she'd be threatening summer school all over again.
It's like I'm allergic to punctuation lately! How about this, I'll start writing everything like nickers does... How would you... like that.... Flugels... would that....rock your.... proverbial boat?
...you ought to be able to imagine that pretty well. We've suffered with that kind of stuff all century.
I'm literally writing that and thinking "Who am I kidding, I'm a Browns fan. I know EXACTLY how that feels!" ?
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Yeah, that wouldn't be too fun. Dutch, not that there's anything wrong with this - but am I to blame for the length of your sentences all of a sudden? If my old English teacher ever saw some of my crap in here - she'd be threatening summer school all over again.
It's like I'm allergic to punctuation lately! How about this, I'll start writing everything like nickers does... How would you... like that.... Flugels... would that....rock your.... proverbial boat?
...you ought to be able to imagine that pretty well. We've suffered with that kind of stuff all century.
I'm literally writing that and thinking "Who am I kidding, I'm a Browns fan. I know EXACTLY how that feels!" ?
It's like I'm allergic to punctuation lately! How about this, I'll start writing everything like nickers does... How would you... like that.... Flugels... would that....rock your.... proverbial boat?
I'm literally writing that and thinking "Who am I kidding, I'm a Browns fan. I know EXACTLY how that feels!" ?
You might get a charge out this then. In 4th grade we had to write essays/compositions and hand them in on Thursdays. On Fridays our teacher (Mr Ruppersberger) would read his 3 most entertaining essays for the week. One week I wrote about my dream game for the Ohio State Buckeyes against The School Up North. I was certain that wouldn't make his top 3.
Guess what? It made the top 3. So when he started reading it, he accelerated his tempo, lost his breath and finished at warped speed. So then he asked me in front of everyone "Tom why do you think I read through that so quickly?" Like any 10 year old, I replied with what I was thinking in the following question-like tone: "because Cornelius Green and Archie Griffin are really fast?" He laughed and said "No, do you realize your entire composition was just 1 sentence long without 1 period or punctuation mark?"
The sad thing is I haven't improved very much. If I connect 2 sentences with a semi colon get ready for a 3rd sentence with fake punctuation in the form of -. We got it covered Dutch. I just don't want your mom calling me with "my son used to be brilliant before he started interacting with knuckleheads like you Flugel." Then I'll pull out some back pocket charm and remind her how smart she is for liking Taki Taki. I might need you to remind what the best pizza places are in your area again.
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That has to test your faith in a higher power.
...you ought to be able to imagine that pretty well. We've suffered with that kind of stuff all century.
...you ought to be able to imagine that pretty well. We've suffered with that kind of stuff all century.
I know. Our freakin ancestors were spoiled rotten. All we inherited was the rotten. It's even worse for all the teenagers under 33-35 years of age.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I know. Our freakin ancestors were spoiled rotten. All we inherited was the rotten. It's even worse for all the teenagers under 33-35 years of age.
I'm always amazed to talk to younger Browns fans who only know the new version of this team.
They are sadists, of course, but I'm still impressed by them.
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I know. Our freakin ancestors were spoiled rotten. All we inherited was the rotten. It's even worse for all the teenagers under 33-35 years of age.
I'm always amazed to talk to younger Browns fans who only know the new version of this team.
They are sadists, of course, but I'm still impressed by them.
I'm always amazed to talk to younger Browns fans who only know the new version of this team.
They are sadists, of course, but I'm still impressed by them.
I know. Then you have Steeler fans trading in their jackets for Dallas Cowboys, San Francisco 49ers and New England Patriots coats when their team only makes the playoffs. Best fans in the NFL My ass with gas!
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I know. Our freakin ancestors were spoiled rotten. All we inherited was the rotten. It's even worse for all the teenagers under 33-35 years of age.
I'm always amazed to talk to younger Browns fans who only know the new version of this team.
They are sadists, of course, but I'm still impressed by them.
I'm always amazed to talk to younger Browns fans who only know the new version of this team.
They are sadists, of course, but I'm still impressed by them.
When my dad used to tell me about Otto Graham, Marion Motley, Gary Collins and Jim Brown - it took the old "when I was your age" to all new levels. I had no choice in the matter. Even better, I didn't want one. I'm just stuck on pause with it all.
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I'm always amazed to talk to younger Browns fans who only know the new version of this team.
They are sadists, of course, but I'm still impressed by them.
When my dad used to tell me about Otto Graham, Marion Motley, Gary Collins and Jim Brown - it took the old "when I was your age" to all new levels. I had no choice in the matter. Even better, I didn't want one. I'm just stuck on pause with it all.
When my dad used to tell me about Otto Graham, Marion Motley, Gary Collins and Jim Brown - it took the old "when I was your age" to all new levels. I had no choice in the matter. Even better, I didn't want one. I'm just stuck on pause with it all.
I learned the same stories, and I still will go on youtube and look up game videos of the old Browns (dating all the way back to 1946) posted by someone under the name Comrade Dobler. I'm talking COMPLETE games. Every play.
It helped that I also grew up within 45 minutes of Cleveland, though.
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Our freakin ancestors were spoiled rotten.
From the year I was born to the year I graduated high school, the Browns never had a losing season. Always a solid and respected team / organization.
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I know. Our freakin ancestors were spoiled rotten. All we inherited was the rotten. It's even worse for all the teenagers under 33-35 years of age.
I'm always amazed to talk to younger Browns fans who only know the new version of this team.
They are sadists, of course, but I'm still impressed by them.
I'm always amazed to talk to younger Browns fans who only know the new version of this team.
They are sadists, of course, but I'm still impressed by them.
they have one positive going for them…expectations are low.
It would be nice not to have any recollection of what this franchise once accomplished on a consistent basis.
8-9/9-8 would look good to some of these 20/30 somethings
I might have my chest puffed out if i watched the Jim Brown era.
I don’t even go back that far…my first Browns recollection….Browns Jets 1986 playoff game and then a period of 9 years where we had a nice run of playoff football.
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